Is It Worth A Civil War To You?

[KeiserC]

America is The Bastion of Freedom in the world.

However if you allow unfettered importation of Foreign Ideologies which are in Direct Declared Opposition to the Individual Liberties we believe in, it will no longer be so.

As far as Equality goes there is No Nation on Earth that provides that for a People but the USA.

It is written in Our Constitution, its Amendments, and Our Bill of Rights.

You are guaranteed only equal treatment under the law and equal access to Opportunity. But you are not guaranteed Equal Success.

To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism.

Globalism is an attempt to implement Social Justice on a Global Scale through Mandated redistribution of wealth and can only be accomplished if a Nation's Sovereignty and Individual Liberties are assaulted, fractured and then destroyed.

This is the ultimate goal of The Democrat Party, to Fundamentally Destroy America and Transform it into a Borderless Ward of The Globalist State through the destruction of Individual Liberties and the Imposition of Collectivism.

37% of who?

What polling methods? How many people? Who did the poll?

Who trusts polls in this day and age?

Gosh a'mighty! Must be FAKE NEWS!

There's no truth anymore. The Orange One has decreed it.

The truth is that the MSM has deceived many, perhaps most, into thinking that their values, the values of big government and dependent citizenry is the universally accepted norm... Well as evidenced several mo. ago. NOT YET, we were dangerously close though with the demographics of our nation morphing before our eyes with the barely mitigated, tacitly promulgated illegal crisis foisted upon us.

No... you have never been the majority in this nation, constitutionalist, freedom loving Americans have stop-gaped your insidious advances for over a quarter of a millennia. Unfortunately I don't know that this will continue much longer than Trump is in office...

I don't think my values are the norm. But my values (of equality, humanity, and dignity for all) are the point toward which America is moving. You might not like that. That's not my concern. Be aware, however, that you are negating truth, which is a losing strategy.

I can't take you seriously after you write that "social justice" is the same as Socialism, Communism, or Collectivism.

Like I said, you not sharing my values is not my concern.

I've got to say that you hit the nail on the head here, as did 'Tree' below is a section lifted out of his post...

"To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful." (tree)
"This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism." (tree)


In the context of this quote do you hold fast to your 'selectively lifted' line that SJ can't be tantamount one of isms listed?

Great facet of this post you picked up on!

 

[ricechickie]

"Paradigm of Prevarications."? i'm going to have to look that up, Rice, but i think that he is calling you perverted!

He's calling me a liar. That doesn't bother me, being called a liar by a fool. And him screaming "socialism" doesn't scare me.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

America is The Bastion of Freedom in the world.

However if you allow unfettered importation of Foreign Ideologies which are in Direct Declared Opposition to the Individual Liberties we believe in, it will no longer be so.

As far as Equality goes there is No Nation on Earth that provides that for a People but the USA.

It is written in Our Constitution, its Amendments, and Our Bill of Rights.

You are guaranteed only equal treatment under the law and equal access to Opportunity. But you are not guaranteed Equal Success.

To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism.

Globalism is an attempt to implement Social Justice on a Global Scale through Mandated redistribution of wealth and can only be accomplished if a Nation's Sovereignty and Individual Liberties are assaulted, fractured and then destroyed.

This is the ultimate goal of The Democrat Party, to Fundamentally Destroy America and Transform it into a Borderless Ward of The Globalist State through the destruction of Individual Liberties and the Imposition of Collectivism.

Gosh a'mighty! Must be FAKE NEWS!

There's no truth anymore. The Orange One has decreed it.

The truth is that the MSM has deceived many, perhaps most, into thinking that their values, the values of big government and dependent citizenry is the universally accepted norm... Well as evidenced several mo. ago. NOT YET, we were dangerously close though with the demographics of our nation morphing before our eyes with the barely mitigated, tacitly promulgated illegal crisis foisted upon us.

No... you have never been the majority in this nation, constitutionalist, freedom loving Americans have stop-gaped your insidious advances for over a quarter of a millennia. Unfortunately I don't know that this will continue much longer than Trump is in office...

