Ken Burns Roosevelt Documentary

[MisterBeale]

I've got to be in the right mood for a Burns doc.

Dude puts me to sleep with his droning monotone.

Ken Burns. . . . America's master propagandist.

 

[MisterBeale]

Isolationists were in both parties not just Republicans. Half of the country was divided on the war issues.

Very true. I would even say that half is being generous. Most of the country wanted nothing to do with the war in Europe.

That's where FDR's leadership came into play. He knew it was coming our way, especially if Britain fell.

That ideology went out the window when the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor, so no we would not be speaking or typing in German or Japanese no matter who was in the White House.

Do you have any clue what our military strength was before FDR built it up to send equipment to Britain and the USSR? It was pathetic. Our experience in WWI turned the country against spending on the military, and the policies of Coolidge and Hoover during the 1920s had no emphasis on defense spending.

Had FDR not used his power to ramp up the military on behalf of Britain and the Soviets (and to get Americans working), the Japanese would have rolled right over us.

You really need to watch this documentary.

Whenever America is attacked we all come together and agree on war, against anyone who attacks us, be it in WWII or the World Trade Center.

BENGHAZI!!!!!!!

Well, that was easy.

That was not on American Soil

At the time, neither was Hawaii. It joined the Union on August 21, 1959.

 

[MisterBeale]

FDR was a traitor to all the ideals that George Washington held sacred. He lied to, and betrayed the American people.

 

[JakeStarkey]

MisterBeale is doing the best he can, which leaves him far behind.

 

[Moonglow]

MisterBeale is doing the best he can, which leaves him far behind.

Some people operate with bald tires.

 

[MisterBeale]

MisterBeale is doing the best he can, which leaves him far behind.

Everyone knows you you are Jake. Nothing you say matters.

 

[Moonglow]

MisterBeale is doing the best he can, which leaves him far behind.

Everyone knows you you are Jake. Nothing you say matters.

 

[MisterBeale]

MisterBeale is doing the best he can, which leaves him far behind.

Some people operate with bald tires.

Any yet they seem to out preform mediocre drivers.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Only to those who don't matter in the scheme of things, like you, MisterBeale

 

[Camp]

Is there absolutely not bottom to your ignorance????

Not only do you know nothing and appear proud of same....
...but you will simply make things up!!!!

There was no Roosevelt 'military buildup' in the 1930s.



FDR did very little for the Army either with its size or weapons and during the 1930s, his defense budgets were cut to the bone.

Typical PoliticalChic misinformed and distorted ideas. She knows less than nothing about the topics and ideas she attempts to promote.

 

[Unkotare]

Is there absolutely not bottom to your ignorance????

Not only do you know nothing and appear proud of same....
...but you will simply make things up!!!!

There was no Roosevelt 'military buildup' in the 1930s.



FDR did very little for the Army either with its size or weapons and during the 1930s, his defense budgets were cut to the bone.

Typical PoliticalChic misinformed and distorted ideas. She knows less than nothing about the topics and ideas she attempts to promote.

Then how does she manage to make a fool of you every time?

 

[MisterBeale]

The blood of those airmen and sailors is on the hands of FDR. He could have negotiated with Japan. He refused.

Pearl Harbour memo shows US warned of Japanese attack
Pearl Harbour memo shows US warned of Japanese attack - Telegraph

Now, on the 70th anniversary of Japan's devastating bombardment of the US Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbour, Hawaii, evidence has emerged showing that President Franklin D.Roosevelt was warned three days before the attack that the Japanese empire was eyeing up Hawaii with a view to "open conflict."

The information, contained in a declassified memorandum from the Office of Naval Intelligence, adds to proof that Washington dismissed red flags signalling that mass bloodshed was looming and war was imminent.

"In anticipation of possible open conflict with this country, Japan is vigorously utilizing every available agency to secure military, naval and commercial information, paying particular attention to the West Coast, the Panama Canal and the Territory of Hawaii," stated the 26-page memo.

Dated December 4, 1941, marked as confidential, and entitled "Japanese intelligence and propaganda in the United States," it flagged up Japan's surveillance of Hawaii under a section headlined "Methods of Operation and Points of Attack."

 

[Moonglow]

Is there absolutely not bottom to your ignorance????

Not only do you know nothing and appear proud of same....
...but you will simply make things up!!!!

There was no Roosevelt 'military buildup' in the 1930s.



FDR did very little for the Army either with its size or weapons and during the 1930s, his defense budgets were cut to the bone.

Typical PoliticalChic misinformed and distorted ideas. She knows less than nothing about the topics and ideas she attempts to promote.

Then how does she manage to make a fool of you every time?

She does try. but........

 

[Moonglow]

The blood of those airmen and sailors is on the hands of FDR. He could have negotiated with Japan. He refused.

