Italy Death Rate Hits 7%

[eagle1462010]

Of Course and every country on earth is trying to limit the spread..................but at least most of them aren't acting like COMPLETE MORONS like here in the UNITED STATES..........

Politics from HELL and a MEDIA HYPING THE DANG THING UP...........and accusing Trump of everything in the book.........Then the markets crash and THEY GO LOOK WHAT TRUMP DID.

IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE.............and in the end the Mortality Rate will be a BEST GUESS.......because they have no way of knowing how many had it and didn't get recorded...........as I have shown in this very thread..............ITALY is SAYING THAT ALREADY HAPPENED.......

So how do we know the 7% is ACCURATE.......WE DON'T........And it causes FEAR AND PANIC..........Which is NOT WHAT IS NEEDED NOW.........That needs to END.

*yawn* - more excuses.

Trump's first thoughts and reactions to the COVID-19 pandemic were focused purely on how it would affect him politically. Even now, it's a constant stream of excuses. He's a horrible leader with no dignity, no shame, no sense of responsibility or accountability. I really do not understand the people who continue to support him. Are they really that afraid of Democrats? Surely they can find someone better than Trump. Why don't they even try? We really need them to.

And here you play the same damned game.................Trump did the travel ban to China AGAINST WHO ....World Health Organization........and was later told he did the right thing. Biden played the xenophobia BS..............

He also did the Quaranteens...............and did the Emergency Powers Act early for Disaster Relief Resources and allowing across State Line business for the virus VERY EARLY....Allowed Funding, and less Regs to fight the virus.............

8 Billion already passed.........for assistance along with the Billions in FEMA disaster relief funds..........
Asking for 50 billion to ease the economic pain of this..........

He has done a good job.............and yet the Media has nonstop attacked him.

Results..............the virus Blew up in Europe..............hasn't here yet............It has bought us TIME.......Europe listened to the WHO.......how are they doing now........hmmm

I'm done reading the strained, idiotic excuses. It's essentially arguing religion with you people. You believe in Trump and will never, ever, acknowledge his failures. For that, I can only say fuck you very much.

Sorry. That was over the top. But it's getting so tiresome listening these brain dead people simply parroting Trump's excuses.

I posted the actions so far........and they have been helpful........will we escape what's coming.......NOPE.......Has it been minimized and bought us time...........YUP

They are saying a Vaccine has been created and is being tested on animals in Texas right now.........Reports from Israel say the same.........Test kits are starting to pour off assembly lines....

The time was needed.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Don't you think it's a little disingenuous to post those statistics.

I read that 7% of Italy is dying. Which I know it isn't. But it sure seems like a stupid title.

Next. You have a concentrated area that has many factors which could be causing the high rate...not to mention they got started early (which bring a whole lot of issues).

Your reading comprehension is what seems to be the problem

 

[Pogo]

Don't you think it's a little disingenuous to post those statistics.

I read that 7% of Italy is dying. Which I know it isn't. But it sure seems like a stupid title.

Next. You have a concentrated area that has many factors which could be causing the high rate...not to mention they got started early (which bring a whole lot of issues).

And actually 7% mortality exactly matches the worldwide experience anyway, so singling Italy out is also misleading.

Total Closed Cases: 80,252
Cases which had an outcome:
74,438 (93%)
Recovered / Discharged

5,814 (7%)
Deaths

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

*yawn* - more excuses.

Trump's first thoughts and reactions to the COVID-19 pandemic were focused purely on how it would affect him politically. Even now, it's a constant stream of excuses. He's a horrible leader with no dignity, no shame, no sense of responsibility or accountability. I really do not understand the people who continue to support him. Are they really that afraid of Democrats? Surely they can find someone better than Trump. Why don't they even try? We really need them to.

And here you play the same damned game.................Trump did the travel ban to China AGAINST WHO ....World Health Organization........and was later told he did the right thing. Biden played the xenophobia BS..............

He also did the Quaranteens...............and did the Emergency Powers Act early for Disaster Relief Resources and allowing across State Line business for the virus VERY EARLY....Allowed Funding, and less Regs to fight the virus.............