I don't think my values are the norm. But my values (of equality, humanity, and dignity for all) are the point toward which America is moving. You might not like that. That's not my concern. Be aware, however, that you are negating truth, which is a losing strategy.

I can't take you seriously after you write that "social justice" is the same as Socialism, Communism, or Collectivism.

Like I said, you not sharing my values is not my concern.

I've got to say that you hit the nail on the head here, as did 'Tree' below is a section lifted out of his post...

"To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

"This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism." Tree

In the context of this quote do you hold fast to your 'selectively lifted' line that SJ can't be tantamount one of isms listed?

Great facet of this post you picked up on!

Freedom and equality cannot coexist. It's impossible. It is as you stated.

 

[ricechickie]

America is The Bastion of Freedom in the world.

However if you allow unfettered importation of Foreign Ideologies which are in Direct Declared Opposition to the Individual Liberties we believe in, it will no longer be so.

As far as Equality goes there is No Nation on Earth that provides that for a People but the USA.

It is written in Our Constitution, its Amendments, and Our Bill of Rights.

You are guaranteed only equal treatment under the law and equal access to Opportunity. But you are not guaranteed Equal Success.

To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism.

Globalism is an attempt to implement Social Justice on a Global Scale through Mandated redistribution of wealth and can only be accomplished if a Nation's Sovereignty and Individual Liberties are assaulted, fractured and then destroyed.

This is the ultimate goal of The Democrat Party, to Fundamentally Destroy America and Transform it into a Borderless Ward of The Globalist State through the destruction of Individual Liberties and the Imposition of Collectivism.

Gosh a'mighty! Must be FAKE NEWS!

There's no truth anymore. The Orange One has decreed it.

The truth is that the MSM has deceived many, perhaps most, into thinking that their values, the values of big government and dependent citizenry is the universally accepted norm... Well as evidenced several mo. ago. NOT YET, we were dangerously close though with the demographics of our nation morphing before our eyes with the barely mitigated, tacitly promulgated illegal crisis foisted upon us.

No... you have never been the majority in this nation, constitutionalist, freedom loving Americans have stop-gaped your insidious advances for over a quarter of a millennia. Unfortunately I don't know that this will continue much longer than Trump is in office...

I don't think my values are the norm. But my values (of equality, humanity, and dignity for all) are the point toward which America is moving. You might not like that. That's not my concern. Be aware, however, that you are negating truth, which is a losing strategy.

I can't take you seriously after you write that "social justice" is the same as Socialism, Communism, or Collectivism.

Like I said, you not sharing my values is not my concern.

I've got to say that you hit the nail on the head here, as did 'Tree' below is a section lifted out of his post...

"To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

"This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism." Tree

In the context of this quote do you hold fast to your 'selectively lifted' line that SJ can't be tantamount one of isms listed?

Great facet of this post you picked up on!

I don't want everyone to have equal outcomes, but equal opportunity. We're not quite there, yet.

 

[The Original Tree]

The Zenith of Power and Status for any Nation is to rise to the highest office in the land, and in this Nation, that is to become President of The United States, the most Powerful Nation on The Face of The Earth.

How are we "Not There Yet" if America allowed Barak Obama to rise to such heights in a Nation were his people only make up 13% of The Population?

This Nation has produced the most Minority Billionaires and Millionaires of any country on the Face of The Earth.

There isn't even a close second. So how are we "Not There Yet?"

If you think given that, that "We Aren't There Yet" exactly what do you propose as a Solution to take us beyond a society which accomplished that level of Freedom and Access to Opportunity?

America is The Bastion of Freedom in the world.

However if you allow unfettered importation of Foreign Ideologies which are in Direct Declared Opposition to the Individual Liberties we believe in, it will no longer be so.

As far as Equality goes there is No Nation on Earth that provides that for a People but the USA.

It is written in Our Constitution, its Amendments, and Our Bill of Rights.

You are guaranteed only equal treatment under the law and equal access to Opportunity. But you are not guaranteed Equal Success.

To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism.

Globalism is an attempt to implement Social Justice on a Global Scale through Mandated redistribution of wealth and can only be accomplished if a Nation's Sovereignty and Individual Liberties are assaulted, fractured and then destroyed.

