Killer sets trap, says its "stand your ground"

[HereWeGoAgain]

I do know what its like but it was different. He was waiting in the attic. I put the kids to bed I was watching for the evening and they kept calling me upstairs telling me they could hear a "ghost" in the attic. To calm them and show them there was no such thing as ghosts, I got a ladder and a flashlight and opened the trap door to the attic.

When I l climbed up and looked in I saw a pair of sneakers and legs. I immediately jumped down, breaking my ankle, unbeknownst to me at the time. Grabbed the kids and hobbled an my ass to the neighbors home. Cops arrived as he was fleeing out the back sliders--( which he used to gain access to my home) his jeans were caught on a nail which slowed his fleeing down until the cops arrived. That's when I got a gun. Who the hell knows why he was lying in wait in the attic. Scary shit.

The guy in the OP is different tho, unless there was not a locked door between him and his family then he may have been in the right, but Ill bet there was a door separating the garage and home and he could have waited for the cops or until he tried to gain entrance to the main home.

The wife and I were watching the tube one evening when I heard a knock on the door.
I always looked out the side window to see who was at my door before answering.
I see three mexican dudes on my porch and a car parked out front.
I grab the sawed off 870 I leave by the front door and keep it out of sight behind the door jam when I open the door.
They asked to use the phone because their car had broken down. I told them they could wait there and I called out to the wife to bring the cordless phone.
Already being suspicious since all three had come to the door rather then just one of them I wasn't about to let them in the house. I then noticed one had a cell phone in his hand.
The one with the cell in his hand was standing behind the first two and he realized that I had seen his phone. He immediately started rushing forward trying to get past his buddies.
At that point I brought the shotgun up. Those fools were falling all over themselves trying to get over the shrubs that lined my front porch.
They then jumped into their supposedly broken down car and hauled ass.
That was years ago when we had first married and we've since moved to a gated community. But I still go to the door armed. Because I've never forgotten that feeling of "what if" I hadnt been armed that first time?

All it takes is not being prepared one time. I'm not gonna let that happen....ever.
Fuck what some liberal panty waste thinks.

You are full of shit.

And you can go fuck yourself. I sure as hell dont need your belief one way or another.
What happened,happened.....sooooo

 

[jon_berzerk]

Let's see.....just about every USMB nutter in the thread has had an brush with death in their home. What a co-ink-dink!

just about any buddy who is a some buddy has had something weird happen to them

at some point

on a isolated stretch of highway late one rainy night

a car load of guys started giving my son and i a hard time

the last time they were beside us

i rolled down the window pulled a little ahead

said "cheers" and tossed a big gulp glass filled with a quart of motor oil

onto their windshield

that was the last i seen of them as the headed for the ditch

 

[jasonnfree]

in the news stories you have no idea why the kid went into the garage. he may well have been intending to burglarize the place. he may not have..

Pretty stupid thing to do. Trespassing and all.

you've never closed your neighbor's garage door when they accidentally left it open at night?
you're right, i don't. just as the shooter had no idea what was in the mind of the kid, because he blindly shot into the dark.

your material possessions are not worth the life of anyone

Bullshit. I have the right to defend my property. Don't steal shit and you won't have a problem. You're free to allow thugs to take from you but you have no right to impose that nonsense on others.

it's not nonsense. your property is not worth another human life. it just isn't. your property can be replaced. or has nobody told you that they're just things and you can't take it with you?

What if that property is your livelihood though? Maybe a truck with tools that took you a lifetime to collect and now you have no livelihood. That's why a guy could kill a horse thief in the old days. A horse pretty much being how some made their living back then.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Let's see.....just about every USMB nutter in the thread has had an brush with death in their home. What a co-ink-dink!

just about any buddy who is a some buddy has had something weird happen to them

at some point

on a isolated stretch of highway late one rainy night

a car load of guys started giving my son and i a hard time

the last time they were beside us

i rolled down the window pulled a little ahead

said "cheers" and tossed a big gulp glass filled with a quart of motor oil

onto their windshield

that was the last i seen of them as the headed for the ditch

Niiiiice!!!!!

