LESTER HOLT WAS WRONG ABOUT STOP AND FRISK - Wall Street Journal

. And you live in Chicago (high crime area), where stop and frisk isn't in play maybe ?? What do you suggest in that situation ? Maybe carry around a bag of yummy marshmallows in order to get peace going again ? Maybe go back to having all sit down with the peace pipe, smoke some doobies, eat some munchies, and sing cumbaya together ???
its interesting how republicans become the biggest supporters of gun control when its directed solely at blacks and hispanics, its almost as if the republican party is a white supremacist organization

It is interesting that you blame Republcans for gun control. The strictest gun laws in the country are in Chicago and Democrats have ruled there for decades. That last GOP Mayor was elected in 1927.
thats a myth Chicago gun laws not as strict as GOP candidates claim

OK so I clicked on your link...
No gun store has opened in the city yet. That means that every gun owned legally or illegally came from somewhere else. Just how many is unclear, but Chicago's police department seizes more illegal weapons than any other in the nation — nearly 20 a day for a total of 5,500 so far this year.

Mayor Rahm Emanuel released a report that blames gun sales elsewhere for much of Chicago's street violence.
It said nearly 60 percent of recovered guns used to commit crimes in Chicago from 2009 through 2013 were first sold in states with more lax gun laws. Neighboring Indiana was the biggest source, with 19 percent of all recovered guns having been sold there first. But they came from far and wide, with Mississippi second at 6.7 percent

Let me get this straight. You and this article say it is a myth Chicago has strict gun laws.... YET the mayor says gun sales are from states with more lax gun laws???

Does that make any sense? If there are lax gun laws in Chicago then why go to other states to buy guns?

You can't have it both ways !
Its a myth that they have stongest gun laws in america, especially since you can take a 15 minute drive to a state with almost no gun laws whatsoever, do you think criminals don't know how to drive cars yet? also chicago doesn't have near the highest murder rate in America, republicans spread these lies about it being the most violent city and having the strictest gun laws because obama is from chicago.and like you theyre lying racist assholes with no self respect

So your saying criminals ignore gun laws?
 
To say it doesn't work is disingenuous. I mean a lot of illegal guns were confiscated during stop and frisk. And the bottom line is stop and frisk changed the trajectory of gun violence in NYC.

Along with other programs being instituted which never get mentioned in the conversation. The stop and frisk program ended and the stats haven't blown up.
. Hey it takes a while to revert back to something after it has been halted or severely lessened. Give it time just like everything else when taking the eye off the ball, and it will hit you right in the face again. Sometimes criminals figure out how to put the pressure on through proxy's in order to convince the law to back off and/or get the laws changed in order to revert back to what they might want to get going again. We are the fools who fall for it before the coast has been cleared.
So not only are you a moron you're blind......please accept my condolences for your afflictions.
blind to what?

You're either a partisan hack or a moron....
you still haven't said anything, what am I blind too? what are you even talking about? are you okay?

Sorry,I wont play the game that all you progressive morons try and play.
You dipshits do this constantly,why I dont know because it makes you look like an idiot.

You just carry on pretending and I'll continue ignoring you.
its called "debate" you should try it instead of spewing racial slurs, you might learn something other than how to fuck your cousin

What racial slurs?
 
so it black people's fault for getting shot by police because they a race dont raise their children right? godamn it takes a real crazy person to take chris jokes seriously and try make a politcal message in favor of racist police tactics from it.

Maybe if their fathers weren't being arrested from the age of 12, didn't grow up in segregated ghettos, and weren't discriminated against at work they wouldn't be as many single mothers for you to scapegoat? which is the only reason why YOU are bringing up single mothers, to use them as a scapegoat

Healths post was spot on,and research shows that.
And the eye test confirms it.
whats the "eye test"? does that mean it confirms your pre conceived racist opinion so it must be true?

So not only are you a moron you're blind......please accept my condolences for your afflictions.
blind to what?

You're either a partisan hack or a moron....


perhaps both
 
so your advocating more racist police tactics? who cares if its unconstitutional or not? Advocates against stop and frisk aren't retards who hide behind legal loopholes. There are real reasons why stop and frisk should be stopped and whether or not the judge who ruled it unconsitutional or not was biased against cops, isn't one of them and shouldn't matter. It is a distraction from the issue and couldn't be more of a non-answer. You would think with protests in every major city against racist police violence that suggesting a policy that was ruled was ruled racist and unconstiutional would be the last thing a major politician would tie himself too. Much less one who has already been accused of racism multiple times, for mutliple reasons.