This is the ultimate goal of The Democrat Party, to Fundamentally Destroy America and Transform it into a Borderless Ward of The Globalist State through the destruction of Individual Liberties and the Imposition of Collectivism.

The truth is that the MSM has deceived many, perhaps most, into thinking that their values, the values of big government and dependent citizenry is the universally accepted norm... Well as evidenced several mo. ago. NOT YET, we were dangerously close though with the demographics of our nation morphing before our eyes with the barely mitigated, tacitly promulgated illegal crisis foisted upon us.

No... you have never been the majority in this nation, constitutionalist, freedom loving Americans have stop-gaped your insidious advances for over a quarter of a millennia. Unfortunately I don't know that this will continue much longer than Trump is in office...

I don't think my values are the norm. But my values (of equality, humanity, and dignity for all) are the point toward which America is moving. You might not like that. That's not my concern. Be aware, however, that you are negating truth, which is a losing strategy.

I can't take you seriously after you write that "social justice" is the same as Socialism, Communism, or Collectivism.

Like I said, you not sharing my values is not my concern.

I've got to say that you hit the nail on the head here, as did 'Tree' below is a section lifted out of his post...

"To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

"This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism." Tree

In the context of this quote do you hold fast to your 'selectively lifted' line that SJ can't be tantamount one of isms listed?

Great facet of this post you picked up on!

I don't want everyone to have equal outcomes, but equal opportunity. We're not quite there, yet.

 

[ricechickie]

America is The Bastion of Freedom in the world.

However if you allow unfettered importation of Foreign Ideologies which are in Direct Declared Opposition to the Individual Liberties we believe in, it will no longer be so.

As far as Equality goes there is No Nation on Earth that provides that for a People but the USA.

It is written in Our Constitution, its Amendments, and Our Bill of Rights.

You are guaranteed only equal treatment under the law and equal access to Opportunity. But you are not guaranteed Equal Success.

To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism.

Globalism is an attempt to implement Social Justice on a Global Scale through Mandated redistribution of wealth and can only be accomplished if a Nation's Sovereignty and Individual Liberties are assaulted, fractured and then destroyed.

This is the ultimate goal of The Democrat Party, to Fundamentally Destroy America and Transform it into a Borderless Ward of The Globalist State through the destruction of Individual Liberties and the Imposition of Collectivism.

The truth is that the MSM has deceived many, perhaps most, into thinking that their values, the values of big government and dependent citizenry is the universally accepted norm... Well as evidenced several mo. ago. NOT YET, we were dangerously close though with the demographics of our nation morphing before our eyes with the barely mitigated, tacitly promulgated illegal crisis foisted upon us.

No... you have never been the majority in this nation, constitutionalist, freedom loving Americans have stop-gaped your insidious advances for over a quarter of a millennia. Unfortunately I don't know that this will continue much longer than Trump is in office...

I don't think my values are the norm. But my values (of equality, humanity, and dignity for all) are the point toward which America is moving. You might not like that. That's not my concern. Be aware, however, that you are negating truth, which is a losing strategy.

I can't take you seriously after you write that "social justice" is the same as Socialism, Communism, or Collectivism.

Like I said, you not sharing my values is not my concern.

I've got to say that you hit the nail on the head here, as did 'Tree' below is a section lifted out of his post...

"To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

"This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism." Tree

In the context of this quote do you hold fast to your 'selectively lifted' line that SJ can't be tantamount one of isms listed?

Great facet of this post you picked up on!

Freedom and equality cannot coexist. It's impossible. It is as you stated.

Then we have a conundrum, because how can we have freedom without equality? I am thinking specifically of women's suffrage and rights. How could women be free if they didn't have equal rights, to vote, to express themselves, to own property and earn money?

 

[KissMy]

Time to exterminate all the Putin sympathizers

 

[Vandalshandle]

Paradigm of Prevarications

"Paradigm of Prevarications."? i'm going to have to look that up, Rice, but i think that he is calling you perverted!

He's calling me a liar. That doesn't bother me, being called a liar by a fool. And him screaming "socialism" doesn't scare me.

