I've pondered on something for several years

[Ringtone]

And cannot get a legitimate answer.

Why are christians so enamored with jews? I just don't get it.

I ran across this earlier today- it's quite long and there are links. I followed the first one- I know that posting something that's very lengthy on this (or most any political message board) is a shot in the dark and usually a waste of time, since most already have their mind made up that no matter what, they are correct- if only that were the case-

How Yahweh Conquered Rome
Christianity and the Big Lie

The People of the Lie

Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words:

From all that you have just read you can deduce that lying is a sin for others, and for us a virtue. Lying is one with our job: we should lie by words, by eyes, by smile, by clothing. Not only to deceive patients; as you know, our purpose is higher, and the lie, not the twist of hand, makes our real strength. With the lie, patiently learned and piously exercised, if God helps us we will come to dominate this country and perhaps the world: but this can only be done on the condition of having been able to lie better and longer than our enemies. I will not see that day, but you will see it: it will be a new golden age, when only the last resorts will force us to pluck out teeth again, while it will be enough for us to govern the State and administer public affairs, to lavish the pious lies that we have learned to bring to perfection. If we prove ourselves capable of this, the empire of the tooth-pullers will extend from East to West until the most distant islands, and it will have no end.[1]


Even if we didn’t know what gang of professional liars Levi belonged to, their “God” would give them away: there is only one god who trained his people to lie and promised them world domination, and that is the god of Israel. “Israel,” remember, is the name Yahweh gave to Jacob, after Jacob lied to his aging father Isaac, by words and by clothing: “I am Esau your first-born,” he said, dressed up in “Esau’s best clothes,” in order to cheat Esau out of his birthright (Genesis 27:15-19). This is, in the literal—and literary—sense, the founding story of Israel. As long as Christians fail to see the malice of it, and its correlation with Jewish behavior, they will continue to play the part of Esau.


What is the biggest Jewish lie in history? Without contest, it is the claim that Jews, of all the nations inhabiting this earth, were once “chosen” by the almighty Creator of the Universe to enlighten and rule over mankind—while all their enemies were cursed by the same Creator. What is truly bewildering is not the enormity of the lie: many individuals may feel chosen by God, and even nations have done so. But only the Jews have managed to convince billions of non-Jews (Christians and Muslims) of their chosenness. How did they do it? “Almost by accident,” wrote Jewish author Marcus Eli Ravage in his must-read 1928 article “A real case against the Jews.” I think the accidental factor was rather minor.

There is a lot more at the link.

The first link I followed led to this


A Real Case Against the Jews
One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt


written by


Marcus Eli Ravage



published in

The Century Magazine

January 1928
Volume 115, Number 3
pages 346-350

excerpt:


You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.


Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.


But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

What in the world are you talking about? There's no biblical imperative that Jews rule the world or other people. Answer the question with chapter and verse, or concede your error.

 

[Ringtone]

And cannot get a legitimate answer.

Why are christians so enamored with jews? I just don't get it.

I ran across this earlier today- it's quite long and there are links. I followed the first one- I know that posting something that's very lengthy on this (or most any political message board) is a shot in the dark and usually a waste of time, since most already have their mind made up that no matter what, they are correct- if only that were the case-

How Yahweh Conquered Rome
Christianity and the Big Lie

The People of the Lie

Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words:

From all that you have just read you can deduce that lying is a sin for others, and for us a virtue. Lying is one with our job: we should lie by words, by eyes, by smile, by clothing. Not only to deceive patients; as you know, our purpose is higher, and the lie, not the twist of hand, makes our real strength. With the lie, patiently learned and piously exercised, if God helps us we will come to dominate this country and perhaps the world: but this can only be done on the condition of having been able to lie better and longer than our enemies. I will not see that day, but you will see it: it will be a new golden age, when only the last resorts will force us to pluck out teeth again, while it will be enough for us to govern the State and administer public affairs, to lavish the pious lies that we have learned to bring to perfection. If we prove ourselves capable of this, the empire of the tooth-pullers will extend from East to West until the most distant islands, and it will have no end.[1]


Even if we didn’t know what gang of professional liars Levi belonged to, their “God” would give them away: there is only one god who trained his people to lie and promised them world domination, and that is the god of Israel. “Israel,” remember, is the name Yahweh gave to Jacob, after Jacob lied to his aging father Isaac, by words and by clothing: “I am Esau your first-born,” he said, dressed up in “Esau’s best clothes,” in order to cheat Esau out of his birthright (Genesis 27:15-19). This is, in the literal—and literary—sense, the founding story of Israel. As long as Christians fail to see the malice of it, and its correlation with Jewish behavior, they will continue to play the part of Esau.


What is the biggest Jewish lie in history? Without contest, it is the claim that Jews, of all the nations inhabiting this earth, were once “chosen” by the almighty Creator of the Universe to enlighten and rule over mankind—while all their enemies were cursed by the same Creator. What is truly bewildering is not the enormity of the lie: many individuals may feel chosen by God, and even nations have done so. But only the Jews have managed to convince billions of non-Jews (Christians and Muslims) of their chosenness. How did they do it? “Almost by accident,” wrote Jewish author Marcus Eli Ravage in his must-read 1928 article “A real case against the Jews.” I think the accidental factor was rather minor.

There is a lot more at the link.

The first link I followed led to this


A Real Case Against the Jews
One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt


written by


Marcus Eli Ravage



published in

The Century Magazine

January 1928
Volume 115, Number 3
pages 346-350

excerpt:


You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.


Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.