I use to carry half a brick under the fairing of my FZ. If anyone fucked with me or tailgated I'd just hold it over my head and make throwing motions. That usually did the trick.

 

[Andylusion]

They were robbed twice in 3 weeks?
Uh yeah... I can tell you that when I came home, and my entire house was turned upside down, and half my stuff was gone, if I had found someone in my home, yeah, I would have shot him for sure.

If that had happened twice in 3 weeks, I would have been spitting fire, and loading 9mm clips for sure. Absolutely I would have.

Do any of you people know what it like to find your entire house ransacked? Do you have any idea what it's like to go around trying to figure out what isn't there anymore?

I do know what its like but it was different. He was waiting in the attic. I put the kids to bed I was watching for the evening and they kept calling me upstairs telling me they could hear a "ghost" in the attic. To calm them and show them there was no such thing as ghosts, I got a ladder and a flashlight and opened the trap door to the attic.

When I l climbed up and looked in I saw a pair of sneakers and legs. I immediately jumped down, breaking my ankle, unbeknownst to me at the time. Grabbed the kids and hobbled an my ass to the neighbors home. Cops arrived as he was fleeing out the back sliders--( which he used to gain access to my home) his jeans were caught on a nail which slowed his fleeing down until the cops arrived. That's when I got a gun. Who the hell knows why he was lying in wait in the attic. Scary shit.

Me too, a little different. Six months pregnant with a 2 and a 3 year old at 7pm the cable went out. I didn't think anything of it and started the bedtime routine, until ten minutes later a thunderous knock on the door twice. I was frightened and didn't open the door instead went to call my husband only to find the phone was dead. Then I could see three guys climbing over the deck. I rushed to lock the doors, grabbed my babies my gun and ran for the front door as the were breaking in the back door. I heard one scream "She's getting out" and I fired a shot into the grass and managed to run to a neighbors.

Phone, fax and cable lines were all cut.

No way was I wanting to kill them, I just wanted to protect my family. If cornered I would have though.

The wife and I were watching the tube one evening when I heard a knock on the door.
I always looked out the side window to see who was at my door before answering.
I see three mexican dudes on my porch and a car parked out front.
I grab the sawed off 870 I leave by the front door and keep it out of sight behind the door jam when I open the door.
They asked to use the phone because their car had broken down. I told them they could wait there and I called out to the wife to bring the cordless phone.
Already being suspicious since all three had come to the door rather then just one of them I wasn't about to let them in the house. I then noticed one had a cell phone in his hand.
The one with the cell in his hand was standing behind the first two and he realized that I had seen his phone. He immediately started rushing forward trying to get past his buddies.
At that point I brought the shotgun up. Those fools were falling all over themselves trying to get over the shrubs that lined my front porch.
They then jumped into their supposedly broken down car and hauled ass.
That was years ago when we had first married and we've since moved to a gated community. But I still go to the door armed. Because I've never forgotten that feeling of "what if" I hadnt been armed that first time?

All it takes is not being prepared one time. I'm not gonna let that happen....ever.
Fuck what some liberal panty waste thinks.

Let's see.....just about every USMB nutter in the thread has had an brush with death in their home. What a co-ink-dink!

Just glancing over the thread here..... can anyone tell which one is the leftist?

See this is the difference. Some people live in the mythical socialist Utopia.

[ame=http://youtu.be/DuhKCiY-lu0]Armed Homeowner Shoots Robbers During Daytime Invasion (AZ) - YouTube[/ame]

Others live in the real world.

 

[CaféAuLait]

Or these as well

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVbDrdCm7AY]Mother Shoots Home Intruder Six Times after Being Cornered in Attic - YouTube[/ame]


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpv9tJwjmAk&feature=player_embedded]Mom fights back against home invaders on Detroit's west side - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_bhp-_e_D8]Woman shoots and kills intruder - 911 Audio - YouTube[/ame]


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43lAdgrsQyE]911 caller, woman shoots intruder...wmv - YouTube[/ame]


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=775HZwognE0]Grandma 72 Shoots Intruder while Calling 911: Back up, You Son of a B*, I'm Firing - California - YouTube[/ame]


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Wxge7qcUM]Oklahoma Mother, 18, Kills Intruder Breaking Into Her Home While on Phone With 911 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[CaféAuLait]

Oooooh! Badass alert!

