Is PC responsible for Trump?

[Mac1958]

Seriously mac, you didn't listen during the run up to the election and I don't think you will listen now.

Most of us that voted for Trump did so in spite of his language. We cringed when he said some of the things he said.

Hillary was and always will be the clear and present danger. She was and is a war hawk unlike Trump will ever be. She is more of the same from Obama. She represents the past not the future. Anyone would have beaten Hillary, anyone, it is just a matter of what degree.

The Republic was saved on November 8th. The SCOTUS nominations were just too big to give to someone as clueless as the democrats and especially Hillary. The shape of America was changed on November 8th, for the good.

Sorry you keep trying to blame her losing on something other than her being her and the reputation of the Obama administration. Now maybe if she would have been black the democrats could have picked up the votes she needed just by white guilt. But the majority of Americans outside CA elected the polar opposite, for good reasons.

I'm not saying that it was the only reason he won. And I said about a zillion times during the campaign that she was a lousy candidate.

So all the times I saw Trump's supporters celebrating the fact that he's not PC was a lie? That had nothing to do with it?
.

Why don't you just cut to the chase and say what you really mean? You want to but because of PC won't say that Trump won because America has become Islamphobic, homophobic, _____phobic and just down right hateful. You have to blame the election of Trump on PC because to blame it on its true reason means you were dead wrong and that is just not allowed. You supported a loser, get over it, she lost, her message isn't what America wanted or needed.

Yikes.

This sure has been an interesting thread so far!
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[Iceweasel]

Trump won because he opposes (allegedly) the trade deals, and that position won him a few thousand swing votes in the Rust Belt which won him the few dozen electoral votes he needed.

enough with the PC nonsense.

That's one thing he ran on, gave hour long speeches each time and that's all you heard? LOL

No. I analyzed the results of the election based on the exit polls.

Sure Scooter, go with that.

 

[owebo]

Seriously mac, you didn't listen during the run up to the election and I don't think you will listen now.

Most of us that voted for Trump did so in spite of his language. We cringed when he said some of the things he said.

Hillary was and always will be the clear and present danger. She was and is a war hawk unlike Trump will ever be. She is more of the same from Obama. She represents the past not the future. Anyone would have beaten Hillary, anyone, it is just a matter of what degree.

The Republic was saved on November 8th. The SCOTUS nominations were just too big to give to someone as clueless as the democrats and especially Hillary. The shape of America was changed on November 8th, for the good.

Sorry you keep trying to blame her losing on something other than her being her and the reputation of the Obama administration. Now maybe if she would have been black the democrats could have picked up the votes she needed just by white guilt. But the majority of Americans outside CA elected the polar opposite, for good reasons.

I'm not saying that it was the only reason he won. And I said about a zillion times during the campaign that she was a lousy candidate.

So all the times I saw Trump's supporters celebrating the fact that he's not PC was a lie? That had nothing to do with it?
.

Why don't you just cut to the chase and say what you really mean? You want to but because of PC won't say that Trump won because America has become Islamphobic, homophobic, _____phobic and just down right hateful. You have to blame the election of Trump on PC because to blame it on its true reason means you were dead wrong and that is just not allowed. You supported a loser, get over it, she lost, her message isn't what America wanted or needed.

Yikes.

This sure has been an interesting thread so far!
.

Not really...

 

[Mac1958]

The OP is the most anti-PC fanatic on the planet, claims Hillary lost because of PC,

and yet HE voted for Hillary.

Does anyone else see how that in and of itself demolishes his argument.?

I realize how shallow and binary the thought processes of hardcore partisan ideologues are, but I'll try anyway.

There are many issues. And we prioritize issues. PC is not my top issue. There are many issues.

There. I made that as simple as I could.

How did I do?
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[Ray From Cleveland]

I just made a delightfully brilliant point in another thread, SO delightfully brilliant that it certainly deserves its own thread.



