Kasich commits political suicide

[Rustic]

Sounds like a typical whiny Communist/Progressive. What's happened to the 'Conservative Movement' is that frauds like Bush, Boehner, McCain, McConnell, and Kasich were allowed to hijack it. Is there any real difference between them and Barack Hussein Obama?

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years.

You're where the republican party has NEVER been in this century. Where almost all Americans aren't. You're far right of even most republicans. And have nothing to do with moderates, liberals, or most independents.

And worse, you're intent on excluding any but the 'pure'. Exclusion and 'purity' aren't a recipe for a governing coallition. But for an inept fringe caucus.

I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

You genuinely can't see any difference between say, John Boehner and Barack Obama in terms of policy?

Wow. That tells us far more about you than it does about them.

There is no differences between boner and Obama...

 

[paddymurphy]

Sounds like a typical whiny Communist/Progressive. What's happened to the 'Conservative Movement' is that frauds like Bush, Boehner, McCain, McConnell, and Kasich were allowed to hijack it. Is there any real difference between them and Barack Hussein Obama?

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years.

You're where the republican party has NEVER been in this century. Where almost all Americans aren't. You're far right of even most republicans. And have nothing to do with moderates, liberals, or most independents.

And worse, you're intent on excluding any but the 'pure'. Exclusion and 'purity' aren't a recipe for a governing coallition. But for an inept fringe caucus.

I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

You genuinely can't see any difference between say, John Boehner and Barack Obama in terms of policy?

Wow. That tells us far more about you than it does about them.

Wrong, real conservatives will never even show up to polls to vote for Rinos...

Which is why the Rino's keep winning, right?

 

[007]

I think it was stand up stuff and I applaud him for doing what he did. I have a lot more respect for him now. The good thing about The Donald, he's making everybody come clean.

But now that he questions or even thinks too hard about hard right policy....he's a communist.

The fringe right has a binary reasoning scheme. Either you accept ONLY what they believe. Or you're a communist.

So much for the big tent.

The libtard dictionary of synonyms: Fringe right = Traditional conservative platforms.

So 'traditional conservative platforms' exclude most republicans, all moderates and all liberals?

Please... listen to yourself and try not to sound too stupid.

TRADITIONALLY, the republican base is CONSERVATIVE... not moderate, and certainly not LIBERAL. Now the TRUE, TRADITIONAL, CONSERVATIVE BASE of the republican party is FED UP with this moderate horse crap, which basically means DEM LITE. They want the republican party to GET BACK to it's traditional CONSERVATIVE platforms, and that's what Trump, Carson and Cruz are doing, and that's why they're KILLING their "moderate" presidential competition.

What part about that are you missing? You been on a long vacation on another planet or something, or do you just enjoy regurgitating leftist BS?

"GET BACK to it's traditional CONSERVATIVE platforms" And in what years do you suppose the Republican party platform was more conservative than it is now? When Eisenhower ran? Nixon? Reagan or either Bush?

Irrelevant.

 

[Skylar]

Sounds like a typical whiny Communist/Progressive. What's happened to the 'Conservative Movement' is that frauds like Bush, Boehner, McCain, McConnell, and Kasich were allowed to hijack it. Is there any real difference between them and Barack Hussein Obama?

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years.

You're where the republican party has NEVER been in this century. Where almost all Americans aren't. You're far right of even most republicans. And have nothing to do with moderates, liberals, or most independents.

And worse, you're intent on excluding any but the 'pure'. Exclusion and 'purity' aren't a recipe for a governing coallition. But for an inept fringe caucus.

I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

You genuinely can't see any difference between say, John Boehner and Barack Obama in terms of policy?

Wow. That tells us far more about you than it does about them.

What are the big differences in Boehner/Obama policies? Obama has gotten his entire agenda passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch. Where was the opposition?

They differ wildly on taxes. With Boeher pushing for the maintenance of tax cuts for the wealthy, and even their expansion. While Obama wants the tax cuts centered around the middle class. And the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire.

There's one major policy difference you can't perceive. I don't think its a matter of willful ignorance. I think you genuinely can't see it. That there is only two sides of this to you: 'conservatives' and communists. And nothing in between.

With a conservative only being the most extreme fringe of the right wing.

The only part of this that's uncertain......is if you imagine that most people think like you do. Or dismiss almost all Americans as 'communists'.

