Kasich commits political suicide

[paddymurphy]

You're where the republican party has NEVER been in this century. Where almost all Americans aren't. You're far right of even most republicans. And have nothing to do with moderates, liberals, or most independents.

And worse, you're intent on excluding any but the 'pure'. Exclusion and 'purity' aren't a recipe for a governing coallition. But for an inept fringe caucus.

You genuinely can't see any difference between say, John Boehner and Barack Obama in terms of policy?

Wow. That tells us far more about you than it does about them.

What are the big differences in Boehner/Obama policies? Obama has gotten his entire agenda passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch. Where was the opposition?

They differ wildly on taxes. With Boeher pushing for the maintenance of tax cuts for the wealthy, and even their expansion. While Obama wants the tax cuts centered around the middle class. And the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire.

There's one major policy difference you can't perceive. I don't think its a matter of willful ignorance. I think you genuinely can't see it. That there is only two sides of this to you: 'conservatives' and communists. And nothing in between.

With a conservative only being the most extreme fringe of the right wing.

The only part of this that's uncertain......is if you imagine that most people think like you do. Or dismiss almost all Americans as 'communists'.

Yet Boehner and McConnell have gone along with Obama's entire agenda. Name just one part of Obama's agenda that he hasn't gotten passed on their watch?

No, they haven't. They've compromised with him. With Obama conceding on some of the extensions of the tax cuts for the wealthy and spending cuts....and Boehner compromising on UI extensions and funding for the rest of the federal government.

You're perception of a 'real conservative' is one who doesn't compromise. Who doesn't take into account any other view, any other need. Who pushes through their ideology pure and unaltered. But you lack the numbers in congress to push through your agenda unilaterally.

What then do you do?

The 'real conservative' can do nothing. As he's been effectively rendered impotent and powerless. As without the ability to push through his ideologue vision unaltered by any other view or need.......he can't vote for anything that can pass.

And its the stark refusal to acknowledge MATH that has resulted in the 'freedom caucus' enacting virtually none of their proposals. Where if they'd been willing to compromise, they'd have been able to enact some of them. And have resulted in some of the lowest approval ratings for congress in polling history.

So which part of Obama's agenda hasn't he gotten passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch? I'm all ears.

Immigration reform.

 

[Davros]

You're where the republican party has NEVER been in this century. Where almost all Americans aren't. You're far right of even most republicans. And have nothing to do with moderates, liberals, or most independents.

And worse, you're intent on excluding any but the 'pure'. Exclusion and 'purity' aren't a recipe for a governing coallition. But for an inept fringe caucus.

You genuinely can't see any difference between say, John Boehner and Barack Obama in terms of policy?

Wow. That tells us far more about you than it does about them.

What are the big differences in Boehner/Obama policies? Obama has gotten his entire agenda passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch. Where was the opposition?

They differ wildly on taxes. With Boeher pushing for the maintenance of tax cuts for the wealthy, and even their expansion. While Obama wants the tax cuts centered around the middle class. And the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire.

There's one major policy difference you can't perceive. I don't think its a matter of willful ignorance. I think you genuinely can't see it. That there is only two sides of this to you: 'conservatives' and communists. And nothing in between.

With a conservative only being the most extreme fringe of the right wing.

The only part of this that's uncertain......is if you imagine that most people think like you do. Or dismiss almost all Americans as 'communists'.

Yet Boehner and McConnell have gone along with Obama's entire agenda. Name just one part of Obama's agenda that he hasn't gotten passed on their watch?

No, they haven't. They've compromised with him. With Obama conceding on some of the extensions of the tax cuts for the wealthy and spending cuts....and Boehner compromising on UI extensions and funding for the rest of the federal government.

You're perception of a 'real conservative' is one who doesn't compromise. Who doesn't take into account any other view, any other need. Who pushes through their ideology pure and unaltered. But you lack the numbers in congress to push through your agenda unilaterally.

What then do you do?

