It's Time To Hate White People Month Again

[JBeukema]

 

[Grace]

Oh, I love Samuel Jackson. But I think I love Morgan Freeman better. Great actors. And in that movie, he rocked!

 

[Ravi]

If Maddie thinks White people get preferential treatment 'round these parts, she's never been to the southern half of any border state in the last two decades.

There might could be pockets of this nation where being white is not an advantage, JB....but people there who want to can move, live in great comfort and regain that position. In 99% of this nation, when pulled over by the cops at 2 am, it behooves the teenager in a POS car wearing casual clothes to be white.

Shall I enumerate all the thousands of other times in life whiteness is an advantage, or can we just agree to concede the obvious?

Actually, the benefit of skin color is more apparent in court. All might be arrested but it is usually the white kids that get a slap on the hand or no punishment at all.

 

[Madeline]

In 99% of this nation, when pulled over by the cops at 2 am, it behooves the teenager in a POS car wearing casual clothes to be white.

Do you have anything other than your own bullshit to back this?

It pays for the teenager to be sober and not a jackass with an attitude- regardless of his race.

Shall I enumerate all the other times being black got someone a job or acceptance into college or a scholarship, or shall we agree to concede the obvious?

You might want to try seeing the world as it is, and not merely how everything that happens affects your lily white ass.

 

[Madeline]

Unfortunately, it's more than just "pockets" around this country. Try living in california and not knowing spanish. I have worked my entire life, paid my taxes, and never, ever asked for a handout from the government when times were tough and trust me..times were tough. I washed dishes not for pay...but for leftover scraps on plates. Not having a roof over our heads sometimes, either. I had a son to take care of, so I did my best. But you don't have to understand a FOREIGN LANGUAGE to scrape food off a dish.
Things got better, yes. But now that things are bad again? I can't find a job. My sister can't get a job. Why? We don't speak spanish. It is like that ALL OVER California.

The latest hoopla about the guy that was killed by a fighting rooster? I grew up in that town. It is nothing BUT spanish. And by golly, you better live in the right neighborhood that hasn't "gone bad" with gangbangers and you better know spanish otherwise you have to leave your home and start all over again at 55 years old. Ask my sister. Ask me. We both know.

IMEURU, if you can bring yourself to scrap plates, why can't you learn to speak Spanish? Who gives a shit if you "shouldn't have to"? If being bi-lingual would make you more marketable in this shithole of an economy, why aren't you working on it?

 

[30x90]

I've see so many red herring in this thread, that I don't know whether we're trying to have a debate, or stock an aquarium. From reading this, one would think that the attitude of too many people here includes the following assumptions:

Black America is a monolith. "They" all think alike, act alike, have the same political views, and the same aspirations. Most of "them" live in the 'hood, are criminals, (or at least support crime), hate "Whitey", collect welfare, and want to raise illegitimate kids in single parent homes.

Black America has no real history outside of slavery and the Civil Rights Movement. Outside of sports and some of the arts, they have contributed little of note to America except trouble. All of "Them" see slavery primarily as a useful tool to beat White people about the head with, in the hope of gaining some advantage. Besides, if slavery really was a big deal to them, they'd be just as upset at the slavery going on in Africa today. Black History Month is simply a fraud, an excuse to bash White people.

Race relations in America today are the worst ever. Obviously, this is all "Their" fault for demanding special privileges (like a chance for upward mobility, a chance to be part of the economic mainstream). What more do "They" want; hell, after all, they can vote, hold office, and we let them in our schools; why, we even let them into college these days? "They" should be happy and content, and stay in their place. They should shut up, quit complaining, and go back to their three minimum wage jobs and their food stamps, and be grateful we don't make them pick cotton anymore. Did I mention Black History Month is just a pretense for bashing White people?

That's a partial listing of the kind of stereotypical sentiments I've see some of you post here, and after recounting it, I feel like I've been crawling around in a cesspool. I wonder if some of you who posted this nonsense, actually know any Black people, because those comments sure don't fit the Black people I know! I cannot believe I'm reading this in America in the twenty-first century. Holy shades of 1968; Jim Crow may have died in public forty-odd years ago, but his spirit lives on; Ross Barnett and Bull Connor are grinning in their graves! Lulabelle, fetch my robe and hood from the attic, and run them through the wash, bigotry is back in style! Of course, we won't say we hate "Them"; why, we "love them" (as long as we don't have to pay any attention to them)!

That's the damnedest collection of lies, half-truths, innuendo, excuses and fallacies I've seen in a while. It's as bad as any politically correct, phony liberal intolerance masquerading as "tolerance", and just as dripping with self-serving hypocrisy. I go to another thread, and what do you think I see? A (very) thinly-veiled suggestion that we need an Aryan Homeland (i suppose you'd like that with barbed wire to keep the "undesirables" out, and some more to warehouse them in "camps", until you decide whether it's going to be the "showers" again, or whether you prefer another method, this time.