 

[paulitician]

Sounds like a typical whiny Communist/Progressive. What's happened to the 'Conservative Movement' is that frauds like Bush, Boehner, McCain, McConnell, and Kasich were allowed to hijack it. Is there any real difference between them and Barack Hussein Obama?

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years.

You're where the republican party has NEVER been in this century. Where almost all Americans aren't. You're far right of even most republicans. And have nothing to do with moderates, liberals, or most independents.

And worse, you're intent on excluding any but the 'pure'. Exclusion and 'purity' aren't a recipe for a governing coallition. But for an inept fringe caucus.

I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

You genuinely can't see any difference between say, John Boehner and Barack Obama in terms of policy?

Wow. That tells us far more about you than it does about them.

What are the big differences in Boehner/Obama policies? Obama has gotten his entire agenda passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch. Where was the opposition?

There isn't any, and they just passed obama's budget, huge spending increases and all. That's why Boner is out and McConnell is in big trouble, and why Trump is doing so well. Conservatives are sick of it and there's big changes coming.

But don't expect a leftard to accept the facts, since they don't fit into their BS line of hyperbole.

Ha, and the traitors did it in the wee hours of the night. Now can Republicans stop worshipping Neocon/Progressive frauds like George Bush, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, John McCain and so on? Have they seen enough yet?

 

[Rustic]

I like him to an extent, but he's a RINO..... haven't we had enough of the RINO's?

When you add the Rino's to the Democrats, that is about 70% of the electorate. Why does the minority that call themselves conservative think they should govern when most Americans reject them?

If they get elected, they get to govern... the notion that the majority of people n this country are centrists, or worse, leftists, well, I don't see it. Trump and Carson are saying things that a lot of conservatives are saying, and it is resonating.... big time.

But you didn't get elected, and I'm basing that on all the bitching about RINO'S
Neither Trump nor Carson will be elected President.

Wow.. crystal ball's working overtime I see.

Sorry, there's a helluva lot more excitement over Trump and Carson then your seventy year old washed up has been and that nutbag Sanders. Look at Bush, he's a RINO, actually, probably a leftist... and he's failing miserably. The GOP swept you guys in the last two elections. Wll it happen next year? I dunno, but rule it out is absurd... Obama's been an unmitigated disaster, as has been these RINO's.

Excitement over Trump and Carson? By a minority of Republicans responding to polls. And you mistake amusement for excitement.

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

 

[Skylar]

But now that he questions or even thinks too hard about hard right policy....he's a communist.

The fringe right has a binary reasoning scheme. Either you accept ONLY what they believe. Or you're a communist.

So much for the big tent.

The libtard dictionary of synonyms: Fringe right = Traditional conservative platforms.

So 'traditional conservative platforms' exclude most republicans, all moderates and all liberals?

Please... listen to yourself and try not to sound too stupid.

TRADITIONALLY, the republican base is CONSERVATIVE... not moderate, and certainly not LIBERAL. Now the TRUE, TRADITIONAL, CONSERVATIVE BASE of the republican party is FED UP with this moderate horse crap, which basically means DEM LITE. They want the republican party to GET BACK to it's traditional CONSERVATIVE platforms, and that's what Trump, Carson and Cruz are doing, and that's why they're KILLING their "moderate" presidential competition.

What part about that are you missing? You been on a long vacation on another planet or something, or do you just enjoy regurgitating leftist BS?

"GET BACK to it's traditional CONSERVATIVE platforms" And in what years do you suppose the Republican party platform was more conservative than it is now? When Eisenhower ran? Nixon? Reagan or either Bush?

Irrelevant.

No, very relevant. As 'unprecedented' and 'traditional' are mutually exclusive.

 

[Rustic]

I think it was stand up stuff and I applaud him for doing what he did. I have a lot more respect for him now. The good thing about The Donald, he's making everybody come clean.

But now that he questions or even thinks too hard about hard right policy....he's a communist.

The fringe right has a binary reasoning scheme. Either you accept ONLY what they believe. Or you're a communist.

So much for the big tent.

The libtard dictionary of synonyms: Fringe right = Traditional conservative platforms.

So 'traditional conservative platforms' exclude most republicans, all moderates and all liberals?

Please... listen to yourself and try not to sound too stupid.

TRADITIONALLY, the republican base is CONSERVATIVE... not moderate, and certainly not LIBERAL.

