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The Canadian oil will be coming to America to be refined.
The choice is between it arriving via pipeline or by rail tanker car.
Unless, of course, it's made "illegal" - in which case it can just walk in like any other alien.
But wouldn't a pipeline take all of those train worker jobs and truck driver jobs and weigh station jobs etc etc etc AWAY, and make those doing the permanent full time job now, virtually UNEMPLOYED, while only creating a few handful of jobs that are permanent full time jobs?The Canadian oil will be coming to America to be refined.
The choice is between it arriving via pipeline or by rail tanker car.
Unless, of course, it's made "illegal" - in which case it can just walk in like any other alien.
The refineries are listed as "committed shippers"
Just google "Keystone refinery subsidies"
They must be retooled to handle this particular brand of sludge. Did taxpayers help pay for it?
Do your research - make up your own mind.
But wouldn't a pipeline take all of those train worker jobs and truck driver jobs and weigh station jobs etc etc etc AWAY, and make those doing the permanent full time job now, virtually UNEMPLOYED, while only creating a few handful of jobs that are permanent full time jobs?The Canadian oil will be coming to America to be refined.
The choice is between it arriving via pipeline or by rail tanker car.
Unless, of course, it's made "illegal" - in which case it can just walk in like any other alien.
Seems to me, there would be a permanent loss of American jobs as a result.... is that what you truly want? Instead of a jobs bill, a KILL JOBS BILL?
But wouldn't a pipeline take all of those train worker jobs and truck driver jobs and weigh station jobs etc etc etc AWAY, and make those doing the permanent full time job now, virtually UNEMPLOYED, while only creating a few handful of jobs that are permanent full time jobs?The Canadian oil will be coming to America to be refined.
The choice is between it arriving via pipeline or by rail tanker car.
Unless, of course, it's made "illegal" - in which case it can just walk in like any other alien.
Seems to me, there would be a permanent loss of American jobs as a result.... is that what you truly want? Instead of a jobs bill, a KILL JOBS BILL?
The refineries are listed as "committed shippers"
Just google "Keystone refinery subsidies"
They must be retooled to handle this particular brand of sludge. Did taxpayers help pay for it?
Do your research - make up your own mind.
Go to your own government website. You do believe your government don't you?
"Refining capacity in the Gulf Coast has large secondary conversion capacity including hydrocrackers, cokers, and desulfurization units.
These units enable the processing of heavy, high sulfur (sour) crude oils like Mexican Maya that typically sell at a discount to light, low sulfur (sweet) crudes like Brent and Louisiana Light Sweet.
Many East Coast refineries have less secondary conversion capacity, and in general they process crude oil with lower sulfur content and a lighter density. This lighter, lower sulfur crude oil commands a premium price on world markets."
Attributes of crude oil at U.S. refineries vary by region - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration EIA
But wouldn't a pipeline take all of those train worker jobs and truck driver jobs and weigh station jobs etc etc etc AWAY, and make those doing the permanent full time job now, virtually UNEMPLOYED, while only creating a few handful of jobs that are permanent full time jobs?The Canadian oil will be coming to America to be refined.
The choice is between it arriving via pipeline or by rail tanker car.
Unless, of course, it's made "illegal" - in which case it can just walk in like any other alien.
Seems to me, there would be a permanent loss of American jobs as a result.... is that what you truly want? Instead of a jobs bill, a KILL JOBS BILL?
shhhhhhhhhh .... Keystone adds 30 permanent jobs to our economy. If we're lucky , they'll hire Americans. Truck drivers and Rail workers don't need jobs.
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But wouldn't a pipeline take all of those train worker jobs and truck driver jobs and weigh station jobs etc etc etc AWAY, and make those doing the permanent full time job now, virtually UNEMPLOYED, while only creating a few handful of jobs that are permanent full time jobs?The Canadian oil will be coming to America to be refined.
The choice is between it arriving via pipeline or by rail tanker car.
Unless, of course, it's made "illegal" - in which case it can just walk in like any other alien.
Seems to me, there would be a permanent loss of American jobs as a result.... is that what you truly want? Instead of a jobs bill, a KILL JOBS BILL?
shhhhhhhhhh .... Keystone adds 30 permanent jobs to our economy. If we're lucky , they'll hire Americans. Truck drivers and Rail workers don't need jobs.
es
The refineries are listed as "committed shippers"
Just google "Keystone refinery subsidies"
They must be retooled to handle this particular brand of sludge. Did taxpayers help pay for it?
Do your research - make up your own mind.
Go to your own government website. You do believe your government don't you?
"Refining capacity in the Gulf Coast has large secondary conversion capacity including hydrocrackers, cokers, and desulfurization units.