Oooooh! Fagget lib alert!
I look at fools like you with complete disdain. You bury your head in the sand thinking you'll never need to protect yourself or loved one's. If the day ever comes,God forbid,and you fail to protect your family? I hope you can live with yourself,because I know I couldnt.
Good luck....

You fail to understand. I will shoot a threat dead.....but I will know that I have to first. You will not. That is what makes you less of a man than me. No amount of luck can help you in that regard.

So you will "shoot a threat dead" and presumably own a gun, but those of us who have gone through traumatic experiences- you call gun nuts and or liars and both?

If you own a gun then you must see there are threats because of the high amount of crime.

 

[Wake]

This is a really sensitive issue, and I'd like to share some of my thoughts regarding it.

• This really isn't a political issue. It's about a man guilty of premeditated murder.

• Both parties were in the wrong here. Both screwed up royally.

• Human life has far more value than material possessions.

• People should be able to defend themselves with a gun if they're physically attacked.

• This man set a trap to murder the guy. Him using SYG as a defense is a mockery of SYG.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Oooooh! Fagget lib alert!
I look at fools like you with complete disdain. You bury your head in the sand thinking you'll never need to protect yourself or loved one's. If the day ever comes,God forbid,and you fail to protect your family? I hope you can live with yourself,because I know I couldnt.
Good luck....

You fail to understand. I will shoot a threat dead.....but I will know that I have to first. You will not. That is what makes you less of a man than me. No amount of luck can help you in that regard.

So you will "shoot a threat dead" and presumably own a gun, but those of us who have gone through traumatic experiences- you call gun nuts and or liars and both?

If you own a gun then you must see there are threats because of the high amount of crime.

I have never called you a gun nut.

I own a gun because so many nutters own them. Get it?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Let's see.....just about every USMB nutter in the thread has had an brush with death in their home. What a co-ink-dink!

Guess you've been fortunate.
Let it happen to you one time and you'll change your tune....assuming you live through it.

I also had a couple of guys pretend to have had a motorcycle accident so they could try and jack my bike.
I was coming home from work on my FZ 750 on the back roads and I came upon two guys,one laying on the ground pretending to be injured and the other standing on the side of the road by a laid down motorcycle.
Right about the the time I stopped the "injured" guy jumps up and tries to knock me off my bike. I was lucky I got on the throttle in time.
Maybe if you moved out of your moms basement and got out into the world you would be unfortunate enough to experience attempted crimes.
Or maybe you just live in Mayberry...... say hello to officer Fife for me next time you see him.

Sure......sure.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Let's see.....just about every USMB nutter in the thread has had an brush with death in their home. What a co-ink-dink!

just about any buddy who is a some buddy has had something weird happen to them

at some point

on a isolated stretch of highway late one rainy night

a car load of guys started giving my son and i a hard time

the last time they were beside us

i rolled down the window pulled a little ahead

said "cheers" and tossed a big gulp glass filled with a quart of motor oil

onto their windshield

that was the last i seen of them as the headed for the ditch

Did they survive? You fucking liar.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Let's see.....just about every USMB nutter in the thread has had an brush with death in their home. What a co-ink-dink!

just about any buddy who is a some buddy has had something weird happen to them

at some point

on a isolated stretch of highway late one rainy night

a car load of guys started giving my son and i a hard time

the last time they were beside us

i rolled down the window pulled a little ahead

said "cheers" and tossed a big gulp glass filled with a quart of motor oil

onto their windshield

that was the last i seen of them as the headed for the ditch

Did they survive? You fucking liar.

If you dont believe it,why bother asking if they survived?

