Leftists, You Did This to Yourself

because to those people, jobs and a real future became more important than PC bullshit.

No. The union people, or labor generally, that supported Trump supported him because he presented himself as a protectionist. An anti-free trade, anti-NAFTA protectionist. Hillary Clinton was seen as the opposite.

Idiocy!

No group that wants higher pay and benefits for its members will support a party that wants to bring in millions of people that drive wages and benefits downward.

The exit polls don't support your claim.

With all due respect, Carbineer...the exit polls didn't support much of anything...just saying. They got it so wrong it's almost laughable.

The exit polls show exactly how Trump won states like Ohio, Wisconsin, and Michigan.


wrong, the actual votes show how he won those states, he got more votes than Hillary. its not really very complicated. You ran a bad candidate and she lost.
 
Clinton was leading by 3 when she made the statement and 5 weeks later was leading by 7.


The pollsters lied to you. Haven't you figured that out by now. They told you she was winning but she was really losing. They LIED and you bought into the lies. What does that say about you?

The national poll average was Hillary by 3.2%. Hillary's current lead, with more votes to count, is 2%.


doesn't matter. we use the EC to select presidents. Its over, she lost, you lost, dems lost, libs lost, progressives lost. Sane people now control the whitehouse and both houses of congress. 2016 was a major rejection of liberalism and the democrat party. Until you deal with that reality, you dems will keep losing.

It does matter because it proves you're lying once again.

lying about what? are you smoking crack this morning?
 

So far, most of them have completely ignored the message of this great video.

Maybe at some point, after the shock wears off. I sure hope so.
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Excellent video Mac, but I think your ideas are falling on deaf ears. The far left is looking for an EXCUSE why they lost, not the REASON. If they create an excuse, then they can justify their positions and actions. I mean seriously Mac, I will not name any names from here, but how many far leftists that post could debate their views without calling someone a racist, etc to try and win the argument? This is why the left has been losing EVERYTHING but the Whitehouse for so long, they can not intellectually stand their ground. They think they have won the debate when someone shuts up because they call them names, but what they actually have done is cement that persons view that they ARE the thought police, and can not wait to get the people who give them power out of office! If 18 elections were tomorrow, besides a solid blue states, with all the whining going on by the left LOOKING for excuses, they would be lucky to keep 50% of their seats in the senate in purple, or red states.


The Democrats thought that with the success of DumBama, people were warming up to Socialism/ Communism. But the truth is we were rejecting their ideas, we just liked Obama personally.

The two outstanding (and historic) midterms elections should have tipped them off, but it didn't. So they pushed their agenda even harder. The harder they pushed, the less America liked it.
 
“Clinton’s own polling people found the big turning point was when she called Trump voters a ‘basket of deplorables.’ Americans don’t like being talked down to, and had already gotten rid of Romney for the same sin. The spectacle of Clinton taking hundreds of thousands of dollars to give a speech to the people who put them out of their homes in 2008-9 also turned many of them off so that they stayed home, while another section of them decided to take a chance on Trump. He will screw them over, but from their point of view, they worried that she might have, as well. Trump was promising to stop the hemorrhaging of jobs via protectionism, whereas everyone understood that Sec. Clinton’s first instinct was to do TPP and send more jobs to Asia. So it was Clinton’s public persona and public positions that hurt her and depressed Democratic turnout in places like Detroit and Flint, not anything in Wikileaks (can anyone name even one newsworthy email?)”

No, America, it wasn't Russia: You did it to Yourself

Vote for us because you're too stupid to make up your own mind didn't turn out to be a winning message for them, did it?
 
because to those people, jobs and a real future became more important than PC bullshit.

No. The union people, or labor generally, that supported Trump supported him because he presented himself as a protectionist. An anti-free trade, anti-NAFTA protectionist. Hillary Clinton was seen as the opposite.

Idiocy!

No group that wants higher pay and benefits for its members will support a party that wants to bring in millions of people that drive wages and benefits downward.

The exit polls don't support your claim.

With all due respect, Carbineer...the exit polls didn't support much of anything...just saying. They got it so wrong it's almost laughable.

The exit polls show exactly how Trump won states like Ohio, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

Exit polls are only reliable if people answer the questions honestly. When you on the left promote that Trump supporters are generally uneducated racist white deplorable people, how can you expect to get honest exit poll results when you ask them who they voted for?
 
No. The union people, or labor generally, that supported Trump supported him because he presented himself as a protectionist. An anti-free trade, anti-NAFTA protectionist. Hillary Clinton was seen as the opposite.

