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Is another Civil War brewing?

You can't prove that he was free either. But even if he was free, he wasn't thinking of his brothers and sisters that weren't free, he didn't care about them, much like conservatives today don't care about others, just themselves.
YOU evaded the question LIAR. What POLITICAL PARTY gathered under THAT flag? Republican or Democrat?
PARTY.

I did answer........why don't you answer my question?

If Lincoln was a Republican, and he was trying to free slaves, why are you on the side of the Confederates? Are you claiming they were Democrats? Are you on the side of Democrats? Bwahahaha, you are so screwed up.
I asked WHAT PARTY? Show the fine members of this board you are NOT to stupid to learn and Google it. WHAT PARTY REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT GATHERED UNDER THAT FLAG?

Why don't you tell me idiot.........and why are you on that side? Because the parties switched in the late 50's?

So, was Lincoln Republican? Was he on the Confederate Side? Are you too stupid to figure it out? Why are you on the Confederate side if you think they were Democrats?
Nobody's on the Confederate side, you idiot. Defending first amendment and states rights doesn't make him Johnny Reb, you dumb fuck. Damn, you're stupid!

Tell that to your retarded clone, DarkFury.....who is arguing here that Democrats were the ones gathering under the Confederate flag........and today, it is conservatives that want to proudly fly the flag of the losers, including yourself, loser.
 
YOU evaded the question LIAR. What POLITICAL PARTY gathered under THAT flag? Republican or Democrat?
PARTY.

I did answer........why don't you answer my question?

If Lincoln was a Republican, and he was trying to free slaves, why are you on the side of the Confederates? Are you claiming they were Democrats? Are you on the side of Democrats? Bwahahaha, you are so screwed up.
I asked WHAT PARTY? Show the fine members of this board you are NOT to stupid to learn and Google it. WHAT PARTY REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT GATHERED UNDER THAT FLAG?

Why don't you tell me idiot.........and why are you on that side? Because the parties switched in the late 50's?

So, was Lincoln Republican? Was he on the Confederate Side? Are you too stupid to figure it out? Why are you on the Confederate side if you think they were Democrats?
Nobody's on the Confederate side, you idiot. Defending first amendment and states rights doesn't make him Johnny Reb, you dumb fuck. Damn, you're stupid!
The slavery question did NOT come into play for about two years. The TRUTH is the south had a bumper crop so large the north broke their price agreement with SOUTH CAROLINA. SC the burned cotten on the beach next to the docks. The NORTH then marched down and burned the docks so SC could only ship overland to them.

Try as you may.......Historians have declared that the Civil War's main cause was slavery. And that isn't how you spell cotton, retard.


That flag WAS states RIGHTS and states ability to buy and sell freely. THAT'S the southern heritage that's the southern pride.
Mertex the Moron just refuses to face it.
That flag denotes "slavery" and retard DarkFury refuses to accept it. States rights was just a "key" issue......but the obstinate South didn't want government telling them what to do (they couldn't own slaves.) Much like the conservatives of today.


What led to the outbreak of the bloodiest conflict in the history of North America?
A common explanation is that the Civil War was fought over the moral issue of slavery.
In fact,
it was the economics of slavery and political control of that system that was central to the conflict.

A key issue was states' rights.


The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government so they could abolish federal laws they didn't support, especially laws interfering with the South's right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wished.
Causes Of The Civil War History Detectives PBS
 
When it comes to southern pride and the flag that represents the fighting spirit of the south, the racist few are given credence over the rest. Yes, slavery was a part of southern history, but then racial profiling, unfair and unequal wages for woman, and a host of other injustices still prevalent in America, yet old glory still waves.

You can't deny that the Confederate flag represented those that wanted to secede from the United States and form their own country.....and all because they wanted to be able to keep their slaves.....a shameful thing...so why would anyone want to keep and cherish a reminder of those that fought for a cause that ended up being a lost cause and is looked upon now as repugnant. Yes, owning people is repugnant and the Confederate flag stands for those what wanted to keep owning people.

And sure, we sill have racial profiling, unfair and unequal wages for women and a host of other injustices, but it's still our country, warts and all......and Old Glory represents our country....our ever changing and improving country. It's not a betrayal to our country to fly Old Glory.....it's our flag....the Confederate flag is not our flag, it is the flag of those who wanted to leave this wonderful country because they couldn't own slaves anymore.....so why would anyone want to identify with those losers? If they are our ancestors, we should be ashamed of them....not proud of them. Owning people is not something to be proud of.