As someone who (a) did not support Trump, but (b) is still virulently anti-PC, it seems pretty clear to me that the one overriding feature of Trump's candidacy that endeared him to his voters was that he is so non-PC.

People had enough of decades of the intellectual dishonesty, cowardice and counter-productive nature of PC, it had built up to a fever pitch, and bing, just the right guy came along at just the right time.

Rather than cower when the PC zealots did their predictable screaming, his voters embraced it, ran with it, and shoved it right back in the PC zealots' face. And now, it will be President Trump.

The PC zealots are largely responsible for this guy.

Thoughts?
.

Sorry to disappoint, but your idea has been brought up several times on USMB and one even started a thread just for that. But I'll comment the same way.

I agree and disagree. I disagree because I don't think that anybody would vote for a President simply because of the way he talks. I agree because I think his anti-PC related to people who otherwise are confused when it comes to politics. He put politics into simple language anybody can understand.

Trump talks about politics the way we do at the bar, at work, at family doings. I think people who normally don't get involved in politics bonded with his messages. And let's face it, we all know a lot of people like that. Those people get confused (and bored) when politicians dance around what they would really like to say with great concern about offending anybody.

We are political junkies here. We spend much of our lives with politics; I know I do. But we falsely assume that most people are like us when it's just the opposite. We are a very small minority in this country. So Trump found a way to get through to those people (anti-PC) and probably helped him win the presidency.

Thanks, much appreciated.

I think the role that it played was that it intensified opinions. And, theoretically, increased turnout.

No way to know. But I'm VERY pissed that I wasn't FIRST with this!


.

I suspect that what took place is a lot of people that do follow politics didn't come out to vote for either candidate. People were pissed that Trump won, and on the Hillary side, people were pissed that the Socialist didn't win.

But with his anti-PC talk, he was able to bring in people that didn't normally vote. It was apparent at his rallies with packed arenas and standing room only.

Trumps most attractive message was the illegal problem in this country. Sure, Republicans ran on that in the past, and when they finally got into office, they said "We are going to work on immigration reform!" Hey idiot! did you hear us screaming anything about immigration reform? No. We were screaming about all these people coming into this country and for somebody to do something to remove the illegals that are here!

 

[Mac1958]

I just made a delightfully brilliant point in another thread, SO delightfully brilliant that it certainly deserves its own thread.



As someone who (a) did not support Trump, but (b) is still virulently anti-PC, it seems pretty clear to me that the one overriding feature of Trump's candidacy that endeared him to his voters was that he is so non-PC.

People had enough of decades of the intellectual dishonesty, cowardice and counter-productive nature of PC, it had built up to a fever pitch, and bing, just the right guy came along at just the right time.

Rather than cower when the PC zealots did their predictable screaming, his voters embraced it, ran with it, and shoved it right back in the PC zealots' face. And now, it will be President Trump.

The PC zealots are largely responsible for this guy.

Thoughts?
.

Sorry to disappoint, but your idea has been brought up several times on USMB and one even started a thread just for that. But I'll comment the same way.

I agree and disagree. I disagree because I don't think that anybody would vote for a President simply because of the way he talks. I agree because I think his anti-PC related to people who otherwise are confused when it comes to politics. He put politics into simple language anybody can understand.

Trump talks about politics the way we do at the bar, at work, at family doings. I think people who normally don't get involved in politics bonded with his messages. And let's face it, we all know a lot of people like that. Those people get confused (and bored) when politicians dance around what they would really like to say with great concern about offending anybody.

We are political junkies here. We spend much of our lives with politics; I know I do. But we falsely assume that most people are like us when it's just the opposite. We are a very small minority in this country. So Trump found a way to get through to those people (anti-PC) and probably helped him win the presidency.

Thanks, much appreciated.

I think the role that it played was that it intensified opinions. And, theoretically, increased turnout.

No way to know. But I'm VERY pissed that I wasn't FIRST with this!


.