 

[LoneLaugher]

just about any buddy who is a some buddy has had something weird happen to them

at some point

on a isolated stretch of highway late one rainy night

a car load of guys started giving my son and i a hard time

the last time they were beside us

i rolled down the window pulled a little ahead

said "cheers" and tossed a big gulp glass filled with a quart of motor oil

onto their windshield

that was the last i seen of them as the headed for the ditch

Did they survive? You fucking liar.

If you dont believe it,why bother asking if they survived?

Because the entire thing is ludicrous. If we are to believe what he says, the guy may have committed murder. Get it?

And you said "nice!"

Try harder.

 

[R.D.]

I do know what its like but it was different. He was waiting in the attic. I put the kids to bed I was watching for the evening and they kept calling me upstairs telling me they could hear a "ghost" in the attic. To calm them and show them there was no such thing as ghosts, I got a ladder and a flashlight and opened the trap door to the attic.

When I l climbed up and looked in I saw a pair of sneakers and legs. I immediately jumped down, breaking my ankle, unbeknownst to me at the time. Grabbed the kids and hobbled an my ass to the neighbors home. Cops arrived as he was fleeing out the back sliders--( which he used to gain access to my home) his jeans were caught on a nail which slowed his fleeing down until the cops arrived. That's when I got a gun. Who the hell knows why he was lying in wait in the attic. Scary shit.

The guy in the OP is different tho, unless there was not a locked door between him and his family then he may have been in the right, but Ill bet there was a door separating the garage and home and he could have waited for the cops or until he tried to gain entrance to the main home.

Me too, a little different. Six months pregnant with a 2 and a 3 year old at 7pm the cable went out. I didn't think anything of it and started the bedtime routine, until ten minutes later a thunderous knock on the door twice. I was frightened and didn't open the door instead went to call my husband only to find the phone was dead. Then I could see three guys climbing over the deck. I rushed to lock the doors, grabbed my babies my gun and ran for the front door as the were breaking in the back door. I heard one scream "She's getting out" and I fired a shot into the grass and managed to run to a neighbors.

Phone, fax and cable lines were all cut.

No way was I wanting to kill them, I just wanted to protect my family. If cornered I would have though.

Holy crap! Did they catch them? That seems worse, as far as I know he did not try to chase me, he just tried to get away it seems. Wow, pregnant too, probably scared the kids too. The kids with me would not go to sleep for a week after wards, and no matter what anyone told them- ghosts exist ( given my reaction since they did not see him) and the cops can catch "ghosts".

Where they caught, not that I know of. My kids never grasped the situation, my neighbors took over and were really wonderful, but I didn't sleep well for weeks. Looking back I probably could ave done with some therapy. This situation taught me that burglars don't want to hurt you, they are just robbers. Your guy seems terrifying...in your house, just OMG!

Let's see.....just about every USMB nutter in the thread has had an brush with death in their home. What a co-ink-dink!

Ass

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I do know what its like but it was different. He was waiting in the attic. I put the kids to bed I was watching for the evening and they kept calling me upstairs telling me they could hear a "ghost" in the attic. To calm them and show them there was no such thing as ghosts, I got a ladder and a flashlight and opened the trap door to the attic.

When I l climbed up and looked in I saw a pair of sneakers and legs. I immediately jumped down, breaking my ankle, unbeknownst to me at the time. Grabbed the kids and hobbled an my ass to the neighbors home. Cops arrived as he was fleeing out the back sliders--( which he used to gain access to my home) his jeans were caught on a nail which slowed his fleeing down until the cops arrived. That's when I got a gun. Who the hell knows why he was lying in wait in the attic. Scary shit.

The guy in the OP is different tho, unless there was not a locked door between him and his family then he may have been in the right, but Ill bet there was a door separating the garage and home and he could have waited for the cops or until he tried to gain entrance to the main home.