I'm a Southerner myself, born and raised in Texas and I have no desire to honor that flag.

Those who fought and died for the south are being shamed, and it seems the hope is permanency. Slavery was certainly part of southern history, but so it was also with the much of the north. A very small percentage of southerners ever owned slaves. We're taking less than 7%, yet a far greater percentage of southerner's took up arms against the Union. They did not fight for slavery. Slavery was only part of the reason behind the civil war. Slavery is long dead and gone. Thank God! We've moved on as a nation, both the north and the south. This racially driven attack on the flag is fueled by hate. Those fighting to preserve their southern roots are driven by pride, heritage, and southern culture NOT racism or hate. That's your modus operandi - not ours.

Listen, people can try to erase our history, they can try to humble southern pride, but in the end this issue has nothing to do with racism for most southerner's, but is rather about having pride in our southern roots, it's about history, culture, and love for the southern way of life. Those against this flag are driven by racism and hate. You're giving up a symbol of southern pride and handing it over to the racists on both sides. Shameful!
 
When it comes to southern pride and the flag that represents the fighting spirit of the south, the racist few are given credence over the rest. Yes, slavery was a part of southern history, but then racial profiling, unfair and unequal wages for woman, and a host of other injustices still prevalent in America, yet old glory still waves.

You can't deny that the Confederate flag represented those that wanted to secede from the United States and form their own country.....and all because they wanted to be able to keep their slaves.....a shameful thing...so why would anyone want to keep and cherish a reminder of those that fought for a cause that ended up being a lost cause and is looked upon now as repugnant. Yes, owning people is repugnant and the Confederate flag stands for those what wanted to keep owning people.

And sure, we sill have racial profiling, unfair and unequal wages for women and a host of other injustices, but it's still our country, warts and all......and Old Glory represents our country....our ever changing and improving country. It's not a betrayal to our country to fly Old Glory.....it's our flag....the Confederate flag is not our flag, it is the flag of those who wanted to leave this wonderful country because they couldn't own slaves anymore.....so why would anyone want to identify with those losers? If they are our ancestors, we should be ashamed of them....not proud of them. Owning people is not something to be proud of.

I'm a Southerner myself, born and raised in Texas and I have no desire to honor that flag.

Those who fought and died for the south are being shamed, and it seems the hope is permanency. Slavery was certainly part of southern history, but so it was also with the much of the north. A very small percentage of southerners ever owned slaves. We're taking less than 7%, yet a far greater percentage of southerner's took up arms against the Union. They did not fight for slavery. Slavery was only part of the reason behind the civil war. Slavery is long dead and gone. Thank God! We've moved on as a nation, both the north and the south. This racially driven attack on the flag is fueled by hate. Those fighting to preserve their southern roots are driven by pride, heritage, and southern culture NOT racism or hate. That's your modus operandi - not ours.

Listen, people can try to erase our history, they can try to humble southern pride, but in the end this issue has nothing to do with racism for most southerner's, but is rather about having pride in our southern roots, it's about history, culture, and love for the southern way of life. Those against this flag are driven by racism and hate. You're giving up a symbol of southern pride and handing it over to the racists on both sides. Shameful!
The War on the Confederate Flag is a diversion from the failure of Obama, and the War on Poverty in general.

Can't have the peeps being angry at themselves for being defrauded.
 
Those fighting to preserve their southern roots are driven by pride, heritage, and southern culture NOT racism or hate. That's your modus operandi - not ours.

You are blind to the truth. The racism continues and the Confederate flag is just another way for southern white trash to try and shove their racist hatred down our throats. It wasn't their "southern roots" they were trying to preserve, it was their "easy way to make money" they were trying to preserve, by having slaves do the dirty work. To this day, those that worship the Confederate flag are most likely black-hating rednecks who hate the government....nothing much has changed....except their political affiliation.
 
I did answer........why don't you answer my question?

