Is America coming apart?

[frigidweirdo]

Well, maybe they'd just start their own business.

At home or in the bushes while they huddle with the leaves against the freezing cold at night? There are thousands of work-at-home schemes, and they do not require attachments to this world. I tried it myself in the 60's and replied to an ad in the back of a magazine. The idea was to send out as many letters as possible, asking each recipient to send me a dollar in exchange for a little drawing I could make and Xerox off to them. If you sent enough letters out, you might get many bills in return. I gave it thought for days but ultimately decided it was too much work for chump change.

I'm not a business person, but I think a lot of people realize just how hard it is to start a business when from day one you're competing with the big boys with so much money. It's possible, and you can be more flexible than the bigger companies.

The scheme you talk about just isn't for most people, they want to start a proper business they can actually believe in.

I only took General Business I & II in high school, but a two-year-old could come up with better ideas than this.

What ideas? I didn't present any ideas.

Excuse me, I meant notions.

Okay, I see where you're taking this... I'm not really interested. If you want five word replies with nonsense, it's really not my thing.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

At home or in the bushes while they huddle with the leaves against the freezing cold at night? There are thousands of work-at-home schemes, and they do not require attachments to this world. I tried it myself in the 60's and replied to an ad in the back of a magazine. The idea was to send out as many letters as possible, asking each recipient to send me a dollar in exchange for a little drawing I could make and Xerox off to them. If you sent enough letters out, you might get many bills in return. I gave it thought for days but ultimately decided it was too much work for chump change.

I'm not a business person, but I think a lot of people realize just how hard it is to start a business when from day one you're competing with the big boys with so much money. It's possible, and you can be more flexible than the bigger companies.

The scheme you talk about just isn't for most people, they want to start a proper business they can actually believe in.

I only took General Business I & II in high school, but a two-year-old could come up with better ideas than this.

What ideas? I didn't present any ideas.

Excuse me, I meant notions.

Okay, I see where you're taking this... I'm not really interested. If you want five word replies with nonsense, it's really not my thing.

Your well must be empty. Not my fault. Walk up a hill and seek an answer.

 

[Redfish]

Our nation is in peril right now. If HRC wins there will be a serious secession movement starting in Texas and moving east and north rapidly. Real America is fed up with the lies and corruption coming out of DC from both parties. Fed up---------fricken fed up.

Yep- if Clinton wins Texas will threaten to takes its toys and go play by itself.....

It wont be just Texas.

LOL.......it won't be any state.

right, this is a hypothetical discussion because Hillary Clinton will never be president.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Our nation is in peril right now. If HRC wins there will be a serious secession movement starting in Texas and moving east and north rapidly. Real America is fed up with the lies and corruption coming out of DC from both parties. Fed up---------fricken fed up.

Yep- if Clinton wins Texas will threaten to takes its toys and go play by itself.....

It wont be just Texas.

LOL.......it won't be any state.

right, this is a hypothetical discussion because Hillary Clinton will never be president.

She could become one. They wheeled FDR around no matter what.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Who the phukk wants to risk business assets plopped down in the middle of Zulu-Land... good money after bad.

Better than plopping them down in Hula Land, where a volcano can swallow them up.

 

[rhodescholar]

Uh no actually. California is still creating new jobs. KS on the other hand is in a recession and MS remains the poorest state in the country.

California is booming—but budget problems loom (again)

So much for CA's economy, and it did not go unnoticed that you ignored IL.

It is also questionable why you need to look at these locations at the state level and not the municipality, as if that makes any difference.

 

[rhodescholar]

It's the racist white GOP's fault as always.

When you make a childish claim like this no one can take you seriously, and your already low credibility just dropped further.

Those are 3rd world Asians who make incredible sacrifices.

Which means what? That they are willing to work hard and blacks aren't? So it isn't white's racism that is holding blacks down? Grow up and exapnd your narrow thinking beyond the far left crap you've been spewing.

Blacks are Americans who, like the white version, don't do well when discriminated against.

But you just admitted asians are still able to succeed.

NYS is just fine thanks.

