It's Nov 4, 2020 - Dems have taken the White House - Now what?

[XponentialChaos]

I'm sure you think that, but you're wrong. And I would dance.

Ok. Fair enough. I've been wrong before. Once.

What do you know that others don't ?

WHY.....would you dance? Do you even know?

I would dance because we would have a responsible adult in the white house.

 

[Siete]

wear out the Executive Order pen and pencil set - dump Trump's bullshit policy time.

 

[debbiedowner]

I know most on the Right believe it's a forgone conclusion that Trump will win re-election. But that might be because they still have faith in the election system and honest elections. I think we need to have this discussion now because sooner or later, even if Trump wins, in 2020 it's still likely the far Left will have a good chance to regain power eventually regardless..

A few wild cards.....

* How many illegals will be voting ?

* Assuming Trump doesn't win the Popular vote by a few hundred thousand votes...numerous left wing states are passing bills that "allow" (note that it isn't mandatory, just allowed, hence a choice after the actual election results come in) whether or not to give the states electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote.
In other words, a win, by ANY means necessary.

* Will there be election fraud in California, New York and Colorado?

* The economy. If the economy is strong his re-election is more likely. Otherwise a bad economy could sway the results.

So, let's say it is Nov 4, 2020 and the left has won back the White House. Is there any doubt what comes next?

Now what? a lot depends on the senate and House of course. But lets say in 2022 they also get the Senate.....one way or the other.

My thinking is that their first move would be to do everything they can to limit your ability to buy guns and bullets one way or the other. Guns and ammo sales will climb significantly if the Left gets the WH. Perhaps sky high taxes on both? New laws to make ownership difficult or expensive?
New laws to "legally" go after every citizen they can such as deeming you a "risk" for simple things like traffic offenses? A terrorist if you've ever said certain things on forums?
We know all too well their position on the 2nd.

Next they will work swiftly to undo the things Trump set in place to benefit America. They will definitely raise taxes and re-implement the personal mandate for the ACA.

If they can "win" elections going forward the same way, it may be the last non far Left President and even Congress for a long time. Certainly long enough to move us into socialism and irreparably weaken the military.

Of course, it's a what if....and hopefully we won't get an anti-American president in 2020. But it's probably not a forgone conclusion to say it's not possible. Trump can only run twice after all...and 2024 is not all that far away.

What do you think will happen if and when the Left regains control over the WH and both houses of Congress?

If a dem takes the WH in 2020 they will be a one term President because they will receive the blame for the recession and all other bullshit the present occupant as thrust upon us. It's no win situation they should just past next election up.

 

[Siete]

I know most on the Right believe it's a forgone conclusion that Trump will win re-election. But that might be because they still have faith in the election system and honest elections. I think we need to have this discussion now because sooner or later, even if Trump wins, in 2020 it's still likely the far Left will have a good chance to regain power eventually regardless..

A few wild cards.....

* How many illegals will be voting ?

* Assuming Trump doesn't win the Popular vote by a few hundred thousand votes...numerous left wing states are passing bills that "allow" (note that it isn't mandatory, just allowed, hence a choice after the actual election results come in) whether or not to give the states electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote.
In other words, a win, by ANY means necessary.

* Will there be election fraud in California, New York and Colorado?

* The economy. If the economy is strong his re-election is more likely. Otherwise a bad economy could sway the results.

So, let's say it is Nov 4, 2020 and the left has won back the White House. Is there any doubt what comes next?

Now what? a lot depends on the senate and House of course. But lets say in 2022 they also get the Senate.....one way or the other.

My thinking is that their first move would be to do everything they can to limit your ability to buy guns and bullets one way or the other. Guns and ammo sales will climb significantly if the Left gets the WH. Perhaps sky high taxes on both? New laws to make ownership difficult or expensive?
New laws to "legally" go after every citizen they can such as deeming you a "risk" for simple things like traffic offenses? A terrorist if you've ever said certain things on forums?
We know all too well their position on the 2nd.

Next they will work swiftly to undo the things Trump set in place to benefit America. They will definitely raise taxes and re-implement the personal mandate for the ACA.

If they can "win" elections going forward the same way, it may be the last non far Left President and even Congress for a long time. Certainly long enough to move us into socialism and irreparably weaken the military.

Of course, it's a what if....and hopefully we won't get an anti-American president in 2020. But it's probably not a forgone conclusion to say it's not possible. Trump can only run twice after all...and 2024 is not all that far away.

What do you think will happen if and when the Left regains control over the WH and both houses of Congress?

If a dem takes the WH in 2020 they will be a one term President because they will receive the blame for the recession and all other bullshit the present occupant as thrust upon us. It's no win situation they should just past next election up.

the next dem potus could find a goose that lays golden eggs under his pillow, annd the RW retards would blame him because it was a goose.

