Is Linux as good as many people say??

[iamwhatiseem]

You named something and put a - Linux behind that. This indicates that the mentioned devices all run Linux. And 3.1 is not 80`s

This is entertaining...
Here is my direct quote...where in this do you get that I mean ATM's are Linux?


"This site is Linux...as are many, many, many, many websites.
You stream TV or movies? Roku is Linux as are most smart TV's. Android is Linux.
The top 500 super computers in the world? All but a scant few run on Linux. Root web servers that are what the internet IS...are Linux.
Traffic control systems...Linux...Military satellite and recon systems...Linux...even the international space station...Linux.
You like Pixar movies? Linux"

 

[Ringel05]

You named something and put a - Linux behind that. This indicates that the mentioned devices all run Linux. And 3.1 is not 80`s

This is entertaining...
Here is my direct quote...where in this do you get that I mean ATM's are Linux?


"This site is Linux...as are many, many, many, many websites.
You stream TV or movies? Roku is Linux as are most smart TV's. Android is Linux.
The top 500 super computers in the world? All but a scant few run on Linux. Root web servers that are what the internet IS...are Linux.
Traffic control systems...Linux...Military satellite and recon systems...Linux...even the international space station...Linux.
You like Pixar movies? Linux"

His worship of M$ won't let him see anything but what the Imam of M$ tells him to see............

 

[iamwhatiseem]

His worship of M$ won't let him see anything but what the Imam of M$ tells him to see............

Aye...and I could care less to argue these things with him other than this thread was started by someone who genuinely wanted to know about Linux...and in came the M$ minions telling him how hard and painful and terrible it is, which as we know is an absolute lie when using Ubuntu or Mint.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

However, you can do more with Windows. Linux and gaming? No, way. And if you use Firefox on Linux or Windows, I don´t see the difference. Only Linux-Nerds act like that and are rebooting their computers all the time.

I can't let this go.... Jesus Christ Blei...I don't know why you say such outrageous things anymore, you didn't use to. You always preferred Windows and made no bones about it - but in the past month or so you have gotten ridiculous to the point of being a joke.
Reboot a Linux computer?? Hardly ever. The system core is unaffected or even attached in any way to whatever software is on it. The only reason to reboot a Linux machine is when there is a kernal upgrade or security update to a core file...which might be a few times a year.
I reboot...I have no idea...maybe 2-3 times a year. Like I say, I only reboot when there is a kernal/system core update.

C'mon Blei...just stop

 

[Iceweasel]

If a Linux guru read this thread he'd pee laughing. I should log into the Mint forum and give them a head's up.

 

[FA_Q2]

If people had to install an OS - any OS - they would choose Linux because the install takes 1/4th the time.

That sounds nice but is utterly false. When people have to install an OS they chose windows the VAST majority of the time. That is a stone cold fact.

 

[Iceweasel]

If people had to install an OS - any OS - they would choose Linux because the install takes 1/4th the time.

That sounds nice but is utterly false. When people have to install an OS they chose windows the VAST majority of the time. That is a stone cold fact.

Not because of ease or speed, you totally missed the point. My distros have been on 2, 3 and 4 bootable OSes while Windows was always solo.

 

[Ringel05]

If people had to install an OS - any OS - they would choose Linux because the install takes 1/4th the time.

That sounds nice but is utterly false. When people have to install an OS they chose windows the VAST majority of the time. That is a stone cold fact.

You didn't read what he said........ Ya missed the "if"........ Try again.........

 

[Dogtanian]

His worship of M$ won't let him see anything but what the Imam of M$ tells him to see............

Aye...and I could care less to argue these things with him other than this thread was started by someone who genuinely wanted to know about Linux...and in came the M$ minions telling him how hard and painful and terrible it is, which as we know is an absolute lie when using Ubuntu or Mint.

I've tried both Ubuntu and Mint. Ditched both, went back to Windows 7.
I love open source software (except Gimp - that one sucks) I often use Audacity and Paint.net, and VLC is my default media player, but Linux distros are a big pile of WTF. It's always the same, you install it, the desktop looks nice, but 10 minutes later you're searching the internet for a guide on how to install programs or how to get YouTube working or how to install some bit of hardware or a peripheral. It's NOT easy, it's bloody hard. And tedious. And frustrating. The last time I installed Linux Mint I spent a total of about 8 hours trying to learn how to extract a program to the programs folder. I never did figure it out.