The 'real conservative' can do nothing. As he's been effectively rendered impotent and powerless. As without the ability to push through his ideologue vision unaltered by any other view or need.......he can't vote for anything that can pass.

And its the stark refusal to acknowledge MATH that has resulted in the 'freedom caucus' enacting virtually none of their proposals. Where if they'd been willing to compromise, they'd have been able to enact some of them. And have resulted in some of the lowest approval ratings for congress in polling history.

So which part of Obama's agenda hasn't he gotten passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch? I'm all ears.

No you aren't. You're ignoring answers.

 

[Skylar]

But you didn't get elected, and I'm basing that on all the bitching about RINO'S
Neither Trump nor Carson will be elected President.

Wow.. crystal ball's working overtime I see.

Sorry, there's a helluva lot more excitement over Trump and Carson then your seventy year old washed up has been and that nutbag Sanders. Look at Bush, he's a RINO, actually, probably a leftist... and he's failing miserably. The GOP swept you guys in the last two elections. Wll it happen next year? I dunno, but rule it out is absurd... Obama's been an unmitigated disaster, as has been these RINO's.

Excitement over Trump and Carson? By a minority of Republicans responding to polls. And you mistake amusement for excitement.

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

Actually, most Americans support lower taxes, balanced budgets, and secured borders. It's too bad the Republican Party got hijacked by Neocon/Progressive assholes. It's time to clean house.

Most Americans support lower taxes for the middle class. But higher taxes for the wealthy. Most Americans support reproductive freedom, gay marriage, social safetynets, immigration reform, and a federal government free of shutdowns.

All of which the 'freedom caucus' oppose. The Freedom Caucus doesn't represent the views of most people. With your definition of a 'true conservative' excluding even most republicans.

That's how fringe your perspective is.

 

[Rustic]

If they get elected, they get to govern... the notion that the majority of people n this country are centrists, or worse, leftists, well, I don't see it. Trump and Carson are saying things that a lot of conservatives are saying, and it is resonating.... big time.

But you didn't get elected, and I'm basing that on all the bitching about RINO'S
Neither Trump nor Carson will be elected President.

Wow.. crystal ball's working overtime I see.

Sorry, there's a helluva lot more excitement over Trump and Carson then your seventy year old washed up has been and that nutbag Sanders. Look at Bush, he's a RINO, actually, probably a leftist... and he's failing miserably. The GOP swept you guys in the last two elections. Wll it happen next year? I dunno, but rule it out is absurd... Obama's been an unmitigated disaster, as has been these RINO's.

Excitement over Trump and Carson? By a minority of Republicans responding to polls. And you mistake amusement for excitement.

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

No, the last two presidential Rinos received hardly any votes in the elections, hence losing.
If the real conservatives ran they would have won, because a good number of people would have actually showed up to the polls. There for winning.

 

[paulitician]

Wow.. crystal ball's working overtime I see.

Sorry, there's a helluva lot more excitement over Trump and Carson then your seventy year old washed up has been and that nutbag Sanders. Look at Bush, he's a RINO, actually, probably a leftist... and he's failing miserably. The GOP swept you guys in the last two elections. Wll it happen next year? I dunno, but rule it out is absurd... Obama's been an unmitigated disaster, as has been these RINO's.

Excitement over Trump and Carson? By a minority of Republicans responding to polls. And you mistake amusement for excitement.

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

Actually, most Americans support lower taxes, balanced budgets, and secured borders. It's too bad the Republican Party got hijacked by Neocon/Progressive assholes. It's time to clean house.

So what? Most Americans support Medicare and Medicaid too. Most Americans want to have their cake and eat it too. Sane politicians realize tough choices have to be made that will be largely unpopular.

Bigger Government and Open Borders is not what most Republicans want. And they haven't been properly represented. It's time to change that.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I like Kasich..he looks at fellow Republicans and says WTF?

Have to see how he does in the debate tonight

Here is a question.

Could you see Kasich being Clinton's VP choice?

Yes

Which is why I hope he lashes out like that tonight so Trump can put him squarely in his place. And don't be mistaken about who I do or don't support as I'm undecided, but I'm definitely not in the Kasich camp.

