Keeping guns from criminals - liberals, what is your plan?

[JoeB131]

Oh, yeah, Retarded Gummery Sergeant, I noticed you completely avoided my comparison of background checks to airport security.

I wonder why?

How EXACTLY would you change background checks? the failure so far has been that local authorities fail to do their jobs? Not that the system doesn't work.

Thought so. Gotta go to my doctor appointment maybe when I get back you will have answered.

Yeah, make sure he adjusts your meds again. They don't seem to be working today.

 

[JoeB131]

yaaa liarberals what is your plan, idea or scheme to keep criminals from obtaining guns ? disarm the law abiding citizens and hope the criminals will reform themselves ??

Criminals have guns because everyone else does.

Take away private gun ownership, the criminals won't be able to get them, either.

 

[martybegan]

Oh, yeah, Retarded Gummery Sergeant, I noticed you completely avoided my comparison of background checks to airport security.

I wonder why?

How EXACTLY would you change background checks? the failure so far has been that local authorities fail to do their jobs? Not that the system doesn't work.

1) Require you to list three personal references, just like you would if you applied for a job.

2) Create a national database to record ALL incidents involving guns.

3) Hold gun sellers responsible for the actions committed by their customers.

Here was the thing. When the DC Sniper went on his rampage, his victims sued both the manufacturer and the gun shop. After that, the manufacturer put in a bunch of additional rules to background check people. The DC Sniper had a criminal background and his partner was a minor. Neither one should have been allowed to buy a gun, but they did anyway.

Instead, the NRA went to Congress and got a law passed to immunize gun sellers from lawsuits.

Apply three personal references to your right to free speech then.

A right is a right, and is not dependent on finding people who like you. Also it allows discretion on the part of the government who can then just choose to disallow you your right because they feel like it.

And, as always, go fuck yourself.

 

[martybegan]

yaaa liarberals what is your plan, idea or scheme to keep criminals from obtaining guns ? disarm the law abiding citizens and hope the criminals will reform themselves ??

Criminals have guns because everyone else does.

Take away private gun ownership, the criminals won't be able to get them, either.

LOLOLOLOL.

Beacuse no one has the ability to use machine tools to make one if they really wanted one....

Hey!! if we ban meth ownership no one will be able to make meth!!!!

 

[JoeB131]

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Apply three personal references to your right to free speech then.

A right is a right, and is not dependent on finding people who like you. Also it allows discretion on the part of the government who can then just choose to disallow you your right because they feel like it.

And, as always, go fuck yourself.

There are no rights, only privilages.

One less knuckledragger on the Supreme Court, and the Second Amendment is about Militias again.

 

[JoeB131]

yaaa liarberals what is your plan, idea or scheme to keep criminals from obtaining guns ? disarm the law abiding citizens and hope the criminals will reform themselves ??

Criminals have guns because everyone else does.

Take away private gun ownership, the criminals won't be able to get them, either.

LOLOLOLOL.

Beacuse no one has the ability to use machine tools to make one if they really wanted one....

Hey!! if we ban meth ownership no one will be able to make meth!!!!

Considering how many people are doing hard time for having meth labs, I'd happily take that route.

Guy, you need to stop mistaking "Breaking Bad" for reality.

 

[martybegan]

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Apply three personal references to your right to free speech then.

A right is a right, and is not dependent on finding people who like you. Also it allows discretion on the part of the government who can then just choose to disallow you your right because they feel like it.

And, as always, go fuck yourself.

There are no rights, only privilages.

One less knuckledragger on the Supreme Court, and the Second Amendment is about Militias again.

Fuck you, you fascist asshole. There are rights, and if needed people will fight for them. Its happened before, it will happen again if mouthbreathing totalitarians like yourself ever take power.

The 2nd is only partially about militas, the main part is THE PEOPLE keep the right to bear arms. The STATES have the right to form militas using those armed people. IF the state does not want to call up the milita, its thier right, however the PEOPLE keep the right to arms.

 

[martybegan]

Criminals have guns because everyone else does.

Take away private gun ownership, the criminals won't be able to get them, either.

LOLOLOLOL.

Beacuse no one has the ability to use machine tools to make one if they really wanted one....

Hey!! if we ban meth ownership no one will be able to make meth!!!!

Considering how many people are doing hard time for having meth labs, I'd happily take that route.

Guy, you need to stop mistaking "Breaking Bad" for reality.

And how many people are getting away with them cleanly???

Yet again you are too stupid to get the point.

 

[Wildman]

Hold gun sellers responsible for the actions committed by their customers.

hey ! great idea, maybe we should enact the same policy towards automobiles, bars and liqueur stores, manufacturers of kitchen stoves..., WoW ! this could end up being the greatest life saver since "Life Savers"

 

[JoeB131]

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Apply three personal references to your right to free speech then.

A right is a right, and is not dependent on finding people who like you. Also it allows discretion on the part of the government who can then just choose to disallow you your right because they feel like it.