If Lincoln was a Republican, and he was trying to free slaves, why are you on the side of the Confederates? Are you claiming they were Democrats? Are you on the side of Democrats? Bwahahaha, you are so screwed up.
I asked WHAT PARTY? Show the fine members of this board you are NOT to stupid to learn and Google it. WHAT PARTY REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT GATHERED UNDER THAT FLAG?

Why don't you tell me idiot.........and why are you on that side? Because the parties switched in the late 50's?

So, was Lincoln Republican? Was he on the Confederate Side? Are you too stupid to figure it out? Why are you on the Confederate side if you think they were Democrats?
Nobody's on the Confederate side, you idiot. Defending first amendment and states rights doesn't make him Johnny Reb, you dumb fuck. Damn, you're stupid!
The slavery question did NOT come into play for about two years. The TRUTH is the south had a bumper crop so large the north broke their price agreement with SOUTH CAROLINA. SC the burned cotten on the beach next to the docks. The NORTH then marched down and burned the docks so SC could only ship overland to them.

Try as you may.......Historians have declared that the Civil War's main cause was slavery. And that isn't how you spell cotton, retard.


That flag WAS states RIGHTS and states ability to buy and sell freely. THAT'S the southern heritage that's the southern pride.
Mertex the Moron just refuses to face it.
That flag denotes "slavery" and retard DarkFury refuses to accept it. States rights was just a "key" issue......but the obstinate South didn't want government telling them what to do (they couldn't own slaves.) Much like the conservatives of today.


What led to the outbreak of the bloodiest conflict in the history of North America?
A common explanation is that the Civil War was fought over the moral issue of slavery.
In fact,
it was the economics of slavery and political control of that system that was central to the conflict.

A key issue was states' rights.


The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government so they could abolish federal laws they didn't support, especially laws interfering with the South's right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wished.
Causes Of The Civil War History Detectives PBS

Dude, the North had slaves as well as the South. The total percentage of white who owned slaves was less than ten percent.

Those two facts alone debunks the notion that the war was mainly due to slavery.
 
The War on the Confederate Flag is a diversion from the failure of Obama, and the War on Poverty in general.

Can't have the peeps being angry at themselves for being defrauded.

You are as delusional as DarkFury........I know it drives you and other conservatives nuts that George W Bush and other Republican Presidents don't fare as well.

Wiki:
In a January 2010 survey by the Siena Research Institute at Siena College in Loudonville, New York—one year into the Obama presidency—238 U.S. history and political science professors ranked Obama 15th of 43 U.S. presidents.[90][91][92]

In a September 2010 survey by the United States Presidency Centre of the Institute for the Study of the Americas at the University of London School of Advanced Study—one year and eight months into the Obama presidency—47 unnamed respondents who were U.K. academic specialists on American history and politics ranked 40 of 42 U.S. presidents from 1789 to 2009, not including Obama; if Obama had been included he would have ranked 8th, behind Harry S. Truman but ahead of Ronald Reagan and all other post-World War II U.S. presidents.[93][94][95][96]

In a June 2012 survey by Newsweek magazine—three years and five months into the Obama presidency—ten selected American historians and biographers ranked Obama 10th of 20 U.S. presidents since 1900, behind gold medalist Franklin D. Roosevelt, silver medalists Theodore Roosevelt, Lyndon B. Johnson, Woodrow Wilson, Harry S. Truman, John F. Kennedy, Dwight D. Eisenhower, and Bill Clinton, and fellow bronze medalist Ronald Reagan.
 
I asked WHAT PARTY? Show the fine members of this board you are NOT to stupid to learn and Google it. WHAT PARTY REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT GATHERED UNDER THAT FLAG?

Why don't you tell me idiot.........and why are you on that side? Because the parties switched in the late 50's?

So, was Lincoln Republican? Was he on the Confederate Side? Are you too stupid to figure it out? Why are you on the Confederate side if you think they were Democrats?
Nobody's on the Confederate side, you idiot. Defending first amendment and states rights doesn't make him Johnny Reb, you dumb fuck. Damn, you're stupid!
The slavery question did NOT come into play for about two years. The TRUTH is the south had a bumper crop so large the north broke their price agreement with SOUTH CAROLINA. SC the burned cotten on the beach next to the docks. The NORTH then marched down and burned the docks so SC could only ship overland to them.

Try as you may.......Historians have declared that the Civil War's main cause was slavery. And that isn't how you spell cotton, retard.