 

[Skylar]

You're where the republican party has NEVER been in this century. Where almost all Americans aren't. You're far right of even most republicans. And have nothing to do with moderates, liberals, or most independents.

And worse, you're intent on excluding any but the 'pure'. Exclusion and 'purity' aren't a recipe for a governing coallition. But for an inept fringe caucus.

You genuinely can't see any difference between say, John Boehner and Barack Obama in terms of policy?

Wow. That tells us far more about you than it does about them.

What are the big differences in Boehner/Obama policies? Obama has gotten his entire agenda passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch. Where was the opposition?

They differ wildly on taxes. With Boeher pushing for the maintenance of tax cuts for the wealthy, and even their expansion. While Obama wants the tax cuts centered around the middle class. And the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire.

There's one major policy difference you can't perceive. I don't think its a matter of willful ignorance. I think you genuinely can't see it. That there is only two sides of this to you: 'conservatives' and communists. And nothing in between.

With a conservative only being the most extreme fringe of the right wing.

The only part of this that's uncertain......is if you imagine that most people think like you do. Or dismiss almost all Americans as 'communists'.

Yet Boehner and McConnell have gone along with Obama's entire agenda. Name just one part of Obama's agenda that he hasn't gotten passed on their watch?

No, they haven't. They've compromised with him. With Obama conceding on some of the extensions of the tax cuts for the wealthy and spending cuts....and Boehner compromising on UI extensions and funding for the rest of the federal government.

You're perception of a 'real conservative' is one who doesn't compromise. Who doesn't take into account any other view, any other need. Who pushes through their ideology pure and unaltered. But you lack the numbers in congress to push through your agenda unilaterally.

What then do you do?

The 'real conservative' can do nothing. As he's been effectively rendered impotent and powerless. As without the ability to push through his ideologue vision unaltered by any other view or need.......he can't vote for anything that can pass.

And its the stark refusal to acknowledge MATH that has resulted in the 'freedom caucus' enacting virtually none of their proposals. Where if they'd been willing to compromise, they'd have been able to enact some of them. And have resulted in some of the lowest approval ratings for congress in polling history.

So which part of Obama's agenda hasn't he gotten passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch? I'm all ears.

I've already offered you a specific example: Obama didn't want the extension of tax cuts for the wealthy. Any of them.

Yet most were made permanent.

But you ignore the answers and pretend no such differences exist. Making your requests for examples all the more meaningless. As you don't want such examples. And will ignore them when offered.

 

[paulitician]

Wow.. crystal ball's working overtime I see.

Sorry, there's a helluva lot more excitement over Trump and Carson then your seventy year old washed up has been and that nutbag Sanders. Look at Bush, he's a RINO, actually, probably a leftist... and he's failing miserably. The GOP swept you guys in the last two elections. Wll it happen next year? I dunno, but rule it out is absurd... Obama's been an unmitigated disaster, as has been these RINO's.

Excitement over Trump and Carson? By a minority of Republicans responding to polls. And you mistake amusement for excitement.

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

Actually, most Americans support lower taxes, balanced budgets, and secured borders. It's too bad the Republican Party got hijacked by Neocon/Progressive assholes. It's time to clean house.

Most Americans support lower taxes for the middle class. But higher taxes for the wealthy. Most Americans support reproductive freedom, gay marriage, social safetynets, immigration reform, and a federal government free of shutdowns.

All of which the 'freedom caucus' oppose. The Freedom Caucus doesn't represent the views of most people. With your definition of a 'true conservative' excluding even most republicans.

That's how fringe your perspective is.

Lower Taxes, Balanced Budgets, and Secured Borders. That's what most want. But they've been sold out by corrupt idiots on both sides. The snakes even passed Obama's despicable recent budget in the wee hours of the night.

But i think most Republicans are finally waking up. They're gonna dump the Neocons/Progressives.

 

[paddymurphy]

But you didn't get elected, and I'm basing that on all the bitching about RINO'S
Neither Trump nor Carson will be elected President.