But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

Saul hated being a Jew with all of the responsibilities that came with it.
His mission was to create a religion via Gospels and Epistles that stripped away the Commandments.
No one creates something new without defaming the existing.

What in the world are talking about? Via Gospels and Epistles?

 

[Likkmee]

I've pondered for many many years

 

[Ringtone]

And cannot get a legitimate answer.

Why are christians so enamored with jews? I just don't get it.

I ran across this earlier today- it's quite long and there are links. I followed the first one- I know that posting something that's very lengthy on this (or most any political message board) is a shot in the dark and usually a waste of time, since most already have their mind made up that no matter what, they are correct- if only that were the case-

How Yahweh Conquered Rome
Christianity and the Big Lie

The People of the Lie

Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words:

From all that you have just read you can deduce that lying is a sin for others, and for us a virtue. Lying is one with our job: we should lie by words, by eyes, by smile, by clothing. Not only to deceive patients; as you know, our purpose is higher, and the lie, not the twist of hand, makes our real strength. With the lie, patiently learned and piously exercised, if God helps us we will come to dominate this country and perhaps the world: but this can only be done on the condition of having been able to lie better and longer than our enemies. I will not see that day, but you will see it: it will be a new golden age, when only the last resorts will force us to pluck out teeth again, while it will be enough for us to govern the State and administer public affairs, to lavish the pious lies that we have learned to bring to perfection. If we prove ourselves capable of this, the empire of the tooth-pullers will extend from East to West until the most distant islands, and it will have no end.[1]


Even if we didn’t know what gang of professional liars Levi belonged to, their “God” would give them away: there is only one god who trained his people to lie and promised them world domination, and that is the god of Israel. “Israel,” remember, is the name Yahweh gave to Jacob, after Jacob lied to his aging father Isaac, by words and by clothing: “I am Esau your first-born,” he said, dressed up in “Esau’s best clothes,” in order to cheat Esau out of his birthright (Genesis 27:15-19). This is, in the literal—and literary—sense, the founding story of Israel. As long as Christians fail to see the malice of it, and its correlation with Jewish behavior, they will continue to play the part of Esau.


What is the biggest Jewish lie in history? Without contest, it is the claim that Jews, of all the nations inhabiting this earth, were once “chosen” by the almighty Creator of the Universe to enlighten and rule over mankind—while all their enemies were cursed by the same Creator. What is truly bewildering is not the enormity of the lie: many individuals may feel chosen by God, and even nations have done so. But only the Jews have managed to convince billions of non-Jews (Christians and Muslims) of their chosenness. How did they do it? “Almost by accident,” wrote Jewish author Marcus Eli Ravage in his must-read 1928 article “A real case against the Jews.” I think the accidental factor was rather minor.

There is a lot more at the link.

The first link I followed led to this


A Real Case Against the Jews
One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt


written by


Marcus Eli Ravage



published in

The Century Magazine

January 1928
Volume 115, Number 3
pages 346-350

excerpt:


You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.


Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.


But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

Might wanna read your Bible again. No, it doesn't say that the Jews were chosen to rule over everyone else, it just says that the Jews are God's chosen people because they said they would follow His laws. They weren't chosen to lead, they were chosen as favored people of God.

There are many bibles kiddo

You're right, there ARE many Bibles, but they all tell the same story about how the Hebrew people (i.e. Jews) are God's chosen people.

What in the world are you talking about? Many Bibles?

 

[Unkotare]

You are overthinking

You're under reading- imagine that

I know that posting something that's very lengthy on this (or most any political message board) is a shot in the dark and usually a waste of time, since most already have their mind made up that no matter what, they are correct-

Might wanna read your Bible again.

My bible? LOL- okay, let me quote you my bible- we hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and have certain unalienable rights, endowed by their Creator, among these are, the right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness- there are no caveats, no rules, no rituals, no tithes, no worshiping man- just showing respect in order to gain self respect.

Now, read the article and comment on it or STFU.

The man who wrote that owned 200 slaves and never freed any of them.

Anyhow you and others do not understand what Jefferson meant.

...

common sense alone should tell you that not all men are equal...not even brothers.

Jefferson knew what he was saying, and you apparently don't.

Then why didn't he free his slaves.

Why do you think?

 

[TheGreenHornet]

You are overthinking

You're under reading- imagine that

I know that posting something that's very lengthy on this (or most any political message board) is a shot in the dark and usually a waste of time, since most already have their mind made up that no matter what, they are correct-

Might wanna read your Bible again.

My bible? LOL- okay, let me quote you my bible- we hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and have certain unalienable rights, endowed by their Creator, among these are, the right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness- there are no caveats, no rules, no rituals, no tithes, no worshiping man- just showing respect in order to gain self respect.

Now, read the article and comment on it or STFU.

The man who wrote that owned 200 slaves and never freed any of them.

Anyhow you and others do not understand what Jefferson meant.

...

common sense alone should tell you that not all men are equal...not even brothers.

Jefferson knew what he was saying, and you apparently don't.

Then why didn't he free his slaves.

Why do you think?

You answer my question first.

It is presumptuous not to mention rude to refuse to answer a question and then turn around and ask one.

Either answer my question or i will put you on ignore

 

[Indeependent]

And cannot get a legitimate answer.

Why are christians so enamored with jews? I just don't get it.

