Know Why The Left Hides History?

[bodecea]

democrats cling to the "party switch" myth with teary-eyed desperation because the few of them with the slightest hint of historical and political self-awareness are terrified at being seen for what they have always been.

So..it's just our imagination that a part of the country that used to be solid Democrat is now solid Republican?dd

 

[Unkotare]

The Myth of ‘the Southern Strategy’

 

[bodecea]

The Myth of ‘the Southern Strategy’

AKA: Don't trust your eyes, people.

 

[Confounding]

democrats cling to the "party switch" myth with teary-eyed desperation

Yeah, along with historians and history professors.

 

[Wry Catcher]

1. Essentially, it's because they want to hide who they are, where they came from.

This sort of thing:

Liberal historian Eric Foner writes that the Klan was “…a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party…” Foner, “Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877,” p. 425




2. But, to pick up on today's headlines.....

....the KKK began with gun control as a major objective.

Guess whose guns they wanted to control?




3. "America’s most horrific racist organization, the Ku Klux Klan, began with gun control at the very top of its agenda. Before the Civil War, blacks in the South had never been allowed to possess guns. During the war, however, blacks obtained guns for the first time. Some served as soldiers in black units in the Union Army, which allowed its men, black and white, to take their guns home with them as partial payment of past due wages. Other Southern blacks bought guns in the underground marketplace, which was flooded with firearms produced for the war.

After the war, Southern states adopted discriminatory laws like the Black Codes, which among other things barred the freedmen from having guns. Racist whites began to form posses that would go out at night to terrorize blacks—and take away those newly obtained firearms. The groups took different names: the “Men of Justice” in Alabama; the “Knights of the White Camellia” in Louisiana; the “Knights of the Rising Sun” in Texas. The group formed in Pulaski, Tenn., became the most well-known: the Ku Klux Klan."
Adam Winkler, “Gun Fight” Author, On Gun Control’s Racism



4. "The night riders move through the darkness, white against the black road....they go about their business, their horsed draped, guns and bullwhips banging dully against saddles.

....this is the South Carolina of the 1870s, not of the turn of a new millennium, and the night riders are the terror of these times. They roam upcountry, visiting their version of justice on poor blacks and the Republicans that support them, refusing to bow to the requirements of the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments."
From the novel "The White Road," by John Connolly



5. Of course, the sons of the KKK, the members of the Party of Jefferson Davis and Bull Connor, ride again....

....and for the same objective.....gun control.



6. Who do they want to disarm today?
Democrats who own guns are more likely to vote for a Republican.
If you're a woman, and you own a gun, you are more likely to vote for a Republican.
If you're African-American, and you own a gun, are more likely to vote for a Republican.

no one hides history....

no one wants to disarm you.

unless of course, you're mentally ill, committed a felony, are a domestic abuser.

you any of those things, cut and paste queen?

Well, PC is a narcissist and abuses every person who doesn't kiss her ass with a personal attack, so two out of three seem beyond a reasonable doubt.

Now that Trump is President, we cannot write that she has engaged in seditious acts, but during the eight years Obama was in office, her posts were divisive and seditious, which might have put her in the same league as those who oppose democracy.

 

[del]

they try to sell this as hard as the statue bullshit

pretty funny, all in all

 

[Unkotare]

 

[PoliticalChic]

Which of us has been able to prove their point?

I'm not convinced that you believe what you're saying. If you do then you're delusional. You're disputing proven history that no legitimate expert or historian would dispute. You haven't proven anything because you're operating outside the confines of reality.

Case closed.

Agreed.

"...no legitimate expert or historian would dispute."

Can you name several tomes you have read that you refer to here?

No?

Exactly my point.



"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."
Coulter

How come you didn't know that Wallace wasn't a Democrat in 1968?

Your statement is an attempt to obfuscate, and hide your embarrassment.

It's the sort of lie you Leftist drones offer in place of truth.