These units enable the processing of heavy, high sulfur (sour) crude oils like Mexican Maya that typically sell at a discount to light, low sulfur (sweet) crudes like Brent and Louisiana Light Sweet.
Many East Coast refineries have less secondary conversion capacity, and in general they process crude oil with lower sulfur content and a lighter density. This lighter, lower sulfur crude oil commands a premium price on world markets."
Attributes of crude oil at U.S. refineries vary by region - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration EIA
These units enable the processing of heavy, high sulfur (sour) crude oils like Mexican Maya that typically sell at a discount
sure they do, that's because we buy more crap oil from Latin America and Mexico than we do Canada.
duuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ..
The refineries are listed as "committed shippers"
Just google "Keystone refinery subsidies"
They must be retooled to handle this particular brand of sludge. Did taxpayers help pay for it?
Do your research - make up your own mind.
Go to your own government website. You do believe your government don't you?
"Refining capacity in the Gulf Coast has large secondary conversion capacity including hydrocrackers, cokers, and desulfurization units.
These units enable the processing of heavy, high sulfur (sour) crude oils like Mexican Maya that typically sell at a discount to light, low sulfur (sweet) crudes like Brent and Louisiana Light Sweet.
Many East Coast refineries have less secondary conversion capacity, and in general they process crude oil with lower sulfur content and a lighter density. This lighter, lower sulfur crude oil commands a premium price on world markets."
Attributes of crude oil at U.S. refineries vary by region - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration EIA
These units enable the processing of heavy, high sulfur (sour) crude oils like Mexican Maya that typically sell at a discount
sure they do, that's because we buy more crap oil from Latin America and Mexico than we do Canada.
duuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ..
"Canadian companies backing the Keystone XL – touted as enhancing US energy security with a big new surge of imported Canadian oil – actually expect it to supply more lucrative Gulf Coast export markets as well as raise Midwest oil prices by reducing “oversupply” in that region.
These little-publicized findings are contained in the studies and testimony of experts working for TransCanada, the company that wants to build the pipeline from Alberta’s tar sands across America’s heartland to Gulf Coast refineries."
Inside the Keystone pipeline How much would it really help US consumers - CSMonitor.com
IMHO: this is just a pretty mundane topic that the hyper-partisans and the self-interest promoters have turned into a hyper-partisan issue with their lies and rhetoric.
holy crap right? Wow. literacy on the left is just lost.Why do we need rail and highway to benefit Mexico and Canada commerce?The Senate has passed the House's Pipeline bill with 10 Democrats voting in favor.
Yet Obama still threatens Veto
Why do we need a pipeline through our country to help Canada sell to the rest of the world?
ones that don' match what the people want. Even those on the left. So he is voting against the needs and wants. Yeah I oppose them then.The will of the American people was acted upon by their duly elected congress critters. Obama plans to stand in defiance of the American people with his veto pen
Do you oppose all Presidential vetos?
Wasting everyone's time and moneyThe Senate has passed the House's Pipeline bill with 10 Democrats voting in favor.
Yet Obama still threatens Veto
GOP Congress
The congress is only doing what the people who voted for them wanted them to do. POTUS vetoes it, well we'll see what happens in the next election. The GOP must do what the people voted them into power to do. They get the votes great, they don't, that's on the dems only. Next election, that will be the discussion topic. And there will be no way away from it for the Dems. Just saying.It'll only take a few more dollars to convince 5 moreAs he should. They need 67 votes dummy, and they know Obama will veto it so they can be for it before they were against it.The Senate has passed the House's Pipeline bill with 10 Democrats voting in favor.
Yet Obama still threatens Veto
doing what they were voted into office to do . too bad for dems.Wasting everyone's time and moneyThe Senate has passed the House's Pipeline bill with 10 Democrats voting in favor.
Yet Obama still threatens Veto
exactly, and profit for the refineries. no matter. oh, and no more OPECIt's nothing like a lie. That oil has always been only for export, only. Look it up.Yeah, China wants their oil and Canada wants their profit. That oil is for export only. We get nothing but the damage to the environment and the pissed off property owners who were force to sell their land.the 2.00 gas is not the issue on whether we build it(that will be the liberal excuse). we just need to to build it!!!!The Senate has passed the House's Pipeline bill with 10 Democrats voting in favor.
Yet Obama still threatens Veto
Are you fucking nuts? We have this big blue thing on our west coast called the freaking Pacific Ocean. A direct route to China.
And this is Keystone freaking three. And the northern leg will carry crude from the Bakkens to the Gulf. To your US refineries. And stop with the bullshit that all this oil is going to be exported. It's a lie.
Keystone is not an oil producer or a refinery. All TransCanada's Keystone is is a bloody pipeline.
And that crude is coming to your Gulf coast no matter what that idiot in the White House does.
