It’s Time to Unplug the Hype Over Electric Vehicles

[Wyatt earp]

The power grid will catch up
Most EVs charge at night when the demand is less

Not when you have 300 million EVs charging at night, like I said

 

[pknopp]

Stuff starts in California and ends up everywhere

Electric cars are everywhere.

 

[pknopp]

He was implying he orders a hamburger and some other guy ordered a hamburger with just pickles or something

One guy orders an electric car, and another an ICE car and you get upset.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I got to ride in one. It was amazing. Now I like HP but I will get to that later. He got on the car and there was no noise, no fuss. no anything, it just pinned you into your seat. The car remained perfectly level, no wheel spin, no anything. Just amazing speed. It was really cool.

Now I like horsepower. I like the sound, but I also really like the electric cars also.......I don't understand why people get so upset over the choices of others. In 1.5 years my daughter will be out of college and we will look for a new car. Will it be electric? I don't know, it might, it might not. Either way I'll keep my Pontiac.

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Been driving electric and ICE forklifts for over 40 years, big deal I hate electric forklifts for comparison...

 

[postman]

EV vs American sports car

A Tesla Model S P100D with Ludicrous + mode engaged just set a new 4-door production sedan world record with a 10.72 second run down the 1/4-mile strip.


This Is How Fast The 2020 Corvette C8 Will Hit The 1/4-Mile time of 11.3 seconds,

 

[Wyatt earp]

One guy orders an electric car, and another an ICE car and you get upset.

Because the guy with the ICE car pays taxes on a gallon of gas for roads the electric car does not. Not besides poor people walking subsidize the guy with the EV

 

[pknopp]

Been driving electric and ICE forklifts for over 40 years, big deal I hate electric forklifts for comparison...

I have an electric lawn mower. I love it. It's far quieter and weighs a lot less.

 

[pknopp]

Because the guy with the ICE car pays taxes on a gallon of gas for roads the electric car does not. Not besides poor people walking subsidize the guy with the EV

There are yearly charges that electric car owners pay to pay for roads. I certainly do not know the laws of every state but there you are.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I have an electric lawn mower. I love it. It's far quieter and weighs a lot less.

Does it come with an extension cord ? ( my neighbor had one in the 1980s )

 

[postman]

I got to ride in one. It was amazing. Now I like HP but I will get to that later. He got on the car and there was no noise, no fuss. no anything, it just pinned you into your seat. The car remained perfectly level, no wheel spin, no anything. Just amazing speed. It was really cool.

Now I like horsepower. I like the sound, but I also really like the electric cars also

An electric vehicle isn't for everybody. But even the gearheads will love EV's. I i'm still looking it up, but they may be the fastest street legal car for street racing (1/8th mile)

The Lamborghini Hurricane will take it in the 1/4 mile, but the 1/8th, the Tesla probably has them beat.

 

[postman]

Not when you have 300 million EVs charging at night, like I said

Just the opposite. Charging at night, means that you can run the power plants at constant output, rather than using peaking generators to handle the daytime load (businesses, AC etc)

 

[pknopp]

Does it come with an extension cord ? ( my neighbor had one in the 1980s )

No, it's battery operated. Go to Lowes and check them out.

 

[pknopp]

An electric vehicle isn't for everybody. But even the gearheads will love EV's. I i'm still looking it up, but they may be the fastest street legal car for street racing (1/8th mile)

The Lamborghini Hurricane will take it in the 1/4 mile, but the 1/8th, the Tesla probably has them beat.

Absolutely. Unfortunately there is money and power in trying to divide people over stupid things.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Just the opposite. Charging at night, means that you can run the power plants at constant output, rather than using peaking generators to handle the daytime load (businesses, AC etc)

So no solar or wind..


Check.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

A Tesla charger will plug into a standard 240 outlet just like your dryer. Now that charger isn't going to charge your car 80% in 20 minutes like a fast charger but it most certainly will overnight in your garage.

Well for starters, there are no "standard" 240 outlets in a home other than ones put there for a reason.
Your home is wired for a certain max number of amps. Depending on your supply. Most modern homes have at least 100 amps.
Many 200 amps.
EV chargers use anywhere from 25 (the cheap ones) to 45 amps. In many homes that is almost half the amount the home can supply. If you put in charger and it's use, while say your dryer is on while you are blow drying your hair at the same time you are cooking a chicken... if installed incorrectly, it could overheat the homes wiring and cause a fire.
Edit that - it HAS caused fires.
A good EV charger, properly installed by someone knowing what they are doing is perfectly safe. No more danger than an electric furnace running for decades. But this is not what a lot of people do. And there are a lot of DIY folks who think they know what they are doing. Similar to wall gas furnaces. Lots of fires caused by them. Because the person who put it in didn't know what they were doing.

 

[postman]

So no solar or wind..


Check.

You're talking the carbon-friendly nuclear, hydro and geo-thermal, that run best at constant output.

 

[pknopp]

Well for starters, there are no "standard" 240 outlets in a home other than ones put there for a reason.

So yeah, standard 240 outlets. Should someone with no idea how to install one have an electrician do it? Sure, but it's a pretty basic install.

 

[postman]

Well for starters, there are no "standard" 240 outlets in a home other than ones put there for a reason.

Wrong. Standard power going into a home

The 240 volts enters your house through a watt-hour meter, which measures your electrical consumption so the power company can charge you for putting up all of those wires. In the past, meter readers would periodically check your meter to record your usage.

How Power Grids Work

Electrical power is a little bit like the air you breathe: You don't really think about it until it is missing. There are good reasons the power grid distribution system works the way it does, though it can lead to some big problems.

science.howstuffworks.com

 

[Wyatt earp]

So yeah, standard 240 outlets. Should someone with no idea how to install one have an electrician do it? Sure, but it's a pretty basic install.

 

[postman]

So yeah, standard 240 outlets. Should someone with no idea how to install one have an electrician do it? Sure, but it's a pretty basic install.

Standard power coming into the house is 2 wire 240 volts. They grab neutral from a waterpipe ground to get two 115 volt legs A and B.
240 just involves using both A and B 115v legs.