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It's not only that. You ask for help, I help you but you do not dictate how much I will help you. You "beg" for food? Here is your EBT card (or what the fuck it is its name) to buy pasta, milk, flour, eggs, ground beef, chicken.. etc… the essentials. I gave you help, I'tell you what you are getting.I didn't say they weren't just that they shouldn't.
It would only be an excuse if one person wasn't being forced to fund what you think the government provides with money it wouldn't have without having taken it from the people first.
Do you do what your boss says? Why? Does it have anything to do with your boss providing you the means with which to pay your bills, in other words, a salary?
Huh?
Go 4 responses back where it starts "i hear ya". I was asked if when then government starts doing more and more will I continue to use that as an excuse to dictate behavior?
When the money I earned is taken and handed to someone that didn't, believing I should have a say in how it's used isn't an excuse but a reason.
I asked about doing what a boss says and why. Where I work, while I may not like what my boss asked me to do, I do it because he's the boss and because he pays me. In other words, he provides me with something called a paycheck that I wouldn't have if he didn't provide it to me. What that means is I do what my boss asks of me because he pays me to do it and I do it whether I like it or not. That's how life works in the real world not the imaginary world of social welfare handouts where those who get something think they hold no accountability to those who provide it.
Hmmmm... Ok. I guess that's a 'yes'.
If I do what my boss does because he pays me, those we're paying with social welfare need to do what we, as the bosses, say.
I hear ya. But they are. And it's gonna get worse. I'm just wondering, as government assumes responsibility for more and more of our wants and needs - will you continue to use that as an excuse to dictate behavior?
I didn't say they weren't just that they shouldn't.
It would only be an excuse if one person wasn't being forced to fund what you think the government provides with money it wouldn't have without having taken it from the people first.
Do you do what your boss says? Why? Does it have anything to do with your boss providing you the means with which to pay your bills, in other words, a salary?
Huh?
Go 4 responses back where it starts "i hear ya". I was asked if when then government starts doing more and more will I continue to use that as an excuse to dictate behavior?
When the money I earned is taken and handed to someone that didn't, believing I should have a say in how it's used isn't an excuse but a reason.
I asked about doing what a boss says and why. Where I work, while I may not like what my boss asked me to do, I do it because he's the boss and because he pays me. In other words, he provides me with something called a paycheck that I wouldn't have if he didn't provide it to me. What that means is I do what my boss asks of me because he pays me to do it and I do it whether I like it or not. That's how life works in the real world not the imaginary world of social welfare handouts where those who get something think they hold no accountability to those who provide it.
Hmmmm... Ok. I guess that's a 'yes'.
If I do what my boss does because he pays me, those we're paying with social welfare need to do what we, as the bosses, say.
When those that rely on and demand someone else's money to support them use what is supposed to be used for needs on things that aren't needs, it is a real issue. Perhaps you don't care if someone abuses the system, but those of us who fund it do.
Report Walmart Workers Cost Taxpayers 6.2 Billion In Public Assistance - Forbes
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You don't fix cultural issues by slapping a law on them.
Somehow we still haven't figured that one out.
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When those that rely on and demand someone else's money to support them use what is supposed to be used for needs on things that aren't needs, it is a real issue. Perhaps you don't care if someone abuses the system, but those of us who fund it do.
Report Walmart Workers Cost Taxpayers 6.2 Billion In Public Assistance - Forbes
Funny how that works out, isn't it?
Sad part is so many don't realized that when they go on the plantation of the government dole the government controls what they do.I didn't say they weren't just that they shouldn't.
It would only be an excuse if one person wasn't being forced to fund what you think the government provides with money it wouldn't have without having taken it from the people first.
Do you do what your boss says? Why? Does it have anything to do with your boss providing you the means with which to pay your bills, in other words, a salary?
Huh?
Go 4 responses back where it starts "i hear ya". I was asked if when then government starts doing more and more will I continue to use that as an excuse to dictate behavior?
When the money I earned is taken and handed to someone that didn't, believing I should have a say in how it's used isn't an excuse but a reason.
I asked about doing what a boss says and why. Where I work, while I may not like what my boss asked me to do, I do it because he's the boss and because he pays me. In other words, he provides me with something called a paycheck that I wouldn't have if he didn't provide it to me. What that means is I do what my boss asks of me because he pays me to do it and I do it whether I like it or not. That's how life works in the real world not the imaginary world of social welfare handouts where those who get something think they hold no accountability to those who provide it.
Hmmmm... Ok. I guess that's a 'yes'.
If I do what my boss does because he pays me, those we're paying with social welfare need to do what we, as the bosses, say.
Yep. That's the way it's panning out. Government assumes responsibility for "taking care" of us, and then lords it over us as our "bosses". It's gonna get ugly.
Someone made the analogy that those who provide the money are sure to ask questions about how that money is used. Does your boss ask you what you do with the money he pays to you?