No it isn't, it has the second largest number of people LEAVING the state in the entire country, and is also functionally bankrupt.

2015 National Movers Study | United Van Lines’ 39th Annual Movers Study

"The Northeast continues to experience a moving deficit with New Jersey (67 percent outbound) and New York (65 percent) making the list of top outbound states for the fourth consecutive year."

Red states are the shitholes. The whole country's slowly going to hell under Reaganism pander to the rich GOP policies...

Unless you can significantly increase your intelligence and reasoning skills, I am no longer interested in further discussion with you.

 

[rhodescholar]

Yes, Reaganism. When taxes on the richest were cut from 70%, gov't investment in EVERYTHING went to hell, and state and local taxes which hit the nonrich rose. Great job!

You're uneducated, and stupid. When tax rates were 70% almost no one paid that much, and they were marginal rates anyway you jackass; do you know what a marginal rate structure is?

 

[JoeNormal]

Great idea, comparing us to the 3rd world, perfect dupe of the greedy idiot rich GOP.

That's where the poverty is, tard. It's not here in the U.S. or Europe. You're an over privileged fool.

So American poor are spoiled because people in the third world have it worse? Do you have anything bad to say about the rich?

 

[JoeNormal]

America once had a strong middle class, sound institutions, a real sense of community and was a place where ordinary, decent people actually could get ahead, especially with an honest work ethic.

That America seems to have disappeared and in the words of George Packer, today’s middle class seems to have slipped into a state of permanent poverty.


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Is America coming apart?

Once Trump loses we should be better off. If the republicans lose the House and Senate, America will be on a fast track to actually repair itself. I don't have a whole lot of faith in democrats, but with republicans out of the picture America might be fine.

why do you want dictatorial socialism? that's what you will get from HRC. why do you want a government that runs every aspect of your life?

With either Hillary or Trump, what you'll get is complete acquiescence to global corporatism. That's the force that will be running every aspect of your life.

 

[Unkotare]

... A person considered wealthy in Bangladesh would not be wealthy in any way here either. ....

Musa Bin Shamser

 

[HenryBHough]

Historically forms of government last between 200 and 250 years.

Do the fucking math.

 

[Syriusly]

Our nation is in peril right now. If HRC wins there will be a serious secession movement starting in Texas and moving east and north rapidly. Real America is fed up with the lies and corruption coming out of DC from both parties. Fed up---------fricken fed up.

Yep- if Clinton wins Texas will threaten to takes its toys and go play by itself.....

It wont be just Texas.

LOL.......it won't be any state.

right, this is a hypothetical discussion because Hillary Clinton will never be president.

Glad to know even you don't believe any state will be 'seceding' when President Hillary Clinton is inaugerated.

 

[francoHFW]

As long as Reaganism rolls on, yes.

Which Reaganism is that? The one from all the way in the 80's or the one that JoeB131 claims taxes went up like with other Dem regimes?

Yes, Reaganism. When taxes on the richest were cut from 70%, gov't investment in EVERYTHING went to hell, and state and local taxes which hit the nonrich rose. Great job!

The fact that you think taxing people 70 percent is a great idea. That's slavery. Leftists love slavery!

Their income over 10 million for example, not terrible. The only way to control out of hand CEO pay, and give YOU a tax cut, good roads etc, and cheap training fo 3-6 million tech jobs going begging...etc etc. See also giant corps getting a free ride from the bought off GOP, dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

America once had a strong middle class, sound institutions, a real sense of community and was a place where ordinary, decent people actually could get ahead, especially with an honest work ethic.

That America seems to have disappeared and in the words of George Packer, today’s middle class seems to have slipped into a state of permanent poverty.


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Is America coming apart?

Get a grip. It is better in many ways, it is worse in some ways. That's reality. That is how things always are. Nostalgia is not reality.

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." A more apt paradox has never been expressed. Your description of how America was in the past is pure fantasy.

And we've been going slowly to hell under Reaganism. see sig.

 

[francoHFW]

With the exception of the homeless, nobody in the U.S. lives in poverty.

You are out of your mind.

