Is It Time To Finally Put Away The Confederate Flag Once and For All?

[MarcATL]

I live in the South you smart guy. I don't need anyone to tell me what that flag means. I know what the history books say, and they say what ever you want them to say. I can find both opinions in history books.

Living here, I have run into racist white people as well as racist black people. I also know whites and blacks who fly the Confederate flag. I don't need someone who thinks they know the South to tell me anything.

I live in the south as well, and you're spewing BS.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Why are some Americans still brandishing that loser traitor flag?

Isn't it time to put away for good now?

It should be seen and flown only in a museum.

What say you?

I would agree but since it triggers you, I suggest the flag stays.

 

[Asclepias]

It isn't a "traitor" flag at all. The Confederates were actually EXONERATED for the crime of treason after the war by President Andrew Johnson.

Its a traitor flag. Johnson was a racist drunk and thats the only reason he exonerated the racist traitors.

 

[DukeU]

Halfway true

The Civil War was never about slavery.

But hey, let's roll with that. It was the democrats who fought for slavery, why is that part always left out? You guys always skip right over that part.

I know, I know, they switched.......... cause history and stuff.

 

[Polishprince]

Its a traitor flag. Johnson was a racist and thats the only reason he exonerated the racist traitors.

It just wasn't Johnson. President Ford exonerated General Lee, President Carter did the same for President Davis.

 

[Asclepias]

The Civil War was never about slavery.

It was to the south. They even said so.

 

[DukeU]

I live in the south as well, and you're spewing BS.

1000 words...................

 

[MisterBeale]

I dont see the right of secession in your post anywhere.

The Principles on which the War was Waged by the North: Thoughts by Lysander Spooner​

The Principles on which the War was Waged by the North: Thoughts by Lysander Spooner

Most Americans see the Civil War as a settled issue: the clash put an end to slavery, saved the Union and ensured that “government of the people, by the people, for the people” did not “perish from the earth” (from the Gettysburg Address). However, some who lived through the conflict

rawhistory.com

".. . The principle, on which the war was waged by the North, was simply this: That men may rightfully be compelled to submit to, and support, a government that they do not want; and that resistance on their part, makes them traitors and criminals.

No principle, that is possible to be named, can be more self-evidently false than this; or more self-evidently fatal to all political freedom. Yet it triumphed in the field, and is now assumed to be established. If it really be established, the number of slaves, instead of having been diminished by the war, has been greatly increased; for a man, thus subjected to a government that he does not want, is a slave. And there is no difference, in principle—but only in degree—between political and chattel slavery. The former, no less than the latter, denies a man’s ownership of himself and the products of his labor; and asserts that other men may own him, and dispose of him and his property, for their uses, and at their pleasure.

Previous to the war, there were some grounds for saying—in theory, at least, if not in practice—our government was a free one; that it rested on consent. But nothing of that kind can be said now, if the principle on which the war was carried on by the North, is irrevocably established.. . . "

 

[DukeU]

It was to the south. They even said so.

It was the democrats North and South who fought to keep slavery.

 

[Asclepias]

It just wasn't Johnson. President Ford exonerated General Lee, President Carter did the same for President Davis.

False. Ford and Carter corrected an oversight of citizenship.

 

[Asclepias]

It was the democrats North and South who fought to keep slavery.

It was the traitor confederates that were primarily southern states.

 

[Asclepias]

The Principles on which the War was Waged by the North: Thoughts by Lysander Spooner​

The Principles on which the War was Waged by the North: Thoughts by Lysander Spooner

Most Americans see the Civil War as a settled issue: the clash put an end to slavery, saved the Union and ensured that “government of the people, by the people, for the people” did not “perish from the earth” (from the Gettysburg Address). However, some who lived through the conflict

rawhistory.com

".. . The principle, on which the war was waged by the North, was simply this: That men may rightfully be compelled to submit to, and support, a government that they do not want; and that resistance on their part, makes them traitors and criminals.

No principle, that is possible to be named, can be more self-evidently false than this; or more self-evidently fatal to all political freedom. Yet it triumphed in the field, and is now assumed to be established. If it really be established, the number of slaves, instead of having been diminished by the war, has been greatly increased; for a man, thus subjected to a government that he does not want, is a slave. And there is no difference, in principle—but only in degree—between political and chattel slavery. The former, no less than the latter, denies a man’s ownership of himself and the products of his labor; and asserts that other men may own him, and dispose of him and his property, for their uses, and at their pleasure.

Previous to the war, there were some grounds for saying—in theory, at least, if not in practice—our government was a free one; that it rested on consent. But nothing of that kind can be said now, if the principle on which the war was carried on by the North, is irrevocably established.. . . "

Thoughts by Lysander Spooner​

Thoughts don't make it so.

 

[Asclepias]

But hey, let's roll with that. It was the democrats who fought for slavery, why is that part always left out? You guys always skip right over that part.

Because it just confuses illiterate people like yourself that think democrats back then are the same as the party today.

 

[bodecea]

Why are some Americans still brandishing that loser traitor flag?

Isn't it time to put away for good now?

It should be seen and flown only in a museum.

What say you?

It's like a white stripe on a skunk.....it's how to recognize the mentally weak.

 

[DukeU]

It was the traitor confederates that were primarily southern states.

Northern and Southern Democrats.

 

[Asclepias]

Northern and Southern Democrats.

All confederates.

 

[DukeU]

Because it just confuses illiterate people like yourself that think democrats back then are the same as the party today.

Democrats are different but Southerners are the same.

 

[DukeU]

All confederates.

Democrats.

 

[Asclepias]

Democrats are different but Southerners are the same.

Not all southerners are the same.

 

[Asclepias]

Democrats.

Who today would be republicans.