Idiocy!

No group that wants higher pay and benefits for its members will support a party that wants to bring in millions of people that drive wages and benefits downward.

The exit polls don't support your claim.

With all due respect, Carbineer...the exit polls didn't support much of anything...just saying. They got it so wrong it's almost laughable.

The exit polls show exactly how Trump won states like Ohio, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

Exit polls are only reliable if people answer the questions honestly. When you on the left promote that Trump supporters are generally uneducated racist white deplorable people, how can you expect to get honest exit poll results when you ask them who they voted for?

This of course being the polls ... that were wrong ...
 
The spectacle of Clinton taking hundreds of thousands of dollars to give a speech to the people who put them out of their homes in 2008-9 also turned many of them off so that they stayed home, while another section of them decided to take a chance on Trump.

And then Trump nominated the same people who put them out their homes but when it's Trump it's always a good reason. Hillary? Bad reason.

And Republicans post shit like this pretending that being foreclosed on is a bad thing AND the king of Foreclosures being in the Administration is a good thing.
Are you typing from your safe space now?

You think your zingers will protext you from the same bunch you feared just a month ago? Bankers, insiders, elitist and you defend them as if there is something in it for you. Sad.
No snowflake....Trump will do that!!!!!!

I've never felt safeer from you fascist democrats.....

Trump will protect you from the people he told you to fear and then hired? ROFLMAO!!!!
 
The spectacle of Clinton taking hundreds of thousands of dollars to give a speech to the people who put them out of their homes in 2008-9 also turned many of them off so that they stayed home, while another section of them decided to take a chance on Trump.

And then Trump nominated the same people who put them out their homes but when it's Trump it's always a good reason. Hillary? Bad reason.

And Republicans post shit like this pretending that being foreclosed on is a bad thing AND the king of Foreclosures being in the Administration is a good thing.
Are you typing from your safe space now?

You think your zingers will protext you from the same bunch you feared just a month ago? Bankers, insiders, elitist and you defend them as if there is something in it for you. Sad.
No snowflake....Trump will do that!!!!!!

I've never felt safeer from you fascist democrats.....

Trump will protect you from the people he told you to fear and then hired? ROFLMAO!!!!

You down't grasp draining the swamp because you are the swamp, klown
 
No. The union people, or labor generally, that supported Trump supported him because he presented himself as a protectionist. An anti-free trade, anti-NAFTA protectionist. Hillary Clinton was seen as the opposite.

Idiocy!

No group that wants higher pay and benefits for its members will support a party that wants to bring in millions of people that drive wages and benefits downward.

The exit polls don't support your claim.


Geez, wake up, the exit pollsters LIED. Do you not understand that?

So you support the OP's claims, which are based on polls, but all polls lie.

You're fucking retarded.

Still want to tell us how Trump is leading in the popular vote?


The OP is about why you libs lost. are you in the right thread?

Then you should have read the OP.

Here's the first line:

“Clinton’s own polling people found the big turning point was when she called Trump voters a ‘basket of deplorables.’ "

I made a certain word bigger for you.
 
And then Trump nominated the same people who put them out their homes but when it's Trump it's always a good reason. Hillary? Bad reason.

And Republicans post shit like this pretending that being foreclosed on is a bad thing AND the king of Foreclosures being in the Administration is a good thing.
Are you typing from your safe space now?

You think your zingers will protext you from the same bunch you feared just a month ago? Bankers, insiders, elitist and you defend them as if there is something in it for you. Sad.
No snowflake....Trump will do that!!!!!!

I've never felt safeer from you fascist democrats.....

Trump will protect you from the people he told you to fear and then hired? ROFLMAO!!!!

You down't grasp draining the swamp because you are the swamp, klown

Like someone said the other day, Trump is draining the swamp,

right into his administration.
 
No. The union people, or labor generally, that supported Trump supported him because he presented himself as a protectionist. An anti-free trade, anti-NAFTA protectionist. Hillary Clinton was seen as the opposite.

Idiocy!

No group that wants higher pay and benefits for its members will support a party that wants to bring in millions of people that drive wages and benefits downward.

The exit polls don't support your claim.

With all due respect, Carbineer...the exit polls didn't support much of anything...just saying. They got it so wrong it's almost laughable.

The exit polls show exactly how Trump won states like Ohio, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

Exit polls are only reliable if people answer the questions honestly. When you on the left promote that Trump supporters are generally uneducated racist white deplorable people, how can you expect to get honest exit poll results when you ask them who they voted for?

IOW, if the exit polls don't support something you agree with, they must be wrong.