Oh, I get that. But your version of a 'traditional republican base' doesn't even include most conservatives now. Most republicans are centered around about a .55 to .60 on the DW nominate scale. At or near that is where folks like Boehner, McConnel, Ryan, McCain and the like fall. This is the baseline for 'communists' offered by your ilk.

YOUR idea of 'traditional republican base' is the 'freedom caucus'. In the .95 to .97 range....on a scale of 0 to 1.

Some of the most extreme right wing scores ever seen in the history of congress.

And this is your baseline for 'conservative'. Your baseline has nothing to do with 'tradition'. It is exclusively the most extreme right wing positions. With every president in our century, including both Bushes and Reagan....falling outside your definition of 'conservative'.

That's how extreme your positions have become.

A moderate can never be trusted....

 

[paulitician]

Sounds like a typical whiny Communist/Progressive. What's happened to the 'Conservative Movement' is that frauds like Bush, Boehner, McCain, McConnell, and Kasich were allowed to hijack it. Is there any real difference between them and Barack Hussein Obama?

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years.

You're where the republican party has NEVER been in this century. Where almost all Americans aren't. You're far right of even most republicans. And have nothing to do with moderates, liberals, or most independents.

And worse, you're intent on excluding any but the 'pure'. Exclusion and 'purity' aren't a recipe for a governing coallition. But for an inept fringe caucus.

I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

You genuinely can't see any difference between say, John Boehner and Barack Obama in terms of policy?

Wow. That tells us far more about you than it does about them.

What are the big differences in Boehner/Obama policies? Obama has gotten his entire agenda passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch. Where was the opposition?

They differ wildly on taxes. With Boeher pushing for the maintenance of tax cuts for the wealthy, and even their expansion. While Obama wants the tax cuts centered around the middle class. And the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire.

There's one major policy difference you can't perceive. I don't think its a matter of willful ignorance. I think you genuinely can't see it. That there is only two sides of this to you: 'conservatives' and communists. And nothing in between.

With a conservative only being the most extreme fringe of the right wing.

The only part of this that's uncertain......is if you imagine that most people think like you do. Or dismiss almost all Americans as 'communists'.

Yet Boehner and McConnell have gone along with Obama's entire agenda. Name just one part of Obama's agenda that he hasn't gotten passed on their watch?

 

[Skylar]

When you add the Rino's to the Democrats, that is about 70% of the electorate. Why does the minority that call themselves conservative think they should govern when most Americans reject them?

If they get elected, they get to govern... the notion that the majority of people n this country are centrists, or worse, leftists, well, I don't see it. Trump and Carson are saying things that a lot of conservatives are saying, and it is resonating.... big time.

But you didn't get elected, and I'm basing that on all the bitching about RINO'S
Neither Trump nor Carson will be elected President.

Wow.. crystal ball's working overtime I see.

Sorry, there's a helluva lot more excitement over Trump and Carson then your seventy year old washed up has been and that nutbag Sanders. Look at Bush, he's a RINO, actually, probably a leftist... and he's failing miserably. The GOP swept you guys in the last two elections. Wll it happen next year? I dunno, but rule it out is absurd... Obama's been an unmitigated disaster, as has been these RINO's.

Excitement over Trump and Carson? By a minority of Republicans responding to polls. And you mistake amusement for excitement.

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

 

[Rustic]

I think it was stand up stuff and I applaud him for doing what he did. I have a lot more respect for him now. The good thing about The Donald, he's making everybody come clean.

But now that he questions or even thinks too hard about hard right policy....he's a communist.

The fringe right has a binary reasoning scheme. Either you accept ONLY what they believe. Or you're a communist.

So much for the big tent.

The libtard dictionary of synonyms: Fringe right = Traditional conservative platforms.

So 'traditional conservative platforms' exclude most republicans, all moderates and all liberals?

Please... listen to yourself and try not to sound too stupid.

TRADITIONALLY, the republican base is CONSERVATIVE... not moderate, and certainly not LIBERAL. Now the TRUE, TRADITIONAL, CONSERVATIVE BASE of the republican party is FED UP with this moderate horse crap, which basically means DEM LITE. They want the republican party to GET BACK to it's traditional CONSERVATIVE platforms, and that's what Trump, Carson and Cruz are doing, and that's why they're KILLING their "moderate" presidential competition.