Wow.. crystal ball's working overtime I see.

Sorry, there's a helluva lot more excitement over Trump and Carson then your seventy year old washed up has been and that nutbag Sanders. Look at Bush, he's a RINO, actually, probably a leftist... and he's failing miserably. The GOP swept you guys in the last two elections. Wll it happen next year? I dunno, but rule it out is absurd... Obama's been an unmitigated disaster, as has been these RINO's.

Excitement over Trump and Carson? By a minority of Republicans responding to polls. And you mistake amusement for excitement.

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

No, the last two presidential Rinos received hardly any votes in the elections, hence losing.
If the real conservatives ran they would have won, because a good number of people would have actually showed up to the polls. There for winning.

So, in the Republican primary where most conservatives vote, they were not able to select a "real" conservative but in the general election, where everyone votes, including the majority party, the democrats, and moderates in the middle, the conservatives would suddenly win? Do you have any idea how stupid that argument is?

 

[bendog]

Excitement over Trump and Carson? By a minority of Republicans responding to polls. And you mistake amusement for excitement.

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

Actually, most Americans support lower taxes, balanced budgets, and secured borders. It's too bad the Republican Party got hijacked by Neocon/Progressive assholes. It's time to clean house.

Most Americans support lower taxes for the middle class. But higher taxes for the wealthy. Most Americans support reproductive freedom, gay marriage, social safetynets, immigration reform, and a federal government free of shutdowns.

All of which the 'freedom caucus' oppose. The Freedom Caucus doesn't represent the views of most people. With your definition of a 'true conservative' excluding even most republicans.

That's how fringe your perspective is.

Lower Taxes, Balanced Budgets, and Secured Borders. That's what most want. But they've been sold out by corrupt idiots on both sides. The snakes even passed Obama's despicable recent budget in the wee hours of the night.

But i think most Republicans are finally waking up. They're gonna dump the Neocons/Progressives.

Actually a super maj wants higher taxes on the very wealthy.

 

[BlueGin]

I like Kasich..he looks at fellow Republicans and says WTF?

Have to see how he does in the debate tonight

Here is a question.

Could you see Kasich being Clinton's VP choice?

That would never happen

Nope. Clinton is a quid quo pro politician that values loyalty. Kasich has done nothing for her.

Must be why she let 4 Americans get murdered instead of providing security.

 

[paulitician]

What are the big differences in Boehner/Obama policies? Obama has gotten his entire agenda passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch. Where was the opposition?

They differ wildly on taxes. With Boeher pushing for the maintenance of tax cuts for the wealthy, and even their expansion. While Obama wants the tax cuts centered around the middle class. And the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire.

There's one major policy difference you can't perceive. I don't think its a matter of willful ignorance. I think you genuinely can't see it. That there is only two sides of this to you: 'conservatives' and communists. And nothing in between.

With a conservative only being the most extreme fringe of the right wing.

The only part of this that's uncertain......is if you imagine that most people think like you do. Or dismiss almost all Americans as 'communists'.

Yet Boehner and McConnell have gone along with Obama's entire agenda. Name just one part of Obama's agenda that he hasn't gotten passed on their watch?

No, they haven't. They've compromised with him. With Obama conceding on some of the extensions of the tax cuts for the wealthy and spending cuts....and Boehner compromising on UI extensions and funding for the rest of the federal government.

You're perception of a 'real conservative' is one who doesn't compromise. Who doesn't take into account any other view, any other need. Who pushes through their ideology pure and unaltered. But you lack the numbers in congress to push through your agenda unilaterally.

What then do you do?

The 'real conservative' can do nothing. As he's been effectively rendered impotent and powerless. As without the ability to push through his ideologue vision unaltered by any other view or need.......he can't vote for anything that can pass.

And its the stark refusal to acknowledge MATH that has resulted in the 'freedom caucus' enacting virtually none of their proposals. Where if they'd been willing to compromise, they'd have been able to enact some of them. And have resulted in some of the lowest approval ratings for congress in polling history.