8 hours.. I must have been crazy. Windows 7, installing a program is seldom complicated, you double-click on the exe. file and that's about it, job done. I wonder how many millions of people installed Linux imagining that the process was exactly the same in Linux.

 

[Ringel05]

His worship of M$ won't let him see anything but what the Imam of M$ tells him to see............

Aye...and I could care less to argue these things with him other than this thread was started by someone who genuinely wanted to know about Linux...and in came the M$ minions telling him how hard and painful and terrible it is, which as we know is an absolute lie when using Ubuntu or Mint.

I've tried both Ubuntu and Mint. Ditched both, went back to Windows 7.
I love open source software (except Gimp - that one sucks) I often use Audacity and Paint.net, and VLC is my default media player, but Linux distros are a big pile of WTF. It's always the same, you install it, the desktop looks nice, but 10 minutes later you're searching the internet for a guide on how to install programs or how to get YouTube working or how to install some bit of hardware or a peripheral. It's NOT easy, it's bloody hard. And tedious. And frustrating. The last time I installed Linux Mint I spent a total of about 8 hours trying to learn how to extract a program to the programs folder. I never did figure it out.

8 hours.. I must have been crazy. Windows 7, installing a program is seldom complicated, you double-click on the exe. file and that's about it, job done. I wonder how many millions of people installed Linux imagining that the process was exactly the same in Linux.

Honestly, it's because you're clueless, that's why it was so hard for you.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

His worship of M$ won't let him see anything but what the Imam of M$ tells him to see............

Aye...and I could care less to argue these things with him other than this thread was started by someone who genuinely wanted to know about Linux...and in came the M$ minions telling him how hard and painful and terrible it is, which as we know is an absolute lie when using Ubuntu or Mint.

I've tried both Ubuntu and Mint. Ditched both, went back to Windows 7.
I love open source software (except Gimp - that one sucks) I often use Audacity and Paint.net, and VLC is my default media player, but Linux distros are a big pile of WTF. It's always the same, you install it, the desktop looks nice, but 10 minutes later you're searching the internet for a guide on how to install programs or how to get YouTube working or how to install some bit of hardware or a peripheral. It's NOT easy, it's bloody hard. And tedious. And frustrating. The last time I installed Linux Mint I spent a total of about 8 hours trying to learn how to extract a program to the programs folder. I never did figure it out.

8 hours.. I must have been crazy. Windows 7, installing a program is seldom complicated, you double-click on the exe. file and that's about it, job done. I wonder how many millions of people installed Linux imagining that the process was exactly the same in Linux.

I call bullshit again.
You are either making this up...or you are just too dumb to do the simplest task...or this was years ago.
Mint has for quite awhile came with codecs installed so youtube works out of the gate.
And before that - you say you couldn't find out how to fix that by Googling it? Complete garbage. Installing the restricted codecs is as simple as clicking software manager -> and choose to install "ubuntu restricted extras"...done. WOW - OH MY GOD THAT WAS SO HARD!!!!!!!!!!!
How to install programs is soooooooo much easier than Windows.
Again - click software manager and looky there...1,000's of programs sorted nicely by catagory and all you do is choose it - and click install. WOW - OH MY GOD THAT WAS SO HARD!!!!!!!!!!!
You spent 8 hours trying to get a program into the "programs" folder??...well that is really interesting...there is no programs folder in Linux like Windows.
Guess you are lucky you didn't spend 80 hours finding a folder that doesn't exist.
If you mean you installed a program and can't find it?
Yeah that can be sooo bad...you click Menu and type the name of the program in the search bar...WOW - OH MY GOD THAT WAS SO HARD!!!!!!!!!!!

You people are entertaining I will say that

 

[FA_Q2]

If people had to install an OS - any OS - they would choose Linux because the install takes 1/4th the time.

That sounds nice but is utterly false. When people have to install an OS they chose windows the VAST majority of the time. That is a stone cold fact.

You didn't read what he said........ Ya missed the "if"........ Try again.........

No, I didn't miss anything at all.

IF someone must install an OS, they chose windows almost every time. That is a FACT. Period.

 

[FA_Q2]

His worship of M$ won't let him see anything but what the Imam of M$ tells him to see............