I ran across this earlier today- it's quite long and there are links. I followed the first one- I know that posting something that's very lengthy on this (or most any political message board) is a shot in the dark and usually a waste of time, since most already have their mind made up that no matter what, they are correct- if only that were the case-

How Yahweh Conquered Rome
Christianity and the Big Lie

The People of the Lie

Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words:

From all that you have just read you can deduce that lying is a sin for others, and for us a virtue. Lying is one with our job: we should lie by words, by eyes, by smile, by clothing. Not only to deceive patients; as you know, our purpose is higher, and the lie, not the twist of hand, makes our real strength. With the lie, patiently learned and piously exercised, if God helps us we will come to dominate this country and perhaps the world: but this can only be done on the condition of having been able to lie better and longer than our enemies. I will not see that day, but you will see it: it will be a new golden age, when only the last resorts will force us to pluck out teeth again, while it will be enough for us to govern the State and administer public affairs, to lavish the pious lies that we have learned to bring to perfection. If we prove ourselves capable of this, the empire of the tooth-pullers will extend from East to West until the most distant islands, and it will have no end.[1]


Even if we didn’t know what gang of professional liars Levi belonged to, their “God” would give them away: there is only one god who trained his people to lie and promised them world domination, and that is the god of Israel. “Israel,” remember, is the name Yahweh gave to Jacob, after Jacob lied to his aging father Isaac, by words and by clothing: “I am Esau your first-born,” he said, dressed up in “Esau’s best clothes,” in order to cheat Esau out of his birthright (Genesis 27:15-19). This is, in the literal—and literary—sense, the founding story of Israel. As long as Christians fail to see the malice of it, and its correlation with Jewish behavior, they will continue to play the part of Esau.


What is the biggest Jewish lie in history? Without contest, it is the claim that Jews, of all the nations inhabiting this earth, were once “chosen” by the almighty Creator of the Universe to enlighten and rule over mankind—while all their enemies were cursed by the same Creator. What is truly bewildering is not the enormity of the lie: many individuals may feel chosen by God, and even nations have done so. But only the Jews have managed to convince billions of non-Jews (Christians and Muslims) of their chosenness. How did they do it? “Almost by accident,” wrote Jewish author Marcus Eli Ravage in his must-read 1928 article “A real case against the Jews.” I think the accidental factor was rather minor.

There is a lot more at the link.

The first link I followed led to this


A Real Case Against the Jews
One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt


written by


Marcus Eli Ravage



published in

The Century Magazine

January 1928
Volume 115, Number 3
pages 346-350

excerpt:


You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.


Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.


But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

Saul hated being a Jew with all of the responsibilities that came with it.
His mission was to create a religion via Gospels and Epistles that stripped away the Commandments.
No one creates something new without defaming the existing.

What in the world are talking about? Via Gospels and Epistles?

Thanks for admitting you never read either the Gospels &/or Epistles verse by verse.
To reiterate, the entire purpose of the Gospels and Epistles is to veer away from the Torah, Prophets and Writings.

 

[Ringtone]

And cannot get a legitimate answer.

Why are christians so enamored with jews? I just don't get it.

I ran across this earlier today- it's quite long and there are links. I followed the first one- I know that posting something that's very lengthy on this (or most any political message board) is a shot in the dark and usually a waste of time, since most already have their mind made up that no matter what, they are correct- if only that were the case-

How Yahweh Conquered Rome
Christianity and the Big Lie

The People of the Lie

Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words:

From all that you have just read you can deduce that lying is a sin for others, and for us a virtue. Lying is one with our job: we should lie by words, by eyes, by smile, by clothing. Not only to deceive patients; as you know, our purpose is higher, and the lie, not the twist of hand, makes our real strength. With the lie, patiently learned and piously exercised, if God helps us we will come to dominate this country and perhaps the world: but this can only be done on the condition of having been able to lie better and longer than our enemies. I will not see that day, but you will see it: it will be a new golden age, when only the last resorts will force us to pluck out teeth again, while it will be enough for us to govern the State and administer public affairs, to lavish the pious lies that we have learned to bring to perfection. If we prove ourselves capable of this, the empire of the tooth-pullers will extend from East to West until the most distant islands, and it will have no end.[1]


Even if we didn’t know what gang of professional liars Levi belonged to, their “God” would give them away: there is only one god who trained his people to lie and promised them world domination, and that is the god of Israel. “Israel,” remember, is the name Yahweh gave to Jacob, after Jacob lied to his aging father Isaac, by words and by clothing: “I am Esau your first-born,” he said, dressed up in “Esau’s best clothes,” in order to cheat Esau out of his birthright (Genesis 27:15-19). This is, in the literal—and literary—sense, the founding story of Israel. As long as Christians fail to see the malice of it, and its correlation with Jewish behavior, they will continue to play the part of Esau.


What is the biggest Jewish lie in history? Without contest, it is the claim that Jews, of all the nations inhabiting this earth, were once “chosen” by the almighty Creator of the Universe to enlighten and rule over mankind—while all their enemies were cursed by the same Creator. What is truly bewildering is not the enormity of the lie: many individuals may feel chosen by God, and even nations have done so. But only the Jews have managed to convince billions of non-Jews (Christians and Muslims) of their chosenness. How did they do it? “Almost by accident,” wrote Jewish author Marcus Eli Ravage in his must-read 1928 article “A real case against the Jews.” I think the accidental factor was rather minor.

There is a lot more at the link.

The first link I followed led to this


A Real Case Against the Jews
One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt


written by


Marcus Eli Ravage



published in

The Century Magazine

January 1928
Volume 115, Number 3
pages 346-350

excerpt:


You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.


Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.


But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

Saul hated being a Jew with all of the responsibilities that came with it.
His mission was to create a religion via Gospels and Epistles that stripped away the Commandments.
No one creates something new without defaming the existing.

What in the world are talking about? Via Gospels and Epistles?