F'em

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

I would dance because we would have a responsible adult in the white house.

ok. Fair enough.
Can you name at least ONE whom you would consider a "responsible adult" ?

Just one.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

wear out the Executive Order pen and pencil set - dump Trump's bullshit policy time.

Is that what Trump should be doing now and for the next 5 years or so to Obama's policies?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

If a dem takes the WH in 2020 they will be a one term President because they will receive the blame for the recession and all other bullshit the present occupant as thrust upon us. It's no win situation they should just past next election up.

in all honesty, I hear the economy is doing MUCH better now than it was under Obama, and there are stories out there explaining that Obama had wrecked the economy.

In terms of China, trump seems to be making headway where every other President in modern history has failed. I'm not even a big Trump fan truth told.

I don't care WHO is President, as long as they do what's best for my country.
And sadly, that would carte blanc rule out every Democrat candidate.

 

[XponentialChaos]

I would dance because we would have a responsible adult in the white house.

ok. Fair enough.
Can you name at least ONE whom you would consider a "responsible adult" ?

Just one.

Every single Republican candidate in 2016 other than Mike Huckabee and Donald Trump.

Every single Democrat candidate for 2020 other than Marianne Williamson.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

America is dead. Learn to live by picking off the bones.

 

[debbiedowner]

If a dem takes the WH in 2020 they will be a one term President because they will receive the blame for the recession and all other bullshit the present occupant as thrust upon us. It's no win situation they should just past next election up.

in all honesty, I hear the economy is doing MUCH better now than it was under Obama, and there are stories out there explaining that Obama had wrecked the economy.

In terms of China, trump seems to be making headway where every other President in modern history has failed. I'm not even a big Trump fan truth told.

I don't care WHO is President, as long as they do what's best for my country.
And sadly, that would carte blanc rule out every Democrat candidate.

Did I say now?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

America is dead. Learn to live by picking off the bones.

Yes...I think you see things more clearly than most.

 

[Siete]

wear out the Executive Order pen and pencil set - dump Trump's bullshit policy time.

Is that what Trump should be doing now and for the next 5 years or so to Obama's policies?

exactly what the f'n derelict is doing -

pretend you can read ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...ling-back-obama-rules/?utm_term=.dbfb06c5e28b

 

[debbiedowner]

If a dem takes the WH in 2020 they will be a one term President because they will receive the blame for the recession and all other bullshit the present occupant as thrust upon us. It's no win situation they should just past next election up.

in all honesty, I hear the economy is doing MUCH better now than it was under Obama, and there are stories out there explaining that Obama had wrecked the economy.

In terms of China, trump seems to be making headway where every other President in modern history has failed. I'm not even a big Trump fan truth told.

I don't care WHO is President, as long as they do what's best for my country.
And sadly, that would carte blanc rule out every Democrat candidate.

In all honesty didn't trump promise (like others) to reduce the deficit instead of increasing it?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Every single Republican candidate in 2016 other than Mike Huckabee and Donald Trump.
Every single Democrat candidate for 2020 other than Marianne Williamson.

So Trump is nearly the ONLY person not qualified to be President out of all those other candidates?

I'm being serious.....can you not find a few things Mr. Trump is doing right? That is good for the nation? Nothing?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

In all honesty didn't trump promise (like others) to reduce the deficit instead of increasing it?

I believe you're correct.
Another of the reasons I've never been a big Trump fan even though I think he's on the right track in many of the things he's doing. especially with China.

A lot of the expenditures, I believe, were military.
I do think there's a lot more money going into the MIC than is necessary.
I think too many favors are being done.
It's costs us 13 BILLION to build an aircraft carrier.....the Chinese about 1/10th that.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

I know most on the Right believe it's a forgone conclusion that Trump will win re-election. But that might be because they still have faith in the election system and honest elections. I think we need to have this discussion now because sooner or later, even if Trump wins, in 2020 it's still likely the far Left will have a good chance to regain power eventually regardless..

A few wild cards.....

* How many illegals will be voting ?

* Assuming Trump doesn't win the Popular vote by a few hundred thousand votes...numerous left wing states are passing bills that "allow" (note that it isn't mandatory, just allowed, hence a choice after the actual election results come in) whether or not to give the states electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote.
In other words, a win, by ANY means necessary.

* Will there be election fraud in California, New York and Colorado?

* The economy. If the economy is strong his re-election is more likely. Otherwise a bad economy could sway the results.

So, let's say it is Nov 4, 2020 and the left has won back the White House. Is there any doubt what comes next?

Now what? a lot depends on the senate and House of course. But lets say in 2022 they also get the Senate.....one way or the other.