The wife and I were watching the tube one evening when I heard a knock on the door.
I always looked out the side window to see who was at my door before answering.
I see three mexican dudes on my porch and a car parked out front.
I grab the sawed off 870 I leave by the front door and keep it out of sight behind the door jam when I open the door.
They asked to use the phone because their car had broken down. I told them they could wait there and I called out to the wife to bring the cordless phone.
Already being suspicious since all three had come to the door rather then just one of them I wasn't about to let them in the house. I then noticed one had a cell phone in his hand.
The one with the cell in his hand was standing behind the first two and he realized that I had seen his phone. He immediately started rushing forward trying to get past his buddies.
At that point I brought the shotgun up. Those fools were falling all over themselves trying to get over the shrubs that lined my front porch.
They then jumped into their supposedly broken down car and hauled ass.
That was years ago when we had first married and we've since moved to a gated community. But I still go to the door armed. Because I've never forgotten that feeling of "what if" I hadnt been armed that first time?

All it takes is not being prepared one time. I'm not gonna let that happen....ever.
Fuck what some liberal panty waste thinks.

You are full of shit.

Think what you want,I really dont care.
I mean why would anyone take someone seriously who thinks there isnt a certain segment of our society who would rather suck the government tit then work?
Seriously? Next you'll tell me the tooth fairy is real.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The wife and I were watching the tube one evening when I heard a knock on the door.
I always looked out the side window to see who was at my door before answering.
I see three mexican dudes on my porch and a car parked out front.
I grab the sawed off 870 I leave by the front door and keep it out of sight behind the door jam when I open the door.
They asked to use the phone because their car had broken down. I told them they could wait there and I called out to the wife to bring the cordless phone.
Already being suspicious since all three had come to the door rather then just one of them I wasn't about to let them in the house. I then noticed one had a cell phone in his hand.
The one with the cell in his hand was standing behind the first two and he realized that I had seen his phone. He immediately started rushing forward trying to get past his buddies.
At that point I brought the shotgun up. Those fools were falling all over themselves trying to get over the shrubs that lined my front porch.
They then jumped into their supposedly broken down car and hauled ass.
That was years ago when we had first married and we've since moved to a gated community. But I still go to the door armed. Because I've never forgotten that feeling of "what if" I hadnt been armed that first time?

All it takes is not being prepared one time. I'm not gonna let that happen....ever.
Fuck what some liberal panty waste thinks.

You are full of shit.

Think what you want,I really dont care.
I mean why would anyone take someone seriously who thinks there isnt a certain segment of our society who would rather suck the government tit then work?
Seriously? Next you'll tell me the tooth fairy is real.

Great argument. You win.

 

[Noomi]

What a shame that these young people don't find staying alive worth more than stealing someone else's property.

You don't have the death penalty for theft, so why allow home owners to murder someone over a $100 television?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

What a shame that these young people don't find staying alive worth more than stealing someone else's property.

You don't have the death penalty for theft, so why allow home owners to murder someone over a $100 television?

How do you know they're only there for your TV? People get killed in home invasions all the time.
If you dont want a bullet in your head dont break into peoples houses.
I really dont see why thats so hard to understand.

 

[Andylusion]

What a shame that these young people don't find staying alive worth more than stealing someone else's property.

You don't have the death penalty for theft, so why allow home owners to murder someone over a $100 television?

We did have the death penalty for theft. It's only been in recent times that we no longer do, and shockingly theft is extremely wide spread and common. We need to get back to the civil society we had before, where people didn't even close their front doors.

Of course... that requires harsh consistent punishment for theft. And of course that requires not listening to leftists.

 

[jon_berzerk]

What a shame that these young people don't find staying alive worth more than stealing someone else's property.

You don't have the death penalty for theft, so why allow home owners to murder someone over a $100 television?

How do you know they're only there for your TV? People get killed in home invasions all the time.
If you dont want a bullet in your head dont break into peoples houses.
I really dont see why thats so hard to understand.

apparently it is hard to understand

the kid that was shot in the head (and survived) by Merritt Landry

was busted yesterday for another burglary

Teenager shot by Marigny homeowner arrested in residential burglary, sources say | NOLA.com