I suspect that what took place is a lot of people that do follow politics didn't come out to vote for either candidate. People were pissed that Trump won, and on the Hillary side, people were pissed that the Socialist didn't win.

But with his anti-PC talk, he was able to bring in people that didn't normally vote. It was apparent at his rallies with packed arenas and standing room only.

Trumps most attractive message was the illegal problem in this country. Sure, Republicans ran on that in the past, and when they finally got into office, they said "We are going to work on immigration reform!" Hey idiot! did you hear us screaming anything about immigration reform? No. We were screaming about all these people coming into this country and for somebody to do something to remove the illegals that are here!

Yes, agreed.

And really, that top issue is what sent the PC zealots into the stratosphere, which emboldened Trump's supporters even more.

Thanks for the civil, adult responses. Nice to know such a thing can still happen here!
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[dannyboys]

Seriously mac, you didn't listen during the run up to the election and I don't think you will listen now.

Most of us that voted for Trump did so in spite of his language. We cringed when he said some of the things he said.

Hillary was and always will be the clear and present danger. She was and is a war hawk unlike Trump will ever be. She is more of the same from Obama. She represents the past not the future. Anyone would have beaten Hillary, anyone, it is just a matter of what degree.

The Republic was saved on November 8th. The SCOTUS nominations were just too big to give to someone as clueless as the democrats and especially Hillary. The shape of America was changed on November 8th, for the good.

Sorry you keep trying to blame her losing on something other than her being her and the reputation of the Obama administration. Now maybe if she would have been black the democrats could have picked up the votes she needed just by white guilt. But the majority of Americans outside CA elected the polar opposite, for good reasons.

I repeatedly sent Robby Mook emails pleading with him to have Hillary rub her face and hands with black shoe polish, and get 'Dallas Tent And Awning' to make her some dresses with matching hat and gloves with HUGE flower prints on them and get her ass to those S. Baptist churches where she could hone her 'ebonics'.
She would have had enough negroe 'OJ jurors' turn out to win her the election.
But no. Robby wouldn't take my advice.
Hillary's 'negro firewall' sat in the fucking shade on election day.
Obama told his negro government dependants he would take it as a personal insult if they didn't turn out and vote for what would have been Obama's third term.
The negroes essentially told him to got lost. They had received all the 'free shit' they could get from Obama in eight years so he was no longer useful to them.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I just made a delightfully brilliant point in another thread, SO delightfully brilliant that it certainly deserves its own thread.



As someone who (a) did not support Trump, but (b) is still virulently anti-PC, it seems pretty clear to me that the one overriding feature of Trump's candidacy that endeared him to his voters was that he is so non-PC.

People had enough of decades of the intellectual dishonesty, cowardice and counter-productive nature of PC, it had built up to a fever pitch, and bing, just the right guy came along at just the right time.

Rather than cower when the PC zealots did their predictable screaming, his voters embraced it, ran with it, and shoved it right back in the PC zealots' face. And now, it will be President Trump.

The PC zealots are largely responsible for this guy.

Thoughts?
.

Sorry to disappoint, but your idea has been brought up several times on USMB and one even started a thread just for that. But I'll comment the same way.

I agree and disagree. I disagree because I don't think that anybody would vote for a President simply because of the way he talks. I agree because I think his anti-PC related to people who otherwise are confused when it comes to politics. He put politics into simple language anybody can understand.

Trump talks about politics the way we do at the bar, at work, at family doings. I think people who normally don't get involved in politics bonded with his messages. And let's face it, we all know a lot of people like that. Those people get confused (and bored) when politicians dance around what they would really like to say with great concern about offending anybody.

We are political junkies here. We spend much of our lives with politics; I know I do. But we falsely assume that most people are like us when it's just the opposite. We are a very small minority in this country. So Trump found a way to get through to those people (anti-PC) and probably helped him win the presidency.

Thanks, much appreciated.

I think the role that it played was that it intensified opinions. And, theoretically, increased turnout.