Why? In the name of God, why? Are you that afraid that having to look at the reality of historical wrongs might prick your conscience enough to force you to actually give a damn, and admit to yourself that everything now is not totally right, fair, and perfect? Are you afraid, that if you acknowledge "they " have accomplished something of worth, you might have to look at "them" as individual human beings, complete with feelings, hopes, and dreams, instead of a faceless, nameless, soulless mass of dubious humanity? What would that cost you, besides a little empathy, a little decency, a little caring?

Does that shock you? Does it make you feel angry, or maybe just a tiny bit embarrassed? I don't care, as long as it makes you think about the attitudes you have, and the things you say. Those of you I'm talking to know who you are, so take it where it applies.

I've lived around negroes my entire life. The city I live in is predominantly black.
None of what I said is speculation, hypothetic or theoretical.
The facts are out there. They commit more crime per capita, more on welfare per capita and commit a highly disproportionate amount of crimes against white people.

Bro, these are all facts..everyone knows they are true.

Blacks do not feel like they belong in America which is why they have no respect for it or its institutions. That lack of respect reduces their affiliation with institutions which would help reduce illiteracy, but more importantly, change their values.

It seems the only thing they (the statistical average black) value is "black culture".
They don't have roots which respect any kind of tradition.
...Or should i say they see tradition as a threat and thus all traditions, even rational ones like responsibility, honesty and respect, are disregarded. They do not value America as it was or is, which is why they don't respect anyone.


They secretly pretend we can all get along but practically sing in the streets when a neophyte like Obama is elected or when OJ Simpson is allowed to murder a white without any consequences.
Thus they praise ignorance and injustice so long as it has their name on it. Intelligence or respect for others doesn't matter so much as their own name and cause.

The white man has oppressed himself trying to get everyone up to our level to contribute meaningfully to society so we can live in peace and enjoy the greatness we created. In spite of our sacrifices we are still hated.

If anti-racist ideologues really and truly believe in racial equality, then they'd call for the abolition all race-based policies, since according to anti-racist ideologues, race either doesn't exist or shouldn't matter.

Thanks for illustrating my point. Here it is again - "They, this" "them that", "the statistically average black" (whatever that is), "everybody knows" - knows what, exactly? No, you didn't say you meant "ALL Black people" or even "most Black people"; you just left it out there by implication; and that's the problem; one subset, even a minority, of a "Them" does something undesirable, so "they" all must be like that, right? I mean, "everybody knows that".

Here's your reality check; most Black Americans are NOT thugs, or criminals. most Black Americans work for a living, and most Black Americans don't "hate America" or "hate White people. This entire state I live in is 28% Black, and if a majority of them behaved like the people you describe, I'm quite sure I would have noticed. Have I had occasional bad experiences with Black people I've encountered? Yes (I could say the same thing about some White people I've encountered). Has that been typical of my experience with most people , Black or White? Absolutely not! I've known Backs and Whites who were everything from professionals and highly-paid executives to the working poor, and everything between; few of either race were criminals, drug abusers, welfare cheats, or freeloaders. Most Black men I know are married to or dating Black women. This is why I get so tired of the stereotypes; while they may fit a subset of a population, it's completely unfair to attribute the same characteristics to everyone else of the same race.

You know, if you go looking for the very worst in people you meet, you'll probably find it; that still doesn't mean that everyone who looks like them has the same attitudes, or engages in the same behavior. Some White people here are Bigots (that's pretty obvious). Does that mean all or even most of us are? I sure hope not!

"they" "them" "this" "that"..etc..is all a reference to the topic..Remember the TOPIC? "Black History Month"...So since I'm white what words would you prefer me to use when describing this other race we're talking about?
negroafricanamericancoloredblack...ok..how's that? You're trying to put a negative spin on something that's benign.

You're nit picking.
No one said ALL negroes are ANYTHING..again, you're purposely looking for things to distract and avoid the topic...

Do negroes commit more crime PER CAPITA than whites. Yes or No?

Are there more unwed negro mothers PER CAPITA than white. Yes or No?

Are there more negroes on welfare PER CAPITA than white people. Yes or No?

Are there more negroes that don't finish high school PER CAPITA than white. Yes or No?

Are there more black on white crimes than the opposite. Yes or No?

Do negroes rape more white women or do white men rape more negro women?

Is negro IQ lower ON AVERAGE than white (or Asian) people. Yes or No?

Do you (really) think you could walk through a negro housing project in L.A. or Detroit, or New Orleans, or Washington D.C., or Memphis safely? Why or why not?
Give it a try some evening. Take a stroll through the projects with your wife and kids and let us know how it goes.. THEN come back here and call me names.... if you survive...

