Kelsey Grammer: Reproductive rights is dishonest name for abortion

[BS Filter]

Perhaps you should be gassed in an oven. No one here cares.

So you're a hypocrite, in other words. Nice. Good to have the obvious confirmed for me yet again.

Okay, I'm a hypocrite. You're a lying filthy piece of trash. Anything else?

So edgy. How old are you, kid? Do your parents know you're talking that way to strangers online?

Go to hell, you filthy baby killer.

What are you talking about, little kid? I haven't killed anyone. I just believe in minding my own fucking business, unlike you retard control freaks.

You said it yourself; you don't care about life. So what's the only motivation left? Power and control. That's all it ever was.

Show the post where I said "I don't care about life". Go ahead. Lying sack of shit.

 

[John Shaw]

So you're a hypocrite, in other words. Nice. Good to have the obvious confirmed for me yet again.

Okay, I'm a hypocrite. You're a lying filthy piece of trash. Anything else?

So edgy. How old are you, kid? Do your parents know you're talking that way to strangers online?

Go to hell, you filthy baby killer.

What are you talking about, little kid? I haven't killed anyone. I just believe in minding my own fucking business, unlike you retard control freaks.

You said it yourself; you don't care about life. So what's the only motivation left? Power and control. That's all it ever was.

Show the post where I said "I don't care about life". Go ahead. Lying sack of shit.

Here's the thing about pro-life people that I don't understand.

Why ... the fuck ... do you care so much? It's not your life. It's not your problem.

Perhaps you should be gassed in an oven. No one here cares.

Yep. There's that famous regard for human life that I hear regularly from the "pro-life" crowd. That was like 10 minutes ago, by the way. Exactly how shit is your memory?

Or is it only people who call your beliefs into question that you feel should be killed? Hmm ...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

What is so bad about owning your own opinion? Be honest. You support killing babies and don't see anything wrong with selling their body parts. Don't dress it up into something pallative. Own it.

The opinion of an alcoholic and drug abuser? What's wrong with you?

They can still be responsible for their own opinions.

 

[BS Filter]

Okay, I'm a hypocrite. You're a lying filthy piece of trash. Anything else?

So edgy. How old are you, kid? Do your parents know you're talking that way to strangers online?

Go to hell, you filthy baby killer.

What are you talking about, little kid? I haven't killed anyone. I just believe in minding my own fucking business, unlike you retard control freaks.

You said it yourself; you don't care about life. So what's the only motivation left? Power and control. That's all it ever was.

Show the post where I said "I don't care about life". Go ahead. Lying sack of shit.

Here's the thing about pro-life people that I don't understand.

Why ... the fuck ... do you care so much? It's not your life. It's not your problem.

Perhaps you should be gassed in an oven. No one here cares.

Yep. There's that famous regard for human life that I hear regularly from the "pro-life" crowd. That was like 10 minutes ago, by the way. Exactly how shit is your memory?

Or is it only people who call your beliefs into question that you feel should be killed? Hmm ...

Show the post where you claim I said I don't care about life. Do it, liar.

 

[John Shaw]

So edgy. How old are you, kid? Do your parents know you're talking that way to strangers online?

Go to hell, you filthy baby killer.

What are you talking about, little kid? I haven't killed anyone. I just believe in minding my own fucking business, unlike you retard control freaks.

You said it yourself; you don't care about life. So what's the only motivation left? Power and control. That's all it ever was.

Show the post where I said "I don't care about life". Go ahead. Lying sack of shit.

Here's the thing about pro-life people that I don't understand.

Why ... the fuck ... do you care so much? It's not your life. It's not your problem.

Perhaps you should be gassed in an oven. No one here cares.

Yep. There's that famous regard for human life that I hear regularly from the "pro-life" crowd. That was like 10 minutes ago, by the way. Exactly how shit is your memory?

Or is it only people who call your beliefs into question that you feel should be killed? Hmm ...

Show the post where you claim I said I don't care about life. Do it, liar.

You advocated for me to be "gassed in an oven". I think that's more than sufficient.

You're ... pretty bad at this, by the way. Maybe you should step away from the computer. Give your one cluster of brain cells some time to recharge.

 

[playtime]

so basically you don't care since they aren't your responsibility.... after the cord is cut, then the kid is no longer a concern.


got it.

You don't care about them when they're in the womb, why do you care about them when their parents use them for illegal entry?

i care about the choice a pregnant female makes regarding her own body. i certainly care once the decision is made to go full term & that they thrive once born.

A human embro isn't part of a woman's body. The human fetus is a separate human being. Did you ever take a science class?

but cannot survive without her uterus, blood, nutrition.... until it can, then to you- she is just a host & incubator.