George Corley Wallace Jr. (August 25, 1919 – September 13, 1998) was an American politician and the 45th Governor of Alabama, having served two nonconsecutive terms and two consecutive terms as a Democrat: 1963–1967, 1971–1979 and 1983–1987.
George Wallace - Wikipedia
George Wallace - Wikipedia


I'm sure you know the reason for his part affiliation 'alteration.'

Political party Democratic
Other political
affiliations
American Independent (1968
)



But his motto was always that of the Democrats:
"segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever"

How come you didn't know that Wallace wasn't a Democrat in 1968? How come you don't want to acknowledge he LEFT the Democrats....like many racist Southern politicians did?

Aren't you embarrassed that I caught you trying to deny that Wallace was a Democrat.....always a Democrat racist 'til the day he died.


No....you Democrats/Liberals are immune to shame or embarrassment.

Catch you in an attempted lie and you simply shrug.

Truly a low-life character.

 

[Unkotare]

 

[hazlnut]

1. Essentially, it's because they want to hide who they are, where they came from.

This sort of thing:

Liberal historian Eric Foner writes that the Klan was “…a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party…” Foner, “Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877,” p. 425




2. But, to pick up on today's headlines.....

....the KKK began with gun control as a major objective.

Guess whose guns they wanted to control?




3. "America’s most horrific racist organization, the Ku Klux Klan, began with gun control at the very top of its agenda. Before the Civil War, blacks in the South had never been allowed to possess guns. During the war, however, blacks obtained guns for the first time. Some served as soldiers in black units in the Union Army, which allowed its men, black and white, to take their guns home with them as partial payment of past due wages. Other Southern blacks bought guns in the underground marketplace, which was flooded with firearms produced for the war.

After the war, Southern states adopted discriminatory laws like the Black Codes, which among other things barred the freedmen from having guns. Racist whites began to form posses that would go out at night to terrorize blacks—and take away those newly obtained firearms. The groups took different names: the “Men of Justice” in Alabama; the “Knights of the White Camellia” in Louisiana; the “Knights of the Rising Sun” in Texas. The group formed in Pulaski, Tenn., became the most well-known: the Ku Klux Klan."
Adam Winkler, “Gun Fight” Author, On Gun Control’s Racism



4. "The night riders move through the darkness, white against the black road....they go about their business, their horsed draped, guns and bullwhips banging dully against saddles.

....this is the South Carolina of the 1870s, not of the turn of a new millennium, and the night riders are the terror of these times. They roam upcountry, visiting their version of justice on poor blacks and the Republicans that support them, refusing to bow to the requirements of the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments."
From the novel "The White Road," by John Connolly



5. Of course, the sons of the KKK, the members of the Party of Jefferson Davis and Bull Connor, ride again....

....and for the same objective.....gun control.



6. Who do they want to disarm today?
Democrats who own guns are more likely to vote for a Republican.
If you're a woman, and you own a gun, you are more likely to vote for a Republican.
If you're African-American, and you own a gun, are more likely to vote for a Republican.

I think we need to start calling people like you, Tribalist.

You are perpetually stuck in this "us vs them" mentally.

You claim to love America but you clearly hate many of your fellow Americans.

A Tribalist finds it easier to hate the "other" when they are a different skin color or have head covering worn as a religious custom.

Let me tell you who hates history, the people who are destined to repeat it.

The Dems changed from a conservative southern party to the left-leaning urban and big city party over a long period of time. The southern Dems "Dixiecrats" switched sides in 1960's-70's. They switched because they lost. They lost the 'War of Northern Aggression' and 100 years later they lost the right to segregate. No one wants to be on a losing team. So when Nixon introduced the southern strategy to win over the lost and forgotten "Dixies" they changed parties. The major political parties have switched polarities TWICE in our history. (this is an oversimplified and imprecise statement but true)

Perhaps if you really loved History you'd know more about it...


Can you answer this: Does it matter if racist whites-only people call themselves Republican or Democrat. Does it really matter?

 

[Unkotare]

The Myth of ‘the Southern Strategy’

AKA: Don't trust your eyes, people.