People who don't live in the south or who don't live in or near a majority black city may not see the resentment that exists..I can understand that.Inexperience and youthful idealism...
I assure you it is real.."they" resent white people. "They" may not admit it, of course. "They" are raised in the same environment you are..they see the same propaganda about how evil the white man is and they have the so called "common bond" that their ancestors were slaves..the white man is responsible and "I'm gunna gets minez from the cracker".

I don't hate negroes at all. They have the same right to live as anyone. The point is "they" have different "cultures" and "values" that often conflict with civilized people. They relish in playing the "thug" and their "gangster rap" is so vile and full of hate that decent people wouldn't want anyone like that near them...
White people have a culture and a history that we are proud of, too.

It's a known fact, that Whites and Asians alike have built mighty civilizations that have changed the face of the world throughout history.
Great composers, artists, explorers, scientists..etc...we don't want to be forced to live with people who hate our guts and prey on our people and the past 60 years of "civil rights" has been a failure. The negroes are more violent, less educated and hate white people more now than ever before.
The white man has oppressed himself trying to get everyone up to our level to contribute meaningfully to society so we can live in peace and enjoy the greatness we created. In spite of our sacrifices we are still hated.


My point here was: equality is a lie. I want liberty, the liberty to separate from negroes and others and not be hunted and murdered for it like so many tens of thousands of white people have since emancipation.

I am proud of my Anglo-Saxon heritage and wish to see it preserved in future generations.

I dont want to kill anybody, or impose on the freedom of others to miscegenate if they are inclined to do so.

But I want the same freedom to say no for myself, I want the same liberty to form a community of like minded people (just like the jews, puerto ricans, chinese and negroes have all done) and say we will not be "caramel colored utopians", we are happy pursuing the culture of OUR ancestors and we want the right to keep it.


At the conclusion of the civil war, all blacks should have been returned to Africa. No form of foreign aid should have ever been provided. The stream of handouts created social vermin, parasites, and removed from the black the desire to improve, to build civilization.

No other people in human history have received as much aid as blacks. And, with all the trillions of dollars from dozens of nations, they are still no better than when Egypt Invaded Nubia. Why build when you beg?

 

[Article 15]

If Maddie thinks White people get preferential treatment 'round these parts, she's never been to the southern half of any border state in the last two decades.

There might could be pockets of this nation where being white is not an advantage, JB....but people there who want to can move, live in great comfort and regain that position. In 99% of this nation, when pulled over by the cops at 2 am, it behooves the teenager in a POS car wearing casual clothes to be white.

Shall I enumerate all the thousands of other times in life whiteness is an advantage, or can we just agree to concede the obvious?

Actually, the benefit of skin color is more apparent in court. All might be arrested but it is usually the white kids that get a slap on the hand or no punishment at all.

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[Madeline]

 

[maatsmom843]

why is it that in here when legitimate questions and counterpoints are raised, they are rarely addressed, and the entire debate turns into the basest kind of insults and degredation???

*smh*

 

[Madeline]

why is it that in here when legitimate questions and counterpoints are raised, they are rarely addressed, and the entire debate turns into the basest kind of insults and degredation???

*smh*

Happens quite a bit here, maatsmom. It's that human foible, anger.

 

[Tank]

Liberals have not done a good job raising their blacks

 

[The Gadfly]

I've lived around negroes my entire life. The city I live in is predominantly black.
None of what I said is speculation, hypothetic or theoretical.
The facts are out there. They commit more crime per capita, more on welfare per capita and commit a highly disproportionate amount of crimes against white people.

Bro, these are all facts..everyone knows they are true.

Blacks do not feel like they belong in America which is why they have no respect for it or its institutions. That lack of respect reduces their affiliation with institutions which would help reduce illiteracy, but more importantly, change their values.

It seems the only thing they (the statistical average black) value is "black culture".
They don't have roots which respect any kind of tradition.
...Or should i say they see tradition as a threat and thus all traditions, even rational ones like responsibility, honesty and respect, are disregarded. They do not value America as it was or is, which is why they don't respect anyone.


They secretly pretend we can all get along but practically sing in the streets when a neophyte like Obama is elected or when OJ Simpson is allowed to murder a white without any consequences.
Thus they praise ignorance and injustice so long as it has their name on it. Intelligence or respect for others doesn't matter so much as their own name and cause.

The white man has oppressed himself trying to get everyone up to our level to contribute meaningfully to society so we can live in peace and enjoy the greatness we created. In spite of our sacrifices we are still hated.

If anti-racist ideologues really and truly believe in racial equality, then they'd call for the abolition all race-based policies, since according to anti-racist ideologues, race either doesn't exist or shouldn't matter.

Thanks for illustrating my point. Here it is again - "They, this" "them that", "the statistically average black" (whatever that is), "everybody knows" - knows what, exactly? No, you didn't say you meant "ALL Black people" or even "most Black people"; you just left it out there by implication; and that's the problem; one subset, even a minority, of a "Them" does something undesirable, so "they" all must be like that, right? I mean, "everybody knows that".