To you the human being isn't a human. What about a human being in the hospital after surgery that is given a blood transfusion, fed through a feeding tube and given oxygen? Are they viable human beings?

silly you.... follow the bouncing ball....... i said it b4 & i'll say it again... the female gets to decide, except when a fetus is viable outside the womb ...until then, nobody but her gets to decide.

BUT i also added that the pregnant female who has been part of the human community , has a life history... life experiences - gets the final decision. you couldn't figure out that is extended to anybody post born? however, medical intervention to save a post born life is not what we are talking about.

BUT should anybody who makes the decision to end themselves because the rest of their life will be nothing but pain & disease should also get a physician's help in that decision, without fear of big bad government intrusion.

 

[playtime]

you're welcome.

 

[BS Filter]

You don't care about them when they're in the womb, why do you care about them when their parents use them for illegal entry?

i care about the choice a pregnant female makes regarding her own body. i certainly care once the decision is made to go full term & that they thrive once born.

A human embro isn't part of a woman's body. The human fetus is a separate human being. Did you ever take a science class?

but cannot survive without her uterus, blood, nutrition.... until it can, then to you- she is just a host & incubator.

To you the human being isn't a human. What about a human being in the hospital after surgery that is given a blood transfusion, fed through a feeding tube and given oxygen? Are they viable human beings?

silly you.... follow the bouncing ball....... i said it b4 & i'll say it again... the female gets to decide, except when a fetus is viable outside the womb ...until then, nobody but her gets to decide.

BUT i also added that the pregnant female who has been part of the human community , has a life history... life experiences - gets the final decision. you couldn't figure out that is extended to anybody post born? however, medical intervention to save a post born life is not what we are talking about.

BUT should anybody who makes the decision to end themselves because the rest of their life will be nothing but pain & disease should also get a physician's help in that decision, without fear of big bad government intrusion.

They're a human being, regardless of your definition of what's viable or not. You still didn't answer about a person after surgery. You're position is very weak. Killing innocent defenseless human beings is always a position of weakness.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Kelsey Grammer: Reproductive Rights Is a ‘Dishonest’ Name for Abortion

He's right! Its called baby murder. I want one of those shirts!

We knew that trumpanzees wanted to take away birth control too.

How are they taking away birth control?

By refusing to pay for it. Remember Sandra Fluke? She demanded that congress pay for her bc.

Here's what she really said.....so lie on..
These denials of contraceptive coverage impact real people. In the worst cases, women who need this medication for other medical reasons suffer very dire consequences. A friend of mine, for example, has polycystic ovarian syndrome, and she has to take prescription birth control to stop cysts from growing on her ovaries. Her prescription is technically covered by Georgetown's insurance, because it's not intended to prevent pregnancy. Unfortunately, under many religious institutions' insurance plans, it wouldn't be. There would be no exception for other medical needs. And under Senator Blunt's amendment, Senator Rubio's bill or Representative Fortenberry's bill, there's no requirement that such an exception be made for these medical needs.

Wrong...We made the argument that things like that can be used for other purposes, birth control and Viaagra(is this really a banned word) treat real medical problems and should be covered for that, but that's not what Fluke said. It's only part, she was advocated for birth control for reducing pregnancy even more so than a quick anecdote she put out. Stop lying about it, Omission is just as much a lie and stating an incorrect fact.


stories. . On a daily basis, I hear from yet another


woman from Georgetown or other schools or who works for a religiously

affiliated employer who has suffered financial, emotional, and medical burdens

because of this lack of contraceptive coverage.


Without insurance coverage, contraception can cost a woman over $3,000 during


law school. For a lot of students who, like me, are on public interest scholarships,

that’s practically an entire summer’s salary. Forty percent of female students at

Georgetown Law report struggling financially as a result of this policy. One told

us of how embarrassed and powerless she felt when she was standing at the

pharmacy counter, learning for the first time that contraception wasn’t covered,

and had to walk away because she couldn’t afford it. Women like her have no

choice but to go without contraception. Just last week, a married female student

told me she had to stop using contraception because she couldn’t afford it any

longer. Women employed in low wage jobs without contraceptive coverage face

the same choice.


These denials of contraceptive coverage impact real people. In the worst cases,


women who need this medication for other medical reasons suffer dire

consequences. A friend of mine, for example, has polycystic ovarian syndrome

and has to take prescription birth control to stop cysts from growing on her ovaries.

Her prescription is technically covered by Georgetown insurance because it’s not

intended to prevent pregnancy. Under many religious institutions’ insurance plans,

it wouldn’t be, and under Senator Blunt’s amendment, Senator Rubio’s bill, or

Representative Fortenberry’s bill, there’s no requirement that an exception be

made for such medical needs. When they do exist, these exceptions don’t

accomplish their well-intended goals because when you let university

administrators or other employers, rather than women and their doctors, dictate

whose medical needs are legitimate and whose aren’t, a woman’s health takes a

back seat to a bureaucracy focused on policing her body.



https://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/statement-Congress-letterhead-2nd hearing.pdf

 

[buckeye45_73]

Aborting an 8 week old fetus is NOT "killing innocent children," no matter how many times you say it. And, those on the trains were already born. BIG difference!

