Islam: Trying to Understand Jihad

[Silhouette]

In these verses-----the description is of a relatively small area of land-----which is supposed to be the land of ISRAEL----it is not "THE WHOLE WORLD as the pig muhummad promised his disgusting followers In fact it is the area of land -------which according to the historical model was owned by ABRAHAM of which he and his people had been dispossessed earlier ------It does include some southern parts of Lebanon and a bit of Sinai-----and that's about it-----it does not include SPAIN or the INDIAN subcontinent or Egypt or even Babylon ----not Persia and not Greece. gee you are dim

Now see, this is the exact type of inflammatory rhetoric that has no place in this discussion at all. However you may feel, decorum demands that you restrain yourself. You demand others restrain themselves? Well, then, lead by example or don't be suprised when you are treated the way you treat others..

It's like I'm talking to preschoolers here..

Refer to post #41 for details.

What was your point?

 

[irosie91]

In these verses-----the description is of a relatively small area of land-----which is supposed to be the land of ISRAEL----it is not "THE WHOLE WORLD as the pig muhummad promised his disgusting followers In fact it is the area of land -------which according to the historical model was owned by ABRAHAM of which he and his people had been dispossessed earlier ------It does include some southern parts of Lebanon and a bit of Sinai-----and that's about it-----it does not include SPAIN or the INDIAN subcontinent or Egypt or even Babylon ----not Persia and not Greece. gee you are dim

Now see, this is the exact type of inflammatory rhetoric that has no place in this discussion at all. However you may feel, decorum demands that you restrain yourself. You demand others restrain themselves? Well, then, lead by example or don't be suprised when you are treated the way you treat others..

It's like I'm talking to preschoolers here..

Refer to post #41 for details.

What was your point?

I reread your post #41-------my impression is the same as it
was the first time I read it-------you are clueless. You are not capable of reading with any level of understanding---either the OT or the NT. You just INVENT. There is nothing "inflammatory" about my post. --furthermore---
I am quite educated. My point in discussing the OT ---and specifically the third book of the OT-----is that it is an
account of the area which was Israel/Judea and the people who were then called "children of Israel" living there at that time-----ie their country. If you have any real questions, feel free to ask Have you ever read the ODYSSEY?---
it is an actual HISTORIC ---semi SCRPTURAL WRITING
---how about the BHAGAVID GITA?

 

[Silhouette]

..My point in discussing the OT ---and specifically the third book of the OT-----is that it is an
account of the area which was Israel/Judea and the people who were then called "children of Israel" living there at that time-----ie their country. If you have any real questions, feel free to ask Have you ever read the ODYSSEY?---
it is an actual HISTORIC ---semi SCRPTURAL WRITING
---how about the BHAGAVID GITA?

Well if you want to "go there", the Sioux were living in the Midwest since time immemorial and well...the US of A says they really don't run the joint anymore, outside of their tiny reservations. So the US has different viewpoints of indigenous peoples occupying their traditional lands....depending on who those people are..

 

[Agit8r]

It is the islamic word for crusade.

 

[irosie91]

..My point in discussing the OT ---and specifically the third book of the OT-----is that it is an
account of the area which was Israel/Judea and the people who were then called "children of Israel" living there at that time-----ie their country. If you have any real questions, feel free to ask Have you ever read the ODYSSEY?---
it is an actual HISTORIC ---semi SCRPTURAL WRITING
---how about the BHAGAVID GITA?

Well if you want to "go there", the Sioux were living in the Midwest since time immemorial and well...the US of A says they really don't run the joint anymore, outside of their tiny reservations. So the US has different viewpoints of indigenous peoples occupying their traditional lands....depending on who those people are..

I was discussing the bible and what is written therein. ------YOUR COMMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
CONVERSATION gee you are dim. Just about the whole world has differing positions on land ownership.....even you. You are just too dim to recognize how dim you are

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

PARIS: Some of the best-known cartoonists in France were among the 12 killed when gunmen stormed the office of satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo in Paris on Wednesday, a judicial source said.
Editor-in-chief Stephane Charbonnier, known as Charb, and the cartoonists known as Cabu, Tignous and Wolinski were killed in the attack on the paper, which gained notoriety for repeatedly publishing caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed. Paris shooting 4 cartoonists including chief editor shot dead - The Times of India

Ok, so the title says it all. I am trying to understand Jihad.

