Is defining what socialism really is all that tough?

[danielpalos]

national capitalists make money on public policies not lose money; only national socialists, do that.

You mean you promote stealing my money..........there fixed it for you.

So why do so few conservatives in America advocate ending corporate welfare as much as they do ending welfare for people?

LOL

I'd end subsidies across the board...............I'm not in office..........

LOL

They should stand or fall on their own abilities...............tax payers shouldn't have to flip the bill on their winning or losing.

Government solves all problems for the right wing, not Capitalism.

 

[Votto]

“You Conservatives don’t even know what socialism is.”
That seems to be the common thing said among the LefTarded beggars these days....Have they created their own definitions?

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
noun: socialism

1. a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
   synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
   radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;y
   communism, Marxism, labor movement
   "my appreciation for certain aspects of socialism does not mean I'm a socialist"
   • policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
     synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
     radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;
     communism, Marxism, labor movement
     "my appreciation for certain aspects of socialism does not mean I'm a socialist"
   • (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

There are many flavors of ice cream but at the end of the day it's still just ice cream

And so it goes, dictators are collectivists. They are looking to form a large group to destroy another and another and another, until you have as big of a collective as humanly possible.

And that is how they view the world, through mob rule whether it is having the most support through voting or the most soldiers to impose their will or both.

It just so happens that socialism, and it's various brothers and sisters that are like it such as communism and fascism, are the best means to take away economic and personal freedom to help accomplish their goals. At the end of the day, they care nothing about those ideologies other than increasing their power.

 

[danielpalos]

If you can’t define it then you can’t object to it is their thinking.
Liberals believe the purpose of words is to hinder communication.

We know what social-ism must be. Our Founding Fathers already told us.

 

[eagle1462010]

“You Conservatives don’t even know what socialism is.”
That seems to be the common thing said among the LefTarded beggars these days....Have they created their own definitions?

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
noun: socialism

1. a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
   synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
   radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;y
   communism, Marxism, labor movement
   "my appreciation for certain aspects of socialism does not mean I'm a socialist"
   • policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
     synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
     radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;
     communism, Marxism, labor movement
     "my appreciation for certain aspects of socialism does not mean I'm a socialist"
   • (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

There are many flavors of ice cream but at the end of the day it's still just ice cream

And so it goes, dictators are collectivists. They are looking to form a large group to destroy another and another and another, until you have as big of a collective as humanly possible.

And that is how they view the world, through mob rule whether it is having the most support through voting or the most soldiers to impose their will or both.

It just so happens that socialism, and it's various brothers and sisters that are like it such as communism and fascism, are the best means to take away economic and personal freedom to help accomplish their goals. At the end of the day, they care nothing about those ideologies other than increasing their power.

A guy buys a gallon of ice cream.......makes the money.........the socialist takes it all and gives him back what he deserves.............the guy buying the ice cream goes why the hell should I have to buy it for everyone else........that guy is getting it for free.............this sucks.........

So the guy working and buying the ice cream...........says fuck it.......stops working ........and gets in line with the others for the free ice cream........

Then stuck in the line for ice cream..........everyone goes where's the ice cream.........

Somebody says no one is buying Ice Cream anymore............there you go.......Socialism.

 

[danielpalos]

“You Conservatives don’t even know what socialism is.”
That seems to be the common thing said among the LefTarded beggars these days....Have they created their own definitions?

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
noun: socialism

1. a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
   synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
   radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;y
   communism, Marxism, labor movement
   "my appreciation for certain aspects of socialism does not mean I'm a socialist"
   • policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
     synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
     radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;
     communism, Marxism, labor movement
     "my appreciation for certain aspects of socialism does not mean I'm a socialist"
   • (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

There are many flavors of ice cream but at the end of the day it's still just ice cream

And so it goes, dictators are collectivists. They are looking to form a large group to destroy another and another and another, until you have as big of a collective as humanly possible.