So which part of Obama's agenda hasn't he gotten passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch? I'm all ears.

No you aren't. You're ignoring answers.

Name just one part. I'm willing to listen.

 

[Rustic]

The vast majority of conservatives are like me they did not even vote in the last two presidential elections, I am becoming more and more libertarian every day.
I will never vote for a socialist/progressive/Rino/moderate all being the same. Hildabeast and kasich two of a kind voting for one is the same as the other... Why even vote???

 

[paulitician]

What are the big differences in Boehner/Obama policies? Obama has gotten his entire agenda passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch. Where was the opposition?

They differ wildly on taxes. With Boeher pushing for the maintenance of tax cuts for the wealthy, and even their expansion. While Obama wants the tax cuts centered around the middle class. And the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire.

There's one major policy difference you can't perceive. I don't think its a matter of willful ignorance. I think you genuinely can't see it. That there is only two sides of this to you: 'conservatives' and communists. And nothing in between.

With a conservative only being the most extreme fringe of the right wing.

The only part of this that's uncertain......is if you imagine that most people think like you do. Or dismiss almost all Americans as 'communists'.

Yet Boehner and McConnell have gone along with Obama's entire agenda. Name just one part of Obama's agenda that he hasn't gotten passed on their watch?

No, they haven't. They've compromised with him. With Obama conceding on some of the extensions of the tax cuts for the wealthy and spending cuts....and Boehner compromising on UI extensions and funding for the rest of the federal government.

You're perception of a 'real conservative' is one who doesn't compromise. Who doesn't take into account any other view, any other need. Who pushes through their ideology pure and unaltered. But you lack the numbers in congress to push through your agenda unilaterally.

What then do you do?

The 'real conservative' can do nothing. As he's been effectively rendered impotent and powerless. As without the ability to push through his ideologue vision unaltered by any other view or need.......he can't vote for anything that can pass.

And its the stark refusal to acknowledge MATH that has resulted in the 'freedom caucus' enacting virtually none of their proposals. Where if they'd been willing to compromise, they'd have been able to enact some of them. And have resulted in some of the lowest approval ratings for congress in polling history.

So which part of Obama's agenda hasn't he gotten passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch? I'm all ears.

I've already offered you a specific example: Obama didn't want the extension of tax cuts for the wealthy. Any of them.

Yet most were made permanent.

But you ignore the answers and pretend no such differences exist. Making your requests for examples all the more meaningless. As you don't want such examples. And will ignore them when offered.

If Obama wanted to end those tax cuts, he could have at any time.

 

[BlueGin]

Holy crap, so much for Kasich. I've been saying a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be the GOP's strongest, but that's history: Kasich lashes out: ‘What has happened to the conservative movement?’

I think this stuff makes him a Marxist/communist/socialist:

"I've about had it with these people," Kasich said at the rally in Westerville, Ohio. "We got one candidate that says we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our people in this country who are seniors, who are about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has acknowledged that he would like to gut Medicare.

Kasich went on, saying, "We got one person saying we ought to have a 10 percent flat tax that will drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars" and there's another challenger in the field "says we ought to take 10 or 11 people and pick them up — I don't know where we're going to go, their homes, their apartments — we're going to pick them up and scream at them to get out of our country. That's crazy. That is just crazy."

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

"We got people proposing healthcare reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance," Kasich says. "What has happened to our party? What has happened the conservative movement?"

.

Then this morning on the news they had footage where he was touting the stance against sending illegals home to Mexico.

Yeah. He ain't making any friends with conservatives.

I thought the same thing.

He is a conservative. He is simply a rational one; the kind who is practical and pragmatic.

Illegal immigration is why Donald Trump is so popular. Taking the opposing side is not going to appeal to an already angry GOP base.

Who cares what the angry base think? They have never elected a president and never will.

Well we see how well things go when the leftist media picks the candidate so... Yeah... Let's do that again.

 

[ogibillm]

I like him to an extent, but he's a RINO..... haven't we had enough of the RINO's?