That flag WAS states RIGHTS and states ability to buy and sell freely. THAT'S the southern heritage that's the southern pride.
Mertex the Moron just refuses to face it.
That flag denotes "slavery" and retard DarkFury refuses to accept it. States rights was just a "key" issue......but the obstinate South didn't want government telling them what to do (they couldn't own slaves.) Much like the conservatives of today.


What led to the outbreak of the bloodiest conflict in the history of North America?
A common explanation is that the Civil War was fought over the moral issue of slavery.
In fact,
it was the economics of slavery and political control of that system that was central to the conflict.

A key issue was states' rights.


The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government so they could abolish federal laws they didn't support, especially laws interfering with the South's right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wished.
Causes Of The Civil War History Detectives PBS

Dude, the North had slaves as well as the South. The total percentage of white who owned slaves was less than ten percent.

Those two facts alone debunks the notion that the war was mainly due to slavery.

Of course the North had slaves as well as the South.....where did anyone say anything different? Slavery wasn't the "only" reason for the Civil War.....nobody said that either....but it was the "Main" reason for the war. The South didn't want the Federal government telling them they couldn't own slaves. They wanted states rights so their states could make up their own rules (mainly about owning slaves.}
 
" the North had slaves as well as the South" and did not leave the Union, but the South did because of it. In fact, about one of four Southern families owned slaves, albeit most no more than one to three. Those two facts alone debunk nothing.
 
Those fighting to preserve their southern roots are driven by pride, heritage, and southern culture NOT racism or hate. That's your modus operandi - not ours.

You are blind to the truth. The racism continues and the Confederate flag is just another way for southern white trash to try and shove their racist hatred down our throats. It wasn't their "southern roots" they were trying to preserve, it was their "easy way to make money" they were trying to preserve, by having slaves do the dirty work. To this day, those that worship the Confederate flag are most likely black-hating rednecks who hate the government....nothing much has changed....except their political affiliation.

History is written by the victors - Churchill

The flag never represented hate, racism, or bigotry. That didn't come until much later when a few racists hijacked this symbol representing the fighting spirit if the south. Fact: It was a battle flag, not a hate flag. You people are giving racist theives far more credence than they deserve. You people have jumped on this racially fueled bandwagon and have attacked a battle flag. You're feeding a liberal racist movement. You buckle under racially driven hate against proud southerners who fly tho flag proudly, peacefully, and with honor, and you have the audacity to call us racist rednecks? Who's driven by hateful, bigoted, and racist motivation here? YOU are! Those attacking this flag ARE! Still, you call me blind. It's laughable. Damn sad but laughable just the same.
 
I asked WHAT PARTY? Show the fine members of this board you are NOT to stupid to learn and Google it. WHAT PARTY REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT GATHERED UNDER THAT FLAG?

Why don't you tell me idiot.........and why are you on that side? Because the parties switched in the late 50's?

So, was Lincoln Republican? Was he on the Confederate Side? Are you too stupid to figure it out? Why are you on the Confederate side if you think they were Democrats?
Nobody's on the Confederate side, you idiot. Defending first amendment and states rights doesn't make him Johnny Reb, you dumb fuck. Damn, you're stupid!
The slavery question did NOT come into play for about two years. The TRUTH is the south had a bumper crop so large the north broke their price agreement with SOUTH CAROLINA. SC the burned cotten on the beach next to the docks. The NORTH then marched down and burned the docks so SC could only ship overland to them.

Try as you may.......Historians have declared that the Civil War's main cause was slavery. And that isn't how you spell cotton, retard.


That flag WAS states RIGHTS and states ability to buy and sell freely. THAT'S the southern heritage that's the southern pride.
Mertex the Moron just refuses to face it.
That flag denotes "slavery" and retard DarkFury refuses to accept it. States rights was just a "key" issue......but the obstinate South didn't want government telling them what to do (they couldn't own slaves.) Much like the conservatives of today.


What led to the outbreak of the bloodiest conflict in the history of North America?
A common explanation is that the Civil War was fought over the moral issue of slavery.
In fact,
it was the economics of slavery and political control of that system that was central to the conflict.

A key issue was states' rights.


The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government so they could abolish federal laws they didn't support, especially laws interfering with the South's right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wished.
Causes Of The Civil War History Detectives PBS

Dude, the North had slaves as well as the South. The total percentage of white who owned slaves was less than ten percent.