Thanks for admitting you never read either the Gospels &/or Epistles verse by verse.
To reiterate, the entire purpose of the Gospels and Epistles is to veer away from the Torah, Prophets and Writings.

It is? Chapter and verse, please, showing that Christ is not the fulfilment of the Law and the prophets. . . .

crickets chirping

 

[Indeependent]

And cannot get a legitimate answer.

Why are christians so enamored with jews? I just don't get it.

I ran across this earlier today- it's quite long and there are links. I followed the first one- I know that posting something that's very lengthy on this (or most any political message board) is a shot in the dark and usually a waste of time, since most already have their mind made up that no matter what, they are correct- if only that were the case-

How Yahweh Conquered Rome
Christianity and the Big Lie

The People of the Lie

Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words:

From all that you have just read you can deduce that lying is a sin for others, and for us a virtue. Lying is one with our job: we should lie by words, by eyes, by smile, by clothing. Not only to deceive patients; as you know, our purpose is higher, and the lie, not the twist of hand, makes our real strength. With the lie, patiently learned and piously exercised, if God helps us we will come to dominate this country and perhaps the world: but this can only be done on the condition of having been able to lie better and longer than our enemies. I will not see that day, but you will see it: it will be a new golden age, when only the last resorts will force us to pluck out teeth again, while it will be enough for us to govern the State and administer public affairs, to lavish the pious lies that we have learned to bring to perfection. If we prove ourselves capable of this, the empire of the tooth-pullers will extend from East to West until the most distant islands, and it will have no end.[1]


Even if we didn’t know what gang of professional liars Levi belonged to, their “God” would give them away: there is only one god who trained his people to lie and promised them world domination, and that is the god of Israel. “Israel,” remember, is the name Yahweh gave to Jacob, after Jacob lied to his aging father Isaac, by words and by clothing: “I am Esau your first-born,” he said, dressed up in “Esau’s best clothes,” in order to cheat Esau out of his birthright (Genesis 27:15-19). This is, in the literal—and literary—sense, the founding story of Israel. As long as Christians fail to see the malice of it, and its correlation with Jewish behavior, they will continue to play the part of Esau.


What is the biggest Jewish lie in history? Without contest, it is the claim that Jews, of all the nations inhabiting this earth, were once “chosen” by the almighty Creator of the Universe to enlighten and rule over mankind—while all their enemies were cursed by the same Creator. What is truly bewildering is not the enormity of the lie: many individuals may feel chosen by God, and even nations have done so. But only the Jews have managed to convince billions of non-Jews (Christians and Muslims) of their chosenness. How did they do it? “Almost by accident,” wrote Jewish author Marcus Eli Ravage in his must-read 1928 article “A real case against the Jews.” I think the accidental factor was rather minor.

There is a lot more at the link.

The first link I followed led to this


A Real Case Against the Jews
One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt


written by


Marcus Eli Ravage



published in

The Century Magazine

January 1928
Volume 115, Number 3
pages 346-350

excerpt:


You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.


Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.


But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

Saul hated being a Jew with all of the responsibilities that came with it.
His mission was to create a religion via Gospels and Epistles that stripped away the Commandments.
No one creates something new without defaming the existing.

What in the world are talking about? Via Gospels and Epistles?

Thanks for admitting you never read either the Gospels &/or Epistles verse by verse.
To reiterate, the entire purpose of the Gospels and Epistles is to veer away from the Torah, Prophets and Writings.

It is? Chapter and verse, please, showing that Christ is not the fulfilment of the Law and the prophets. . . .

crickets chirping

I presume you are familiar with the Internet.
In case you are, there are about 100,000,000 sites that put the New Testament at your fingertips.
Go to one of them and pretend you are literate.

Your initial introduction to the New Testament, if you read it in Chronological Order, will be The Book of John, presumably written by John, the brother of Jesus.
John proceeds to tell the tale of how Paul of Tarsus is a lying asshole because Jesus never said to abandon the Commandments.

Constantine, The Great did not like this fact about The Book of John, so he had The Book of John placed at the end of what was dubbed the Canon.
The Canon is referred to as such because the New Testament was Canonized in ideological Order, as opposed to Chronological Order, simply because you can't release a work that begins by stating that everything in the work is a load of horseshit.

If you read The New Testament in Canonized Order and know nothing about the Torah or Jews, you will see a work dedicated to having Jews painted as Satan.

Now go find a site and start with the Gospel According to Matthew, which, along with the Gospel According to John, are the 2 most Jew hating pieces of literature ever written.

And no, I will not do your work for you.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I don't "get" alot of things...therefore, I do not dwell on them much.

Do you want a cookie for remaining clueless or what?

Some things I will remain clueless on because it is beyond understanding anyway. Kinda like trying to figure out why a gay male wants to be a female but still wants a gay guy as dating material....or why dogs chase cats, etc.

In short.....and back on topic....is some things we are not meant to figure out. Study it, ponder and muse on it, but not go bonkers trying to understand it.

Sorry, but comparing gay males who are wanting to be female isn't the same as a dog chasing a cat. Gay males who want to be female would naturally want to be with a man if they think they are female. Your logic sucks.

Then why become female? Were they born with a wire crossed or something? It was not meant to be offensive yet you took it as so. POINT IS...some things are not crystal clear.

So you are not all pushed out of shape....here are more examples:

Why do animals and people yawn?
Who made up the word DOG? It's a canine. But why dog?
etc etc etc

Trying to figure out the OPs question is....well.... I guess good for discussion until the name calling starts..or the snarkiness.

Were they born with a wire crossed? Perhaps, because scientists have discovered that the brain of a female is structured the same way that the brain of a gay male is.