No way to know. But I'm VERY pissed that I wasn't FIRST with this!


.

I suspect that what took place is a lot of people that do follow politics didn't come out to vote for either candidate. People were pissed that Trump won, and on the Hillary side, people were pissed that the Socialist didn't win.

But with his anti-PC talk, he was able to bring in people that didn't normally vote. It was apparent at his rallies with packed arenas and standing room only.

Trumps most attractive message was the illegal problem in this country. Sure, Republicans ran on that in the past, and when they finally got into office, they said "We are going to work on immigration reform!" Hey idiot! did you hear us screaming anything about immigration reform? No. We were screaming about all these people coming into this country and for somebody to do something to remove the illegals that are here!

What are you going to demand that Trump do re: the "illegal problem"?

And...people came out in good numbers ( for this nation) for both candidates.

 

[Freewill]

Seriously mac, you didn't listen during the run up to the election and I don't think you will listen now.

Most of us that voted for Trump did so in spite of his language. We cringed when he said some of the things he said.

Hillary was and always will be the clear and present danger. She was and is a war hawk unlike Trump will ever be. She is more of the same from Obama. She represents the past not the future. Anyone would have beaten Hillary, anyone, it is just a matter of what degree.

The Republic was saved on November 8th. The SCOTUS nominations were just too big to give to someone as clueless as the democrats and especially Hillary. The shape of America was changed on November 8th, for the good.

Sorry you keep trying to blame her losing on something other than her being her and the reputation of the Obama administration. Now maybe if she would have been black the democrats could have picked up the votes she needed just by white guilt. But the majority of Americans outside CA elected the polar opposite, for good reasons.

I repeatedly sent Robby Mook emails pleading with him to have Hillary rub her face and hands with black shoe polish, and get 'Dallas Tent And Awning' to make her some dresses with matching hat and gloves with HUGE flower prints on them and get her ass to those S. Baptist churches where she could hone her 'ebonics'.
She would have had enough negroe 'OJ jurors' turn out to win her the election.
But no. Robby wouldn't take my advice.
Hillary's 'negro firewall' sat in the fucking shade on election day.
Obama told his negro government dependants he would take it as a personal insult if they didn't turn out and vote for what would have been Obama's third term.
The negroes essentially told him to got lost. They had received all the 'free shit' they could get from Obama in eight years so he was no longer useful to them.

For some reason the Democrat party has taken blacks for granted and they considering winning the black vote all they need to do. Hillary both ignored the majority of voters and insulted the majority of voters.

Blacks still only make up 13 percent of the population. But to listen to the PC crowd one would think it was 95 percent.

 

[owebo]

I just made a delightfully brilliant point in another thread, SO delightfully brilliant that it certainly deserves its own thread.



As someone who (a) did not support Trump, but (b) is still virulently anti-PC, it seems pretty clear to me that the one overriding feature of Trump's candidacy that endeared him to his voters was that he is so non-PC.

People had enough of decades of the intellectual dishonesty, cowardice and counter-productive nature of PC, it had built up to a fever pitch, and bing, just the right guy came along at just the right time.

Rather than cower when the PC zealots did their predictable screaming, his voters embraced it, ran with it, and shoved it right back in the PC zealots' face. And now, it will be President Trump.

The PC zealots are largely responsible for this guy.

Thoughts?
.

Sorry to disappoint, but your idea has been brought up several times on USMB and one even started a thread just for that. But I'll comment the same way.

I agree and disagree. I disagree because I don't think that anybody would vote for a President simply because of the way he talks. I agree because I think his anti-PC related to people who otherwise are confused when it comes to politics. He put politics into simple language anybody can understand.

Trump talks about politics the way we do at the bar, at work, at family doings. I think people who normally don't get involved in politics bonded with his messages. And let's face it, we all know a lot of people like that. Those people get confused (and bored) when politicians dance around what they would really like to say with great concern about offending anybody.