Whenever there is a fight between neighbors, its best to try to get into the head of your opponent to discover what it is that makes him tick; and where he may be coming from in his complaints.

The attack in France was terrible. And there surely will be more to come. Why is that? Let's explore the fundamental differences between the Muslim radical and Western minds.

I'm going to play devil's advocate here. What would possess someone to become so enraged, so furious, so blind with revenge as to walk into a political publicataion office and mow a bunch of people he's never met down like grass? There is something in the mind of a Muslim that has turned into a monster of larger proportions. We all know how a herd reacts. Humans are nothing more than this when a concept whips into a certain "tipping point".

What has whipped into that in this instance into an attack? Well, for starters, the publication depicted Muhammed the Prophet as a figure. That is expressly forbidden in Islam. An individual doing such a thing might be less enraging because who is going to read something an individual did, someone that nobody really knows? Nobody. But when a major publication prints a comic of the Prophet Muhammed, it is assumed that a large portion of Muslims will see it. After all, there are a billion of them.

Let's try to look at the offense from their perspective. The equivalent would be if the New York Times released a satirical cartoon of the Virgin Mary being raped by a donkey. This is how offensive it is to them.

Let me tell you why I believe them when they say it is offensive. I'll try to be brief here. From what I understand of Islam, which is very little, the Prophet Muhammed didn't want to be worshipped. I think he came to correct what the Roman Catholic Church got wrong with the Prophet Jesus. Instead of making the religion about Jesus's words, Rome thought it would be a cool idea to ignore Jesus' own warning not to worship him but to "Hear the words of my Father in Heaven" instead. So Rome thought it would be politically expedient to entice the pagans into the new faith by appealing to their penchant for worshipping idols. So they plaster churches with images of Jesus on the cross, the Virgin Mary...and so it becomes a psuedo cult with all the ritual trappings of the pagan days...yadda yadda yadda.

For all we know, the Hindus may be right. Jesus may have incarnated in Muhammed to set old wrongs to right? Can't be sure.

The offense of depicting any prophet is to dilute his or her message. Humans have this funny genetic mandate to worship an alpha, to set aside common sense even to placate a dominant figure. So this interferes with the proper purpose of religion, which is to inspire a direct connection within each man to the Source of All There Is. The minute you put an image of Muhammed up, there becomes an association in the mind of the faithful. The next thing you know, they are building mosques with the image of Muhammed all over the place and the focus leaves what the man said, and turns instead to "what he looks like"....and "daily rituals" that instead of inspiring deep faith and connection, begin to take on a wooden, unreflective gesture of stoic obedience.

I'm pretty sure this isn't what The Source of All There Is wanted. That Source, from what I've read in the Bible at least, wants people to be free individuals who are immersed in a sea of temptation but who find their inner strength to resist the earthly temptations on their own. I also feel that different cultures are vital in that we do reincarnate and that different souls are in different stages of this hardening. I think this is how we can urge all religions to see that they are all vital in different forms and serve their different stages of learning, like different class levels in school. As I recall, the purpose of life is because God got lonely and wants company. But He wants to make sure that the company he is with is worthy of Himself. Someone he can trust implicitly. Someone who has been so thrust into the fires so many times that there isn't anything left in that soul but pure wisdom. You have to admit, Earth is an ingenius Plan if this really is His true goal.

That's how I see it. But I welcome other perspectives. The main focus of this thread isn't to "bow to terrorists". It is instead to try to understand their perspective. There is motivation behind every madness and we'd do well to understand it. Like I said, from their perspective, the entire hinge of their religion relies upon their Prophet being anonymous. That's where it begins for them. So since Christianity's entire hinge is the Virgin Birth (when you trace it back) that signifies Christ's Words as synonymous with God's words, the equivalent of what the Charlie Hebdoe publication did was for the New York Times to have published a picture of the Virgin Mary being raped by a donkey.

I can see the comparison and the level of disrespect a Muslim might feel. That's called "putting yourself in your opponent's shoes"..

Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus but she had children after Jesus. This is well established in The New Testament. Christianity hinges on the fact that Jesus Christ is God who came to earth in the form of a man - using Mary as that vessel - she was a sinner saved by grace - just as all who have believed upon Christ for their salvation - have received. She had other children which makes her no longer a Virgin and she was never immaculate because not one has ever been born without sin - except Christ. (who didn't come through Adam and Eve but through the Holy Spirit) It would not make a bit of difference to me if they published a picture of Mary being raped by a donkey. I have no expectations from the world to live the life of a Christian without Christ. It isn't possible and nothing they would do apart from Jesus would shock me. Absolutely nothing. p.s. Mary was never a Catholic. She was a follower of Jesus Christ and never prayed to an idol or a statue in her life, never called any man father, didn't use a confessional to confess her sins to a man calling himself father, never participated in any false teachings or rituals as the Catholics are known to do - according to the bible Mary didn't do any of those things. The Catholics have a different Mary - she is a demon also known as Queen of heaven.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I understand that it was very painful for you ADMIT that you were wrong.


Let me explain the reasons why

Attacks against Zionist Jews began 4 years after the Zionist invasion of 1925 once the Palestinian Farmers learned that the Zionists' plan was to murder and /or disappear them by any means necessary


That would enrage me, wouldn't you?

.

You are are an unabashed terrorist supporter, whose insane hatred of Jews blinds you to all else in the world.

I am not.

The LORD loves Zion and those who have hatred in their hearts for Zion are the enemies of God Almighty who created heaven and earth. Bottom line is if you are anti - Zion - you are anti God and and have declared yourself His sworn enemy.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

wise up g....

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.

As does the Christian bible. You should read it sometime. God directs the Israelites to invade lands and kill everyone in them and take the lands as God's gift to them. There are long, long sections of the bible devoted to these ethnic cleansings.

Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding.

Again, read the Christian bible and the atrocities directed toward men, women, and children.

Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.

The Quran s Verses of Violence

Selective bias fed to you by bigots.

Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

I instruct you in ten matters for war: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty, and do not be cowardly.

The battles of Joshua were for a certain time, people and place. It is history. It isn't happening today. To the contrary the jihad of Islam has never ended because it can be called for self defense and for oppression. Oppression could be a movie theatre on your corner block and because they now live in your neighborhood instead of their own Islamic state (where they came from) and the movie playing offends them - they have a right to wage jihad against you and your neighbors. You need to wake up G5000.

 

[irosie91]

..My point in discussing the OT ---and specifically the third book of the OT-----is that it is an
account of the area which was Israel/Judea and the people who were then called "children of Israel" living there at that time-----ie their country. If you have any real questions, feel free to ask Have you ever read the ODYSSEY?---
it is an actual HISTORIC ---semi SCRPTURAL WRITING
---how about the BHAGAVID GITA?

Well if you want to "go there", the Sioux were living in the Midwest since time immemorial and well...the US of A says they really don't run the joint anymore, outside of their tiny reservations. So the US has different viewpoints of indigenous peoples occupying their traditional lands....depending on who those people are..

I am curious regarding your statement
"well, if you want to go there....." where is 'there'?

 

[irosie91]

wise up g....

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.

As does the Christian bible. You should read it sometime. God directs the Israelites to invade lands and kill everyone in them and take the lands as God's gift to them. There are long, long sections of the bible devoted to these ethnic cleansings.

Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding.

Again, read the Christian bible and the atrocities directed toward men, women, and children.

Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.

The Quran s Verses of Violence

Selective bias fed to you by bigots.

Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

I instruct you in ten matters for war: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty, and do not be cowardly.

The battles of Joshua were for a certain time, people and place. It is history. It isn't happening today. To the contrary the jihad of Islam has never ended because it can be called for self defense and for oppression. Oppression could be a movie theatre on your corner block and because they now live in your neighborhood instead of their own Islamic state (where they came from) and the movie playing offends them - they have a right to wage jihad against you and your neighbors. You need to wake up G5000.

Jeremiah----most of the people who cite the bible on this
messageboard-----never read it.

 

[irosie91]

wise up g....

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.