The idea that people receiving welfare are living high on the hog from the amounts they receive, is a long-standing fiction that the right uses to drive hate against the poor. The rules for receiving welfare have tightened since Clinton was in power. The amounts received are not enough to pay for cruises and tattoos. Have you right wingers learned NOTHING from the abject failure of the mandatory drug testing of welfare recipients?
You're willing to spend millions on means testing, and fraud checks in order to catch a percentage of cheaters so small, that the savings doesn't even begin to offset the costs of the testing and investigations. Such obsession is irrational and it's expensive.
I was taught that a social safety net is the price we pay for living in a capitalist society. Capitalism has swings, and downtowns that cannot always be predicted and such downturns hit the lowest income earners the hardest. Corporations and individuals contribute to that social safety net as part of their taxes, knowing at it is a necessary part of the overall government infrastructure which supports business and the population during the hard times.
American conservatives act like they owe nothing to the society in which they live for providing an educated and literate workforce, transportation systems, roads, infrastructure and resources that enable their businesses to run in safety and security free from crime and intimidation, bribery and corruption, which protects their property, both their chattels and their intellectual property, and provides a platform upon which they can build a success business. Paying taxes reimburses the government for all that you are provided with to help you succeed.
The greed and selfishness the right is a major reason why US infrastructure is crumbling and why the US is falling behind in education, medicine, and every measure of a successful nation, except family income which is the highest in the world. To the rest of the world, your greed and selfishness is unconscionable.
"We're trying to make sure those benefits are used the way they were intended," O'Donnell, vice chair of the state senate's standing committee on public health and welfare, said. "This is about prosperity. This is about having a great life."
Kansas to ban use of welfare on tattoos cruises psychics - CNN.com
That's the quote that discredits the idea of welfare system per se. Everybody knows there are professional welfare receivers who do not work and do not intend to do so. Brand new tattoo and a bottle of cheep beer is everything this people really care about.
Welfare was introduced to provide temporary help to people who for some reasons cannot sustain themselves. You cannot sit at home and expect you are getting everything you want. Sorry, you are in the US, it doesn't work that way in this country.
Who pays for that education?They should get a education and go to work for nasa, nws or constructing our infrastructure. They'll make good money and won't be on welfare.
Who pays for that education?They should get a education and go to work for nasa, nws or constructing our infrastructure. They'll make good money and won't be on welfare.
This kind of thing is a big problem in Kansas?All US money is imaginary. Can print however much they want because it isn't backed by gold any more. So objecting to spending because you think it's a lot doesn't make any sense because the money has only as much value as we say it does, but no real vlaue - it's just fancy paper.
US is over $18 trillion in debt. Even if we were only $1 trillion in debt we could never pay it off without reducing spending to zero for some years. So when ever a politician talks about reducing spending, they're taking advantage of stupid people who think that's going to do something real. It isn't. Can spend as much as they want since it seems they know they'll default on the national debt eventually.
Excuse me but you really should deal with reality.
Here is reality:
THE net worth of American households is now 20 percent higher than it was before it began to decline in 2007, the Federal Reserve reported this week. It said the households together were worth $81.5 trillion at the end of the second quarter, higher than ever and up 10 percent from a year earlier.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/20/b...as-rebounded-since-financial-crisis.html?_r=0
Total Assets of ALL households: $95.4 trillion...
Total DEBTS of all households: $14.0 trillion...
NET WORTH: $81.5 trillion.
Want to pay off the national debt?:
A) STOP Spending more then tax revenue coming in.
B) Value added Tax then 10% on ALL purchases going exclusively pay off $18 trillion..
C) Tax of 10% on $8.76 trillion is $876 billion of personal consumption of Gross Domestic Product.
Table One from this source: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2002/11/art2full.pdf
In summary : NO MORE DEBT Added to the $18 trillion by spending ONLY what comes in and no further tax increases!
$876 billion pays off $18 trillion debt in 20 years. Problem solved.
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Who pays for that education?They should get a education and go to work for nasa, nws or constructing our infrastructure. They'll make good money and won't be on welfare.
Well, maybe they'll get some government help but hey they're working. Right?
Who pays for that education?They should get a education and go to work for nasa, nws or constructing our infrastructure. They'll make good money and won't be on welfare.
Well, maybe they'll get some government help but hey they're working. Right?
Are you serious?So because you're a whore working a job you loathe, no one else should have a good time?
Do the math sometime. Welfare doesn't impact working people enough to have a big ol stick up your butts about it.
I was taught that a social safety net is the price we pay for living in a capitalist society.
That's not what I replied. Check post #129 paragraph four. It says I was taught to provide for yourself or do without.I was taught that a social safety net is the price we pay for living in a capitalist society.
Ever wonder who taught you that? Think maybe the owners of the "Walmarts" of the world had anything to do with it?
There are few useful degrees.
So because you're a whore working a job you loathe, no one else should have a good time?