Those two facts alone debunks the notion that the war was mainly due to slavery.

As soon as the abolitionist Lincoln was elected the south went into rebellion, that and their constitutions and reasons for succession prove beyond doubt the war was to protect the rich democrat aristocrats state right, of owning slaves.
 
The states' right of selling and buying human flesh.

The flag became the symbol of racism, oppression, and hate.
 
Why don't you tell me idiot.........and why are you on that side? Because the parties switched in the late 50's?

So, was Lincoln Republican? Was he on the Confederate Side? Are you too stupid to figure it out? Why are you on the Confederate side if you think they were Democrats?
Nobody's on the Confederate side, you idiot. Defending first amendment and states rights doesn't make him Johnny Reb, you dumb fuck. Damn, you're stupid!
The slavery question did NOT come into play for about two years. The TRUTH is the south had a bumper crop so large the north broke their price agreement with SOUTH CAROLINA. SC the burned cotten on the beach next to the docks. The NORTH then marched down and burned the docks so SC could only ship overland to them.

Try as you may.......Historians have declared that the Civil War's main cause was slavery. And that isn't how you spell cotton, retard.


That flag WAS states RIGHTS and states ability to buy and sell freely. THAT'S the southern heritage that's the southern pride.
Mertex the Moron just refuses to face it.
That flag denotes "slavery" and retard DarkFury refuses to accept it. States rights was just a "key" issue......but the obstinate South didn't want government telling them what to do (they couldn't own slaves.) Much like the conservatives of today.


What led to the outbreak of the bloodiest conflict in the history of North America?
A common explanation is that the Civil War was fought over the moral issue of slavery.
In fact,
it was the economics of slavery and political control of that system that was central to the conflict.

A key issue was states' rights.


The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government so they could abolish federal laws they didn't support, especially laws interfering with the South's right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wished.
Causes Of The Civil War History Detectives PBS

Dude, the North had slaves as well as the South. The total percentage of white who owned slaves was less than ten percent.

Those two facts alone debunks the notion that the war was mainly due to slavery.

Of course the North had slaves as well as the South.....where did anyone say anything different? Slavery wasn't the "only" reason for the Civil War.....nobody said that either....but it was the "Main" reason for the war. The South didn't want the Federal government telling them they couldn't own slaves. They wanted states rights so their states could make up their own rules (mainly about owning slaves.}

You claimed it was the MAIN cause. Which is utter bullshit and anyone that's intellectually honest would tell you that.
 
Why don't you tell me idiot.........and why are you on that side? Because the parties switched in the late 50's?

So, was Lincoln Republican? Was he on the Confederate Side? Are you too stupid to figure it out? Why are you on the Confederate side if you think they were Democrats?
Nobody's on the Confederate side, you idiot. Defending first amendment and states rights doesn't make him Johnny Reb, you dumb fuck. Damn, you're stupid!
The slavery question did NOT come into play for about two years. The TRUTH is the south had a bumper crop so large the north broke their price agreement with SOUTH CAROLINA. SC the burned cotten on the beach next to the docks. The NORTH then marched down and burned the docks so SC could only ship overland to them.

Try as you may.......Historians have declared that the Civil War's main cause was slavery. And that isn't how you spell cotton, retard.


That flag WAS states RIGHTS and states ability to buy and sell freely. THAT'S the southern heritage that's the southern pride.
Mertex the Moron just refuses to face it.
That flag denotes "slavery" and retard DarkFury refuses to accept it. States rights was just a "key" issue......but the obstinate South didn't want government telling them what to do (they couldn't own slaves.) Much like the conservatives of today.


What led to the outbreak of the bloodiest conflict in the history of North America?
A common explanation is that the Civil War was fought over the moral issue of slavery.
In fact,
it was the economics of slavery and political control of that system that was central to the conflict.

A key issue was states' rights.


The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government so they could abolish federal laws they didn't support, especially laws interfering with the South's right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wished.
Causes Of The Civil War History Detectives PBS

Dude, the North had slaves as well as the South. The total percentage of white who owned slaves was less than ten percent.

Those two facts alone debunks the notion that the war was mainly due to slavery.