And that is how they view the world, through mob rule whether it is having the most support through voting or the most soldiers to impose their will or both.

It just so happens that socialism, and it's various brothers and sisters that are like it such as communism and fascism, are the best means to take away economic and personal freedom to help accomplish their goals. At the end of the day, they care nothing about those ideologies other than increasing their power.

A guy buys a gallon of ice cream.......makes the money.........the socialist takes it all and gives him back what he deserves.............the guy buying the ice cream goes why the hell should I have to buy it for everyone else........that guy is getting it for free.............this sucks.........

So the guy working and buying the ice cream...........says fuck it.......stops working ........and gets in line with the others for the free ice cream........

Then stuck in the line for ice cream..........everyone goes where's the ice cream.........

Somebody says no one is buying Ice Cream anymore............there you go.......Socialism.

socialism sets the guy up with a dairy venture. socializing costs is what socialism is always good for.

 

[eagle1462010]

“You Conservatives don’t even know what socialism is.”
That seems to be the common thing said among the LefTarded beggars these days....Have they created their own definitions?

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
noun: socialism

1. a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
   synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
   radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;y
   communism, Marxism, labor movement
   "my appreciation for certain aspects of socialism does not mean I'm a socialist"
   • policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
     synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
     radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;
     communism, Marxism, labor movement
     "my appreciation for certain aspects of socialism does not mean I'm a socialist"
   • (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

There are many flavors of ice cream but at the end of the day it's still just ice cream

And so it goes, dictators are collectivists. They are looking to form a large group to destroy another and another and another, until you have as big of a collective as humanly possible.

And that is how they view the world, through mob rule whether it is having the most support through voting or the most soldiers to impose their will or both.

It just so happens that socialism, and it's various brothers and sisters that are like it such as communism and fascism, are the best means to take away economic and personal freedom to help accomplish their goals. At the end of the day, they care nothing about those ideologies other than increasing their power.

A guy buys a gallon of ice cream.......makes the money.........the socialist takes it all and gives him back what he deserves.............the guy buying the ice cream goes why the hell should I have to buy it for everyone else........that guy is getting it for free.............this sucks.........

So the guy working and buying the ice cream...........says fuck it.......stops working ........and gets in line with the others for the free ice cream........

Then stuck in the line for ice cream..........everyone goes where's the ice cream.........

Somebody says no one is buying Ice Cream anymore............there you go.......Socialism.

socialism sets the guy up with a dairy venture. socializing costs is what socialism is always good for.

Your still a thief...........and nothing more.

 

[danielpalos]

“You Conservatives don’t even know what socialism is.”
That seems to be the common thing said among the LefTarded beggars these days....Have they created their own definitions?

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
noun: socialism

1. a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
   synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
   radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;y
   communism, Marxism, labor movement
   "my appreciation for certain aspects of socialism does not mean I'm a socialist"
   • policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
     synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
     radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;
     communism, Marxism, labor movement
     "my appreciation for certain aspects of socialism does not mean I'm a socialist"
   • (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

There are many flavors of ice cream but at the end of the day it's still just ice cream

And so it goes, dictators are collectivists. They are looking to form a large group to destroy another and another and another, until you have as big of a collective as humanly possible.

And that is how they view the world, through mob rule whether it is having the most support through voting or the most soldiers to impose their will or both.

It just so happens that socialism, and it's various brothers and sisters that are like it such as communism and fascism, are the best means to take away economic and personal freedom to help accomplish their goals. At the end of the day, they care nothing about those ideologies other than increasing their power.

A guy buys a gallon of ice cream.......makes the money.........the socialist takes it all and gives him back what he deserves.............the guy buying the ice cream goes why the hell should I have to buy it for everyone else........that guy is getting it for free.............this sucks.........

So the guy working and buying the ice cream...........says fuck it.......stops working ........and gets in line with the others for the free ice cream........

Then stuck in the line for ice cream..........everyone goes where's the ice cream.........