There is so much deep philosophy to fathom on an anonymous message board thread about the coming civil war. I guess that it is just too deep for me. Well, SOMETHING here is too deep for me, anyway. I think that it is time for me to check in to a thread more in line with today's real issues, so I am off to see if a conclusion has been reached on the thread about whether or not Batman and Iron Man together, can beat up Superman.

 

[ricechickie]

The Zenith of Power and Status for any Nation is to rise to the highest office in the land, and in this Nation, that is to become President of The United States, the most Powerful Nation on The Face of The Earth.

How are we "Not There Yet" if America allowed Barak Obama to rise to such heights in a Nation were his people only make up 13% of The Population?

This Nation has produced the most Minority Billionaires and Millionaires of any country on the Face of The Earth.

There isn't even a close second. So how are we "Not There Yet?"

If you think given that, that "We Aren't There Yet" exactly what do you propose as a Solution to take us beyond a society accomplished that level of Freedom and Access to Opportunity?

America is The Bastion of Freedom in the world.

However if you allow unfettered importation of Foreign Ideologies which are in Direct Declared Opposition to the Individual Liberties we believe in, it will no longer be so.

As far as Equality goes there is No Nation on Earth that provides that for a People but the USA.

It is written in Our Constitution, its Amendments, and Our Bill of Rights.

You are guaranteed only equal treatment under the law and equal access to Opportunity. But you are not guaranteed Equal Success.

To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism.

Globalism is an attempt to implement Social Justice on a Global Scale through Mandated redistribution of wealth and can only be accomplished if a Nation's Sovereignty and Individual Liberties are assaulted, fractured and then destroyed.

This is the ultimate goal of The Democrat Party, to Fundamentally Destroy America and Transform it into a Borderless Ward of The Globalist State through the destruction of Individual Liberties and the Imposition of Collectivism.

I don't think my values are the norm. But my values (of equality, humanity, and dignity for all) are the point toward which America is moving. You might not like that. That's not my concern. Be aware, however, that you are negating truth, which is a losing strategy.

I can't take you seriously after you write that "social justice" is the same as Socialism, Communism, or Collectivism.

Like I said, you not sharing my values is not my concern.

I've got to say that you hit the nail on the head here, as did 'Tree' below is a section lifted out of his post...

"To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

"This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism." Tree

In the context of this quote do you hold fast to your 'selectively lifted' line that SJ can't be tantamount one of isms listed?

Great facet of this post you picked up on!

I don't want everyone to have equal outcomes, but equal opportunity. We're not quite there, yet.

In your haste to defend America against charges of racism toward African-Americans, you neglected to remember that we have not had a woman, a Jew, a Native American, Hispanic, Asian, or Muslim President. Talk to me when we get those Presidents, and when segments of the population don't start foaming to the mouth over those developments.

 

[The Original Tree]

You are daft, because women have all of those rights. Now you have switched to another argument. Round 1 goes to me.

Round 2 you have already conceded because your arguments are steeped in talking points and not Reality.

Which Nation on Earth has the most Female CEOs, Female Billionaires, Millionaires, as well as provides Full Access to the reigns of Power in Government?

Come on, I just lobbed a softball to you. Hit it out of the park for us! Or maybe I should rephrase; Hit It Out Of The Park For Me!

As a secondary argument to show the absurdity of Leftist Dogma & ideology, I pose the following question to you:

"Do you honestly think importing a Rape Culture where women are treated like Cattle, & Property is going to Advance Your Call for Women's Rights?"

America is The Bastion of Freedom in the world.

However if you allow unfettered importation of Foreign Ideologies which are in Direct Declared Opposition to the Individual Liberties we believe in, it will no longer be so.

As far as Equality goes there is No Nation on Earth that provides that for a People but the USA.

It is written in Our Constitution, its Amendments, and Our Bill of Rights.

You are guaranteed only equal treatment under the law and equal access to Opportunity. But you are not guaranteed Equal Success.

To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism.

Globalism is an attempt to implement Social Justice on a Global Scale through Mandated redistribution of wealth and can only be accomplished if a Nation's Sovereignty and Individual Liberties are assaulted, fractured and then destroyed.