Here's your reality check; most Black Americans are NOT thugs, or criminals. most Black Americans work for a living, and most Black Americans don't "hate America" or "hate White people. This entire state I live in is 28% Black, and if a majority of them behaved like the people you describe, I'm quite sure I would have noticed. Have I had occasional bad experiences with Black people I've encountered? Yes (I could say the same thing about some White people I've encountered). Has that been typical of my experience with most people , Black or White? Absolutely not! I've known Backs and Whites who were everything from professionals and highly-paid executives to the working poor, and everything between; few of either race were criminals, drug abusers, welfare cheats, or freeloaders. Most Black men I know are married to or dating Black women. This is why I get so tired of the stereotypes; while they may fit a subset of a population, it's completely unfair to attribute the same characteristics to everyone else of the same race.

You know, if you go looking for the very worst in people you meet, you'll probably find it; that still doesn't mean that everyone who looks like them has the same attitudes, or engages in the same behavior. Some White people here are Bigots (that's pretty obvious). Does that mean all or even most of us are? I sure hope not!

"they" "them" "this" "that"..etc..is all a reference to the topic..Remember the TOPIC? "Black History Month"...So since I'm white what words would you prefer me to use when describing this other race we're talking about?
negroafricanamericancoloredblack...ok..how's that? You're trying to put a negative spin on something that's benign.

You're nit picking.
No one said ALL negroes are ANYTHING..again, you're purposely looking for things to distract and avoid the topic...

Do negroes commit more crime PER CAPITA than whites. Yes or No?

Are there more unwed negro mothers PER CAPITA than white. Yes or No?

Are there more negroes on welfare PER CAPITA than white people. Yes or No?

Are there more negroes that don't finish high school PER CAPITA than white. Yes or No?

Are there more black on white crimes than the opposite. Yes or No?

Do negroes rape more white women or do white men rape more negro women?

Is negro IQ lower ON AVERAGE than white (or Asian) people. Yes or No?

Do you (really) think you could walk through a negro housing project in L.A. or Detroit, or New Orleans, or Washington D.C., or Memphis safely? Why or why not?
Give it a try some evening. Take a stroll through the projects with your wife and kids and let us know how it goes.. THEN come back here and call me names.... if you survive...

People who don't live in the south or who don't live in or near a majority black city may not see the resentment that exists..I can understand that.Inexperience and youthful idealism...
I assure you it is real.."they" resent white people. "They" may not admit it, of course. "They" are raised in the same environment you are..they see the same propaganda about how evil the white man is and they have the so called "common bond" that their ancestors were slaves..the white man is responsible and "I'm gunna gets minez from the cracker".

I don't hate negroes at all. They have the same right to live as anyone. The point is "they" have different "cultures" and "values" that often conflict with civilized people. They relish in playing the "thug" and their "gangster rap" is so vile and full of hate that decent people wouldn't want anyone like that near them...
White people have a culture and a history that we are proud of, too.

It's a known fact, that Whites and Asians alike have built mighty civilizations that have changed the face of the world throughout history.
Great composers, artists, explorers, scientists..etc...we don't want to be forced to live with people who hate our guts and prey on our people and the past 60 years of "civil rights" has been a failure. The negroes are more violent, less educated and hate white people more now than ever before.
The white man has oppressed himself trying to get everyone up to our level to contribute meaningfully to society so we can live in peace and enjoy the greatness we created. In spite of our sacrifices we are still hated.


My point here was: equality is a lie. I want liberty, the liberty to separate from negroes and others and not be hunted and murdered for it like so many tens of thousands of white people have since emancipation.

I am proud of my Anglo-Saxon heritage and wish to see it preserved in future generations.

I dont want to kill anybody, or impose on the freedom of others to miscegenate if they are inclined to do so.

But I want the same freedom to say no for myself, I want the same liberty to form a community of like minded people (just like the jews, puerto ricans, chinese and negroes have all done) and say we will not be "caramel colored utopians", we are happy pursuing the culture of OUR ancestors and we want the right to keep it.


At the conclusion of the civil war, all blacks should have been returned to Africa. No form of foreign aid should have ever been provided. The stream of handouts created social vermin, parasites, and removed from the black the desire to improve, to build civilization.

No other people in human history have received as much aid as blacks. And, with all the trillions of dollars from dozens of nations, they are still no better than when Egypt Invaded Nubia. Why build when you beg?

Thee problem I have with your comments, is NOT that they aren't correct-as far as they go. Your statistics are accurate, and I have no reason to believe your personal experiences are not what you say they are. The problem is the people who are behind those statistics and experiences. They are not the whole of the Black population; as a matter of fact, the portion of the Black population that demonstrates the behavior(s) and cultural attitudes reflected in those statistics is a minority of the Black population as a whole. That minority tends to be concentrated among the urban poor. Poverty may not "cause" those behaviors and attitudes but it certain correlates with them, in a cycle of despair, hopelessness, want, and yes, rage.The young men who grow up in that environment have an excellent chance of falling into the cycle of violence, crime, and misogyny. Most of the women they rape and/or abuse are Black. Most of the people they rob are Black. Most of the people they kill are each other. I know, because I was an EMT/Paramedic in a major metropolitan area here in the South; guess who a lot of my "clientele" were.