So:

The exit polls said that 42% of voters think international trade takes American jobs.

Trump won those voters 2 to 1.

You think that's about people LYING? What are they lying about?
 
This election wasn't really about who voted for Trump, Frigid...it was more about who DIDN'T vote for Clinton and why they didn't turn out for her!

She alienated the young liberal vote with what Debbie Wasserman Schultz did to Bernie Sanders. Making DWS an "Honorary Chairperson" of the Clinton campaign right after she was forced to step down during the Democratic Convention was one of the dumbest political moves I've ever seen. It was a poke in the eye for all those people who supported Sanders and worked hard for him...one more example of Hillary Clinton thinking she was "entitled" to liberal votes.

Wrong. Thousands of union voters in the rust belt flipped from Democrat to Trump and that is what won him the 3 states he needed to win the electoral vote.


because to those people, jobs and a real future became more important than PC bullshit.

No. The union people, or labor generally, that supported Trump supported him because he presented himself as a protectionist. An anti-free trade, anti-NAFTA protectionist. Hillary Clinton was seen as the opposite.

Idiocy!

No group that wants higher pay and benefits for its members will support a party that wants to bring in millions of people that drive wages and benefits downward.

The exit polls don't support your claim.

Is Hillary president? The exit polls are a farce
 
Clinton was leading by 3 when she made the statement and 5 weeks later was leading by 7.


The pollsters lied to you. Haven't you figured that out by now. They told you she was winning but she was really losing. They LIED and you bought into the lies. What does that say about you?

The national poll average was Hillary by 3.2%. Hillary's current lead, with more votes to count, is 2%.

It needed to be 3.9. If you read my posts you would have known that
 
The spectacle of Clinton taking hundreds of thousands of dollars to give a speech to the people who put them out of their homes in 2008-9 also turned many of them off so that they stayed home, while another section of them decided to take a chance on Trump.

And then Trump nominated the same people who put them out their homes but when it's Trump it's always a good reason. Hillary? Bad reason.

And Republicans post shit like this pretending that being foreclosed on is a bad thing AND the king of Foreclosures being in the Administration is a good thing.
Are you typing from your safe space now?

You think your zingers will protext you from the same bunch you feared just a month ago? Bankers, insiders, elitist and you defend them as if there is something in it for you. Sad.
No snowflake....Trump will do that!!!!!!

I've never felt safeer from you fascist democrats.....

Trump will protect you from the people he told you to fear and then hired? ROFLMAO!!!!
You are,,aren't you....
 
“Clinton’s own polling people found the big turning point was when she called Trump voters a ‘basket of deplorables.’ Americans don’t like being talked down to, and had already gotten rid of Romney for the same sin. The spectacle of Clinton taking hundreds of thousands of dollars to give a speech to the people who put them out of their homes in 2008-9 also turned many of them off so that they stayed home, while another section of them decided to take a chance on Trump. He will screw them over, but from their point of view, they worried that she might have, as well. Trump was promising to stop the hemorrhaging of jobs via protectionism, whereas everyone understood that Sec. Clinton’s first instinct was to do TPP and send more jobs to Asia. So it was Clinton’s public persona and public positions that hurt her and depressed Democratic turnout in places like Detroit and Flint, not anything in Wikileaks (can anyone name even one newsworthy email?)”

No, America, it wasn't Russia: You did it to Yourself

So, Trump insults, insults, insults and insults, then Hillary makes one insult and it cost her the election?

Did I just hear someone say the US is totally fucked up?
Also you sexual pervert want men in girls locker rooms. Americans had enough, expect Californians home of the fruits and nuts.
 
“Clinton’s own polling people found the big turning point was when she called Trump voters a ‘basket of deplorables.’ Americans don’t like being talked down to, and had already gotten rid of Romney for the same sin. The spectacle of Clinton taking hundreds of thousands of dollars to give a speech to the people who put them out of their homes in 2008-9 also turned many of them off so that they stayed home, while another section of them decided to take a chance on Trump. He will screw them over, but from their point of view, they worried that she might have, as well. Trump was promising to stop the hemorrhaging of jobs via protectionism, whereas everyone understood that Sec. Clinton’s first instinct was to do TPP and send more jobs to Asia. So it was Clinton’s public persona and public positions that hurt her and depressed Democratic turnout in places like Detroit and Flint, not anything in Wikileaks (can anyone name even one newsworthy email?)”

No, America, it wasn't Russia: You did it to Yourself

So, Trump insults, insults, insults and insults, then Hillary makes one insult and it cost her the election?