This is the ultimate goal of The Democrat Party, to Fundamentally Destroy America and Transform it into a Borderless Ward of The Globalist State through the destruction of Individual Liberties and the Imposition of Collectivism.

I don't think my values are the norm. But my values (of equality, humanity, and dignity for all) are the point toward which America is moving. You might not like that. That's not my concern. Be aware, however, that you are negating truth, which is a losing strategy.

I can't take you seriously after you write that "social justice" is the same as Socialism, Communism, or Collectivism.

Like I said, you not sharing my values is not my concern.

I've got to say that you hit the nail on the head here, as did 'Tree' below is a section lifted out of his post...

"To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

"This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism." Tree

In the context of this quote do you hold fast to your 'selectively lifted' line that SJ can't be tantamount one of isms listed?

Great facet of this post you picked up on!

Freedom and equality cannot coexist. It's impossible. It is as you stated.

Then we have a conundrum, because how can we have freedom without equality? I am thinking specifically of women's suffrage and rights. How could women be free if they didn't have equal rights, to vote, to express themselves, to own property and earn money?

 

[ricechickie]

You are daft, because women have all of those rights. Now you have switched to another argument. Round 1 goes to me.

Round 2 you have already conceded because your arguments are steeped in talking points and not Reality.

Which Nation on Earth has the most Female CEOs, Female Billionaires, Millionaires, as well as provides Full Access to the reigns of Power in Government?

Come on, I just lobbed a softball to you. Hit it out of the park for us! Or maybe I should rephrase; Hit It Out Of The Park For Me!

As a secondary argument to show the absurdity of Leftist Dogma & ideology, I pose the following question to you:

"Do you honestly think importing a Rape Culture where women are treated like Cattle, & Property is going to Advance Your Call for Women's Rights?"

America is The Bastion of Freedom in the world.

However if you allow unfettered importation of Foreign Ideologies which are in Direct Declared Opposition to the Individual Liberties we believe in, it will no longer be so.

As far as Equality goes there is No Nation on Earth that provides that for a People but the USA.

It is written in Our Constitution, its Amendments, and Our Bill of Rights.

You are guaranteed only equal treatment under the law and equal access to Opportunity. But you are not guaranteed Equal Success.

To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism.

Globalism is an attempt to implement Social Justice on a Global Scale through Mandated redistribution of wealth and can only be accomplished if a Nation's Sovereignty and Individual Liberties are assaulted, fractured and then destroyed.

This is the ultimate goal of The Democrat Party, to Fundamentally Destroy America and Transform it into a Borderless Ward of The Globalist State through the destruction of Individual Liberties and the Imposition of Collectivism.

I can't take you seriously after you write that "social justice" is the same as Socialism, Communism, or Collectivism.

Like I said, you not sharing my values is not my concern.

I've got to say that you hit the nail on the head here, as did 'Tree' below is a section lifted out of his post...

"To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

"This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism." Tree

In the context of this quote do you hold fast to your 'selectively lifted' line that SJ can't be tantamount one of isms listed?

Great facet of this post you picked up on!

Freedom and equality cannot coexist. It's impossible. It is as you stated.

Then we have a conundrum, because how can we have freedom without equality? I am thinking specifically of women's suffrage and rights. How could women be free if they didn't have equal rights, to vote, to express themselves, to own property and earn money?

My post wasn't to you, but to Tipsycatlover, who said, as if it's a truism, that freedom can't co-exist with equality. If it's true now, it should have been true back in the early 1900s, and yet women gained equality, and then freedom.

 

[The Original Tree]

It does not matter if you replied to another in your pivot and deflection and attempt to save a losing argument like Hillary pivoted to so called "Russians" to save a Failing Campaign.

The point is valid and completely Inundates your point with a flood of Truth.

Care to offer a third failing argument?

We can always do better, but as far as the system goes it's the most practical and fair system in the world at providing opportunities for everyone.

You are daft, because women have all of those rights. Now you have switched to another argument. Round 1 goes to me.

Round 2 you have already conceded because your arguments are steeped in talking points and not Reality.