The male role models these kids have are usually the neighborhood pimp, the neighborhood bookie, the neighborhood drug pusher, and the gang leaders-they're the ones with the bling, the cars, and the foxy women. The daily lesson they learn on the street,is "get tough, or die!". They get bombarded with the same advertising the rest of us do, but the only chance they see for them to have any of the nice things advertised is to steal them. A lot of the women and even girls they know and call "Ho" in fact are whores, selling their bodies to support everything from their kids to a drug habit. They go to school and quickly get the message that failure is the norm, and no more is expected of them.A lot of them have never met a White person who would even take the time to speak to them, much less care about them, and they haven't met too many people of any other color who will do that either. It's bleak, it's grim; it chews up their minds and souls, and will often knock the idealism out of anyone who tries to help. The successful Black people who used to have to live alongside their poorer counterparts are long since gone to the suburbs, leaving less a community, than a combat zone.

So why care? Well, ignoring them, excluding them, giving up on them, and throwing welfare and food stamp money (and damn little else) at the problem has only made it worse. We've lost two generations of kids to the streets,and we're losing another.They aren't all trash either; there are bright kids, who can be a positive part of society, if they get the chance, and there are mothers working three minimum wage jobs coming home dead tired, and helping their kids with schoolwork. There are people trying often at great risk, to take their streets back from the thugs. I've seen the bad things that happen; I've seen the good ones too:the friend who came out of the worst ghetto in Memphis, somehow got a scholarship, and ended up with two Phd.'s, and retired as an executive for a major national company; the kid we barely saved one night from a gunshot wound; now, he's a physician, saving lives himself.

You see, even among the ugliest face of Black America, there are positives; they just don't make the papers or the TV news as much as all the negatives; but that's only one side of the story. The millions of Black Americans who are out there every day, working, achieving, raising stable families. being a part of middle and upper-middle America, and not being one of the negative statistics are the face of Black America too, and believe it or not, they are the majority. All they need or want from you is acceptance, and the realization that there's no "criminal race", no "inferior race", no ""doomed-to-failure" race. Those people don't make the front page either, but they're there, just like the rest of us, coaching little league,volunteering in the community, sending their kids to college, doing all the things any of the rest of us do.

As for the other face of Black America, the one on the evening news, the only one you seem to want to see, if you raised a white or Latino kid in the same circumstances you'd get the same result; I've seen that, too, and I could pull up some more negative statistics and anecdotes to prove it...but I won't. I won't, not because I'm some bleeding-heart, PC liberal (far from it), but because I believe that trashing still more people won't help anyone. I'm no Pollyanna; I've been punched, spat on, and shot at trying to help, and cursed more often than thanked. I don't regret it, and I'd do it again; human lives (even those some think don't matter) are worth it. Maybe, just maybe, the experience of ugliness is less important than what we do with it-just a thought.

 

[sitarro]

Thanks for illustrating my point. Here it is again - "They, this" "them that", "the statistically average black" (whatever that is), "everybody knows" - knows what, exactly? No, you didn't say you meant "ALL Black people" or even "most Black people"; you just left it out there by implication; and that's the problem; one subset, even a minority, of a "Them" does something undesirable, so "they" all must be like that, right? I mean, "everybody knows that".

Here's your reality check; most Black Americans are NOT thugs, or criminals. most Black Americans work for a living, and most Black Americans don't "hate America" or "hate White people. This entire state I live in is 28% Black, and if a majority of them behaved like the people you describe, I'm quite sure I would have noticed. Have I had occasional bad experiences with Black people I've encountered? Yes (I could say the same thing about some White people I've encountered). Has that been typical of my experience with most people , Black or White? Absolutely not! I've known Backs and Whites who were everything from professionals and highly-paid executives to the working poor, and everything between; few of either race were criminals, drug abusers, welfare cheats, or freeloaders. Most Black men I know are married to or dating Black women. This is why I get so tired of the stereotypes; while they may fit a subset of a population, it's completely unfair to attribute the same characteristics to everyone else of the same race.

You know, if you go looking for the very worst in people you meet, you'll probably find it; that still doesn't mean that everyone who looks like them has the same attitudes, or engages in the same behavior. Some White people here are Bigots (that's pretty obvious). Does that mean all or even most of us are? I sure hope not!

"they" "them" "this" "that"..etc..is all a reference to the topic..Remember the TOPIC? "Black History Month"...So since I'm white what words would you prefer me to use when describing this other race we're talking about?
negroafricanamericancoloredblack...ok..how's that? You're trying to put a negative spin on something that's benign.