Why do animals and people yawn? Simple, they sense a change in air pressure and need to equalize it. Most of the time that a yawn happens is when there is a change in air pressure. You can see it quite often while flying.

As far as who made up the word "dog"? Dunno......................just happens to be part of the English language. However, a dog is called a lot of different things, depending on the language you speak. If you're really interested in the subject, do some research and find out where the word actually comes from, as well as what it's original roots are. Most of the American language is a mixture of several different languages. If you had ever traveled outside of the US, you would know that.

And no, I don't get snarky until a poster calls me names and is snarky first.

 

[justinacolmena]

Why are christians so enamored with jews? I just don't get it.

Because they have their babies downtown in a Jewish hospital and get all circumcised etc., and then they have their wisdom teeth removed as a rite of passage and a confirmation of their Christian faith.

 

[ABikerSailor]

And cannot get a legitimate answer.

Why are christians so enamored with jews? I just don't get it.

I ran across this earlier today- it's quite long and there are links. I followed the first one- I know that posting something that's very lengthy on this (or most any political message board) is a shot in the dark and usually a waste of time, since most already have their mind made up that no matter what, they are correct- if only that were the case-

How Yahweh Conquered Rome
Christianity and the Big Lie

The People of the Lie

Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words:

From all that you have just read you can deduce that lying is a sin for others, and for us a virtue. Lying is one with our job: we should lie by words, by eyes, by smile, by clothing. Not only to deceive patients; as you know, our purpose is higher, and the lie, not the twist of hand, makes our real strength. With the lie, patiently learned and piously exercised, if God helps us we will come to dominate this country and perhaps the world: but this can only be done on the condition of having been able to lie better and longer than our enemies. I will not see that day, but you will see it: it will be a new golden age, when only the last resorts will force us to pluck out teeth again, while it will be enough for us to govern the State and administer public affairs, to lavish the pious lies that we have learned to bring to perfection. If we prove ourselves capable of this, the empire of the tooth-pullers will extend from East to West until the most distant islands, and it will have no end.[1]


Even if we didn’t know what gang of professional liars Levi belonged to, their “God” would give them away: there is only one god who trained his people to lie and promised them world domination, and that is the god of Israel. “Israel,” remember, is the name Yahweh gave to Jacob, after Jacob lied to his aging father Isaac, by words and by clothing: “I am Esau your first-born,” he said, dressed up in “Esau’s best clothes,” in order to cheat Esau out of his birthright (Genesis 27:15-19). This is, in the literal—and literary—sense, the founding story of Israel. As long as Christians fail to see the malice of it, and its correlation with Jewish behavior, they will continue to play the part of Esau.


What is the biggest Jewish lie in history? Without contest, it is the claim that Jews, of all the nations inhabiting this earth, were once “chosen” by the almighty Creator of the Universe to enlighten and rule over mankind—while all their enemies were cursed by the same Creator. What is truly bewildering is not the enormity of the lie: many individuals may feel chosen by God, and even nations have done so. But only the Jews have managed to convince billions of non-Jews (Christians and Muslims) of their chosenness. How did they do it? “Almost by accident,” wrote Jewish author Marcus Eli Ravage in his must-read 1928 article “A real case against the Jews.” I think the accidental factor was rather minor.

There is a lot more at the link.

The first link I followed led to this


A Real Case Against the Jews
One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt


written by


Marcus Eli Ravage



published in

The Century Magazine

January 1928
Volume 115, Number 3
pages 346-350

excerpt:


You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.


Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.


But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

Might wanna read your Bible again. No, it doesn't say that the Jews were chosen to rule over everyone else, it just says that the Jews are God's chosen people because they said they would follow His laws. They weren't chosen to lead, they were chosen as favored people of God.

There are many bibles kiddo

You're right, there ARE many Bibles, but they all tell the same story about how the Hebrew people (i.e. Jews) are God's chosen people.

What in the world are you talking about? Many Bibles?

Yeah...................many Bibles. There are Bibles for the New Age types, the KJV, as well as other translations, but they all say that the Jews are God's chosen people.

 

[Ringtone]

And cannot get a legitimate answer.

Why are christians so enamored with jews? I just don't get it.

I ran across this earlier today- it's quite long and there are links. I followed the first one- I know that posting something that's very lengthy on this (or most any political message board) is a shot in the dark and usually a waste of time, since most already have their mind made up that no matter what, they are correct- if only that were the case-

How Yahweh Conquered Rome
Christianity and the Big Lie

The People of the Lie

Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words:

From all that you have just read you can deduce that lying is a sin for others, and for us a virtue. Lying is one with our job: we should lie by words, by eyes, by smile, by clothing. Not only to deceive patients; as you know, our purpose is higher, and the lie, not the twist of hand, makes our real strength. With the lie, patiently learned and piously exercised, if God helps us we will come to dominate this country and perhaps the world: but this can only be done on the condition of having been able to lie better and longer than our enemies. I will not see that day, but you will see it: it will be a new golden age, when only the last resorts will force us to pluck out teeth again, while it will be enough for us to govern the State and administer public affairs, to lavish the pious lies that we have learned to bring to perfection. If we prove ourselves capable of this, the empire of the tooth-pullers will extend from East to West until the most distant islands, and it will have no end.[1]


Even if we didn’t know what gang of professional liars Levi belonged to, their “God” would give them away: there is only one god who trained his people to lie and promised them world domination, and that is the god of Israel. “Israel,” remember, is the name Yahweh gave to Jacob, after Jacob lied to his aging father Isaac, by words and by clothing: “I am Esau your first-born,” he said, dressed up in “Esau’s best clothes,” in order to cheat Esau out of his birthright (Genesis 27:15-19). This is, in the literal—and literary—sense, the founding story of Israel. As long as Christians fail to see the malice of it, and its correlation with Jewish behavior, they will continue to play the part of Esau.