Aye...and I could care less to argue these things with him other than this thread was started by someone who genuinely wanted to know about Linux...and in came the M$ minions telling him how hard and painful and terrible it is, which as we know is an absolute lie when using Ubuntu or Mint.

I've tried both Ubuntu and Mint. Ditched both, went back to Windows 7.
I love open source software (except Gimp - that one sucks) I often use Audacity and Paint.net, and VLC is my default media player, but Linux distros are a big pile of WTF. It's always the same, you install it, the desktop looks nice, but 10 minutes later you're searching the internet for a guide on how to install programs or how to get YouTube working or how to install some bit of hardware or a peripheral. It's NOT easy, it's bloody hard. And tedious. And frustrating. The last time I installed Linux Mint I spent a total of about 8 hours trying to learn how to extract a program to the programs folder. I never did figure it out.

8 hours.. I must have been crazy. Windows 7, installing a program is seldom complicated, you double-click on the exe. file and that's about it, job done. I wonder how many millions of people installed Linux imagining that the process was exactly the same in Linux.

Honestly, it's because you're clueless, that's why it was so hard for you.

Honestly, the vast majority of users are also clueless. Mostly because they don't need to know anything - these days it all simply works. Why spend any time learning how to use something or how to set up a particular OS build when you can shove a disk in and be done with it.

 

[Dogtanian]

I call bullshit again.
You are either making this up...or you are just too dumb to do the simplest task...or this was years ago.
Mint has for quite awhile came with codecs installed so youtube works out of the gate.
And before that - you say you couldn't find out how to fix that by Googling it? Complete garbage. Installing the restricted codecs is as simple as clicking software manager -> and choose to install "ubuntu restricted extras"...done. WOW - OH MY GOD THAT WAS SO HARD!!!!!!!!!!!
How to install programs is soooooooo much easier than Windows.
Again - click software manager and looky there...1,000's of programs sorted nicely by catagory and all you do is choose it - and click install. WOW - OH MY GOD THAT WAS SO HARD!!!!!!!!!!!
You spent 8 hours trying to get a program into the "programs" folder??...well that is really interesting...there is no programs folder in Linux like Windows.
Guess you are lucky you didn't spend 80 hours finding a folder that doesn't exist.
If you mean you installed a program and can't find it?
Yeah that can be sooo bad...you click Menu and type the name of the program in the search bar...WOW - OH MY GOD THAT WAS SO HARD!!!!!!!!!!!

You people are entertaining I will say that

You think I didn't try using the Software Manager? The library of compatible programs is not as big as you seem to think, the first problem I encounter with the Software Manager was that a popular application I wanted to install - and it was the very FIRST application I wanted to install (I forget what it was, it might have been Audacity, I'm not sure) could not be loaded from Software Manager, I searched the internet and discovered that this was a common problem and that it had to be installed using the "sudo" whatchamacallit and Terminal. Which then led into another problem that the solution for installing the program in Linux Mint was different than the solution for installing it in Linux Ubuntu, so then I had to find the Mint solution, which I tried many, many, many times over with no success and then I spent more time trying to figure out what I might be doing wrong and looking for solutions to the problem with the original solution. Obviously I was doing it wrong, but if this were Windows it would be infinitely easier, and that's why I say Linux sucks. I followed the instructions STEP... BY... STEP. I am quite good at following instruction guides, and I heeded every single word. It didn't work.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I call bullshit again.
You are either making this up...or you are just too dumb to do the simplest task...or this was years ago.
Mint has for quite awhile came with codecs installed so youtube works out of the gate.
And before that - you say you couldn't find out how to fix that by Googling it? Complete garbage. Installing the restricted codecs is as simple as clicking software manager -> and choose to install "ubuntu restricted extras"...done. WOW - OH MY GOD THAT WAS SO HARD!!!!!!!!!!!
How to install programs is soooooooo much easier than Windows.
Again - click software manager and looky there...1,000's of programs sorted nicely by catagory and all you do is choose it - and click install. WOW - OH MY GOD THAT WAS SO HARD!!!!!!!!!!!
You spent 8 hours trying to get a program into the "programs" folder??...well that is really interesting...there is no programs folder in Linux like Windows.
Guess you are lucky you didn't spend 80 hours finding a folder that doesn't exist.
If you mean you installed a program and can't find it?
Yeah that can be sooo bad...you click Menu and type the name of the program in the search bar...WOW - OH MY GOD THAT WAS SO HARD!!!!!!!!!!!