8 Billion already passed.........for assistance along with the Billions in FEMA disaster relief funds..........
Asking for 50 billion to ease the economic pain of this..........

He has done a good job.............and yet the Media has nonstop attacked him.

Results..............the virus Blew up in Europe..............hasn't here yet............It has bought us TIME.......Europe listened to the WHO.......how are they doing now........hmmm

I'm done reading the strained, idiotic excuses. It's essentially arguing religion with you people. You believe in Trump and will never, ever, acknowledge his failures. For that, I can only say fuck you very much.

Sorry. That was over the top. But it's getting so tiresome listening these brain dead people simply parroting Trump's excuses.

I posted the actions so far........and they have been helpful........will we escape what's coming.......NOPE.......Has it been minimized and bought us time...........YUP

They are saying a Vaccine has been created and is being tested on animals in Texas right now.........Reports from Israel say the same.........Test kits are starting to pour off assembly lines....

The time was needed.

And while we were waiting for The Articles, this was spreading. Liberals have a lot of blood to answer for.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Outbreak Investigations
This is close to the analysis I summarize but it provides the same conclusions.
Using Kalman Filter to Predict Corona Virus Spread

Using Kalman Filter to Predict Corona Virus Spread

As a beginning, let’s briefly compare the COVID19 to an older fatal virus-Ebola. Ebola is not a new disease (first cases were identified in 1976) but in 2014 and 2018 it erupted again until these days.
* The fatality rate of EBOV is much higher and may reach a 75% death case comparing to ~2.7% death of COVID19. It must be noted that COVID19 is an ongoing disease so the fatality rate is not final and will most likely increase.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...0306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_2

Mortality for COVID-19 appears higher than for influenza, especially seasonal influenza. While the true mortality of COVID-19 will take some time to fully understand, the data we have so far indicate that the crude mortality ratio (the number of reported deaths divided by the reported cases) is between 3-4%, the infection mortality rate (the number of reported deaths divided by the number of infections) will be lower. For seasonal influenza, mortality is usually well below 0.1%. However, mortality is to a large extent determined by access to and quality of health care.

Estimating Risk for Death from 2019 Novel Coronavirus Disease, China, January–February 2020

In conclusion, our estimates of the risk for death from COVID-19 in China as of February 11, 2020, were as high as 12% in the epicenter of the epidemic and as low as ≈1% in the less severely affected areas in China. Because the risk for death from COVID-19 is probably associated with a breakdown of the healthcare system in the absence of pharmaceutical interventions (i.e., vaccination and antiviral drugs), enhanced public health interventions (including social distancing measures, quarantine, enhanced infection control in healthcare settings, and movement restrictions), as well as enhanced hygienic measures in the general population and an increase in healthcare system capacity, should be implemented to rapidly contain the epidemic.


In South Korea it was 0.7% with far more tests done........
The CDC article shows their testing methods..........and how they get the rate....

The NUMBERS from different centers and studies ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.........That is my point.

Yes but all of the preliminary numbers leave no doubt that if there is not serious mitigation we will have a disaster.
The mitigation is going to cause great short term damage to the economy and our daily lives but if we do not do it, the long term damage will be worse

Of COURSE......and we are trying to mitigate it...........but putting out high numbers only leads to HYSTERIA..................and runs on the grocery stores..........We already have that.............PANIC AND CHAOS fueled by the MEDIA isn't the answer..............and THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT WE HAVE.

The media is doing a tremendous job in stirring up panic among the General Population in regards to this bug. Their hope, their dream , is to create Economic Collapse in America so that they can blame it on Trump and Sleepy Joe will be the new FDR to lead the country into a Raw Deal and a new World War.

But if people would step back and sober up, they'd realize that even a majority of the very old- and almost all of the youths - would be able to survive this virus no problem.

Just think we might have really prevented this if we weren't 100% focused on a fake impeachment. Sad how many Schiff killed.