Which Nation on Earth has the most Female CEOs, Female Billionaires, Millionaires, as well as provides Full Access to the reigns of Power in Government?

Come on, I just lobbed a softball to you. Hit it out of the park for us! Or maybe I should rephrase; Hit It Out Of The Park For Me!

As a secondary argument to show the absurdity of Leftist Dogma & ideology, I pose the following question to you:

"Do you honestly think importing a Rape Culture where women are treated like Cattle, & Property is going to Advance Your Call for Women's Rights?"

I can't take you seriously after you write that "social justice" is the same as Socialism, Communism, or Collectivism.

Like I said, you not sharing my values is not my concern.

I've got to say that you hit the nail on the head here, as did 'Tree' below is a section lifted out of his post...

"To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

"This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism." Tree

In the context of this quote do you hold fast to your 'selectively lifted' line that SJ can't be tantamount one of isms listed?

Great facet of this post you picked up on!

Freedom and equality cannot coexist. It's impossible. It is as you stated.

Then we have a conundrum, because how can we have freedom without equality? I am thinking specifically of women's suffrage and rights. How could women be free if they didn't have equal rights, to vote, to express themselves, to own property and earn money?

My post wasn't to you, but to Tipsycatlover, who said, as if it's a truism, that freedom can't co-exist with equality. If it's true now, it should have been true back in the early 1900s, and yet women gained equality, and then freedom.

 

[Andylusion]

I saw a couple of those town hall debates. I can't think of a single one, where anyone identified themselves as being part of the tea party.

Are you just making assumptions, and attack the tea party over your assumptions, or do you have some evidence?

Here you go...





How do we know they're the Tea Party?

Because they talk like YOU!

So let's actually look at your claim:
Yes I have seen such a thing. In 2009 when the Tea Party disrupted town hall debates on healthcare.

The first one, didn't disrupt a town meeting. And that didn't show any violence either.

The second one showed people asking questions. So apparently in left-tard world, the mere fact they asked questions, and wanted answers, means they were 'disrupting'?

Just curious... do you know what the entire purpose is of a town hall meeting? The whole point is to have a forum where politicians meet and talk with constitutions about their concerns or policies of interest.

Basically, your complaint here is "Tea Party members are engaging in public forums.... and that's disruptive!".

This is how dumb, and brainless the left is..... by their logic, anyone who disagrees with them, even showing up on the forum, is "disrupting the forum".

And you wonder why every left-wing government in the world ends up engaging in censorship and jailing Opposition? Billo here just spelled it out. Authoritarianism is at the heart of every left-winger in the world.

 

[Andylusion]

I am sure you approved of the violent paid protesters, & the disruption of Free Speech and orchestrated anarchy but have you ever seen such a thing?

Yes I have seen such a thing. In 2009 when the Tea Party disrupted town hall debates on healthcare.

I saw a couple of those town hall debates. I can't think of a single one, where anyone identified themselves as being part of the tea party.

Are you just making assumptions, and attack the tea party over your assumptions, or do you have some evidence?

The Tea Party was originally a grass roots movement, but when it started gaining traction, it was co-opted and funded by the Koch Bros., who continue to use the TP to unseat those not libertarian enough for their tastes.

Good. Works for me. That's what I want. That's why I support the Tea Party.

Effectively you are telling me "They are doing what you want them to do!".

 

[The Original Tree]

In don't agree that The Koch Brothers support Linertarians. You might argue they support Establishment GOP members but we all know that they are all about Big Government as Much as Dems are.

President Trump is a Small Government President, and this is why The Koch Brothers put their support and money behind Clinton this past election.

 

[Dragonlady]

America is The Bastion of Freedom in the world.

However if you allow unfettered importation of Foreign Ideologies which are in Direct Declared Opposition to the Individual Liberties we believe in, it will no longer be so.

As far as Equality goes there is No Nation on Earth that provides that for a People but the USA.

It is written in Our Constitution, its Amendments, and Our Bill of Rights.

You are guaranteed only equal treatment under the law and equal access to Opportunity. But you are not guaranteed Equal Success.

To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism.