And, as always, go fuck yourself.

There are no rights, only privilages.

One less knuckledragger on the Supreme Court, and the Second Amendment is about Militias again.

Fuck you, you fascist asshole. There are rights, and if needed people will fight for them. Its happened before, it will happen again if mouthbreathing totalitarians like yourself ever take power.

The 2nd is only partially about militas, the main part is THE PEOPLE keep the right to bear arms. The STATES have the right to form militas using those armed people. IF the state does not want to call up the milita, its thier right, however the PEOPLE keep the right to arms.

Or the people decide they want ONLY the militia to have guns, and not NRA nutbags who cream their jeans at the thought of shooting at police just doing their jobs.

You guys are in the minority, and you can only bully the rest of us for so long before we stop putting up with it.

 

[JoeB131]

Hold gun sellers responsible for the actions committed by their customers.

hey ! great idea, maybe we should enact the same policy towards automobiles, bars and liqueur stores, manufacturers of kitchen stoves..., WoW ! this could end up being the greatest life saver since "Life Savers"

We already do.

Bars can be held liable if they overserve a customer and he goes out and kill someone in a DUI incident.

 

[martybegan]

There are no rights, only privilages.

One less knuckledragger on the Supreme Court, and the Second Amendment is about Militias again.

Fuck you, you fascist asshole. There are rights, and if needed people will fight for them. Its happened before, it will happen again if mouthbreathing totalitarians like yourself ever take power.

The 2nd is only partially about militas, the main part is THE PEOPLE keep the right to bear arms. The STATES have the right to form militas using those armed people. IF the state does not want to call up the milita, its thier right, however the PEOPLE keep the right to arms.

Or the people decide they want ONLY the militia to have guns, and not NRA nutbags who cream their jeans at the thought of shooting at police just doing their jobs.

You guys are in the minority, and you can only bully the rest of us for so long before we stop putting up with it.

1st, our position is not the minority, your total gun ban position is a SMALL SMALL minority, because most people are not mouth breathing idiots like you.

Second, the whole idea of a consitutional right is that it takes 2/3 of congress and 3/4 of the states to remove said right. If you get that much support, good luck, until then go pound sand.

 

[JoeB131]

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1st, our position is not the minority, your total gun ban position is a SMALL SMALL minority, because most people are not mouth breathing idiots like you.

Second, the whole idea of a consitutional right is that it takes 2/3 of congress and 3/4 of the states to remove said right. If you get that much support, good luck, until then go pound sand.

Most people support stronger gun laws... Sorry, man.

Polling Center: Americans overwhelmingly approve of background checks for gun purchases - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

 

[JoeB131]

From that poll.

Do you favor or oppose background checks on potential gun buyers?


Favor 94%

Oppose 6%

 

[JoeB131]

Do you think there should be restrictions on owning guns in the United States?


Minor restrictions 36%

Major restrictions 34%

No restrictions 14%

Make all guns illegal 14%

 

[martybegan]

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1st, our position is not the minority, your total gun ban position is a SMALL SMALL minority, because most people are not mouth breathing idiots like you.

Second, the whole idea of a consitutional right is that it takes 2/3 of congress and 3/4 of the states to remove said right. If you get that much support, good luck, until then go pound sand.

Most people support stronger gun laws... Sorry, man.

Polling Center: Americans overwhelmingly approve of background checks for gun purchases - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

Polls with typical weasel words that dont really tell you what they really want done.

Everyone of course wants "stronger background checks", however add the points you want, references, waiting periods, etc, and the % who want it will drop significantly

Polls mean nothing. Votes mean something, and the voters in most places throw gun grabbers out on thier asses. Colorado, for example.

 

[JoeB131]

Do you favor or oppose a ban on semi-automatic assault guns?


Favor 61%

Oppose 37%

 

[martybegan]

Do you think there should be restrictions on owning guns in the United States?


Minor restrictions 36%

Major restrictions 34%

No restrictions 14%

Make all guns illegal 14%

Considering you need 66% of congress and 75% of the states to get "major restrictions" those numbers mean squat.

And again, polls are useless, because the way you ask the question contributes to the answer.

 

[JoeB131]

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Polls mean nothing. Votes mean something, and the voters in most places throw gun grabbers out on thier asses. Colorado, for example.

Two backwater CO districts in an off-year election is not "most places".

How about this. Why don't we put all the proposed gun restrictions on a national ballot, and see what gun ownership actually looks like afterwards.

Both sides agree to abide by the results for 10 years.

 

[martybegan]

Do you favor or oppose a ban on semi-automatic assault guns?


Favor 61%

Oppose 37%

Most people who read this think they are banning machine guns.

Ask "should semi-automatic rifles be banned" and the number goes down.

Ask "should rifles be banned?" and it goes down even further.

But keep relying on weasely crap like this.

Polls, LOL.