Pearl Harbour memo shows US warned of Japanese attack
Pearl Harbour memo shows US warned of Japanese attack - Telegraph

Now, on the 70th anniversary of Japan's devastating bombardment of the US Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbour, Hawaii, evidence has emerged showing that President Franklin D.Roosevelt was warned three days before the attack that the Japanese empire was eyeing up Hawaii with a view to "open conflict."

The information, contained in a declassified memorandum from the Office of Naval Intelligence, adds to proof that Washington dismissed red flags signalling that mass bloodshed was looming and war was imminent.

"In anticipation of possible open conflict with this country, Japan is vigorously utilizing every available agency to secure military, naval and commercial information, paying particular attention to the West Coast, the Panama Canal and the Territory of Hawaii," stated the 26-page memo.

Dated December 4, 1941, marked as confidential, and entitled "Japanese intelligence and propaganda in the United States," it flagged up Japan's surveillance of Hawaii under a section headlined "Methods of Operation and Points of Attack."

Hindsight, 20-20 vision of past events does not lend credibility to accusations... They were warned but did not know the exact date, and at the time the Japanese were negotiating with Washington like nothing was going to happen..

 

[Camp]

Is there absolutely not bottom to your ignorance????

Not only do you know nothing and appear proud of same....
...but you will simply make things up!!!!

There was no Roosevelt 'military buildup' in the 1930s.



FDR did very little for the Army either with its size or weapons and during the 1930s, his defense budgets were cut to the bone.

Typical PoliticalChic misinformed and distorted ideas. She knows less than nothing about the topics and ideas she attempts to promote.

Then how does she manage to make a fool of you every time?

She doesn't. That is just your opinion. You hate FDR and I don't. Your opinion is biased. Do you doubt that a can make her assertion about FDR's build up of the military before the war began look stupid and foolish?

 

[Unkotare]

You hate FDR and I don't. Your opinion is biased.

NO, you are a mindless nuthugger and I'm not. Your opinion is biased.

 

[Camp]

You hate FDR and I don't. Your opinion is biased.

NO, you are a mindless nuthugger and I'm not. Your opinion is biased.

But I am able to somehow always counter her arguments with indisputable factual data that causes her to deflect and escape her argument. Like the current one about FDR not building up the military preceding WWII.

 

[Discombobulated]

My point is that if FDR had not started to build the military defense industry to help Britain and the Soviets, we would have been unable to respond to Pearl Harbor in any effective way. It takes years to ramp that industry up, and change auto factories into tank factories, etc.

Even with the buildup, it was a close war. Japan and Germany were not paper tigers.

It took only WEEKS to bend the sheet metal into different shapes in Detroit. You're a rude idiot posing as some kind of authority on subjects you know nothing about.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Sheet metal? Are you fucking kidding or what? Is an M-1 rifle made out of sheet metal? How about a Sherman Tank? Did Ford start producing B-24s on December 8th?

Hey dickhead....Detroit wasn't building the M-1...what about the Sherman Tank? Do you have any idea how a tank is armored? Do you think nobody was building bombers before 1942? Fact of the matter is you don't know your pecker from your pinky.....idiot leftist twit.

This is a subject on which I can crush you any time.......you don't know anything about anything. And by the way dummy, Sherman tanks were constructed from welded castings.

 

[Synthaholic]

Isolationists were in both parties not just Republicans. Half of the country was divided on the war issues.

Very true. I would even say that half is being generous. Most of the country wanted nothing to do with the war in Europe.

That's where FDR's leadership came into play. He knew it was coming our way, especially if Britain fell.

That ideology went out the window when the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor, so no we would not be speaking or typing in German or Japanese no matter who was in the White House.

Do you have any clue what our military strength was before FDR built it up to send equipment to Britain and the USSR? It was pathetic. Our experience in WWI turned the country against spending on the military, and the policies of Coolidge and Hoover during the 1920s had no emphasis on defense spending.

Had FDR not used his power to ramp up the military on behalf of Britain and the Soviets (and to get Americans working), the Japanese would have rolled right over us.

You really need to watch this documentary.

Whenever America is attacked we all come together and agree on war, against anyone who attacks us, be it in WWII or the World Trade Center.

BENGHAZI!!!!!!!

Well, that was easy.

That was not on American Soil

Oh, so now you are qualifying your previous statement?

What's next: "Whenever America is attacked (on American soil) we all come together (as long as the president is a Republican)?

Why are you reading into something that was not said or implied ?

Did Americans that were divided on going to war in WWII come together and did want to go to war after Pearl Harbor? YES
Did the majority of Americans want to go to war after the World Trade Center? YES
We have been divided on war when it has been embassies.

BENGHAZI!!! wasn't an embassy.

 

[Synthaholic]

Many Americans want to believe their leaders were great men. So they believe the fairy tales told them in the government schools. Sadly this belief overrides their ability to think.

This thread is about FDR, not Reagan.