What part about that are you missing? You been on a long vacation on another planet or something, or do you just enjoy regurgitating leftist BS?

"GET BACK to it's traditional CONSERVATIVE platforms" And in what years do you suppose the Republican party platform was more conservative than it is now? When Eisenhower ran? Nixon? Reagan or either Bush?

All progressives...

 

[Davros]

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years.

You're where the republican party has NEVER been in this century. Where almost all Americans aren't. You're far right of even most republicans. And have nothing to do with moderates, liberals, or most independents.

And worse, you're intent on excluding any but the 'pure'. Exclusion and 'purity' aren't a recipe for a governing coallition. But for an inept fringe caucus.

I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

You genuinely can't see any difference between say, John Boehner and Barack Obama in terms of policy?

Wow. That tells us far more about you than it does about them.

What are the big differences in Boehner/Obama policies? Obama has gotten his entire agenda passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch. Where was the opposition?

They differ wildly on taxes. With Boeher pushing for the maintenance of tax cuts for the wealthy, and even their expansion. While Obama wants the tax cuts centered around the middle class. And the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire.

There's one major policy difference you can't perceive. I don't think its a matter of willful ignorance. I think you genuinely can't see it. That there is only two sides of this to you: 'conservatives' and communists. And nothing in between.

With a conservative only being the most extreme fringe of the right wing.

The only part of this that's uncertain......is if you imagine that most people think like you do. Or dismiss almost all Americans as 'communists'.

Yet Boehner and McConnell have gone along with Obama's entire agenda. Name just one part of Obama's agenda that he hasn't gotten passed on their watch?

Raising the marginal tax rates.

 

[Rustic]

Sounds like a typical whiny Communist/Progressive. What's happened to the 'Conservative Movement' is that frauds like Bush, Boehner, McCain, McConnell, and Kasich were allowed to hijack it. Is there any real difference between them and Barack Hussein Obama?

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years.

You're where the republican party has NEVER been in this century. Where almost all Americans aren't. You're far right of even most republicans. And have nothing to do with moderates, liberals, or most independents.

And worse, you're intent on excluding any but the 'pure'. Exclusion and 'purity' aren't a recipe for a governing coallition. But for an inept fringe caucus.

I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

You genuinely can't see any difference between say, John Boehner and Barack Obama in terms of policy?

Wow. That tells us far more about you than it does about them.

What are the big differences in Boehner/Obama policies? Obama has gotten his entire agenda passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch. Where was the opposition?

They differ wildly on taxes. With Boeher pushing for the maintenance of tax cuts for the wealthy, and even their expansion. While Obama wants the tax cuts centered around the middle class. And the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire.

There's one major policy difference you can't perceive. I don't think its a matter of willful ignorance. I think you genuinely can't see it. That there is only two sides of this to you: 'conservatives' and communists. And nothing in between.

With a conservative only being the most extreme fringe of the right wing.

The only part of this that's uncertain......is if you imagine that most people think like you do. Or dismiss almost all Americans as 'communists'.

The smoke and mirrors tricked you, there is no difference.

 

[Davros]

But now that he questions or even thinks too hard about hard right policy....he's a communist.

The fringe right has a binary reasoning scheme. Either you accept ONLY what they believe. Or you're a communist.

So much for the big tent.

The libtard dictionary of synonyms: Fringe right = Traditional conservative platforms.

So 'traditional conservative platforms' exclude most republicans, all moderates and all liberals?

Please... listen to yourself and try not to sound too stupid.

TRADITIONALLY, the republican base is CONSERVATIVE... not moderate, and certainly not LIBERAL. Now the TRUE, TRADITIONAL, CONSERVATIVE BASE of the republican party is FED UP with this moderate horse crap, which basically means DEM LITE. They want the republican party to GET BACK to it's traditional CONSERVATIVE platforms, and that's what Trump, Carson and Cruz are doing, and that's why they're KILLING their "moderate" presidential competition.

What part about that are you missing? You been on a long vacation on another planet or something, or do you just enjoy regurgitating leftist BS?

"GET BACK to it's traditional CONSERVATIVE platforms" And in what years do you suppose the Republican party platform was more conservative than it is now? When Eisenhower ran? Nixon? Reagan or either Bush?

All progressives...

So your side is fringe wackos who will never be in charge.