As does the Christian bible. You should read it sometime. God directs the Israelites to invade lands and kill everyone in them and take the lands as God's gift to them. There are long, long sections of the bible devoted to these ethnic cleansings.

Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding.

Again, read the Christian bible and the atrocities directed toward men, women, and children.

Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.

The Quran s Verses of Violence

Selective bias fed to you by bigots.

Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

I instruct you in ten matters for war: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty, and do not be cowardly.

The battles of Joshua were for a certain time, people and place. It is history. It isn't happening today. To the contrary the jihad of Islam has never ended because it can be called for self defense and for oppression. Oppression could be a movie theatre on your corner block and because they now live in your neighborhood instead of their own Islamic state (where they came from) and the movie playing offends them - they have a right to wage jihad against you and your neighbors. You need to wake up G5000.

for the record-----there are NO verses in either the old or new
Testaments directing anyone to invade lands or attempt to force conversion or enslave those who do not convert or kill them. The Koran does contain such verses AND doing
so is incorporated into SHARIAH LAW.

 

[Silhouette]

I was discussing the bible and what is written therein. ------YOUR COMMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
CONVERSATION gee you are dim. Just about the whole world has differing positions on land ownership.....even you. You are just too dim to recognize how dim you are

You were quoting the Old Testament to justify the Jews returning to Israel and claiming that land because of a historical presence there before.

The Sioux in the Midwest is perfectly admissable as a rebuttal to that comment. My point being that if every indigenous people moved back to where they were displaced and demanded the current residents there abdicate their generations-long occupation, we'd have like 100 world wars going on simultaneously.

Or, conversely, my point was if you are posting what you said from your comfortable home in the Dakotas in the US, you are a hypocrite.

As to your points about muslims, I agree. Their laws and customs go too far. They are as repugnant to me as the idea of so-called "christian missionaries" who go around to all these cultures trying to convert them.

The world needs diversity in cultures AND faiths. This is precisely because such a large diversity allows the individual a chance to look outside their box and in so doing, loosen their myopia and have a chance at walking between cultures to access the Truth on their own.

You have to follow my theory in the OP to make sense of this. The Supreme Being doesnt want a bunch of cookie-cutter obedients, beaten that way with a hammer (the culture they grew up in). The Supreme Being wants independent beings who CHOSE to be by Its side, freely, of their own will...and after much temptation. This is the fire in which a soul's steele is tempered. Perhaps there are temptations outside this physical plane that make Las Vegas Nevada look like child's play? Maybe there is a need for this tempering. A rigidly obedient slave would at once I'd think be very boring to an ultimately complex being like the Almighty; and at the same time crack like a dry twig in the Sahara when push came to shove "out there"..

The average jihadist fails to see this: That as much as the US seems out of control with its freedoms, a free nation like the US is necessary for that final polishing. It isn't that the US is better than this or that country, it's just a vital component in the testing grounds where souls are proven or discarded as slag. It is an advanced test to turn your hawk free for the first time, really truly free and see if it returns to you of its own free will.

That being said, there is a tipping point like with Soddom; where a culture becomes so devoid even of basic morality, where the Hand of God has to wipe that slate clean. That is because so immersed, even the finest of souls with the best intentions don't have a chance of escaping that deviant peer pressure. The US is close, I'll admit that. But jihadists are pulling a close second. Especially the ones following men instead of Allah's voice. A prophet is merely a go-between from the Source of All there is, to men on earth. They are renewed periodically as new times call for that. That new coat of paint.

As time rolls on their words get laquered with the ideas of the powerful men posing as spiritual leaders. It never fails. This is where diversions begin. One must stop oneself, go inside and be sure that what one is doing really is the call of God and not some human errand disguised as a spiritual one.

 

[irosie91]

I was discussing the bible and what is written therein. ------YOUR COMMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
CONVERSATION gee you are dim. Just about the whole world has differing positions on land ownership.....even you. You are just too dim to recognize how dim you are

You were quoting the Old Testament to justify the Jews returning to Israel and claiming that land because of a historical presence there before.


rosie>> WRONG----the topic of this thread is "JIHAD" and the issue I addressed was the incessant claim by your
fellow islamo Nazi pigs that the bible-----someone specifically mentioned the third book of the OT demands that jews go
around killing people as your fellow islamo Nazi pigs have done and continue to do. One of your fellow islamo Nazi pigs cited a few verses out of the bible which the piece of crap imagines he understands------we were discussing their actual meaning. The conversation had nothing to do with
Jewish country thousands of years ago. It was related to
jews who returned from Egypt to lands that had been theirs
a few generations earlier and encountering people with whom they had already had disputes before they left. Try to focus.