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Try stepping outside of the country one time in your life and realize how grossly uninformed you are

I've been to Europe 24 times and speak French and Spanish fluently. You were in the service and learned nada.

Oh, France and Spain? Well then, you clearly know all about poverty

Go visit South America or Africa or certain parts of Asia sometime and then tell me all about American "poverty."

I've been to 7 countries in southern Africa, two in northern Africa, five in South America, various in Asia, I've seen the slums right next to the presidential palace in Asuncion in Paraguay, I've seen single roomed brick boxes with metal on the roof in many places, and I've been to Washington DC, Chicago, New Orleans etc and I've seen poverty in all of these places. In the US poverty is still poverty, people still fall below a line. In the US you have people with nothing living on the streets maybe more than other places, poverty might be different in a first world country compared to a third world country, but that doesn't mean it's any worse in a third world country.

People who are in poverty in the US see all the riches around them and realize they can't have it, it must be very demoralizing, especially when you see all those you know in it too.

It's a disgrace here in comparison to other countries of our wealth. Thanks GOP...

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

And we've been going slowly to hell under Reaganism. see sig.

too stupid of course since govt is 10 times bigger than it was under Reagan while Reagan supported tiny Jeffersonian govt. Franco did not go to college so he does not know that. Sad.

 

[francoHFW]

It's the racist white GOP's fault as always.

When you make a childish claim like this no one can take you seriously, and your already low credibility just dropped further.

Those are 3rd world Asians who make incredible sacrifices.

Which means what? That they are willing to work hard and blacks aren't? So it isn't white's racism that is holding blacks down? Grow up and exapnd your narrow thinking beyond the far left crap you've been spewing.

Blacks are Americans who, like the white version, don't do well when discriminated against.

But you just admitted asians are still able to succeed.

NYS is just fine thanks.

No it isn't, it has the second largest number of people LEAVING the state in the entire country, and is also functionally bankrupt.

2015 National Movers Study | United Van Lines’ 39th Annual Movers Study

"The Northeast continues to experience a moving deficit with New Jersey (67 percent outbound) and New York (65 percent) making the list of top outbound states for the fourth consecutive year."

Red states are the shitholes. The whole country's slowly going to hell under Reaganism pander to the rich GOP policies...

Unless you can significantly increase your intelligence and reasoning skills, I am no longer interested in further discussion with you.

Asian immigrants make sacrifices that Americans won't. Duh. You probably would say GOPers don't include racists, a joke. Red states are beggars on the whole as far as where Fed dollars go. NJ is overpopulated. NYS is just fine, thanks. Upstate!! The wimps leave lol. Fact.

 

[francoHFW]

And we've been going slowly to hell under Reaganism. see sig.

too stupid of course since govt is 10 times bigger than it was under Reagan while Reagan supported tiny Jeffersonian govt. Franco did not go to college so he does not know that. Sad.

Reagan was FOS and grew the gov't more than anyone except W. Obama deficits grew due solely to bailouts and welfare for victims of W's corrupt world depression. Pub dupes!!! Brainwashed functional morons...

 

[francoHFW]

America once had a strong middle class, sound institutions, a real sense of community and was a place where ordinary, decent people actually could get ahead, especially with an honest work ethic.

That America seems to have disappeared and in the words of George Packer, today’s middle class seems to have slipped into a state of permanent poverty.


AUDIO
Is America coming apart?

Once Trump loses we should be better off. If the republicans lose the House and Senate, America will be on a fast track to actually repair itself. I don't have a whole lot of faith in democrats, but with republicans out of the picture America might be fine.

why do you want dictatorial socialism? that's what you will get from HRC. why do you want a government that runs every aspect of your life?

With either Hillary or Trump, what you'll get is complete acquiescence to global corporatism. That's the force that will be running every aspect of your life.

That's the way it goes in reality- it's not a conspiracy. But the Dems would tax corps and the richest their fair share and invest in training for the 3-6 million tech jobs going begging that we should be getting out of these new markets. For 20 years now, dupe.

Trump- "I know, a tax cut for the rich and giant corps"....how long can you brainwashed functional moron dupes miss the point?