As soon as the abolitionist Lincoln was elected the south went into rebellion, that and their constitutions and reasons for succession prove beyond doubt the war was to protect the rich democrat aristocrats state right, of owning slaves.
Who even cares?

It is over, fact is, nobody in the 150 years since the 13th has found a profitable use for illiterate unskilled labor.

Time to address the problems of today, rather than dwell on theories of which cause of the Civil War was the most important one.

Of course, the whole flag and slavery discussion is just a deflection from the failure of Obama to do a thing to better the lower and middle classes.
 
Why don't you tell me idiot.........and why are you on that side? Because the parties switched in the late 50's?

So, was Lincoln Republican? Was he on the Confederate Side? Are you too stupid to figure it out? Why are you on the Confederate side if you think they were Democrats?
Nobody's on the Confederate side, you idiot. Defending first amendment and states rights doesn't make him Johnny Reb, you dumb fuck. Damn, you're stupid!
The slavery question did NOT come into play for about two years. The TRUTH is the south had a bumper crop so large the north broke their price agreement with SOUTH CAROLINA. SC the burned cotten on the beach next to the docks. The NORTH then marched down and burned the docks so SC could only ship overland to them.

Try as you may.......Historians have declared that the Civil War's main cause was slavery. And that isn't how you spell cotton, retard.


That flag WAS states RIGHTS and states ability to buy and sell freely. THAT'S the southern heritage that's the southern pride.
Mertex the Moron just refuses to face it.
That flag denotes "slavery" and retard DarkFury refuses to accept it. States rights was just a "key" issue......but the obstinate South didn't want government telling them what to do (they couldn't own slaves.) Much like the conservatives of today.


What led to the outbreak of the bloodiest conflict in the history of North America?
A common explanation is that the Civil War was fought over the moral issue of slavery.
In fact,
it was the economics of slavery and political control of that system that was central to the conflict.

A key issue was states' rights.


The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government so they could abolish federal laws they didn't support, especially laws interfering with the South's right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wished.
Causes Of The Civil War History Detectives PBS

Dude, the North had slaves as well as the South. The total percentage of white who owned slaves was less than ten percent.

Those two facts alone debunks the notion that the war was mainly due to slavery.

Of course the North had slaves as well as the South.....where did anyone say anything different? Slavery wasn't the "only" reason for the Civil War.....nobody said that either....but it was the "Main" reason for the war. The South didn't want the Federal government telling them they couldn't own slaves. They wanted states rights so their states could make up their own rules (mainly about owning slaves.}

You got life all fucked up. Stop reading revisionist history.
 
Those fighting to preserve their southern roots are driven by pride, heritage, and southern culture NOT racism or hate. That's your modus operandi - not ours.

You are blind to the truth. The racism continues and the Confederate flag is just another way for southern white trash to try and shove their racist hatred down our throats. It wasn't their "southern roots" they were trying to preserve, it was their "easy way to make money" they were trying to preserve, by having slaves do the dirty work. To this day, those that worship the Confederate flag are most likely black-hating rednecks who hate the government....nothing much has changed....except their political affiliation.

History is written by the victors - Churchill

The flag never represented hate, racism, or bigotry. That didn't come until much later when a few racists hijacked this symbol representing the fighting spirit if the south. Fact: It was a battle flag, not a hate flag. You people are giving racist theives far more credence than they deserve. You people have jumped on this racially fueled bandwagon and have attacked a battle flag. You're feeding a liberal racist movement. You buckle under racially driven hate against proud southerners who fly tho flag proudly, peacefully, and with honor, and you have the audacity to call us racist rednecks? Who's driven by hateful, bigoted, and racist motivation here? YOU are! Those attacking this flag ARE! Still, you call me blind. It's laughable. Damn sad but laughable just the same.

Wake up!

The flag represented the Confederacy........a bunch of states that decided they didn't want the United States telling them what to do. So, they decided to secede and the United States decided to fight them on it. They (Confederates) lost, and their flag still represents them, losers. Just because those who are still racist want to claim that it doesn't represent hate, racism or bigotry doesn't mean it doesn't. Your words are trying to convey what your actions don't. Quit trying to convince those of us of us that know what it means that it has anything to do with fighting spirit....unless you're willing to admit that it was the fighting spirit for the right to own people.......because you're only fooling yourself.
 

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