Anyone that isn't a "rino?"

 

[bendog]

They differ wildly on taxes. With Boeher pushing for the maintenance of tax cuts for the wealthy, and even their expansion. While Obama wants the tax cuts centered around the middle class. And the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire.

There's one major policy difference you can't perceive. I don't think its a matter of willful ignorance. I think you genuinely can't see it. That there is only two sides of this to you: 'conservatives' and communists. And nothing in between.

With a conservative only being the most extreme fringe of the right wing.

The only part of this that's uncertain......is if you imagine that most people think like you do. Or dismiss almost all Americans as 'communists'.

Yet Boehner and McConnell have gone along with Obama's entire agenda. Name just one part of Obama's agenda that he hasn't gotten passed on their watch?

No, they haven't. They've compromised with him. With Obama conceding on some of the extensions of the tax cuts for the wealthy and spending cuts....and Boehner compromising on UI extensions and funding for the rest of the federal government.

You're perception of a 'real conservative' is one who doesn't compromise. Who doesn't take into account any other view, any other need. Who pushes through their ideology pure and unaltered. But you lack the numbers in congress to push through your agenda unilaterally.

What then do you do?

The 'real conservative' can do nothing. As he's been effectively rendered impotent and powerless. As without the ability to push through his ideologue vision unaltered by any other view or need.......he can't vote for anything that can pass.

And its the stark refusal to acknowledge MATH that has resulted in the 'freedom caucus' enacting virtually none of their proposals. Where if they'd been willing to compromise, they'd have been able to enact some of them. And have resulted in some of the lowest approval ratings for congress in polling history.

So which part of Obama's agenda hasn't he gotten passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch? I'm all ears.

I've already offered you a specific example: Obama didn't want the extension of tax cuts for the wealthy. Any of them.

Yet most were made permanent.

But you ignore the answers and pretend no such differences exist. Making your requests for examples all the more meaningless. As you don't want such examples. And will ignore them when offered.

If Obama wanted to end those tax cuts, he could have at any time.

He could have prior to losing the House.

 

[Rustic]

I like Kasich..he looks at fellow Republicans and says WTF?

Have to see how he does in the debate tonight

Here is a question.

Could you see Kasich being Clinton's VP choice?

Yes

Which is why I hope he lashes out like that tonight so Trump can put him squarely in his place. And don't be mistaken about who I do or don't support as I'm undecided, but I'm definitely not in the Kasich camp.

They would be two peas in a pod, spineless progressives.

 

[kiwiman127]

The GOP plans for Medicare is a sure fire loser for the GOP.
Going to a voucher system would end up putting millions and millions of fixed income seniors in the uninsured catogory. They want base the annual voucher increase on inflation. The problem with that is that the cost of healthcare/insurance has increased much more than the inflation rate. Between 1999-2009 which is before Obamacare, healthcare insurance increased 131%, inflation rose 38%. Clearly, senior citizens would be unable to afford healthcare insurance in no time.
The GOP plan is the kiss of death for millions of seniors. Kinda like a slow genocide.
Kasich realizes this

 

[paulitician]

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

Actually, most Americans support lower taxes, balanced budgets, and secured borders. It's too bad the Republican Party got hijacked by Neocon/Progressive assholes. It's time to clean house.

Most Americans support lower taxes for the middle class. But higher taxes for the wealthy. Most Americans support reproductive freedom, gay marriage, social safetynets, immigration reform, and a federal government free of shutdowns.

All of which the 'freedom caucus' oppose. The Freedom Caucus doesn't represent the views of most people. With your definition of a 'true conservative' excluding even most republicans.

That's how fringe your perspective is.

Lower Taxes, Balanced Budgets, and Secured Borders. That's what most want. But they've been sold out by corrupt idiots on both sides. The snakes even passed Obama's despicable recent budget in the wee hours of the night.

But i think most Republicans are finally waking up. They're gonna dump the Neocons/Progressives.

Actually a super maj wants higher taxes on the very wealthy.

Excuse me if i don't take your word on that one.