Bullshit Moon Bat.

You are doing to American children just like the Nazis did to the Jews. You are dehumanizing them. Shame on you!

save the dramatics. taking away a woman's autonomy, & literally forcing her to become an incubator against her will is the epitome of dehumanization.

your reply shows how you care about 'children'.... as long as they are american.

Liberals are the biggest assholes on the face of the earth. No morals, no intelligence and crazy as hell.

Says the asshole who wants all babies born but doesn’t want to lift a finger to help those who can’t afford to have a baby

Sorry Moon Bat but it is my responsibility as a human to stop the murder of a child. It is the parents responsibility to provide for the child's well being. Do you understand the difference? Probably not. Liberals are like the dumbest and most confused mutherfuckers on the face of the earth, aren't you?

Is it the responsibility of the divers in Thailand to provide for the welfare of the children they are saving? I don't think so. Maybe you socialist assholes do but not real people.

Just out of curiosity, what do you do to stop women from having a legal abortion? You sound unhinged and dangerous and delusional because you keep referring to abortion as murder and infanticide, which it is neither. It is a perfectly legal medical procedure that you have no legal right to interfere with, and hopefully if you cross that legal line, you will find your ass in jail.


ETA: I'm still trying to figure this site out and replied to the wrong person. I meant this reply for Flash.

You sound unhinged and dangerous and delusional because you keep referring to abortion as murder and infanticide, which it is neither.

It is both.... you have to bend yourself into a pretzel to make believe that what you are killing isn't human...

Both definitions refer to already born humans and not an 8 week old fetus. You're the one bending yourself into a pretzel, The courts have declared it a legal procedure, so go blow your false indignation out your ass!

So what is your definition? Birth? So a husband/boyfriend who doesn't want a kid can punch a women causing a miscarriage and you're cool with that?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Kelsey Grammer is a dishonest name for a "good actor".

Interesting how when an actual good actor who is universally respected DeNiro says "fuck trump"...it's "he's just an actor"
When Kelsey Grammer who is much less respected and a marginal television actor at best says something, it gains traction.

The difference is DeNiro was being an ass, Grammar didn't attack anyone personally. He was all class and gave his opinion on an issue. you lefties are really like children, you don't see any nuance to any subject.....

 

[buckeye45_73]

The answer is simple. Women who need medication for a medical condition get it covered. Women who don't have any medical condition don't get it covered. Wannafuck is not painful nor life threatening.

But, in this case, her friend's BC wasn't covered because there were no exceptions. That's why she was testifying to begin with. Also, if the blue pill is covered by insurance, then why isn't birth control? Is it more important for an impotent man to get a boner than it is for a woman to avoid getting pregnant? Oh wait! Of course it is!!! How silly of me to not know that!
One more thing bucko.....did you know that many men/boys want their pregnant girlfriends/wives to have an abortion and many actually force them to have one? Many of their parents will even offer to pay for it. On the woman's site I belonged to, this was brought up many times. and why you ask? Because those so-called "men" don't want the financial burden that comes with fathering a kid.

The blue boner pills treat heart disease. No one ever paid for my birth control and I don't want to pay for someone else's birth control. For the most part abortion is an elective surgery and I don't want to be paying for the nose job or new boobs. Have as many abortions as you want. It's killing babies. Just be honest and admit that you're okay with baby killing as long as you can use another word to describe it.

Insurance paying for birth control isn't you paying for it. Are you that stupid? When I was young, my insurance didn't pay for mine either. I worked for a major airline and we had great coverage, well, all except for covering birth control. So, all of us young women had to pay for it ourselves. Back then, a woman couldn't get her tubes tied without her husband's consent. She couldn't get a loan in her name, buy a car in her name, or a house, or just about any other thing a man could do. I bought my first house alone because I was single and my Savings and Loan wasn't like some banks. And, because I had excellent credit too. Back then, a man with shitty credit could get loans and mortgages faster than women with excellent credit could.
I don't know how old you are, but I assume you're a woman. If so, are you okay with the way the men who are running this country are trying to "keep us in our place?" Are you?

There aren't any men running anything in my life. After my divorce in 1976 I had to get my exes consent to get a JC Penny credit card.

Women want to run their lives, good. Pay for it like I did.

As far as I can tell, women in pussy hats and vagina suits aren't doing any better than the most foolish of foolish men.