Do you think firing the entire pandemic team in 2018 helped. The past is the past. Everyone must focus on what can be done going forward.
I have heard a lot of ridiculous blaming for this crisis but yours is the most ridiculous.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

And here you play the same damned game.................Trump did the travel ban to China AGAINST WHO ....World Health Organization........and was later told he did the right thing. Biden played the xenophobia BS..............

He also did the Quaranteens...............and did the Emergency Powers Act early for Disaster Relief Resources and allowing across State Line business for the virus VERY EARLY....Allowed Funding, and less Regs to fight the virus.............

8 Billion already passed.........for assistance along with the Billions in FEMA disaster relief funds..........
Asking for 50 billion to ease the economic pain of this..........

He has done a good job.............and yet the Media has nonstop attacked him.

Results..............the virus Blew up in Europe..............hasn't here yet............It has bought us TIME.......Europe listened to the WHO.......how are they doing now........hmmm

I'm done reading the strained, idiotic excuses. It's essentially arguing religion with you people. You believe in Trump and will never, ever, acknowledge his failures. For that, I can only say fuck you very much.

Sorry. That was over the top. But it's getting so tiresome listening these brain dead people simply parroting Trump's excuses.

I posted the actions so far........and they have been helpful........will we escape what's coming.......NOPE.......Has it been minimized and bought us time...........YUP

They are saying a Vaccine has been created and is being tested on animals in Texas right now.........Reports from Israel say the same.........Test kits are starting to pour off assembly lines....

The time was needed.

And while we were waiting for The Articles, this was spreading. Liberals have a lot of blood to answer for.

Who exactly has blood on their hands??

How we know Trump was lying when he said ‘I didn’t do it’ and ‘I don’t know anything about’ closing the pandemic office

Focus for a moment on this extremely important fact: President Donald Trump shut down the White House Pandemic Office in 2018, and less than two years later America and the world are struggling through a global health emergency that Trump’s own administration says could kill 5.1 million people in this country alone.

 

[ElmerMudd]

And here you play the same damned game.................Trump did the travel ban to China AGAINST WHO ....World Health Organization........and was later told he did the right thing. Biden played the xenophobia BS..............

He also did the Quaranteens...............and did the Emergency Powers Act early for Disaster Relief Resources and allowing across State Line business for the virus VERY EARLY....Allowed Funding, and less Regs to fight the virus.............

8 Billion already passed.........for assistance along with the Billions in FEMA disaster relief funds..........
Asking for 50 billion to ease the economic pain of this..........

He has done a good job.............and yet the Media has nonstop attacked him.

Results..............the virus Blew up in Europe..............hasn't here yet............It has bought us TIME.......Europe listened to the WHO.......how are they doing now........hmmm

I'm done reading the strained, idiotic excuses. It's essentially arguing religion with you people. You believe in Trump and will never, ever, acknowledge his failures. For that, I can only say fuck you very much.

Sorry. That was over the top. But it's getting so tiresome listening these brain dead people simply parroting Trump's excuses.

I posted the actions so far........and they have been helpful........will we escape what's coming.......NOPE.......Has it been minimized and bought us time...........YUP

They are saying a Vaccine has been created and is being tested on animals in Texas right now.........Reports from Israel say the same.........Test kits are starting to pour off assembly lines....

The time was needed.

And while we were waiting for The Articles, this was spreading. Liberals have a lot of blood to answer for.

I understand what you mean, now. Since we did not have a pandemic planning team at the CDC, Schiff and his committe should have been spending their time planning for a pandemic. That makes a lot of sense.

 

[Polishprince]

Using Kalman Filter to Predict Corona Virus Spread

As a beginning, let’s briefly compare the COVID19 to an older fatal virus-Ebola. Ebola is not a new disease (first cases were identified in 1976) but in 2014 and 2018 it erupted again until these days.
* The fatality rate of EBOV is much higher and may reach a 75% death case comparing to ~2.7% death of COVID19. It must be noted that COVID19 is an ongoing disease so the fatality rate is not final and will most likely increase.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...0306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_2

Mortality for COVID-19 appears higher than for influenza, especially seasonal influenza. While the true mortality of COVID-19 will take some time to fully understand, the data we have so far indicate that the crude mortality ratio (the number of reported deaths divided by the reported cases) is between 3-4%, the infection mortality rate (the number of reported deaths divided by the number of infections) will be lower. For seasonal influenza, mortality is usually well below 0.1%. However, mortality is to a large extent determined by access to and quality of health care.