You and yours are trying desperately to justify your filth in
France------based on what you wish are biblical LAWS.
as opposed to the reality. The filth enacted by your people
in France is based on the KORAN-----not the bible--neither the NT nor the OT. Furthermore----FRANCE is not
Israel/Judea. --------but historically it was invaded by islamo Nazi pigs -------many times both the german variety and the arab variety. Lately the filth is of the arab variety.
----actually nothing new -------arab filth invaded southern
France in the eighth century too. Some people don't know
about it. They invaded France because of their religion back
in the eighth century and they murdered in France for the same reason. Israel/Judea has nothing to do with the
conversation nor do the SIOUX Indians displaced by European invaders

 

[haissem123]

hey rosie. haven't the jews taken over this world and turned it into the hell it is now? from wall street to hollywood, from propaganda on our tvs news with debeers diamonds and the worlds greatest war machines run by our corrupt governments and on and on, jews lead the path to hell for this world. don't they? they have infiltrated all these important aspects of our lives for sheer profit of a few. Wolfowitz, kissinger, goldmensacs, all of hollywood which poisons our minds, debeers bloody diamonds, bloombergs goldmen sacking our retirements and enslaving us all globally, do we need more evidance of the evil spirit of your people and their God? then you wonder why nazi round you up and burn you. ? then the rich jews leave the poor ones to burn. your God is going to punish us for following your misguided greedy people to hell for selling our souls. it's same old song and dance. your people have been chosen to ruin this world with your foolish pride and vanity

 

[haissem123]

I understand that it was very painful for you ADMIT that you were wrong.


Let me explain the reasons why

Attacks against Zionist Jews began 4 years after the Zionist invasion of 1925 once the Palestinian Farmers learned that the Zionists' plan was to murder and /or disappear them by any means necessary


That would enrage me, wouldn't you?

.

You are are an unabashed terrorist supporter, whose insane hatred of Jews blinds you to all else in the world.

I am not.

The LORD loves Zion and those who have hatred in their hearts for Zion are the enemies of God Almighty who created heaven and earth. Bottom line is if you are anti - Zion - you are anti God and and have declared yourself His sworn enemy.

what's zion? and who the hell told you it's yours or God's? do you believe everything you read? then believe your people are still wandering in the dessert

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I understand that it was very painful for you ADMIT that you were wrong.


Let me explain the reasons why

Attacks against Zionist Jews began 4 years after the Zionist invasion of 1925 once the Palestinian Farmers learned that the Zionists' plan was to murder and /or disappear them by any means necessary


That would enrage me, wouldn't you?

.

You are are an unabashed terrorist supporter, whose insane hatred of Jews blinds you to all else in the world.

I am not.

The LORD loves Zion and those who have hatred in their hearts for Zion are the enemies of God Almighty who created heaven and earth. Bottom line is if you are anti - Zion - you are anti God and and have declared yourself His sworn enemy.

what's zion? and who the hell told you it's yours or God's? do you believe everything you read? then believe your people are still wandering in the dessert

I believe my Bible and I believe the Torah and Tanach! I believe God! If the Jews were ever wandering around in a dessert I would like to know was it vanilla pudding or on top of a cake? I missed that story completely! Where's Rosie? She'll know! When in doubt? Ask Rosie!!

 

[Silhouette]

hey rosie. haven't the jews taken over this world and turned it into the hell it is now? from wall street to hollywood, from propaganda on our tvs news with debeers diamonds and the worlds greatest war machines run by our corrupt governments and on and on, jews lead the path to hell for this world. don't they? they have infiltrated all these important aspects of our lives for sheer profit of a few. Wolfowitz, kissinger, goldmensacs, all of hollywood which poisons our minds, debeers bloody diamonds, bloombergs goldmen sacking our retirements and enslaving us all globally, do we need more evidance of the evil spirit of your people and their God? then you wonder why nazi round you up and burn you. ? then the rich jews leave the poor ones to burn. your God is going to punish us for following your misguided greedy people to hell for selling our souls. it's same old song and dance. your people have been chosen to ruin this world with your foolish pride and vanity

Making friends Haissem?