 

[paulitician]

If they get elected, they get to govern... the notion that the majority of people n this country are centrists, or worse, leftists, well, I don't see it. Trump and Carson are saying things that a lot of conservatives are saying, and it is resonating.... big time.

But you didn't get elected, and I'm basing that on all the bitching about RINO'S
Neither Trump nor Carson will be elected President.

Wow.. crystal ball's working overtime I see.

Sorry, there's a helluva lot more excitement over Trump and Carson then your seventy year old washed up has been and that nutbag Sanders. Look at Bush, he's a RINO, actually, probably a leftist... and he's failing miserably. The GOP swept you guys in the last two elections. Wll it happen next year? I dunno, but rule it out is absurd... Obama's been an unmitigated disaster, as has been these RINO's.

Excitement over Trump and Carson? By a minority of Republicans responding to polls. And you mistake amusement for excitement.

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

Actually, most Americans support lower taxes, balanced budgets, and secured borders. It's too bad the Republican Party got hijacked by Neocon/Progressive assholes. It's time to clean house.

 

[Skylar]

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years.

You're where the republican party has NEVER been in this century. Where almost all Americans aren't. You're far right of even most republicans. And have nothing to do with moderates, liberals, or most independents.

And worse, you're intent on excluding any but the 'pure'. Exclusion and 'purity' aren't a recipe for a governing coallition. But for an inept fringe caucus.

I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

You genuinely can't see any difference between say, John Boehner and Barack Obama in terms of policy?

Wow. That tells us far more about you than it does about them.

What are the big differences in Boehner/Obama policies? Obama has gotten his entire agenda passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch. Where was the opposition?

They differ wildly on taxes. With Boeher pushing for the maintenance of tax cuts for the wealthy, and even their expansion. While Obama wants the tax cuts centered around the middle class. And the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire.

There's one major policy difference you can't perceive. I don't think its a matter of willful ignorance. I think you genuinely can't see it. That there is only two sides of this to you: 'conservatives' and communists. And nothing in between.

With a conservative only being the most extreme fringe of the right wing.

The only part of this that's uncertain......is if you imagine that most people think like you do. Or dismiss almost all Americans as 'communists'.

Yet Boehner and McConnell have gone along with Obama's entire agenda. Name just one part of Obama's agenda that he hasn't gotten passed on their watch?

No, they haven't. They've compromised with him. With Obama conceding on some of the extensions of the tax cuts for the wealthy and spending cuts....and Boehner compromising on UI extensions and funding for the rest of the federal government.

You're perception of a 'real conservative' is one who doesn't compromise. Who doesn't take into account any other view, any other need. Who pushes through their ideology pure and unaltered. But you lack the numbers in congress to push through your agenda unilaterally.

What then do you do?

The 'real conservative' can do nothing. As he's been effectively rendered impotent and powerless. As without the ability to push through his ideologue vision unaltered by any other view or need.......he can't vote for anything that can pass.

And its the stark refusal to acknowledge MATH that has resulted in the 'freedom caucus' enacting virtually none of their proposals. Where if they'd been willing to compromise, they'd have been able to enact some of them. And have resulted in some of the lowest approval ratings for congress in polling history.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Holy crap, so much for Kasich. I've been saying a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be the GOP's strongest, but that's history: Kasich lashes out: ‘What has happened to the conservative movement?’

I think this stuff makes him a Marxist/communist/socialist:

"I've about had it with these people," Kasich said at the rally in Westerville, Ohio. "We got one candidate that says we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our people in this country who are seniors, who are about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has acknowledged that he would like to gut Medicare.

Kasich went on, saying, "We got one person saying we ought to have a 10 percent flat tax that will drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars" and there's another challenger in the field "says we ought to take 10 or 11 people and pick them up — I don't know where we're going to go, their homes, their apartments — we're going to pick them up and scream at them to get out of our country. That's crazy. That is just crazy."

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

"We got people proposing healthcare reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance," Kasich says. "What has happened to our party? What has happened the conservative movement?"

.

Are you being sarcastic? Those comments and his reasonableness and rational approach is what will make him the most formidable opponent for the democrats. A Kasich-Rubio ticket is the best chance Republicans have to win the Whitehouse. The far right views of most of the rest of the field are not where most Americans are.