Estimating Risk for Death from 2019 Novel Coronavirus Disease, China, January–February 2020

In conclusion, our estimates of the risk for death from COVID-19 in China as of February 11, 2020, were as high as 12% in the epicenter of the epidemic and as low as ≈1% in the less severely affected areas in China. Because the risk for death from COVID-19 is probably associated with a breakdown of the healthcare system in the absence of pharmaceutical interventions (i.e., vaccination and antiviral drugs), enhanced public health interventions (including social distancing measures, quarantine, enhanced infection control in healthcare settings, and movement restrictions), as well as enhanced hygienic measures in the general population and an increase in healthcare system capacity, should be implemented to rapidly contain the epidemic.


In South Korea it was 0.7% with far more tests done........
The CDC article shows their testing methods..........and how they get the rate....

The NUMBERS from different centers and studies ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.........That is my point.

Yes but all of the preliminary numbers leave no doubt that if there is not serious mitigation we will have a disaster.
The mitigation is going to cause great short term damage to the economy and our daily lives but if we do not do it, the long term damage will be worse

Of COURSE......and we are trying to mitigate it...........but putting out high numbers only leads to HYSTERIA..................and runs on the grocery stores..........We already have that.............PANIC AND CHAOS fueled by the MEDIA isn't the answer..............and THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT WE HAVE.

The media is doing a tremendous job in stirring up panic among the General Population in regards to this bug. Their hope, their dream , is to create Economic Collapse in America so that they can blame it on Trump and Sleepy Joe will be the new FDR to lead the country into a Raw Deal and a new World War.

But if people would step back and sober up, they'd realize that even a majority of the very old- and almost all of the youths - would be able to survive this virus no problem.

Just think we might have really prevented this if we weren't 100% focused on a fake impeachment. Sad how many Schiff killed.

Do you think firing the entire pandemic team in 2018 helped. The past is the past. Everyone must focus on what can be done going forward.
I have heard a lot of ridiculous blaming for this crisis but yours is the most ridiculous.

If the previous employees were worth a shit, they would have never been fired.

So it didn't hurt getting rid of the dead wood.

 

[eagle1462010]

Trump did try to cut them.......but they actually got more money in the spending bill.........He can't just cut whatever he wants.......Congress still holds the purse strings.

He didn't fire the pandemic team .........some QUIT............LEFT........so that is BS.

 

[Pogo]

I'm done reading the strained, idiotic excuses. It's essentially arguing religion with you people. You believe in Trump and will never, ever, acknowledge his failures. For that, I can only say fuck you very much.

Sorry. That was over the top. But it's getting so tiresome listening these brain dead people simply parroting Trump's excuses.

I posted the actions so far........and they have been helpful........will we escape what's coming.......NOPE.......Has it been minimized and bought us time...........YUP

They are saying a Vaccine has been created and is being tested on animals in Texas right now.........Reports from Israel say the same.........Test kits are starting to pour off assembly lines....

The time was needed.

And while we were waiting for The Articles, this was spreading. Liberals have a lot of blood to answer for.

Who exactly has blood on their hands??

How we know Trump was lying when he said ‘I didn’t do it’ and ‘I don’t know anything about’ closing the pandemic office

Focus for a moment on this extremely important fact: President Donald Trump shut down the White House Pandemic Office in 2018, and less than two years later America and the world are struggling through a global health emergency that Trump’s own administration says could kill 5.1 million people in this country alone.

Revealing, thanks. "Nasty" link there.

Rump also just a few days ago claimed to be ignorant of the fact that such a flu can kill people --- which is all the more amazing given the fact that such a flu killed his own grandfather at the age of 49. Yet somehow he never heard of it.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Why Is the Coronavirus Outbreak So Bad in Italy?