Globalism is an attempt to implement Social Justice on a Global Scale through Mandated redistribution of wealth and can only be accomplished if a Nation's Sovereignty and Individual Liberties are assaulted, fractured and then destroyed.

This is the ultimate goal of The Democrat Party, to Fundamentally Destroy America and Transform it into a Borderless Ward of The Globalist State through the destruction of Individual Liberties and the Imposition of Collectivism.

Gosh a'mighty! Must be FAKE NEWS!

There's no truth anymore. The Orange One has decreed it.

The truth is that the MSM has deceived many, perhaps most, into thinking that their values, the values of big government and dependent citizenry is the universally accepted norm... Well as evidenced several mo. ago. NOT YET, we were dangerously close though with the demographics of our nation morphing before our eyes with the barely mitigated, tacitly promulgated illegal crisis foisted upon us.

No... you have never been the majority in this nation, constitutionalist, freedom loving Americans have stop-gaped your insidious advances for over a quarter of a millennia. Unfortunately I don't know that this will continue much longer than Trump is in office...

I don't think my values are the norm. But my values (of equality, humanity, and dignity for all) are the point toward which America is moving. You might not like that. That's not my concern. Be aware, however, that you are negating truth, which is a losing strategy.

I can't take you seriously after you write that "social justice" is the same as Socialism, Communism, or Collectivism.

Like I said, you not sharing my values is not my concern.

I've got to say that you hit the nail on the head here, as did 'Tree' below is a section lifted out of his post...

"To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful." (tree)
"This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism." (tree)


In the context of this quote do you hold fast to your 'selectively lifted' line that SJ can't be tantamount one of isms listed?

Great facet of this post you picked up on!

Liberals don't want equal outcomes. They want equal opportunity.

In don't agree that The Koch Brothers support Linertarians. You might argue they support Establishment GOP members but we all know that they are all about Big Government as Much as Dems are.

President Trump is a Small Government President, and this is why The Koch Brothers put their support and money behind Clinton this past election.

The Koch Brothers did nothing of the kind. They spent their money on down ticket races for the GOP. They refused to support Trump because of his connections to the KKK and the alt-right, and their inability to control him after the election. They CONSIDERED supporting Hillary, but in the final analysis, they decided against it.

 

[gallantwarrior]

The Dystopian Novels where both The Dem and Republican Establishment or the Equivalent of them and The Wealthy Elite conspire to enslave humanity.

I am sure you approved of the violent paid protesters, & the disruption of Free Speech and orchestrated anarchy but have you ever seen such a thing?

Even if it's your side doing it aren't you the least concerned you Goverment is violating your rights and mine every day when it is their duty to protect them?

It's Dangerous and it reminds me of every Dystopian Nightmare Novel I have ever read.

Which dystopian novels were you permitted back home in Mother Russia, Treeovonivich?

Paid protesters and agitators do not make a civil war. It takes widespread violent rebellion to do so. Look to you own Mother Russia at the Bolshevik Revolution and the Spanish Civil War for examples.

The Democrats will protest, stamp their feet and pout a lot, but they won't start a civil war.

If they keep stomping their feet on innocent protesters faces and bodies, translate riot into "protest", and include other violent acts against people and property in their "pouts", you can damned sure count on decent people finally being driven to push back against the democrats lawlessness and violence...count on it.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Paid protesters and agitators do not make a civil war. It takes widespread violent rebellion to do so. Look to you own Mother Russia at the Bolshevik Revolution and the Spanish Civil War for examples.

The Democrats will protest, stamp their feet and pout a lot, but they won't start a civil war.

Remember it's the republicans that claim posession of 300+ million guns. The democrats only have words.

Your words against our guns any day...

 

[KeiserC]

I saw a couple of those town hall debates. I can't think of a single one, where anyone identified themselves as being part of the tea party.

Are you just making assumptions, and attack the tea party over your assumptions, or do you have some evidence?

Here you go...





How do we know they're the Tea Party?

Because they talk like YOU!

So let's actually look at your claim:
Yes I have seen such a thing. In 2009 when the Tea Party disrupted town hall debates on healthcare.