We are political junkies here. We spend much of our lives with politics; I know I do. But we falsely assume that most people are like us when it's just the opposite. We are a very small minority in this country. So Trump found a way to get through to those people (anti-PC) and probably helped him win the presidency.

Thanks, much appreciated.

I think the role that it played was that it intensified opinions. And, theoretically, increased turnout.

No way to know. But I'm VERY pissed that I wasn't FIRST with this!


.

I suspect that what took place is a lot of people that do follow politics didn't come out to vote for either candidate. People were pissed that Trump won, and on the Hillary side, people were pissed that the Socialist didn't win.

But with his anti-PC talk, he was able to bring in people that didn't normally vote. It was apparent at his rallies with packed arenas and standing room only.

Trumps most attractive message was the illegal problem in this country. Sure, Republicans ran on that in the past, and when they finally got into office, they said "We are going to work on immigration reform!" Hey idiot! did you hear us screaming anything about immigration reform? No. We were screaming about all these people coming into this country and for somebody to do something to remove the illegals that are here!

What are you going to demand that Trump do re: the "illegal problem"?

And...people came out in good numbers ( for this nation) for both candidates.

Except Detroit....

 

[dannyboys]

Seriously mac, you didn't listen during the run up to the election and I don't think you will listen now.

Most of us that voted for Trump did so in spite of his language. We cringed when he said some of the things he said.

Hillary was and always will be the clear and present danger. She was and is a war hawk unlike Trump will ever be. She is more of the same from Obama. She represents the past not the future. Anyone would have beaten Hillary, anyone, it is just a matter of what degree.

The Republic was saved on November 8th. The SCOTUS nominations were just too big to give to someone as clueless as the democrats and especially Hillary. The shape of America was changed on November 8th, for the good.

Sorry you keep trying to blame her losing on something other than her being her and the reputation of the Obama administration. Now maybe if she would have been black the democrats could have picked up the votes she needed just by white guilt. But the majority of Americans outside CA elected the polar opposite, for good reasons.

I'm not saying that it was the only reason he won. And I said about a zillion times during the campaign that she was a lousy candidate.

So all the times I saw Trump's supporters celebrating the fact that he's not PC was a lie? That had nothing to do with it?
.

Why don't you just cut to the chase and say what you really mean? You want to but because of PC won't say that Trump won because America has become Islamphobic, homophobic, _____phobic and just down right hateful. You have to blame the election of Trump on PC because to blame it on its true reason means you were dead wrong and that is just not allowed. You supported a loser, get over it, she lost, her message isn't what America wanted or needed.

Yikes.

This sure has been an interesting thread so far!
.

Obviously PC had a part in Trump's victory. But only a part.
Just before the election we had the 'snowflakes' on radical LIB campuses/the men in little girl's changerooms issue/the bullshit Hand's up Don't shoot' BLM farce/the 'isims' every White was supposed to be/Hillary's "Deplorable" comment/the radical LIB MSNBC and CNN in the tank for Hillary/the DNC scandals/the Pay for Play Clinton shake-down foundation/Hillary's illegal and unsecure home-brew server/Hillary lies about the cause of Benghazi and fucking on and on and on with the corrupt skank.
Add everything up and Charlie Manson could have beat her.
I felt a bit sorry for Hillary so I sent her a nice coffee mug with the State of Wisconsin screen printed on it.
I guess the 2.2 BILLION dollars Hillary spent didn't budget for a fucking map of Wisconsin.

 

[blastoff]

I just made a delightfully brilliant point in another thread, SO delightfully brilliant that it certainly deserves its own thread.



As someone who (a) did not support Trump, but (b) is still virulently anti-PC, it seems pretty clear to me that the one overriding feature of Trump's candidacy that endeared him to his voters was that he is so non-PC.

People had enough of decades of the intellectual dishonesty, cowardice and counter-productive nature of PC, it had built up to a fever pitch, and bing, just the right guy came along at just the right time.