Somebody says no one is buying Ice Cream anymore............there you go.......Socialism.

socialism sets the guy up with a dairy venture. socializing costs is what socialism is always good for.

Your still a thief...........and nothing more.

it is called, appropriation for the public Good.

 

[Oddball]

the right wing is too lazy to even argue. Talk, is what they do best.

 

[Oddball]

“You Conservatives don’t even know what socialism is.”
That seems to be the common thing said among the LefTarded beggars these days....Have they created their own definitions?

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
noun: socialism

1. a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
   synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
   radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;y
   communism, Marxism, labor movement
   "my appreciation for certain aspects of socialism does not mean I'm a socialist"
   • policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
     synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
     radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;
     communism, Marxism, labor movement
     "my appreciation for certain aspects of socialism does not mean I'm a socialist"
   • (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

There are many flavors of ice cream but at the end of the day it's still just ice cream

And so it goes, dictators are collectivists. They are looking to form a large group to destroy another and another and another, until you have as big of a collective as humanly possible.

And that is how they view the world, through mob rule whether it is having the most support through voting or the most soldiers to impose their will or both.

It just so happens that socialism, and it's various brothers and sisters that are like it such as communism and fascism, are the best means to take away economic and personal freedom to help accomplish their goals. At the end of the day, they care nothing about those ideologies other than increasing their power.

A guy buys a gallon of ice cream.......makes the money.........the socialist takes it all and gives him back what he deserves.............the guy buying the ice cream goes why the hell should I have to buy it for everyone else........that guy is getting it for free.............this sucks.........

So the guy working and buying the ice cream...........says fuck it.......stops working ........and gets in line with the others for the free ice cream........

Then stuck in the line for ice cream..........everyone goes where's the ice cream.........

Somebody says no one is buying Ice Cream anymore............there you go.......Socialism.

socialism sets the guy up with a dairy venture. socializing costs is what socialism is always good for.

Your still a thief...........and nothing more.

it is called, appropriation for the public Good.

 

[eagle1462010]

There are many flavors of ice cream but at the end of the day it's still just ice cream

And so it goes, dictators are collectivists. They are looking to form a large group to destroy another and another and another, until you have as big of a collective as humanly possible.

And that is how they view the world, through mob rule whether it is having the most support through voting or the most soldiers to impose their will or both.

It just so happens that socialism, and it's various brothers and sisters that are like it such as communism and fascism, are the best means to take away economic and personal freedom to help accomplish their goals. At the end of the day, they care nothing about those ideologies other than increasing their power.

A guy buys a gallon of ice cream.......makes the money.........the socialist takes it all and gives him back what he deserves.............the guy buying the ice cream goes why the hell should I have to buy it for everyone else........that guy is getting it for free.............this sucks.........

So the guy working and buying the ice cream...........says fuck it.......stops working ........and gets in line with the others for the free ice cream........

Then stuck in the line for ice cream..........everyone goes where's the ice cream.........

Somebody says no one is buying Ice Cream anymore............there you go.......Socialism.

socialism sets the guy up with a dairy venture. socializing costs is what socialism is always good for.

Your still a thief...........and nothing more.

it is called, appropriation for the public Good.

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I spit my soda out on that one............LOL

This bot is comical......

 

[danielpalos]

the right wing is too lazy to even argue. Talk, is what they do best.

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nothing but memes instead of valid arguments; how lazy.

 

[danielpalos]

There are many flavors of ice cream but at the end of the day it's still just ice cream

And so it goes, dictators are collectivists. They are looking to form a large group to destroy another and another and another, until you have as big of a collective as humanly possible.

And that is how they view the world, through mob rule whether it is having the most support through voting or the most soldiers to impose their will or both.

It just so happens that socialism, and it's various brothers and sisters that are like it such as communism and fascism, are the best means to take away economic and personal freedom to help accomplish their goals. At the end of the day, they care nothing about those ideologies other than increasing their power.