What is the biggest Jewish lie in history? Without contest, it is the claim that Jews, of all the nations inhabiting this earth, were once “chosen” by the almighty Creator of the Universe to enlighten and rule over mankind—while all their enemies were cursed by the same Creator. What is truly bewildering is not the enormity of the lie: many individuals may feel chosen by God, and even nations have done so. But only the Jews have managed to convince billions of non-Jews (Christians and Muslims) of their chosenness. How did they do it? “Almost by accident,” wrote Jewish author Marcus Eli Ravage in his must-read 1928 article “A real case against the Jews.” I think the accidental factor was rather minor.

There is a lot more at the link.

The first link I followed led to this


A Real Case Against the Jews
One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt


written by


Marcus Eli Ravage



published in

The Century Magazine

January 1928
Volume 115, Number 3
pages 346-350

excerpt:


You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.


Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.


But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

Might wanna read your Bible again. No, it doesn't say that the Jews were chosen to rule over everyone else, it just says that the Jews are God's chosen people because they said they would follow His laws. They weren't chosen to lead, they were chosen as favored people of God.

There are many bibles kiddo

You're right, there ARE many Bibles, but they all tell the same story about how the Hebrew people (i.e. Jews) are God's chosen people.

What in the world are you talking about? Many Bibles?

Yeah...................many Bibles. There are Bibles for the New Age types, the KJV, as well as other translations, but they all say that the Jews are God's chosen people.

There is one collection of source documents (singular) for a number of translations (plural), and, yes, one of the central truths of the Bible is that Abraham's descendants are the chosen people through whom God would divulge his written revelation and through whom he would bring the Messiah. And?

 

[ABikerSailor]

And cannot get a legitimate answer.

Why are christians so enamored with jews? I just don't get it.

I ran across this earlier today- it's quite long and there are links. I followed the first one- I know that posting something that's very lengthy on this (or most any political message board) is a shot in the dark and usually a waste of time, since most already have their mind made up that no matter what, they are correct- if only that were the case-

How Yahweh Conquered Rome
Christianity and the Big Lie

The People of the Lie

Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words:

From all that you have just read you can deduce that lying is a sin for others, and for us a virtue. Lying is one with our job: we should lie by words, by eyes, by smile, by clothing. Not only to deceive patients; as you know, our purpose is higher, and the lie, not the twist of hand, makes our real strength. With the lie, patiently learned and piously exercised, if God helps us we will come to dominate this country and perhaps the world: but this can only be done on the condition of having been able to lie better and longer than our enemies. I will not see that day, but you will see it: it will be a new golden age, when only the last resorts will force us to pluck out teeth again, while it will be enough for us to govern the State and administer public affairs, to lavish the pious lies that we have learned to bring to perfection. If we prove ourselves capable of this, the empire of the tooth-pullers will extend from East to West until the most distant islands, and it will have no end.[1]


Even if we didn’t know what gang of professional liars Levi belonged to, their “God” would give them away: there is only one god who trained his people to lie and promised them world domination, and that is the god of Israel. “Israel,” remember, is the name Yahweh gave to Jacob, after Jacob lied to his aging father Isaac, by words and by clothing: “I am Esau your first-born,” he said, dressed up in “Esau’s best clothes,” in order to cheat Esau out of his birthright (Genesis 27:15-19). This is, in the literal—and literary—sense, the founding story of Israel. As long as Christians fail to see the malice of it, and its correlation with Jewish behavior, they will continue to play the part of Esau.


What is the biggest Jewish lie in history? Without contest, it is the claim that Jews, of all the nations inhabiting this earth, were once “chosen” by the almighty Creator of the Universe to enlighten and rule over mankind—while all their enemies were cursed by the same Creator. What is truly bewildering is not the enormity of the lie: many individuals may feel chosen by God, and even nations have done so. But only the Jews have managed to convince billions of non-Jews (Christians and Muslims) of their chosenness. How did they do it? “Almost by accident,” wrote Jewish author Marcus Eli Ravage in his must-read 1928 article “A real case against the Jews.” I think the accidental factor was rather minor.

There is a lot more at the link.

The first link I followed led to this


A Real Case Against the Jews
One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt


written by


Marcus Eli Ravage



published in

The Century Magazine

January 1928
Volume 115, Number 3
pages 346-350

excerpt:


You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.


Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.


But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

Might wanna read your Bible again. No, it doesn't say that the Jews were chosen to rule over everyone else, it just says that the Jews are God's chosen people because they said they would follow His laws. They weren't chosen to lead, they were chosen as favored people of God.

There are many bibles kiddo

You're right, there ARE many Bibles, but they all tell the same story about how the Hebrew people (i.e. Jews) are God's chosen people.

What in the world are you talking about? Many Bibles?

Yeah...................many Bibles. There are Bibles for the New Age types, the KJV, as well as other translations, but they all say that the Jews are God's chosen people.

There is one collection of source documents (singular) for a number of translations (plural), and, yes, one of the central truths of the Bible is that Abraham's descendants are the chosen people through whom God would divulge his written revelation and through whom he would bring the Messiah. And?