Rather than cower when the PC zealots did their predictable screaming, his voters embraced it, ran with it, and shoved it right back in the PC zealots' face. And now, it will be President Trump.

The PC zealots are largely responsible for this guy.

Thoughts?
.

Anti-PC is but one thing that helped galvanize Trump supporters.

Oh...and Merry Christmas, HIllary! Hope it's as enjoyable as January 20th is gonna be for you. And tell Bill to wish the Energizer Bunny Happy New Year for me. Thanks, hon.

 

[Mac1958]

I just made a delightfully brilliant point in another thread, SO delightfully brilliant that it certainly deserves its own thread.



As someone who (a) did not support Trump, but (b) is still virulently anti-PC, it seems pretty clear to me that the one overriding feature of Trump's candidacy that endeared him to his voters was that he is so non-PC.

People had enough of decades of the intellectual dishonesty, cowardice and counter-productive nature of PC, it had built up to a fever pitch, and bing, just the right guy came along at just the right time.

Rather than cower when the PC zealots did their predictable screaming, his voters embraced it, ran with it, and shoved it right back in the PC zealots' face. And now, it will be President Trump.

The PC zealots are largely responsible for this guy.

Thoughts?
.

Anti-PC is but one thing that helped galvanize Trump supporters.

Oh...and Merry Christmas, HIllary! Hope it's as enjoyable as January 20th is gonna be for you. And tell Bill to wish the Energizer Bunny Happy New Year for me. Thanks, hon.

Yeah, I don't think it stood on its own, but I agree it "helped galvanize" his supporters. In a close election, that can matter.
.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I just made a delightfully brilliant point in another thread, SO delightfully brilliant that it certainly deserves its own thread.



As someone who (a) did not support Trump, but (b) is still virulently anti-PC, it seems pretty clear to me that the one overriding feature of Trump's candidacy that endeared him to his voters was that he is so non-PC.

People had enough of decades of the intellectual dishonesty, cowardice and counter-productive nature of PC, it had built up to a fever pitch, and bing, just the right guy came along at just the right time.

Rather than cower when the PC zealots did their predictable screaming, his voters embraced it, ran with it, and shoved it right back in the PC zealots' face. And now, it will be President Trump.

The PC zealots are largely responsible for this guy.

Thoughts?
.

Sorry to disappoint, but your idea has been brought up several times on USMB and one even started a thread just for that. But I'll comment the same way.

I agree and disagree. I disagree because I don't think that anybody would vote for a President simply because of the way he talks. I agree because I think his anti-PC related to people who otherwise are confused when it comes to politics. He put politics into simple language anybody can understand.

Trump talks about politics the way we do at the bar, at work, at family doings. I think people who normally don't get involved in politics bonded with his messages. And let's face it, we all know a lot of people like that. Those people get confused (and bored) when politicians dance around what they would really like to say with great concern about offending anybody.

We are political junkies here. We spend much of our lives with politics; I know I do. But we falsely assume that most people are like us when it's just the opposite. We are a very small minority in this country. So Trump found a way to get through to those people (anti-PC) and probably helped him win the presidency.

Thanks, much appreciated.

I think the role that it played was that it intensified opinions. And, theoretically, increased turnout.

No way to know. But I'm VERY pissed that I wasn't FIRST with this!


.

If 'PC' was so important, why, amidst all of this, did North Carolina elect a Democrat governor,

in the face of the very anti-PC initiatives that the Republican governor had been pushing?

 

[Mac1958]

I just made a delightfully brilliant point in another thread, SO delightfully brilliant that it certainly deserves its own thread.



As someone who (a) did not support Trump, but (b) is still virulently anti-PC, it seems pretty clear to me that the one overriding feature of Trump's candidacy that endeared him to his voters was that he is so non-PC.

People had enough of decades of the intellectual dishonesty, cowardice and counter-productive nature of PC, it had built up to a fever pitch, and bing, just the right guy came along at just the right time.