A guy buys a gallon of ice cream.......makes the money.........the socialist takes it all and gives him back what he deserves.............the guy buying the ice cream goes why the hell should I have to buy it for everyone else........that guy is getting it for free.............this sucks.........

So the guy working and buying the ice cream...........says fuck it.......stops working ........and gets in line with the others for the free ice cream........

Then stuck in the line for ice cream..........everyone goes where's the ice cream.........

Somebody says no one is buying Ice Cream anymore............there you go.......Socialism.

socialism sets the guy up with a dairy venture. socializing costs is what socialism is always good for.

Your still a thief...........and nothing more.

it is called, appropriation for the public Good.

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Government has all solutions is all the right wing knows.

 

[Ame®icano]

I understand all of those and disagree with your assessment that the Nordic model is workable.

Not workable? When you look at the purchase parity average incomes, it is far more workable than what we have. Look at Iceland how well they handled the banking finance crisis or Finland Far better than the more capitalist countries of Europe like Germany or France. Compared to the Mediteranean sphere of the EU, capitalism there has been an unmitigated disaster.

American conservatives like to promote Venezuela as the epitome of socialism, but never bring up Greece or Argentina.

First of all, the most populace of those countries has the population approximately that of Minnesota...The most "successful" -Norway- has the nationalized North Sea oil patch to support its gigantic welfare state.....Sweden has run out of things to tax and its politicians have run out of free shit to bribe the masses with, in order to get elected.

Top 20 nations ranked by Nominal average incomes.

Iceland 61,787 90,662

Switzerland 62,283 88,159

Luxembourg 63,062 71,710

Norway 51,212 65,786

Denmark 51,466 65,674

Australia 49,126 61,620

United States 60,558 60,558

Ireland 47,653 53,112

Netherlands 52,877 52,705

Canada 47,622 50,033

Belgium 49,675 49,419

Austria 50,349 48,306

Sweden 42,393 47,783

New Zealand 40,043 46,917

Finland 42,964 46,772

United Kingdom 43,732 45,280

Germany 47,585 44,466

France 43,755 42,410

Israel 35,067 42,378

Japan 40,863 38,234

So, yeah, Norway has North Sea oil, but little Denmark has no huge natural resources, and yet performs almost as well as Norway does.

All the Nordic model nations are in the top 20 while many capitalist nations did not make the list at all. The worst, Finland, still did better than the UK, Germany orFrance and Japan.

The evidence suggests that Nordic model socialism works much better than capitalism on the average.

Laissez-faire brough Murica from near bankruptcy to its position as the globe's economic superpower in about a century....It's the ONLY way out now.

Lol, no, I disagree. Androids with Strong AI are coming out soon, and costs are estimated at around $2k per android.

As labor markets collapse slowly over the course of ten to twenty years, Nordic Model Socialism will stand out as the most humane and successful economic system by far as it does already.

Nordic model is based on the foundation of free market capitalism with a strong social state.

While businesses are low taxed, personal income are taxed among highest in the world.

On a $55,000 income in Denmark you would pay 60.2% to the state. In Norway, personal income tax border with 55%. Don't forget VAT of 25% in both countries.

You wan't that in US? No thanks... unlike Nordic countries, we have too many leeches and welfare parasites not willing to work or contribute to the economy in any way. They don't have that mentality there, and you start seeing how they cutting the benefits for immigrants they let in when their funds start drying out.

90% of Denmark are of Danish origin, and only 8% of others are already overwhelming the system.
83% of Norway are of Norwegian origin, 8% from other parts of Europe and 8% from elsewhere, and they too having a problem financing the welfare state. That too is changing, they learned the lesson.

 

[danielpalos]

I understand all of those and disagree with your assessment that the Nordic model is workable.

Not workable? When you look at the purchase parity average incomes, it is far more workable than what we have. Look at Iceland how well they handled the banking finance crisis or Finland Far better than the more capitalist countries of Europe like Germany or France. Compared to the Mediteranean sphere of the EU, capitalism there has been an unmitigated disaster.