Like I said...democrats desperate to deny what they are and have always been.

 

[PoliticalChic]

democrats cling to the "party switch" myth with teary-eyed desperation

Yeah, along with historians and history professors.

Name the books you've read that document that....quote a few.

 

[Unkotare]

democrats cling to the "party switch" myth with teary-eyed desperation

Yeah, along with historians and history professors.

The ones that are far-left democrats, yes.

 

[jillian]

shocking that a rightwingnut would deny history.

I guess it's just our imagination that all those southern states went red after the civil rights act.

what nonsense.

 

[PoliticalChic]

shocking that a rightwingnut would deny history.

I guess it's just our imagination that all those southern states went red after the civil rights act.

what nonsense.

Would you like me to provide some texts you might peruse that would alleviate your ignorance?


Happy to.

 

[bodecea]

The Myth of ‘the Southern Strategy’

AKA: Don't trust your eyes, people.

Like I said...democrats desperate to deny what they are and have always been.

So...maybe the South ISN'T solid GOP now?

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Essentially, it's because they want to hide who they are, where they came from.

This sort of thing:

Liberal historian Eric Foner writes that the Klan was “…a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party…” Foner, “Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877,” p. 425




2. But, to pick up on today's headlines.....

....the KKK began with gun control as a major objective.

Guess whose guns they wanted to control?




3. "America’s most horrific racist organization, the Ku Klux Klan, began with gun control at the very top of its agenda. Before the Civil War, blacks in the South had never been allowed to possess guns. During the war, however, blacks obtained guns for the first time. Some served as soldiers in black units in the Union Army, which allowed its men, black and white, to take their guns home with them as partial payment of past due wages. Other Southern blacks bought guns in the underground marketplace, which was flooded with firearms produced for the war.

After the war, Southern states adopted discriminatory laws like the Black Codes, which among other things barred the freedmen from having guns. Racist whites began to form posses that would go out at night to terrorize blacks—and take away those newly obtained firearms. The groups took different names: the “Men of Justice” in Alabama; the “Knights of the White Camellia” in Louisiana; the “Knights of the Rising Sun” in Texas. The group formed in Pulaski, Tenn., became the most well-known: the Ku Klux Klan."
Adam Winkler, “Gun Fight” Author, On Gun Control’s Racism



4. "The night riders move through the darkness, white against the black road....they go about their business, their horsed draped, guns and bullwhips banging dully against saddles.

....this is the South Carolina of the 1870s, not of the turn of a new millennium, and the night riders are the terror of these times. They roam upcountry, visiting their version of justice on poor blacks and the Republicans that support them, refusing to bow to the requirements of the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments."
From the novel "The White Road," by John Connolly



5. Of course, the sons of the KKK, the members of the Party of Jefferson Davis and Bull Connor, ride again....

....and for the same objective.....gun control.



6. Who do they want to disarm today?
Democrats who own guns are more likely to vote for a Republican.
If you're a woman, and you own a gun, you are more likely to vote for a Republican.
If you're African-American, and you own a gun, are more likely to vote for a Republican.

I think we need to start calling people like you, Tribalist.

You are perpetually stuck in this "us vs them" mentally.

You claim to love America but you clearly hate many of your fellow Americans.

A Tribalist finds it easier to hate the "other" when they are a different skin color or have head covering worn as a religious custom.

Let me tell you who hates history, the people who are destined to repeat it.

The Dems changed from a conservative southern party to the left-leaning urban and big city party over a long period of time. The southern Dems "Dixiecrats" switched sides in 1960's-70's. They switched because they lost. They lost the 'War of Northern Aggression' and 100 years later they lost the right to segregate. No one wants to be on a losing team. So when Nixon introduced the southern strategy to win over the lost and forgotten "Dixies" they changed parties. The major political parties have switched polarities TWICE in our history. (this is an oversimplified and imprecise statement but true)

Perhaps if you really loved History you'd know more about it...


Can you answer this: Does it matter if racist whites-only people call themselves Republican or Democrat. Does it really matter?