How did coronavirus start spreading in Italy?
Officially it began in Feb. 20, when a 38-year-old man checked himself into a local hospital in the town of Codogno in Lombardy. He tested positive with the virus, becoming the first recorded patient with the COVID-19 virus in Italy.

Yet some health officials believe that the virus arrived in Italy long before the first case was discovered. “The virus had probably been circulating for quite some time,” Flavia Riccardo, a researcher in the Department of Infectious Diseases at the Italian National Institute of Health tells TIME. “This happened right when we were having our peak of influenza and people were presenting with influenza symptoms.”

Before the first case was reported, there was an unusually high number of pneumonia cases recorded at a hospital in Codogno in northern Italy, the head of the emergency ward Stefano Paglia told the newspaper La Repubblica, suggesting it is possible patients with the virus were treated as if they had a seasonal flu. Health facilities hosting these patients could have become sites for infection, helping proliferate the spread of the virus.

The northern regions of Lombardy, Veneto and Emilia-Romagna, have been most affected by the outbreak. 85% of infected patients are in the region which is home to 92% of deaths so far. But the virus has been confirmed in all 20 regions of the country.



Italy itself SAYS WHAT I'M SAYING.............They say they think many got treated for the Flu.....and may have actually had the Coronavirus........

Proving what I'm saying here..........HOW MANY HAD IT..........HAVE IT.........AND AREN'T RECORDED.

Most cases of the flu are also not recorded, but yeah, I agree with what you're saying.

You need to educate yourself. Your simple analysis results in an incorrect conclusion. You need to consider all metrics in epidemic analytics. You are only looking at total deaths. You need to factor the number of individuals in the population that are susceptible to the disease, how contagious and how deadly the virus is.
You are trying to do an analysis using addition and subtraction only. You need to use calculus to obtain a correct conclusion. Not, literally but you hear what I am saying.

This thread is about the death Rate..............Mortality Rate they usually like to say.

I don't believe the rate is that high..............My reasons......the last article a good reason.....the Disease control people were saying that...........and the fact that only 1% of the population were tested from the other site...........

There is NO WAY they Really know how many have had it already...or even have it now......Only those tested are DATA..............so it's a best guess.

Death rate is only one metric. The analytics use multiple metrics. Granted, these metrics are not exact and will change as they receive more data, but the standard deviation of current estimates provides enough information to warrnt the actions being taken currently.

You start by saying more data is necessary and then you jump to actions being warranted by current data. You contradict yourself.

More data will refine the strategy. You make decisions on the data you have, then as you get more data you refine the strategy. The more data the better the strategy. More data may show the virus is not as bad as we think. Let's hope so. But it could show it is worse than we think, also.

 

[eagle1462010]

Bolton defends decision to shutter NSC pandemic office

Ok....while some quit........Bolton restructures the National Security Team.........some were moved to different offices doing the same job.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Yes but all of the preliminary numbers leave no doubt that if there is not serious mitigation we will have a disaster.
The mitigation is going to cause great short term damage to the economy and our daily lives but if we do not do it, the long term damage will be worse

Of COURSE......and we are trying to mitigate it...........but putting out high numbers only leads to HYSTERIA..................and runs on the grocery stores..........We already have that.............PANIC AND CHAOS fueled by the MEDIA isn't the answer..............and THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT WE HAVE.

The media is doing a tremendous job in stirring up panic among the General Population in regards to this bug. Their hope, their dream , is to create Economic Collapse in America so that they can blame it on Trump and Sleepy Joe will be the new FDR to lead the country into a Raw Deal and a new World War.

But if people would step back and sober up, they'd realize that even a majority of the very old- and almost all of the youths - would be able to survive this virus no problem.

Just think we might have really prevented this if we weren't 100% focused on a fake impeachment. Sad how many Schiff killed.

Do you think firing the entire pandemic team in 2018 helped. The past is the past. Everyone must focus on what can be done going forward.
I have heard a lot of ridiculous blaming for this crisis but yours is the most ridiculous.