American conservatives like to promote Venezuela as the epitome of socialism, but never bring up Greece or Argentina.

First of all, the most populace of those countries has the population approximately that of Minnesota...The most "successful" -Norway- has the nationalized North Sea oil patch to support its gigantic welfare state.....Sweden has run out of things to tax and its politicians have run out of free shit to bribe the masses with, in order to get elected.

Top 20 nations ranked by Nominal average incomes.

Iceland 61,787 90,662

Switzerland 62,283 88,159

Luxembourg 63,062 71,710

Norway 51,212 65,786

Denmark 51,466 65,674

Australia 49,126 61,620

United States 60,558 60,558

Ireland 47,653 53,112

Netherlands 52,877 52,705

Canada 47,622 50,033

Belgium 49,675 49,419

Austria 50,349 48,306

Sweden 42,393 47,783

New Zealand 40,043 46,917

Finland 42,964 46,772

United Kingdom 43,732 45,280

Germany 47,585 44,466

France 43,755 42,410

Israel 35,067 42,378

Japan 40,863 38,234

So, yeah, Norway has North Sea oil, but little Denmark has no huge natural resources, and yet performs almost as well as Norway does.

All the Nordic model nations are in the top 20 while many capitalist nations did not make the list at all. The worst, Finland, still did better than the UK, Germany orFrance and Japan.

The evidence suggests that Nordic model socialism works much better than capitalism on the average.

Laissez-faire brough Murica from near bankruptcy to its position as the globe's economic superpower in about a century....It's the ONLY way out now.

Lol, no, I disagree. Androids with Strong AI are coming out soon, and costs are estimated at around $2k per android.

As labor markets collapse slowly over the course of ten to twenty years, Nordic Model Socialism will stand out as the most humane and successful economic system by far as it does already.

Nordic model is based on the foundation of free market capitalism with a strong social state.

While businesses are low taxed, personal income are taxed among highest in the world.

On a $55,000 income in Denmark you would pay 60.2% to the state. In Norway, personal income tax border with 55%. Don't forget VAT of 25% in both countries.

You wan't that in US? No thanks... unlike Nordic countries, we have too many leeches and welfare parasites not willing to work or contribute to the economy in any way. They don't have that mentality there, and you start seeing how they cutting the benefits for immigrants they let in when their funds start drying out.

90% of Denmark are of Danish origin, and only 8% of others are already overwhelming the system.
83% of Norway are of Norwegian origin, 8% from other parts of Europe and 8% from elsewhere, and they too having a problem financing the welfare state. That too is changing, they learned the lesson.

any command economy should be able to command economize its way to prosperity. it is a management problem.

 

[BluesLegend]

Socialism is lazy fat ass moochers who want other people to pay their bills for them.

 

[Jolly Roger]

Actually, socialism is hard to define for at least a few of the extreme right wingers on this board. In another thread a week or so ago, a couple of them told me that the Nazis were socialists. Possibly not everyone understands the concept.

 

[danielpalos]

Socialism is lazy fat ass moochers who want other people to pay their bills for them.

Our Space Race gave us most of the technology we have now.

 

[danielpalos]

Actually, socialism is hard to define for at least a few of the extreme right wingers on this board. In another thread a week or so ago, a couple of them told me that the Nazis were socialists. Possibly not everyone understands the concept.

Government solves all problems for the right wing.

 

[BluesLegend]

Socialism is lazy fat ass moochers who want other people to pay their bills for them.

Our Space Race gave us most of the technology we have now.

What's this "our" crap moocher. Get a job, pay some taxes then you can run your mouth.

 

[danielpalos]

Socialism is lazy fat ass moochers who want other people to pay their bills for them.

Our Space Race gave us most of the technology we have now.

What's this "our" crap moocher. Get a job, pay some taxes then you can run your mouth.

nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, Constitutional or otherwise. who cares about your alleged morals, if we even have the Expense of Government when it really only requires obedience to Ten simple Commandments from a God, for free.