A collection of source documents (singular) for a number of translations (plural)? Did you know that the first 5 books of the OT is a bastardized translation of the Torah, and the rest of the OT is mainly a history of the Hebrews, with Psalms and Proverbs being a collection of sayings and songs? Do some research on the Bible, it may help you see through the bullshit dogma that you've been taught most of your life.

 

[Gracie]

I don't "get" alot of things...therefore, I do not dwell on them much.

Do you want a cookie for remaining clueless or what?

Some things I will remain clueless on because it is beyond understanding anyway. Kinda like trying to figure out why a gay male wants to be a female but still wants a gay guy as dating material....or why dogs chase cats, etc.

In short.....and back on topic....is some things we are not meant to figure out. Study it, ponder and muse on it, but not go bonkers trying to understand it.

Sorry, but comparing gay males who are wanting to be female isn't the same as a dog chasing a cat. Gay males who want to be female would naturally want to be with a man if they think they are female. Your logic sucks.

Then why become female? Were they born with a wire crossed or something? It was not meant to be offensive yet you took it as so. POINT IS...some things are not crystal clear.

So you are not all pushed out of shape....here are more examples:

Why do animals and people yawn?
Who made up the word DOG? It's a canine. But why dog?
etc etc etc

Trying to figure out the OPs question is....well.... I guess good for discussion until the name calling starts..or the snarkiness.

Were they born with a wire crossed? Perhaps, because scientists have discovered that the brain of a female is structured the same way that the brain of a gay male is.

Why do animals and people yawn? Simple, they sense a change in air pressure and need to equalize it. Most of the time that a yawn happens is when there is a change in air pressure. You can see it quite often while flying.

As far as who made up the word "dog"? Dunno......................just happens to be part of the English language. However, a dog is called a lot of different things, depending on the language you speak. If you're really interested in the subject, do some research and find out where the word actually comes from, as well as what it's original roots are. Most of the American language is a mixture of several different languages. If you had ever traveled outside of the US, you would know that.

And no, I don't get snarky until a poster calls me names and is snarky first.

um. ok.

 

[anotherlife]

Christians and Jews are not enemies. Christians and Satanist Jews are enemies. The ones that killed Christ are still amongst us.

 

[Ringtone]

And cannot get a legitimate answer.

Why are christians so enamored with jews? I just don't get it.

I ran across this earlier today- it's quite long and there are links. I followed the first one- I know that posting something that's very lengthy on this (or most any political message board) is a shot in the dark and usually a waste of time, since most already have their mind made up that no matter what, they are correct- if only that were the case-

How Yahweh Conquered Rome
Christianity and the Big Lie

The People of the Lie

Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words:

From all that you have just read you can deduce that lying is a sin for others, and for us a virtue. Lying is one with our job: we should lie by words, by eyes, by smile, by clothing. Not only to deceive patients; as you know, our purpose is higher, and the lie, not the twist of hand, makes our real strength. With the lie, patiently learned and piously exercised, if God helps us we will come to dominate this country and perhaps the world: but this can only be done on the condition of having been able to lie better and longer than our enemies. I will not see that day, but you will see it: it will be a new golden age, when only the last resorts will force us to pluck out teeth again, while it will be enough for us to govern the State and administer public affairs, to lavish the pious lies that we have learned to bring to perfection. If we prove ourselves capable of this, the empire of the tooth-pullers will extend from East to West until the most distant islands, and it will have no end.[1]


Even if we didn’t know what gang of professional liars Levi belonged to, their “God” would give them away: there is only one god who trained his people to lie and promised them world domination, and that is the god of Israel. “Israel,” remember, is the name Yahweh gave to Jacob, after Jacob lied to his aging father Isaac, by words and by clothing: “I am Esau your first-born,” he said, dressed up in “Esau’s best clothes,” in order to cheat Esau out of his birthright (Genesis 27:15-19). This is, in the literal—and literary—sense, the founding story of Israel. As long as Christians fail to see the malice of it, and its correlation with Jewish behavior, they will continue to play the part of Esau.


What is the biggest Jewish lie in history? Without contest, it is the claim that Jews, of all the nations inhabiting this earth, were once “chosen” by the almighty Creator of the Universe to enlighten and rule over mankind—while all their enemies were cursed by the same Creator. What is truly bewildering is not the enormity of the lie: many individuals may feel chosen by God, and even nations have done so. But only the Jews have managed to convince billions of non-Jews (Christians and Muslims) of their chosenness. How did they do it? “Almost by accident,” wrote Jewish author Marcus Eli Ravage in his must-read 1928 article “A real case against the Jews.” I think the accidental factor was rather minor.

There is a lot more at the link.

The first link I followed led to this


A Real Case Against the Jews
One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt


written by


Marcus Eli Ravage



published in

The Century Magazine

January 1928
Volume 115, Number 3
pages 346-350

excerpt:


You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.


Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.


But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

Might wanna read your Bible again. No, it doesn't say that the Jews were chosen to rule over everyone else, it just says that the Jews are God's chosen people because they said they would follow His laws. They weren't chosen to lead, they were chosen as favored people of God.

There are many bibles kiddo

You're right, there ARE many Bibles, but they all tell the same story about how the Hebrew people (i.e. Jews) are God's chosen people.

What in the world are you talking about? Many Bibles?

Yeah...................many Bibles. There are Bibles for the New Age types, the KJV, as well as other translations, but they all say that the Jews are God's chosen people.

There is one collection of source documents (singular) for a number of translations (plural), and, yes, one of the central truths of the Bible is that Abraham's descendants are the chosen people through whom God would divulge his written revelation and through whom he would bring the Messiah. And?