You people are entertaining I will say that

You think I didn't try using the Software Manager? The library of compatible programs is not as big as you seem to think, the first problem I encounter with the Software Manager was that a popular application I wanted to install - and it was the very FIRST application I wanted to install (I forget what it was, it might have been Audacity, I'm not sure) could not be loaded from Software Manager, I searched the internet and discovered that this was a common problem and that it had to be installed using the "sudo" whatchamacallit and Terminal. Which then led into another problem that the solution for installing the program in Linux Mint was different than the solution for installing it in Linux Ubuntu, so then I had to find the Mint solution, which I tried many, many, many times over with no success and then I spent more time trying to figure out what I might be doing wrong and looking for solutions to the problem with the original solution. Obviously I was doing it wrong, but if this were Windows it would be infinitely easier, and that's why I say Linux sucks. I followed the instructions STEP... BY... STEP. I am quite good at following instruction guides, and I heeded every single word. It didn't work.

Here's your first problem...Mint IS Ubuntu. You know that right? They are also both Debian based.
LinuxMint is for the most part Ubuntu with a simpler GUI and it comes pre-installed with codecs
So your not making sense.
Secondly, Audacity is a Linux program and can be installed via the terminal by copy and pasting this:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntuhandbook1/audacity
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install audacity
.WOW - OH MY GOD THAT WAS SO HARD!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[iamwhatiseem]

If people had to install an OS - any OS - they would choose Linux because the install takes 1/4th the time.

That sounds nice but is utterly false. When people have to install an OS they chose windows the VAST majority of the time. That is a stone cold fact.

You didn't read what he said........ Ya missed the "if"........ Try again.........

No, I didn't miss anything at all.

IF someone must install an OS, they chose windows almost every time. That is a FACT. Period.

What are you talking about?
Average users never install an OS...ever. They don't even know what an OS is.
I understand you are playing with words...you don't understand that we recognize that immediately.

Installing Windows takes flipping forever, last count I believe I did was 3 reboots and after ALL of the updates it was well over an hour. Of course, like many complain about, the first attempt failed because I was stuck in the infamous "update failed" loop...which I had to Google around and figure out how to get past that....gee...what would the average user do then???...yep...take it to Geek squad and pay them $75 so they can type in a 5 second command to fix it.
So by the time I figured it out to get past the failed update...was a good 3 hours.
Installing Linux takes about 15 minutes initially, and then the updates will take about another 15-20 minutes. reboot once.

 

[Iceweasel]

His worship of M$ won't let him see anything but what the Imam of M$ tells him to see............

Aye...and I could care less to argue these things with him other than this thread was started by someone who genuinely wanted to know about Linux...and in came the M$ minions telling him how hard and painful and terrible it is, which as we know is an absolute lie when using Ubuntu or Mint.

I've tried both Ubuntu and Mint. Ditched both, went back to Windows 7.
I love open source software (except Gimp - that one sucks) I often use Audacity and Paint.net, and VLC is my default media player, but Linux distros are a big pile of WTF. It's always the same, you install it, the desktop looks nice, but 10 minutes later you're searching the internet for a guide on how to install programs or how to get YouTube working or how to install some bit of hardware or a peripheral. It's NOT easy, it's bloody hard. And tedious. And frustrating. The last time I installed Linux Mint I spent a total of about 8 hours trying to learn how to extract a program to the programs folder. I never did figure it out.

8 hours.. I must have been crazy. Windows 7, installing a program is seldom complicated, you double-click on the exe. file and that's about it, job done. I wonder how many millions of people installed Linux imagining that the process was exactly the same in Linux.

Gimp is great! There's little it can't do compared to Photoshop. You do not know what you are talking about and consistently blame the product. If you prefer something else, fine, but to say a program or OS sucks because you can't operate it is shear stupidity.

Also, I'm on a new distro as of last afternoon. I downloaded Kubuntu in the morning while I was chatting with you fucksticks, ran the install manually since I have Mint 17.3 and a separate partition for storage. If a newby just wanted one OS all they would have to do is click OK. I didn't have to set anything up apart from clicking on the nVidia icon thingy. Do you know how to click on things, because I'm beginning to wonder if you'd need help with that.