You're nit picking.
No one said ALL negroes are ANYTHING..again, you're purposely looking for things to distract and avoid the topic...

Do negroes commit more crime PER CAPITA than whites. Yes or No?

Are there more unwed negro mothers PER CAPITA than white. Yes or No?

Are there more negroes on welfare PER CAPITA than white people. Yes or No?

Are there more negroes that don't finish high school PER CAPITA than white. Yes or No?

Are there more black on white crimes than the opposite. Yes or No?

Do negroes rape more white women or do white men rape more negro women?

Is negro IQ lower ON AVERAGE than white (or Asian) people. Yes or No?

Do you (really) think you could walk through a negro housing project in L.A. or Detroit, or New Orleans, or Washington D.C., or Memphis safely? Why or why not?
Give it a try some evening. Take a stroll through the projects with your wife and kids and let us know how it goes.. THEN come back here and call me names.... if you survive...

People who don't live in the south or who don't live in or near a majority black city may not see the resentment that exists..I can understand that.Inexperience and youthful idealism...
I assure you it is real.."they" resent white people. "They" may not admit it, of course. "They" are raised in the same environment you are..they see the same propaganda about how evil the white man is and they have the so called "common bond" that their ancestors were slaves..the white man is responsible and "I'm gunna gets minez from the cracker".

I don't hate negroes at all. They have the same right to live as anyone. The point is "they" have different "cultures" and "values" that often conflict with civilized people. They relish in playing the "thug" and their "gangster rap" is so vile and full of hate that decent people wouldn't want anyone like that near them...
White people have a culture and a history that we are proud of, too.

It's a known fact, that Whites and Asians alike have built mighty civilizations that have changed the face of the world throughout history.
Great composers, artists, explorers, scientists..etc...we don't want to be forced to live with people who hate our guts and prey on our people and the past 60 years of "civil rights" has been a failure. The negroes are more violent, less educated and hate white people more now than ever before.
The white man has oppressed himself trying to get everyone up to our level to contribute meaningfully to society so we can live in peace and enjoy the greatness we created. In spite of our sacrifices we are still hated.


My point here was: equality is a lie. I want liberty, the liberty to separate from negroes and others and not be hunted and murdered for it like so many tens of thousands of white people have since emancipation.

I am proud of my Anglo-Saxon heritage and wish to see it preserved in future generations.

I dont want to kill anybody, or impose on the freedom of others to miscegenate if they are inclined to do so.

But I want the same freedom to say no for myself, I want the same liberty to form a community of like minded people (just like the jews, puerto ricans, chinese and negroes have all done) and say we will not be "caramel colored utopians", we are happy pursuing the culture of OUR ancestors and we want the right to keep it.


At the conclusion of the civil war, all blacks should have been returned to Africa. No form of foreign aid should have ever been provided. The stream of handouts created social vermin, parasites, and removed from the black the desire to improve, to build civilization.

No other people in human history have received as much aid as blacks. And, with all the trillions of dollars from dozens of nations, they are still no better than when Egypt Invaded Nubia. Why build when you beg?

Thee problem I have with your comments, is NOT that they aren't correct-as far as they go. Your statistics are accurate, and I have no reason to believe your personal experiences are not what you say they are. The problem is the people who are behind those statistics and experiences. They are not the whole of the Black population; as a matter of fact, the portion of the Black population that demonstrates the behavior(s) and cultural attitudes reflected in those statistics is a minority of the Black population as a whole. That minority tends to be concentrated among the urban poor. Poverty may not "cause" those behaviors and attitudes but it certain correlates with them, in a cycle of despair, hopelessness, want, and yes, rage.The young men who grow up in that environment have an excellent chance of falling into the cycle of violence, crime, and misogyny. Most of the women they rape and/or abuse are Black. Most of the people they rob are Black. Most of the people they kill are each other. I know, because I was an EMT/Paramedic in a major metropolitan area here in the South; guess who a lot of my "clientele" were.

The male role models these kids have are usually the neighborhood pimp, the neighborhood bookie, the neighborhood drug pusher, and the gang leaders-they're the ones with the bling, the cars, and the foxy women. The daily lesson they learn on the street,is "get tough, or die!". They get bombarded with the same advertising the rest of us do, but the only chance they see for them to have any of the nice things advertised is to steal them. A lot of the women and even girls they know and call "Ho" in fact are whores, selling their bodies to support everything from their kids to a drug habit. They go to school and quickly get the message that failure is the norm, and no more is expected of them.A lot of them have never met a White person who would even take the time to speak to them, much less care about them, and they haven't met too many people of any other color who will do that either. It's bleak, it's grim; it chews up their minds and souls, and will often knock the idealism out of anyone who tries to help. The successful Black people who used to have to live alongside their poorer counterparts are long since gone to the suburbs, leaving less a community, than a combat zone.