Yes. He was being sarcastic. Had he wanted to make a solid point, he would have excoriated the GOP field. Instead, he just left it there.....allowing him to maintain his game.

 

[Davros]

But you didn't get elected, and I'm basing that on all the bitching about RINO'S
Neither Trump nor Carson will be elected President.

Wow.. crystal ball's working overtime I see.

Sorry, there's a helluva lot more excitement over Trump and Carson then your seventy year old washed up has been and that nutbag Sanders. Look at Bush, he's a RINO, actually, probably a leftist... and he's failing miserably. The GOP swept you guys in the last two elections. Wll it happen next year? I dunno, but rule it out is absurd... Obama's been an unmitigated disaster, as has been these RINO's.

Excitement over Trump and Carson? By a minority of Republicans responding to polls. And you mistake amusement for excitement.

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

Actually, most Americans support lower taxes, balanced budgets, and secured borders. It's too bad the Republican Party got hijacked by Neocon/Progressive assholes. It's time to clean house.

So what? Most Americans support Medicare and Medicaid too. Most Americans want to have their cake and eat it too. Sane politicians realize tough choices have to be made that will be largely unpopular.

 

[paulitician]

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years.

You're where the republican party has NEVER been in this century. Where almost all Americans aren't. You're far right of even most republicans. And have nothing to do with moderates, liberals, or most independents.

And worse, you're intent on excluding any but the 'pure'. Exclusion and 'purity' aren't a recipe for a governing coallition. But for an inept fringe caucus.

I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

You genuinely can't see any difference between say, John Boehner and Barack Obama in terms of policy?

Wow. That tells us far more about you than it does about them.

What are the big differences in Boehner/Obama policies? Obama has gotten his entire agenda passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch. Where was the opposition?

They differ wildly on taxes. With Boeher pushing for the maintenance of tax cuts for the wealthy, and even their expansion. While Obama wants the tax cuts centered around the middle class. And the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire.

There's one major policy difference you can't perceive. I don't think its a matter of willful ignorance. I think you genuinely can't see it. That there is only two sides of this to you: 'conservatives' and communists. And nothing in between.

With a conservative only being the most extreme fringe of the right wing.

The only part of this that's uncertain......is if you imagine that most people think like you do. Or dismiss almost all Americans as 'communists'.

Yet Boehner and McConnell have gone along with Obama's entire agenda. Name just one part of Obama's agenda that he hasn't gotten passed on their watch?

No, they haven't. They've compromised with him. With Obama conceding on some of the extensions of the tax cuts for the wealthy and spending cuts....and Boehner compromising on UI extensions and funding for the rest of the federal government.

You're perception of a 'real conservative' is one who doesn't compromise. Who doesn't take into account any other view, any other need. Who pushes through their ideology pure and unaltered. But you lack the numbers in congress to push through your agenda unilaterally.

What then do you do?

The 'real conservative' can do nothing. As he's been effectively rendered impotent and powerless. As without the ability to push through his ideologue vision unaltered by any other view or need.......he can't vote for anything that can pass.

And its the stark refusal to acknowledge MATH that has resulted in the 'freedom caucus' enacting virtually none of their proposals. Where if they'd been willing to compromise, they'd have been able to enact some of them. And have resulted in some of the lowest approval ratings for congress in polling history.

So which part of Obama's agenda hasn't he gotten passed on Boehner and McConnell's watch? I'm all ears.

 

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But you didn't get elected, and I'm basing that on all the bitching about RINO'S
Neither Trump nor Carson will be elected President.

Wow.. crystal ball's working overtime I see.

Sorry, there's a helluva lot more excitement over Trump and Carson then your seventy year old washed up has been and that nutbag Sanders. Look at Bush, he's a RINO, actually, probably a leftist... and he's failing miserably. The GOP swept you guys in the last two elections. Wll it happen next year? I dunno, but rule it out is absurd... Obama's been an unmitigated disaster, as has been these RINO's.

Excitement over Trump and Carson? By a minority of Republicans responding to polls. And you mistake amusement for excitement.

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

Actually, most Americans support lower taxes, balanced budgets, and secured borders. It's too bad the Republican Party got hijacked by Neocon/Progressive assholes. It's time to clean house.

No, they do not. They support higher taxes on the wealthy; they support deficit spending when necessary and they overwhelmingly support a path to citizenship or permanent residency for the 11 million you refer to as illegal aliens.