A collection of source documents (singular) for a number of translations (plural)? Did you know that the first 5 books of the OT is a bastardized translation of the Torah, and the rest of the OT is mainly a history of the Hebrews, with Psalms and Proverbs being a collection of sayings and songs? Do some research on the Bible, it may help you see through the bullshit dogma that you've been taught most of your life.

Ahhhhhh, shut up, you silly ass. You just asked a question and presumed to know what's in my head at that same time. LOL! What a bumbling simpleton you are.

 

[LittleNipper]

And cannot get a legitimate answer.

Why are christians so enamored with jews? I just don't get it.

I ran across this earlier today- it's quite long and there are links. I followed the first one- I know that posting something that's very lengthy on this (or most any political message board) is a shot in the dark and usually a waste of time, since most already have their mind made up that no matter what, they are correct- if only that were the case-

How Yahweh Conquered Rome
Christianity and the Big Lie

The People of the Lie

Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words:

From all that you have just read you can deduce that lying is a sin for others, and for us a virtue. Lying is one with our job: we should lie by words, by eyes, by smile, by clothing. Not only to deceive patients; as you know, our purpose is higher, and the lie, not the twist of hand, makes our real strength. With the lie, patiently learned and piously exercised, if God helps us we will come to dominate this country and perhaps the world: but this can only be done on the condition of having been able to lie better and longer than our enemies. I will not see that day, but you will see it: it will be a new golden age, when only the last resorts will force us to pluck out teeth again, while it will be enough for us to govern the State and administer public affairs, to lavish the pious lies that we have learned to bring to perfection. If we prove ourselves capable of this, the empire of the tooth-pullers will extend from East to West until the most distant islands, and it will have no end.[1]


Even if we didn’t know what gang of professional liars Levi belonged to, their “God” would give them away: there is only one god who trained his people to lie and promised them world domination, and that is the god of Israel. “Israel,” remember, is the name Yahweh gave to Jacob, after Jacob lied to his aging father Isaac, by words and by clothing: “I am Esau your first-born,” he said, dressed up in “Esau’s best clothes,” in order to cheat Esau out of his birthright (Genesis 27:15-19). This is, in the literal—and literary—sense, the founding story of Israel. As long as Christians fail to see the malice of it, and its correlation with Jewish behavior, they will continue to play the part of Esau.


What is the biggest Jewish lie in history? Without contest, it is the claim that Jews, of all the nations inhabiting this earth, were once “chosen” by the almighty Creator of the Universe to enlighten and rule over mankind—while all their enemies were cursed by the same Creator. What is truly bewildering is not the enormity of the lie: many individuals may feel chosen by God, and even nations have done so. But only the Jews have managed to convince billions of non-Jews (Christians and Muslims) of their chosenness. How did they do it? “Almost by accident,” wrote Jewish author Marcus Eli Ravage in his must-read 1928 article “A real case against the Jews.” I think the accidental factor was rather minor.

There is a lot more at the link.

The first link I followed led to this


A Real Case Against the Jews
One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt


written by


Marcus Eli Ravage



published in

The Century Magazine

January 1928
Volume 115, Number 3
pages 346-350

excerpt:


You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.


Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.


But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

Saul hated being a Jew with all of the responsibilities that came with it.
His mission was to create a religion via Gospels and Epistles that stripped away the Commandments.
No one creates something new without defaming the existing.

What in the world are talking about? Via Gospels and Epistles?

Thanks for admitting you never read either the Gospels &/or Epistles verse by verse.
To reiterate, the entire purpose of the Gospels and Epistles is to veer away from the Torah, Prophets and Writings.

No, it isn't! If the intent of the New Testament was to veer away from the Prophets not only would there be no understanding of the Christ/Messiah. And there would also be no regard for the Jews nor the nation of Israel (I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you). It is not that the LAW has been ignored, the LAW has been fulfilled. There is no salvation for any man trying to keep the LAW ----- which is mortally (Jesus was GOD's SON/both man and God) impossible. It is through HIS keeping of the LAW and HIS shedding of HIS blood that anyone can be saved. And it is HIS resurrection that allows HIS redeemed to also experience everlasting life in a resurrected body someday.

 

[LittleNipper]

Christians and Jews are not enemies. Christians and Satanist Jews are enemies. The ones that killed Christ are still amongst us.

ALL OUR SINS CAUSE JESUS TO ALLOW HIMSELF TO BE NAILED TO THAT CROSS! NO ONE TOOK HIS LIFE FROM HIM! HE WILLINGLY GAVE IT UP FOR OUR TRANSGRESSIONS!

 

[RodISHI]

Saul hated being a Jew with all of the responsibilities that came with it.
His mission was to create a religion via Gospels and Epistles that stripped away the Commandments.
No one creates something new without defaming the existing.

I do not think that was Saul's intent at all. The Commandments and Moses law are not one in the same. Saul was speaking about what they did by human traditions. Saul understood that the Law of Moses was accomplished by the Spirit within.

Paul covered this in Romans 3:31 and in Romans passages throughout. Genesis 1:1 (KJV)

1 Corinthians 6 :: King James Version (KJV)

1 Corinthians 6 - Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make [them] the members of an harlot? God forbid.

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This was already mentioned in the thread. Does one go to the houses of wisdom's maidens or the houses of harlotry? Proverbs 9 :: King James Version (KJV)

The only thing defamed in Jesus Christ (anointed with Jehovah's Salvation) is the hypocrisy of the pharisees and those who make guess at what and where God's Spirit is and teach those who seek to follow God's will in error.

Genesis 1:1 (KJV)

"ditch" primary search results are listed below along with dictionary aides, FAQs, and Lexiconc.

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