If the previous employees were worth a shit, they would have never been fired.

So it didn't hurt getting rid of the dead wood.

How in the hell do you know their competency. if you have incompetent employees you replace them after you fire them, duh.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Bolton defends decision to shutter NSC pandemic office

Ok....while some quit........Bolton restructures the National Security Team.........some were moved to different offices doing the same job.

Trump says Bolton is incompetent. What does he know. Why listen to him?

 

[Polishprince]

Bolton defends decision to shutter NSC pandemic office

Ok....while some quit........Bolton restructures the National Security Team.........some were moved to different offices doing the same job.

Trump says Bolton is incompetent. What does he know. Why listen to him?

Libs say that Bolton is an incompetent warmonger as well. Or at least they did for many years until he stabbed Trump in the back.

I remember when the libs refused to confirm Bolton back in the day when Dubya appointed him to some job.

 

[eagle1462010]

Bolton defends decision to shutter NSC pandemic office

Ok....while some quit........Bolton restructures the National Security Team.........some were moved to different offices doing the same job.

Trump says Bolton is incompetent. What does he know. Why listen to him?

Bolton is gone because he wanted to go back to War............He is a War monger...........On this.......they restructured..........And The National Security Agency did it.......aka Bolton.......Trump had to agree to it............but the CDC.......is not the NSA..............They still had the people to do the job.......just some management changed...........

It was at the manufacturing level of the CDC that screwed up this time..........not the management......They manufactured the test kits WRONG.......cost us weeks of production of test kits........The NSA guys don't know how to do that..............that is the LAB WORKERS............so I don't see how it matters.

 

[Polishprince]

Of COURSE......and we are trying to mitigate it...........but putting out high numbers only leads to HYSTERIA..................and runs on the grocery stores..........We already have that.............PANIC AND CHAOS fueled by the MEDIA isn't the answer..............and THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT WE HAVE.

The media is doing a tremendous job in stirring up panic among the General Population in regards to this bug. Their hope, their dream , is to create Economic Collapse in America so that they can blame it on Trump and Sleepy Joe will be the new FDR to lead the country into a Raw Deal and a new World War.

But if people would step back and sober up, they'd realize that even a majority of the very old- and almost all of the youths - would be able to survive this virus no problem.

Just think we might have really prevented this if we weren't 100% focused on a fake impeachment. Sad how many Schiff killed.

Do you think firing the entire pandemic team in 2018 helped. The past is the past. Everyone must focus on what can be done going forward.
I have heard a lot of ridiculous blaming for this crisis but yours is the most ridiculous.

If the previous employees were worth a shit, they would have never been fired.

So it didn't hurt getting rid of the dead wood.

How in the hell do you know their competency. if you have incompetent employees you replace them after you fire them, duh.

President Trump's job, at least part of it, is to judge people's competency and to fire their asses when they can't measure up.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Why Is the Coronavirus Outbreak So Bad in Italy?

How did coronavirus start spreading in Italy?
Officially it began in Feb. 20, when a 38-year-old man checked himself into a local hospital in the town of Codogno in Lombardy. He tested positive with the virus, becoming the first recorded patient with the COVID-19 virus in Italy.

Yet some health officials believe that the virus arrived in Italy long before the first case was discovered. “The virus had probably been circulating for quite some time,” Flavia Riccardo, a researcher in the Department of Infectious Diseases at the Italian National Institute of Health tells TIME. “This happened right when we were having our peak of influenza and people were presenting with influenza symptoms.”

Before the first case was reported, there was an unusually high number of pneumonia cases recorded at a hospital in Codogno in northern Italy, the head of the emergency ward Stefano Paglia told the newspaper La Repubblica, suggesting it is possible patients with the virus were treated as if they had a seasonal flu. Health facilities hosting these patients could have become sites for infection, helping proliferate the spread of the virus.

The northern regions of Lombardy, Veneto and Emilia-Romagna, have been most affected by the outbreak. 85% of infected patients are in the region which is home to 92% of deaths so far. But the virus has been confirmed in all 20 regions of the country.