The purpose of this thread isn't going to be the tiresome tirade between jews and muslims or whatever. I mean yeah, we get it. You guys hate each other. *yawn*....zzzzzzzzzzz.....

That goes for you too irosie. The whole point is when you have blinders on, it's hard to see the Spirit.

 

[irosie91]

hey rosie. haven't the jews taken over this world and turned it into the hell it is now? from wall street to hollywood, from propaganda on our tvs news with debeers diamonds and the worlds greatest war machines run by our corrupt governments and on and on, jews lead the path to hell for this world. don't they? they have infiltrated all these important aspects of our lives for sheer profit of a few. Wolfowitz, kissinger, goldmensacs, all of hollywood which poisons our minds, debeers bloody diamonds, bloombergs goldmen sacking our retirements and enslaving us all globally, do we need more evidance of the evil spirit of your people and their God? then you wonder why nazi round you up and burn you. ? then the rich jews leave the poor ones to burn. your God is going to punish us for following your misguided greedy people to hell for selling our souls. it's same old song and dance. your people have been chosen to ruin this world with your foolish pride and vanity

for those who do not know---haitesem has parroted an example of the stinking shit which is thrown into the ears of muslim children every Friday in a "lesson" known as KHUTBAH JUMAAT. It is the kind of stuff that encourages their sluts to tie bombs to their overtrafficed asses. If I had not heard such filth in a mosque----I would never have believed it

 

[irosie91]

I understand that it was very painful for you ADMIT that you were wrong.


Let me explain the reasons why

Attacks against Zionist Jews began 4 years after the Zionist invasion of 1925 once the Palestinian Farmers learned that the Zionists' plan was to murder and /or disappear them by any means necessary


That would enrage me, wouldn't you?

.

You are are an unabashed terrorist supporter, whose insane hatred of Jews blinds you to all else in the world.

I am not.

The LORD loves Zion and those who have hatred in their hearts for Zion are the enemies of God Almighty who created heaven and earth. Bottom line is if you are anti - Zion - you are anti God and and have declared yourself His sworn enemy.

what's zion? and who the hell told you it's yours or God's? do you believe everything you read? then believe your people are still wandering in the dessert

what invasion of 1925? I get the feeling that the latest mosque shit includes a notion that once the "CALIPHATE" ----ie the Ottoman thing, was torn down----THEN DA JOOOOOS took over. Muslim sluts and pigs change history ever Tuesday the Thursday. This new shit is probably something to prime the idiots to seek
****THE CALIPHATE*****

 

[Silhouette]

Round and round and round and round and round and round

"I hate you and HERE'S WHY!!"...

"Well you an asshole and HERE'S WHY!!"

"But you deserve it and HERE'S WHY!!"

"Idiot!! Your grandfather killed my grandfather!!"

"Had it coming!!"

on and on and on and on and on and on and on. Like two old sisters fighting over grandma's dried up leather purse because it has historical significance to both of them.

But if either of you would be still, go on a retreat. Sit in a quiet place for an extended period of time, you would quickly come to realize that you both have a common enemy: that dark energy that fans the flames of anger and that keeps you busy talking to yourself in your mind all the time.

Shut off that internal dialogue. Starve the beast. And in so doing you will hear the voice of the Spirit. But you have to be quiet in order to hear things. That's what the Buddhists would say. The Hindus would say that each of you will be born in the other's country next time around to see how it is standing in their shoes.

There really is a need for different cultures because there are grains of truth in all of them that are lacking in others. Our mission is to gather the grains of truth.

Besides, you know how men behave when they get a monopoly on power. Can you imagine for a moment, a one-world religion? Sure the guy at the top now may be some great Imam, Pope, Rabbi or whatever. But what about next generation? The Great Messmaker would make sure one of his errand-boys got in that position sooner or later. Diversity keeps the beast at bay.