Did I just hear someone say the US is totally fucked up?

So who did Trump insult in mass? Hillary basically said that Trump voters are homophobic, racist, sexist, pigs. Yeah, I think that one insult pales in comparison to whatever Trump said. She insulted tens of millions of people in that one comment.

What you on the left don't understand is the country is growing weary with these categories you place everybody in. If you say Obama is an idiot, it's not long before some brainwashed lefty comes along and claims the comment was racist.

People are sick of it already. It was old 20 years ago and it's old today.
Only the illegal immigrants that rape and kill fellow Americans. Liberals see them as fine Democrat voters.
 
Idiocy!

No group that wants higher pay and benefits for its members will support a party that wants to bring in millions of people that drive wages and benefits downward.

The exit polls don't support your claim.

With all due respect, Carbineer...the exit polls didn't support much of anything...just saying. They got it so wrong it's almost laughable.

The exit polls show exactly how Trump won states like Ohio, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

Exit polls are only reliable if people answer the questions honestly. When you on the left promote that Trump supporters are generally uneducated racist white deplorable people, how can you expect to get honest exit poll results when you ask them who they voted for?

IOW, if the exit polls don't support something you agree with, they must be wrong.

So:

The exit polls said that 42% of voters think international trade takes American jobs.

Trump won those voters 2 to 1.

You think that's about people LYING? What are they lying about?

International trade is not a controversial subject--who one might vote for President is, and the left made it that way.

We went through the same thing in the Kerry race. In fact, leftists went as far to suggest that we do away with voting and just pick a President using exit polls. So what are the similarities? Both candidates were heavily demonized by the left and the MSM. If you make people feel insecure or guilty about voting for Bush or Trump, it's likely that some people will not give you a truthful answer how they did vote.

Others of course just give false answers because they are annoyed by somebody asking them how they just voted. While I've never been polled (and would be happy to do it) I know people that have and said they gave the pollster the exact opposite answer of how they voted.

The bottom line is that exit polling is not a science. It's not indicative of anything. If people answer honestly, yes, it could give you a clue as to what the voting public thinks. If they give you false information, they will post that false information unknowingly.
 
“Clinton’s own polling people found the big turning point was when she called Trump voters a ‘basket of deplorables.’ Americans don’t like being talked down to, and had already gotten rid of Romney for the same sin. The spectacle of Clinton taking hundreds of thousands of dollars to give a speech to the people who put them out of their homes in 2008-9 also turned many of them off so that they stayed home, while another section of them decided to take a chance on Trump. He will screw them over, but from their point of view, they worried that she might have, as well. Trump was promising to stop the hemorrhaging of jobs via protectionism, whereas everyone understood that Sec. Clinton’s first instinct was to do TPP and send more jobs to Asia. So it was Clinton’s public persona and public positions that hurt her and depressed Democratic turnout in places like Detroit and Flint, not anything in Wikileaks (can anyone name even one newsworthy email?)”

No, America, it wasn't Russia: You did it to Yourself

So, Trump insults, insults, insults and insults, then Hillary makes one insult and it cost her the election?

Did I just hear someone say the US is totally fucked up?

So who did Trump insult in mass? Hillary basically said that Trump voters are homophobic, racist, sexist, pigs. Yeah, I think that one insult pales in comparison to whatever Trump said. She insulted tens of millions of people in that one comment.

What you on the left don't understand is the country is growing weary with these categories you place everybody in. If you say Obama is an idiot, it's not long before some brainwashed lefty comes along and claims the comment was racist.

People are sick of it already. It was old 20 years ago and it's old today.

Oh, you mean that Trump didn't insult Mexicans, POWs, women, the disabled, yeah, right if you think Hillary trumped that then... well... you're just playing the sill partisan bullshit game. I mean, for someone who called Obama a silly name as if you're still in high school....

Awwww, butt hurt because I called DumBama names? Talk about high school.

Trump did insult people who were Mexican, women, and yes, disabled. Those were insults to individual people, not an entire class of them.

As long as you leftists keep on blaming everybody else for your losses, then you'll never be able to figure out why you lost in the first place. But Bush!!! But Trump!!!!! But McConnell!!!!

Don't get me wrong, I hope you on the left continue down that track. You did nothing wrong, it's everything else that's Fd up. Keep believing it.

Oh fucking jesus. "butt hurt because I called DumBama names"?

You do realize this is a POLITICAL FORUM and not a little kids' playground don't you?

I really, really don't understand why people people feel the need to act like this when they come to places like this.
 

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