The first one, didn't disrupt a town meeting. And that didn't show any violence either.

The second one showed people asking questions. So apparently in left-tard world, the mere fact they asked questions, and wanted answers, means they were 'disrupting'?

Just curious... do you know what the entire purpose is of a town hall meeting? The whole point is to have a forum where politicians meet and talk with constitutions about their concerns or policies of interest.

Basically, your complaint here is "Tea Party members are engaging in public forums.... and that's disruptive!".

This is how dumb, and brainless the left is..... by their logic, anyone who disagrees with them, even showing up on the forum, is "disrupting the forum".

And you wonder why every left-wing government in the world ends up engaging in censorship and jailing Opposition? Billo here just spelled it out. Authoritarianism is at the heart of every left-winger in the world.

The only reason Dems. numbers are what they are, that they remain a viable party, that they are catered to by democratic politicians and many Repub. politicians..... Is that the party leaders want a massive 'sheeple' voting block to keep voting them into office, securing their power and influence! The media is complicit in this as that is where they gain their power, influence and money.... from a dependent, subservient, uneducated, uninspired, manageable.. 'sheeple' sub-citizenry (think the plebeians in Rome)...

 

[gallantwarrior]

America is The Bastion of Freedom in the world.

However if you allow unfettered importation of Foreign Ideologies which are in Direct Declared Opposition to the Individual Liberties we believe in, it will no longer be so.

As far as Equality goes there is No Nation on Earth that provides that for a People but the USA.

It is written in Our Constitution, its Amendments, and Our Bill of Rights.

You are guaranteed only equal treatment under the law and equal access to Opportunity. But you are not guaranteed Equal Success.

To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful.

This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism.

Globalism is an attempt to implement Social Justice on a Global Scale through Mandated redistribution of wealth and can only be accomplished if a Nation's Sovereignty and Individual Liberties are assaulted, fractured and then destroyed.

This is the ultimate goal of The Democrat Party, to Fundamentally Destroy America and Transform it into a Borderless Ward of The Globalist State through the destruction of Individual Liberties and the Imposition of Collectivism.

The truth is that the MSM has deceived many, perhaps most, into thinking that their values, the values of big government and dependent citizenry is the universally accepted norm... Well as evidenced several mo. ago. NOT YET, we were dangerously close though with the demographics of our nation morphing before our eyes with the barely mitigated, tacitly promulgated illegal crisis foisted upon us.

No... you have never been the majority in this nation, constitutionalist, freedom loving Americans have stop-gaped your insidious advances for over a quarter of a millennia. Unfortunately I don't know that this will continue much longer than Trump is in office...

I don't think my values are the norm. But my values (of equality, humanity, and dignity for all) are the point toward which America is moving. You might not like that. That's not my concern. Be aware, however, that you are negating truth, which is a losing strategy.

I can't take you seriously after you write that "social justice" is the same as Socialism, Communism, or Collectivism.

Like I said, you not sharing my values is not my concern.

I've got to say that you hit the nail on the head here, as did 'Tree' below is a section lifted out of his post...

"To guarantee Equal Success means that you have to create artificial inequalities by taking from those who have succeeded and giving to those who have failed. Thereby you punish the productive and reward the slothful." (tree)
"This is not Equality at all, but is the imposition of Tyranny through the false vehicle of Social Justice. Social Justice is simply another term for Communism, Socialism or Collectivism." (tree)


In the context of this quote do you hold fast to your 'selectively lifted' line that SJ can't be tantamount one of isms listed?

Great facet of this post you picked up on!

Liberals don't want equal outcomes. They want equal opportunity.

In don't agree that The Koch Brothers support Linertarians. You might argue they support Establishment GOP members but we all know that they are all about Big Government as Much as Dems are.

President Trump is a Small Government President, and this is why The Koch Brothers put their support and money behind Clinton this past election.

The Koch Brothers did nothing of the kind. They spent their money on down ticket races for the GOP. They refused to support Trump because of his connections to the KKK and the alt-right, and their inability to control him after the election. They CONSIDERED supporting Hillary, but in the final analysis, they decided against it.

Hahaha! Prove that... (see highlighted above)