"I think we need to start calling people like you,......."


....educated.


We both know you are unable to find any errors in my posts.



There was no 'Southern Strategy.' It's the sort of myth that allows you to keep voting for the racist party, while denying that it is.


My public service: the southern strategy myth:

[…segregationist voters who blamed civil rights on the Democrats, swiched loyaties to new Republicans who now embraced their views. Republicans ran against busing, against afirmative action, against equal rights legislation…The south has been Republican ever since]

1. “In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to the Republican Party strategy of winning elections or to gain political support in the Southern section of the country by appealing to racism against African Americans….he strategy was first adopted under future Republican President Richard Nixon and Republican Senator Barry Goldwater[6] in the late 1960s.” Southern strategy - Wikipedia
2. According to this liberal myth, Goldwater and the Republicans were racists and used racism to appeal to racist southerners to change the electoral map. To believe the tale, one must be either a reliable Democrat voter, and/or be ignorant of the history of the time.
3. Goldwater was one of only six Republican senators to vote against the 1964 act. He did so on libertarian grounds, opposed to the act’s restrictions on private property which he believed beyond the Congress’s powers under the commerce clause. Five others supported the party’s presidential nominee.
   1. Goldwater went on to win five southern states in 1964: Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, and South Carolina. But he lost eight.
   2. Democrats build the ‘southern strategy’ tale on the fact that the same states voted for ‘Dixiecrat’ Strom Thurmond in 1948 (less Georgia).
   3. Except that Nixon and Reagan lost, or almost lost the same states in ’68 and ’80…
   4. And Jimmy Carter and Clinton did pretty well in those states in ’76 and ’92.
   5. And the Goldwater states went right back to voting Democrat for decades…
4. So…if Republicans were racists and got racist southerners to vote for them, how to explain this: Republicans always did best in the southern states that Goldwater lost, which happened to be the same ones Republicans had been winning with some regularity since 1928.
   1. In ’28, ’52, ’56, and ’60, Republicans generally won Virginia, Florida, Texas, Kentucky and sometimes North Carolina or Louisiana. Did you notice that those years were before 1964?
   2. Four years after Goldwater, the segregationist vote went right back to Democrats: Humphrey got half of Wallace’s supporters on election day. Nixon got none of ‘em. “When the '68 campaign began, Nixon was at 42 percent, Humphrey at 29 percent, Wallace at 22 percent. When it ended, Nixon and Humphrey were tied at 43 percent, with Wallace at 13 percent. The 9 percent of the national vote that had been peeled off from Wallace had gone to Humphrey.” Pat Buchanan - The neocons & Nixon's southern strategy
   3. In ’76, Carter swept the South. Was Carter appealing to bigots….or is that only the case when Republicans win the South?
5. Reagan lost or barely won the Goldwater states…but Reagan won among young southern voters- but lost among seniors, those who has voted in ’48 and ’64. That meant that the segregationists never abandoned the Democrats: eventually they died or were outvoted by younger voters. Nope…after Thurmond’s run, the Dixiecrats went right back to voting for Democrats for another half century.
6. In writing about McGovern and Wallace, liberal luminary, Arthur Schlesinger, actually referred to Wallace voters as responding to their candidate’s “integrity”! “The primaries themselves, especially the success of McGovern and Wallace, provide the best evidence for the proposition that voters in 1972 care less about a candidate's stand on particular issues than they do about the candidate's integrity,…” How McGovern Will Win
   1. McGovern gave a tip-of-the-hat to the segregationist Wallace in his acceptance speech at the Democrat Convention. That was the exact midpoint between Goldwater and Reagan. So…what of the imaginary “southern strategy” where the Republicans were supposed to have a plan to appeal to racists?
   2. Democrat McGovern: “And I was as moved as well by the appearance in the Convention Hall of the Governor of Alabama, George Wallace. … Governor, we pray for your full recovery so you can stand up and speak out for all of those who see you as their champion.” ACCEPTANCE SPEECH OF SENATOR GEORGE MCGOVERN

Wise up, you dope.