Italy itself SAYS WHAT I'M SAYING.............They say they think many got treated for the Flu.....and may have actually had the Coronavirus........

Proving what I'm saying here..........HOW MANY HAD IT..........HAVE IT.........AND AREN'T RECORDED.

Most cases of the flu are also not recorded, but yeah, I agree with what you're saying.

You need to educate yourself. Your simple analysis results in an incorrect conclusion. You need to consider all metrics in epidemic analytics. You are only looking at total deaths. You need to factor the number of individuals in the population that are susceptible to the disease, how contagious and how deadly the virus is.
You are trying to do an analysis using addition and subtraction only. You need to use calculus to obtain a correct conclusion. Not, literally but you hear what I am saying.

This thread is about the death Rate..............Mortality Rate they usually like to say.

I don't believe the rate is that high..............My reasons......the last article a good reason.....the Disease control people were saying that...........and the fact that only 1% of the population were tested from the other site...........

There is NO WAY they Really know how many have had it already...or even have it now......Only those tested are DATA..............so it's a best guess.

Death rate is only one metric. The analytics use multiple metrics. Granted, these metrics are not exact and will change as they receive more data, but the standard deviation of current estimates provides enough information to warrnt the actions being taken currently.

That's certainly your opinion. But personally, I see a lot of unwarranted panic out there and a lot of blaming of the President for this pestilence.

If you look back at the news reports back in 1349 when the Black Death became popular, people weren't nearly as frantic, not nearly as political, as they are today. Even though the CV doesn't look like to me to even be reaching the previous levels.

This is not 1349.
Read the data. It is not n opinion.
This is close to the analysis I summarize but it provides the same conclusions.
Using Kalman Filter to Predict Corona Virus Spread

 

[eagle1462010]

Most cases of the flu are also not recorded, but yeah, I agree with what you're saying.

You need to educate yourself. Your simple analysis results in an incorrect conclusion. You need to consider all metrics in epidemic analytics. You are only looking at total deaths. You need to factor the number of individuals in the population that are susceptible to the disease, how contagious and how deadly the virus is.
You are trying to do an analysis using addition and subtraction only. You need to use calculus to obtain a correct conclusion. Not, literally but you hear what I am saying.

This thread is about the death Rate..............Mortality Rate they usually like to say.

I don't believe the rate is that high..............My reasons......the last article a good reason.....the Disease control people were saying that...........and the fact that only 1% of the population were tested from the other site...........

There is NO WAY they Really know how many have had it already...or even have it now......Only those tested are DATA..............so it's a best guess.

Death rate is only one metric. The analytics use multiple metrics. Granted, these metrics are not exact and will change as they receive more data, but the standard deviation of current estimates provides enough information to warrnt the actions being taken currently.

That's certainly your opinion. But personally, I see a lot of unwarranted panic out there and a lot of blaming of the President for this pestilence.

If you look back at the news reports back in 1349 when the Black Death became popular, people weren't nearly as frantic, not nearly as political, as they are today. Even though the CV doesn't look like to me to even be reaching the previous levels.

This is not 1349.
Read the data. It is not n opinion.
This is close to the analysis I summarize but it provides the same conclusions.
Using Kalman Filter to Predict Corona Virus Spread

And yet I showed 2 other testing means that got different results..................SPLAIN THAT.

That is only one method........THEORY.........They didn't match the WHO...........or THE CDC for that matter.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You are the moron. See what has been done in China, South Korea and Italy. And what is being done throughout europe.
Stupidity is more lethal than the coronavirus.

Baloney.................You want people to go look at something YELL FIRE................

That is what the Media is doing.

FIRE.........FIRE.......FIRE........

It's BS..........I've been on many threads .....and this one on South Korea........
South Korea Leads the world in Corona virus testing
And they have a LOW MORTALITY RATE.........with MORE TESTING than most other countries..........They have test kits to 1 million tests available a week............and that is how they handled this........

NOT THE SKY IS FALLING THING we have now.

If there is a fire you yell fire