So why care? Well, ignoring them, excluding them, giving up on them, and throwing welfare and food stamp money (and damn little else) at the problem has only made it worse. We've lost two generations of kids to the streets,and we're losing another.They aren't all trash either; there are bright kids, who can be a positive part of society, if they get the chance, and there are mothers working three minimum wage jobs coming home dead tired, and helping their kids with schoolwork. There are people trying often at great risk, to take their streets back from the thugs. I've seen the bad things that happen; I've seen the good ones too:the friend who came out of the worst ghetto in Memphis, somehow got a scholarship, and ended up with two Phd.'s, and retired as an executive for a major national company; the kid we barely saved one night from a gunshot wound; now, he's a physician, saving lives himself.

You see, even among the ugliest face of Black America, there are positives; they just don't make the papers or the TV news as much as all the negatives; but that's only one side of the story. The millions of Black Americans who are out there every day, working, achieving, raising stable families. being a part of middle and upper-middle America, and not being one of the negative statistics are the face of Black America too, and believe it or not, they are the majority. All they need or want from you is acceptance, and the realization that there's no "criminal race", no "inferior race", no ""doomed-to-failure" race. Those people don't make the front page either, but they're there, just like the rest of us, coaching little league,volunteering in the community, sending their kids to college, doing all the things any of the rest of us do.

As for the other face of Black America, the one on the evening news, the only one you seem to want to see, if you raised a white or Latino kid in the same circumstances you'd get the same result; I've seen that, too, and I could pull up some more negative statistics and anecdotes to prove it...but I won't. I won't, not because I'm some bleeding-heart, PC liberal (far from it), but because I believe that trashing still more people won't help anyone. I'm no Pollyanna; I've been punched, spat on, and shot at trying to help, and cursed more often than thanked. I don't regret it, and I'd do it again; human lives (even those some think don't matter) are worth it. Maybe, just maybe, the experience of ugliness is less important than what we do with it-just a thought.

Like all those poor black multimillionaire "musicians" and athletes ..... what is Michael Vicks excuse?

 

[Madeline]

What is Paris Hilton's excuse, sitarro? Wealth does not ensure morality -- or is that news to you?

 

[The Gadfly]

What is Paris Hilton's excuse, sitarro? Wealth does not ensure morality -- or is that news to you?

No, unfortunately it doesn't. As a matter of fact, I can't recall sudden wealth and fame (especially when it comes at a relatively young age) ever making anyone of any race a better person; on the other hand, there have been many, again of all races, ruined by it. Sometimes success is even harder to handle than failure. What may be worse, is that we seem to have become a society which takes a certain perverse pleasure in seeing this happen.

 

[JBeukema]

In 99% of this nation, when pulled over by the cops at 2 am, it behooves the teenager in a POS car wearing casual clothes to be white.

Do you have anything other than your own bullshit to back this?

It pays for the teenager to be sober and not a jackass with an attitude- regardless of his race.

Shall I enumerate all the other times being black got someone a job or acceptance into college or a scholarship, or shall we agree to concede the obvious?

You might want to try seeing the world as it is, and not merely how everything that happens affects your lily white ass.

I'm only white when I'm speaking to the police

When I want money from the government or 'libruhls' with guilty consciences, I'm a Latino whose been robbed of my culture and heritage

 

[JBeukema]

What is Paris Hilton's excuse, sitarro? ?

She might or might not be a Beta Girl

This programming eliminates all learned moral convictions and stimulates the primitive sexual instinct, devoid of inhibitions. “Cat” alters may come out at this level.

​

 

[Madeline]

What is Paris Hilton's excuse, sitarro? ?

She might or might not be a Beta Girl

This programming eliminates all learned moral convictions and stimulates the primitive sexual instinct, devoid of inhibitions. “Cat” alters may come out at this level.

​

So, rich people have "syndromes" while poor people are just criminal for the same conduct?

Horse-shit.

 

[JBeukema]

What is Paris Hilton's excuse, sitarro? ?

She might or might not be a Beta Girl

This programming eliminates all learned moral convictions and stimulates the primitive sexual instinct, devoid of inhibitions. “Cat” alters may come out at this level.

​

So, rich people have "syndromes" while poor people are just criminal for the same conduct?

Where the fuck did you come up with that shit?

 

[30x90]

Thee problem I have with your comments, is NOT that they aren't correct-as far as they go. Your statistics are accurate, and I have no reason to believe your personal experiences are not what you say they are. The problem is the people who are behind those statistics and experiences. They are not the whole of the Black population; as a matter of fact, the portion of the Black population that demonstrates the behavior(s) and cultural attitudes reflected in those statistics is a minority of the Black population as a whole. That minority tends to be concentrated among the urban poor. Poverty may not "cause" those behaviors and attitudes but it certain correlates with them, in a cycle of despair, hopelessness, want, and yes, rage.The young men who grow up in that environment have an excellent chance of falling into the cycle of violence, crime, and misogyny. Most of the women they rape and/or abuse are Black. Most of the people they rob are Black. Most of the people they kill are each other. I know, because I was an EMT/Paramedic in a major metropolitan area here in the South; guess who a lot of my "clientele" were.