 

[bodecea]

1. Essentially, it's because they want to hide who they are, where they came from.

This sort of thing:

Liberal historian Eric Foner writes that the Klan was “…a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party…” Foner, “Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877,” p. 425




2. But, to pick up on today's headlines.....

....the KKK began with gun control as a major objective.

Guess whose guns they wanted to control?




3. "America’s most horrific racist organization, the Ku Klux Klan, began with gun control at the very top of its agenda. Before the Civil War, blacks in the South had never been allowed to possess guns. During the war, however, blacks obtained guns for the first time. Some served as soldiers in black units in the Union Army, which allowed its men, black and white, to take their guns home with them as partial payment of past due wages. Other Southern blacks bought guns in the underground marketplace, which was flooded with firearms produced for the war.

After the war, Southern states adopted discriminatory laws like the Black Codes, which among other things barred the freedmen from having guns. Racist whites began to form posses that would go out at night to terrorize blacks—and take away those newly obtained firearms. The groups took different names: the “Men of Justice” in Alabama; the “Knights of the White Camellia” in Louisiana; the “Knights of the Rising Sun” in Texas. The group formed in Pulaski, Tenn., became the most well-known: the Ku Klux Klan."
Adam Winkler, “Gun Fight” Author, On Gun Control’s Racism



4. "The night riders move through the darkness, white against the black road....they go about their business, their horsed draped, guns and bullwhips banging dully against saddles.

....this is the South Carolina of the 1870s, not of the turn of a new millennium, and the night riders are the terror of these times. They roam upcountry, visiting their version of justice on poor blacks and the Republicans that support them, refusing to bow to the requirements of the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments."
From the novel "The White Road," by John Connolly



5. Of course, the sons of the KKK, the members of the Party of Jefferson Davis and Bull Connor, ride again....

....and for the same objective.....gun control.



6. Who do they want to disarm today?
Democrats who own guns are more likely to vote for a Republican.
If you're a woman, and you own a gun, you are more likely to vote for a Republican.
If you're African-American, and you own a gun, are more likely to vote for a Republican.

I think we need to start calling people like you, Tribalist.

You are perpetually stuck in this "us vs them" mentally.

You claim to love America but you clearly hate many of your fellow Americans.

A Tribalist finds it easier to hate the "other" when they are a different skin color or have head covering worn as a religious custom.

Let me tell you who hates history, the people who are destined to repeat it.

The Dems changed from a conservative southern party to the left-leaning urban and big city party over a long period of time. The southern Dems "Dixiecrats" switched sides in 1960's-70's. They switched because they lost. They lost the 'War of Northern Aggression' and 100 years later they lost the right to segregate. No one wants to be on a losing team. So when Nixon introduced the southern strategy to win over the lost and forgotten "Dixies" they changed parties. The major political parties have switched polarities TWICE in our history. (this is an oversimplified and imprecise statement but true)

Perhaps if you really loved History you'd know more about it...


Can you answer this: Does it matter if racist whites-only people call themselves Republican or Democrat. Does it really matter?

"I think we need to start calling people like you,......."


....educated.


We both know you are unable to find any errors in my posts.



There was no 'Southern Strategy.' It's the sort of myth that allows you to keep voting for the racist party, while denying that it is.


My public service: the southern strategy myth:

[…segregationist voters who blamed civil rights on the Democrats, swiched loyaties to new Republicans who now embraced their views. Republicans ran against busing, against afirmative action, against equal rights legislation…The south has been Republican ever since]