Rather than cower when the PC zealots did their predictable screaming, his voters embraced it, ran with it, and shoved it right back in the PC zealots' face. And now, it will be President Trump.

The PC zealots are largely responsible for this guy.

Thoughts?
.

Sorry to disappoint, but your idea has been brought up several times on USMB and one even started a thread just for that. But I'll comment the same way.

I agree and disagree. I disagree because I don't think that anybody would vote for a President simply because of the way he talks. I agree because I think his anti-PC related to people who otherwise are confused when it comes to politics. He put politics into simple language anybody can understand.

Trump talks about politics the way we do at the bar, at work, at family doings. I think people who normally don't get involved in politics bonded with his messages. And let's face it, we all know a lot of people like that. Those people get confused (and bored) when politicians dance around what they would really like to say with great concern about offending anybody.

We are political junkies here. We spend much of our lives with politics; I know I do. But we falsely assume that most people are like us when it's just the opposite. We are a very small minority in this country. So Trump found a way to get through to those people (anti-PC) and probably helped him win the presidency.

Thanks, much appreciated.

I think the role that it played was that it intensified opinions. And, theoretically, increased turnout.

No way to know. But I'm VERY pissed that I wasn't FIRST with this!


.

If 'PC' was so important, why, amidst all of this, did North Carolina elect a Democrat governor,

in the face of the very anti-PC initiatives that the Republican governor had been pushing?

Because life is not binary, either/or, black or white.

You wouldn't understand.
.

 

[pwjohn]

I just made a delightfully brilliant point in another thread, SO delightfully brilliant that it certainly deserves its own thread.



As someone who (a) did not support Trump, but (b) is still virulently anti-PC, it seems pretty clear to me that the one overriding feature of Trump's candidacy that endeared him to his voters was that he is so non-PC.

People had enough of decades of the intellectual dishonesty, cowardice and counter-productive nature of PC, it had built up to a fever pitch, and bing, just the right guy came along at just the right time.

Rather than cower when the PC zealots did their predictable screaming, his voters embraced it, ran with it, and shoved it right back in the PC zealots' face. And now, it will be President Trump.

The PC zealots are largely responsible for this guy.

Thoughts?
.

Delightfully brilliant? Jesus Christ, you are one strange fuck. But no, like always your analysis is off. Lack of PC didn't give Trump the win, that's not what he talked about. I've listened to many rallies, you should have listened to at least one so you could form a somewhat informed opinion instead of throwing shit against the wall everyday hoping something will stick.

MOST people don't give a shit about PC, even libs when they are trying to impress other libs. Look at them here, they get mad and call you a fag. People voted for Trump because of what he stands for and think he can get us going in the right direction. Some voted against Hillary. It isn't any more complicated than that.

At least they ( repubs ) didn't give a shit about PC this election cycle. And you can add pro anti establishment to that as well.

I was horrified by one of hillarys sound bites I saw post election of her promising to put coal mining companies out of business & coal miners out of work. That my friend is PC run amok. I sure hope the dems aren't wasting their time wondering why they lost Virginia.

So in the end, Hillary's pro establishment, "pro PC run amok stance" coupled with her high negatives, deserved or not, propelled Trump to the Whitehouse.

Sometimes running the same old shit in the same old wrapper just don't cut it. This was one of those times.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I just made a delightfully brilliant point in another thread, SO delightfully brilliant that it certainly deserves its own thread.



As someone who (a) did not support Trump, but (b) is still virulently anti-PC, it seems pretty clear to me that the one overriding feature of Trump's candidacy that endeared him to his voters was that he is so non-PC.

People had enough of decades of the intellectual dishonesty, cowardice and counter-productive nature of PC, it had built up to a fever pitch, and bing, just the right guy came along at just the right time.

Rather than cower when the PC zealots did their predictable screaming, his voters embraced it, ran with it, and shoved it right back in the PC zealots' face. And now, it will be President Trump.

The PC zealots are largely responsible for this guy.