OH NO!
You're referring to people as "them" and "they" "those"....heh heh..just kidding...

The male role models these kids have are usually the neighborhood pimp, the neighborhood bookie, the neighborhood drug pusher, and the gang leaders-they're the ones with the bling, the cars, and the foxy women. The daily lesson they learn on the street,is "get tough, or die!". They get bombarded with the same advertising the rest of us do, but the only chance they see for them to have any of the nice things advertised is to steal them. A lot of the women and even girls they know and call "Ho" in fact are whores, selling their bodies to support everything from their kids to a drug habit. They go to school and quickly get the message that failure is the norm, and no more is expected of them.A lot of them have never met a White person who would even take the time to speak to them, much less care about them, and they haven't met too many people of any other color who will do that either. It's bleak, it's grim; it chews up their minds and souls, and will often knock the idealism out of anyone who tries to help. The successful Black people who used to have to live alongside their poorer counterparts are long since gone to the suburbs, leaving less a community, than a combat zone.

You imply that it's "normal" for them to act that way.Anyone can rise above their beginnings without resorting to pimping, selling drugs, carjacking..etc...it's called "working" and "going to school". Whatever the excuse or rationalization...negroes commit more crime than white people..Unfortunately they've been indoctrinated to hate whitey all their life and they have (unfounded) resentment so they think they're exacting vengeance for the imaginary "wrongs" done some time in the past..so tens of thousands of white people are victimized annually by predatory feral negroes...and it's been that way since reconstruction..they think whitey "owes" them something...hundreds of thousands of white people hunted and preyed on. One day enough white people will get sick of it.

So why care? Well, ignoring them, excluding them, giving up on them, and throwing welfare and food stamp money (and damn little else) at the problem has only made it worse. We've lost two generations of kids to the streets,and we're losing another.They aren't all trash either; there are bright kids, who can be a positive part of society, if they get the chance, and there are mothers working three minimum wage jobs coming home dead tired, and helping their kids with schoolwork. There are people trying often at great risk, to take their streets back from the thugs. I've seen the bad things that happen; I've seen the good ones too:the friend who came out of the worst ghetto in Memphis, somehow got a scholarship, and ended up with two Phd.'s, and retired as an executive for a major national company; the kid we barely saved one night from a gunshot wound; now, he's a physician, saving lives himself.

Anecdotal experience counts, but you have to admit, the majority of them don't end up that way.

You see, even among the ugliest face of Black America, there are positives; they just don't make the papers or the TV news as much as all the negatives; but that's only one side of the story. The millions of Black Americans who are out there every day, working, achieving, raising stable families. being a part of middle and upper-middle America, and not being one of the negative statistics are the face of Black America too, and believe it or not, they are the majority. All they need or want from you is acceptance, and the realization that there's no "criminal race", no "inferior race", no ""doomed-to-failure" race. Those people don't make the front page either, but they're there, just like the rest of us, coaching little league,volunteering in the community, sending their kids to college, doing all the things any of the rest of us do.


As for the other face of Black America, the one on the evening news, the only one you seem to want to see, if you raised a white or Latino kid in the same circumstances you'd get the same result; I've seen that, too, and I could pull up some more negative statistics and anecdotes to prove it...but I won't. I won't, not because I'm some bleeding-heart, PC liberal (far from it), but because I believe that trashing still more people won't help anyone. I'm no Pollyanna; I've been punched, spat on, and shot at trying to help, and cursed more often than thanked. I don't regret it, and I'd do it again; human lives (even those some think don't matter) are worth it. Maybe, just maybe, the experience of ugliness is less important than what we do with it-just a thought.

Bro, I never said that any race was inferior. Some races have advanced and adapted in civilization better than others.
Look at africa...never had a written language..never invented anything, still can't understand crop rotation or irrigation or even that they need clean drinking water...can't figure out electricity..(all those advances were discovered/invented/created by white men, by the way).

Look, I can accept that asians generally have a higher IQ than white people...I think that's common knowledge..I can accept that asians typically have better scores in math and science. It's true. It doesn't offend me...I can accept that.

But boy...if one DARES suggest that negroes commit more crime.(They do).have lower IQ,(they do) have far fewer inventions and scholarly leaders throughout their history.(It's true).
If one dares suggest that africans and their descendants aren't the pinnacle of civilization......you get called a "racist".

Well, race and racial characteristics/tendencies exist..to deny or pretend otherwise is silly and unrealistic.
Is one race "better" than another?..depends on the criteria you use to measure.

As a EMT you must know that some diseases are race specific...some medicines are race specific...and that some transplants are discouraged interracially.