I was never one of those, so please don't lump me into that group.
One of my dearest friend's husband had an accident and was paralyzed from the neck down. Someone pushed him into the pool in the complex they lived in. He hit the bottom and it severed his spinal cord at the base of his neck. They were living in the DC area at the time. They moved back to PA where he was from and she needed to get credit to buy a car and rent an apartment. It required his signature. By then, he was so cynical that he refused. Her parents had to do it instead. That was in the 70's. I wouldn't want to go back to that time for anything, would you? We were still considered "property" back then.
Do you want to make the women of today property too where they need a man's permission to have a medical procedure done? Yes, the procedure is an abortion, but as I've stated many time before, it's none of our business why she is having it, and the decision should only be between her and her doctor.

Yes I do, because it's the man's kid as well. And it's a human being. If you don't want to have a kid, you have other options, birth control, adoption, closing your legs.......I mean life is not that hard.

 

[Dschrute3]

Pro-Choice Democrats refuse to accept the fact you are killing a baby when you decide on Abortion. They feel better glossing over that fact, by calling it 'Reproductive Rights' and 'Pro-Choice. It's their form of absolution. If they don't talk about what it really is, they don't have to face it.

So, they run around the country throwing 'joyous' rallies, railing against those 'Evil Republicans.' It's another way they can absolve themselves from committing a heinous act. If you just keep screeching about the 'Evil-Doers' on the other side, you can distract yourself from facing up to what you've done. It's a smoke screen. There should never be 'joyous' celebration rallies. Killing a baby is nothing to celebrate. Pro-Choice Democrats need to start being more honest about what Abortion really is. But they can only do that when they start being honest with themselves.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Pro-Choice Democrats refuse to accept the fact you are killing a baby when you decide on Abortion. They feel better glossing over that fact, by calling it 'Reproductive Rights' and 'Pro-Choice. It's their form of absolution. If they don't talk about what it really is, they don't have to face it.

So, they run around the country throwing 'joyous' rallies, railing against those 'Evil Republicans.' It's another way they can absolve themselves from committing a heinous act. If you just keep screeching about the 'Evil-Doers' on the other side, you can distract yourself from facing up to what you've done. It's a smoke screen. There should never be 'joyous' celebration rallies. Killing a baby is nothing to celebrate. Pro-Choice Democrats need to start being more honest about what Abortion really is. But they can only do that when they start being honest with themselves.

Yeah I agree, the joke is the only thing Democrats are pro choice on is abortion......

 

[playtime]

i care about the choice a pregnant female makes regarding her own body. i certainly care once the decision is made to go full term & that they thrive once born.

A human embro isn't part of a woman's body. The human fetus is a separate human being. Did you ever take a science class?

but cannot survive without her uterus, blood, nutrition.... until it can, then to you- she is just a host & incubator.

To you the human being isn't a human. What about a human being in the hospital after surgery that is given a blood transfusion, fed through a feeding tube and given oxygen? Are they viable human beings?

silly you.... follow the bouncing ball....... i said it b4 & i'll say it again... the female gets to decide, except when a fetus is viable outside the womb ...until then, nobody but her gets to decide.

BUT i also added that the pregnant female who has been part of the human community , has a life history... life experiences - gets the final decision. you couldn't figure out that is extended to anybody post born? however, medical intervention to save a post born life is not what we are talking about.

BUT should anybody who makes the decision to end themselves because the rest of their life will be nothing but pain & disease should also get a physician's help in that decision, without fear of big bad government intrusion.

They're a human being, regardless of your definition of what's viable or not. You still didn't answer about a person after surgery. You're position is very weak. Killing innocent defenseless human beings is always a position of weakness.

i sure did answer you. your comprehension skills suck.

 

[basquebromance]

if you don't say what you think, then you did an abortion on yourself!

 

[BS Filter]

A human embro isn't part of a woman's body. The human fetus is a separate human being. Did you ever take a science class?

but cannot survive without her uterus, blood, nutrition.... until it can, then to you- she is just a host & incubator.

To you the human being isn't a human. What about a human being in the hospital after surgery that is given a blood transfusion, fed through a feeding tube and given oxygen? Are they viable human beings?

silly you.... follow the bouncing ball....... i said it b4 & i'll say it again... the female gets to decide, except when a fetus is viable outside the womb ...until then, nobody but her gets to decide.

BUT i also added that the pregnant female who has been part of the human community , has a life history... life experiences - gets the final decision. you couldn't figure out that is extended to anybody post born? however, medical intervention to save a post born life is not what we are talking about.

BUT should anybody who makes the decision to end themselves because the rest of their life will be nothing but pain & disease should also get a physician's help in that decision, without fear of big bad government intrusion.

They're a human being, regardless of your definition of what's viable or not. You still didn't answer about a person after surgery. You're position is very weak. Killing innocent defenseless human beings is always a position of weakness.

i sure did answer you. your comprehension skills suck.

You're not worth any more of my time, loser.