Thoughts?
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Sorry to disappoint, but your idea has been brought up several times on USMB and one even started a thread just for that. But I'll comment the same way.

I agree and disagree. I disagree because I don't think that anybody would vote for a President simply because of the way he talks. I agree because I think his anti-PC related to people who otherwise are confused when it comes to politics. He put politics into simple language anybody can understand.

Trump talks about politics the way we do at the bar, at work, at family doings. I think people who normally don't get involved in politics bonded with his messages. And let's face it, we all know a lot of people like that. Those people get confused (and bored) when politicians dance around what they would really like to say with great concern about offending anybody.

We are political junkies here. We spend much of our lives with politics; I know I do. But we falsely assume that most people are like us when it's just the opposite. We are a very small minority in this country. So Trump found a way to get through to those people (anti-PC) and probably helped him win the presidency.

Thanks, much appreciated.

I think the role that it played was that it intensified opinions. And, theoretically, increased turnout.

No way to know. But I'm VERY pissed that I wasn't FIRST with this!


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I suspect that what took place is a lot of people that do follow politics didn't come out to vote for either candidate. People were pissed that Trump won, and on the Hillary side, people were pissed that the Socialist didn't win.

But with his anti-PC talk, he was able to bring in people that didn't normally vote. It was apparent at his rallies with packed arenas and standing room only.

Trumps most attractive message was the illegal problem in this country. Sure, Republicans ran on that in the past, and when they finally got into office, they said "We are going to work on immigration reform!" Hey idiot! did you hear us screaming anything about immigration reform? No. We were screaming about all these people coming into this country and for somebody to do something to remove the illegals that are here!

What are you going to demand that Trump do re: the "illegal problem"?

And...people came out in good numbers ( for this nation) for both candidates.

Maybe in your country, but not here in the US. From the Communist News Network:

Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016 - CNNPolitics.com

 

[my2¢]

Being non-PC was huge in winning the nomination. Going against Hillary was even a bigger advantage in the general election. She having shot herself in one foot with the private server and in the other with the Clinton Foundation.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Seriously mac, you didn't listen during the run up to the election and I don't think you will listen now.

Most of us that voted for Trump did so in spite of his language. We cringed when he said some of the things he said.

Hillary was and always will be the clear and present danger. She was and is a war hawk unlike Trump will ever be. She is more of the same from Obama. She represents the past not the future. Anyone would have beaten Hillary, anyone, it is just a matter of what degree.

The Republic was saved on November 8th. The SCOTUS nominations were just too big to give to someone as clueless as the democrats and especially Hillary. The shape of America was changed on November 8th, for the good.

Sorry you keep trying to blame her losing on something other than her being her and the reputation of the Obama administration. Now maybe if she would have been black the democrats could have picked up the votes she needed just by white guilt. But the majority of Americans outside CA elected the polar opposite, for good reasons.

I repeatedly sent Robby Mook emails pleading with him to have Hillary rub her face and hands with black shoe polish, and get 'Dallas Tent And Awning' to make her some dresses with matching hat and gloves with HUGE flower prints on them and get her ass to those S. Baptist churches where she could hone her 'ebonics'.
She would have had enough negroe 'OJ jurors' turn out to win her the election.
But no. Robby wouldn't take my advice.
Hillary's 'negro firewall' sat in the fucking shade on election day.
Obama told his negro government dependants he would take it as a personal insult if they didn't turn out and vote for what would have been Obama's third term.
The negroes essentially told him to got lost. They had received all the 'free shit' they could get from Obama in eight years so he was no longer useful to them.

I understand Hillary is gaining weight from lack of exercise. Her purse that she carries around is 10 lbs lighter now that she emptied all those hot sauce packages out of it.

 

[Mac1958]

Being non-PC was huge in winning the nomination. Going against Hillary was even a bigger advantage in the general election. She having shot herself in one foot with the private server and in the other with the Clinton Foundation.

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