So I installed Kubuntu because I use a lot of KDE and it has great tablet support for my Wacoms, I don't use a mouse. And I heard a lot of good things about Plasma5 the desktop. It's fantastic! It installed then I updated everything with a couple of button presses, maybe two hours later I was good to go.

Stick to flipping burgers for Microsoft, your opinion is worthless among people who know what's going on.

 

[Iceweasel]

You spent 8 hours trying to get a program into the "programs" folder??...well that is really interesting...there is no programs folder in Linux like Windows.
Guess you are lucky you didn't spend 80 hours finding a folder that doesn't exist. t

That proof he's a liar. Next he'll be telling us how overly complicated the Linux registry is.

 

[Iceweasel]

You think I didn't try using the Software Manager? The library of compatible programs is not as big as you seem to think, the first problem I encounter with the Software Manager was that a popular application I wanted to install - and it was the very FIRST application I wanted to install (I forget what it was, it might have been Audacity, I'm not sure) could not be loaded from Software Manager, I searched the internet and discovered that this was a common problem and that it had to be installed using the "sudo" whatchamacallit and Terminal. Which then led into another problem that the solution for installing the program in Linux Mint was different than the solution for installing it in Linux Ubuntu, so then I had to find the Mint solution, which I tried many, many, many times over with no success and then I spent more time trying to figure out what I might be doing wrong and looking for solutions to the problem with the original solution. Obviously I was doing it wrong, but if this were Windows it would be infinitely easier, and that's why I say Linux sucks. I followed the instructions STEP... BY... STEP. I am quite good at following instruction guides, and I heeded every single word. It didn't work.

Hey genius. The software manager doesn't load programs. It just downloads whatever you select into a folder and creates a link for it. The fact that you had to use the terminal with root privileges means that what you selected was not in the repository for the distro you were running.

It is doable, I've done it in the past but it's been a year or two since I was using Debian Wheezy and it's very conservative (stable) and doesn't include programs until they are run through the mill. It's why I went back to Mint. However, all I ever did was cut and paste the commands some geek provided on a forum.

I used to do it often since I tried many distros and experimented often and it always worked, you missed something. None of it is really necessary though since any big distro has all the bells and whistles and a wide range of compatibility.

I installed a number of KDE programs in Mint w/ Cinnamon, which is based based on Gnome, no problems, just a click or two and boom, it was right there ready to use. No setup routine, no registry to modify, no reboot, etc. Watch a Youtube video or something instead of passing along bad/false information for people looking for honest answers.

 

[FA_Q2]

If people had to install an OS - any OS - they would choose Linux because the install takes 1/4th the time.

That sounds nice but is utterly false. When people have to install an OS they chose windows the VAST majority of the time. That is a stone cold fact.

You didn't read what he said........ Ya missed the "if"........ Try again.........

No, I didn't miss anything at all.

IF someone must install an OS, they chose windows almost every time. That is a FACT. Period.

What are you talking about?
Average users never install an OS...ever. They don't even know what an OS is.
I understand you are playing with words...you don't understand that we recognize that immediately.

Installing Windows takes flipping forever, last count I believe I did was 3 reboots and after ALL of the updates it was well over an hour. Of course, like many complain about, the first attempt failed because I was stuck in the infamous "update failed" loop...which I had to Google around and figure out how to get past that....gee...what would the average user do then???...yep...take it to Geek squad and pay them $75 so they can type in a 5 second command to fix it.
So by the time I figured it out to get past the failed update...was a good 3 hours.
Installing Linux takes about 15 minutes initially, and then the updates will take about another 15-20 minutes. reboot once.

Again, irrelevant. YOU had a rough time, most people do not. Further, most people will install an OS at one time or another. I have installed windows many times on some pretty shit internet connections for the updates - never has taken me over 30 minuets. I have no idea why you think that I am playing with words. Everything that I have stated is pretty direct and simple.


You sound EXACTLY like those trashing Linux complaining about how it didn't work or was garbage. You are saying the same shit just against windows and yet calling them fanboys. Your posts bleed fanboy - just for Linux. I have no idea why it seems so hard to understand that one OS works better for some users and another works better for other users.