My thinking is that their first move would be to do everything they can to limit your ability to buy guns and bullets one way or the other. Guns and ammo sales will climb significantly if the Left gets the WH. Perhaps sky high taxes on both? New laws to make ownership difficult or expensive?
New laws to "legally" go after every citizen they can such as deeming you a "risk" for simple things like traffic offenses? A terrorist if you've ever said certain things on forums?
We know all too well their position on the 2nd.

Next they will work swiftly to undo the things Trump set in place to benefit America. They will definitely raise taxes and re-implement the personal mandate for the ACA.

If they can "win" elections going forward the same way, it may be the last non far Left President and even Congress for a long time. Certainly long enough to move us into socialism and irreparably weaken the military.

Of course, it's a what if....and hopefully we won't get an anti-American president in 2020. But it's probably not a forgone conclusion to say it's not possible. Trump can only run twice after all...and 2024 is not all that far away.

What do you think will happen if and when the Left regains control over the WH and both houses of Congress?

If they win like they did in 2008 they will forget their promises until they lose power again...

 

[XponentialChaos]

Every single Republican candidate in 2016 other than Mike Huckabee and Donald Trump.
Every single Democrat candidate for 2020 other than Marianne Williamson.

So Trump is nearly the ONLY person not qualified to be President out of all those other candidates?

I'm being serious.....can you not find a few things Mr. Trump is doing right? That is good for the nation? Nothing?

Oh there are plenty others who are not qualified to be president. You specifically asked which people I would consider responsible adults.

I give Trump credit for not immediately going to war with Iran after the drone incident. That's about all I can think of at the moment.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

exactly what the f'n derelict is doing -
pretend you can read ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...ling-back-obama-rules/?utm_term=.dbfb06c5e28b

Ok, I'll pretend......

Basically, Mr. Obama was a Community Organizer....while Trump was an International Businessman.
Just on face value, Mr. Trump should be far more qualified than Mr. Obama could ever have hoped to be.

Let me qualify that by saying I AM NOT a big Trump fan...and I had the highest hopes that Mr. Obama would have been a great President. But the fact is, he was not.
He is probably a good person. But was not a good US president. That said, his daughters are adorable imo. But he is not (imo) a pillar of strength.

A President runs the country....and a President runs a corporation. They are businesses.
Running the USA is VERY much like running a HUGE business.

What surprises me is how well the Orange One deals with the Chinese etc. He has a strength that America badly needed.....damn his greasy headed back woods appearance and propensity to like women (not to mention those two horrible sons, Beavis and Butthead) !!!

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

I see Bruce disagreed

 

[Bush92]

I know most on the Right believe it's a forgone conclusion that Trump will win re-election. But that might be because they still have faith in the election system and honest elections. I think we need to have this discussion now because sooner or later, even if Trump wins, in 2020 it's still likely the far Left will have a good chance to regain power eventually regardless..

A few wild cards.....

* How many illegals will be voting ?

* Assuming Trump doesn't win the Popular vote by a few hundred thousand votes...numerous left wing states are passing bills that "allow" (note that it isn't mandatory, just allowed, hence a choice after the actual election results come in) whether or not to give the states electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote.
In other words, a win, by ANY means necessary.

* Will there be election fraud in California, New York and Colorado?

* The economy. If the economy is strong his re-election is more likely. Otherwise a bad economy could sway the results.

So, let's say it is Nov 4, 2020 and the left has won back the White House. Is there any doubt what comes next?

Now what? a lot depends on the senate and House of course. But lets say in 2022 they also get the Senate.....one way or the other.

My thinking is that their first move would be to do everything they can to limit your ability to buy guns and bullets one way or the other. Guns and ammo sales will climb significantly if the Left gets the WH. Perhaps sky high taxes on both? New laws to make ownership difficult or expensive?
New laws to "legally" go after every citizen they can such as deeming you a "risk" for simple things like traffic offenses? A terrorist if you've ever said certain things on forums?
We know all too well their position on the 2nd.

Next they will work swiftly to undo the things Trump set in place to benefit America. They will definitely raise taxes and re-implement the personal mandate for the ACA.

If they can "win" elections going forward the same way, it may be the last non far Left President and even Congress for a long time. Certainly long enough to move us into socialism and irreparably weaken the military.

Of course, it's a what if....and hopefully we won't get an anti-American president in 2020. But it's probably not a forgone conclusion to say it's not possible. Trump can only run twice after all...and 2024 is not all that far away.

What do you think will happen if and when the Left regains control over the WH and both houses of Congress?

I would prefer not to speculate in this venue, but examining the possibility through the lens of human nature and three decades of increasing tensions, it will be bad.

Very bad.

Bloodshed.