1. “In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to the Republican Party strategy of winning elections or to gain political support in the Southern section of the country by appealing to racism against African Americans….he strategy was first adopted under future Republican President Richard Nixon and Republican Senator Barry Goldwater[6] in the late 1960s.” Southern strategy - Wikipedia
2. According to this liberal myth, Goldwater and the Republicans were racists and used racism to appeal to racist southerners to change the electoral map. To believe the tale, one must be either a reliable Democrat voter, and/or be ignorant of the history of the time.
3. Goldwater was one of only six Republican senators to vote against the 1964 act. He did so on libertarian grounds, opposed to the act’s restrictions on private property which he believed beyond the Congress’s powers under the commerce clause. Five others supported the party’s presidential nominee.
   1. Goldwater went on to win five southern states in 1964: Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, and South Carolina. But he lost eight.
   2. Democrats build the ‘southern strategy’ tale on the fact that the same states voted for ‘Dixiecrat’ Strom Thurmond in 1948 (less Georgia).
   3. Except that Nixon and Reagan lost, or almost lost the same states in ’68 and ’80…
   4. And Jimmy Carter and Clinton did pretty well in those states in ’76 and ’92.
   5. And the Goldwater states went right back to voting Democrat for decades…
4. So…if Republicans were racists and got racist southerners to vote for them, how to explain this: Republicans always did best in the southern states that Goldwater lost, which happened to be the same ones Republicans had been winning with some regularity since 1928.
   1. In ’28, ’52, ’56, and ’60, Republicans generally won Virginia, Florida, Texas, Kentucky and sometimes North Carolina or Louisiana. Did you notice that those years were before 1964?
   2. Four years after Goldwater, the segregationist vote went right back to Democrats: Humphrey got half of Wallace’s supporters on election day. Nixon got none of ‘em. “When the '68 campaign began, Nixon was at 42 percent, Humphrey at 29 percent, Wallace at 22 percent. When it ended, Nixon and Humphrey were tied at 43 percent, with Wallace at 13 percent. The 9 percent of the national vote that had been peeled off from Wallace had gone to Humphrey.” Pat Buchanan - The neocons & Nixon's southern strategy
   3. In ’76, Carter swept the South. Was Carter appealing to bigots….or is that only the case when Republicans win the South?
5. Reagan lost or barely won the Goldwater states…but Reagan won among young southern voters- but lost among seniors, those who has voted in ’48 and ’64. That meant that the segregationists never abandoned the Democrats: eventually they died or were outvoted by younger voters. Nope…after Thurmond’s run, the Dixiecrats went right back to voting for Democrats for another half century.
6. In writing about McGovern and Wallace, liberal luminary, Arthur Schlesinger, actually referred to Wallace voters as responding to their candidate’s “integrity”! “The primaries themselves, especially the success of McGovern and Wallace, provide the best evidence for the proposition that voters in 1972 care less about a candidate's stand on particular issues than they do about the candidate's integrity,…” How McGovern Will Win
   1. McGovern gave a tip-of-the-hat to the segregationist Wallace in his acceptance speech at the Democrat Convention. That was the exact midpoint between Goldwater and Reagan. So…what of the imaginary “southern strategy” where the Republicans were supposed to have a plan to appeal to racists?
   2. Democrat McGovern: “And I was as moved as well by the appearance in the Convention Hall of the Governor of Alabama, George Wallace. … Governor, we pray for your full recovery so you can stand up and speak out for all of those who see you as their champion.” ACCEPTANCE SPEECH OF SENATOR GEORGE MCGOVERN

Wise up, you dope.

1964...note the red states for Goldwater

1968...note the orange states for Wallace (NOT Democrat, btw...blue is Democrat)

1972...note the red states from 1964 also voting red in 1972 even tho Political Chic said they went back Democrat

1976...the exception that proves the rule (Carter was a southerner)

1980...Georgia voted for Carter...no surprise there

1984....South all Republican red

1988...South all Republican red

1992...some Southern blue...Clinton was from Arkansas and Bush had destroyed the economy

1996...there's that GOP Southern block again

2000...and yet again

2004...and yet again

2008...and yet again

2012...and yet again

2016...and yet again

 

[P@triot]

You're using labels that no longer carry the same meaning to distort history.

You mean like you dirt-bag leftists do when you hilariously refer to yourselves as “liberals”?

 

[P@triot]

People from the right that claim that the KKK was born from the left either have absolutely no integrity or they don't have a strong understanding of history.

People on the left who blatantly deny historical facts lack integrity more.