I guess we can add the fact that Donald supports stop and frisk, to the long list of reasons of why donald trump is racist. Thanks to nothing but his own ignorant, undeducated, big mouth

I don't have a problem with stop and frisk in high crime areas. Why would anyone?
im guessing you dont live in a "high crime area"
. And you live in Chicago (high crime area), where stop and frisk isn't in play maybe ?? What do you suggest in that situation ? Maybe carry around a bag of yummy marshmallows in order to get peace going again ? Maybe go back to having all sit down with the peace pipe, smoke some doobies, eat some munchies, and sing cumbaya together ???
its interesting how republicans become the biggest supporters of gun control when its directed solely at blacks and hispanics, its almost as if the republican party is a white supremacist organization
. Try directed at high crime areas where it just so happens that blacks are the majority offenders in the area (killing each other with impunity), but don't let facts get in the way right ? Maybe less focus on skin color so problems can be solved ?
 
Holt was right. It was ruled unconstitutional.

The program doesn't work.

Stop and frisk was never ruled COMPLETELY unConstitutional. It's based on a favorable SupCt ruling from 1968 allowing police officers that power. The judge that issued the Injunction (and later removed for the decision) ruled only that the METHOD and WAYS it was implemented in NYC under Bloomberg were unconstitutional. If adequate restraint and lack of bias is shown -- it most certainly IS Constitutional.
 
so your advocating more racist police tactics? who cares if its unconstitutional or not? Advocates against stop and frisk aren't retards who hide behind legal loopholes. There are real reasons why stop and frisk should be stopped and whether or not the judge who ruled it unconsitutional or not was biased against cops, isn't one of them and shouldn't matter. It is a distraction from the issue and couldn't be more of a non-answer. You would think with protests in every major city against racist police violence that suggesting a policy that was ruled was ruled racist and unconstiutional would be the last thing a major politician would tie himself too. Much less one who has already been accused of racism multiple times, for mutliple reasons.

I guess we can add the fact that Donald supports stop and frisk, to the long list of reasons of why donald trump is racist. Thanks to nothing but his own ignorant, undeducated, big mouth

You poor ill educated child....your boy Bill Clinton signed an Executive Order ok'ing Physical searches WITHOUT a warrant.
 
so your advocating more racist police tactics? who cares if its unconstitutional or not? Advocates against stop and frisk aren't retards who hide behind legal loopholes. There are real reasons why stop and frisk should be stopped and whether or not the judge who ruled it unconsitutional or not was biased against cops, isn't one of them and shouldn't matter. It is a distraction from the issue and couldn't be more of a non-answer. You would think with protests in every major city against racist police violence that suggesting a policy that was ruled was ruled racist and unconstiutional would be the last thing a major politician would tie himself too. Much less one who has already been accused of racism multiple times, for mutliple reasons.

I guess we can add the fact that Donald supports stop and frisk, to the long list of reasons of why donald trump is racist. Thanks to nothing but his own ignorant, undeducated, big mouth

I don't have a problem with stop and frisk in high crime areas. Why would anyone?
im guessing you dont live in a "high crime area"
. And you live in Chicago (high crime area), where stop and frisk isn't in play maybe ?? What do you suggest in that situation ? Maybe carry around a bag of yummy marshmallows in order to get peace going again ? Maybe go back to having all sit down with the peace pipe, smoke some doobies, eat some munchies, and sing cumbaya together ???
its interesting how republicans become the biggest supporters of gun control when its directed solely at blacks and hispanics, its almost as if the republican party is a white supremacist organization
. Try directed at high crime areas where it just so happens that blacks are the majority offenders in the area (killing each other with impunity), but don't let facts get in the way right ? Maybe less focus on skin color so problems can be solved ?

did you seriously just go on a racist rant about black people and then end it by saying we shouldn't focus on skin color? which is it? should we blame all crime on black people and murder them all? or should we not focus on race?

stupid nazis
 
so your advocating more racist police tactics? who cares if its unconstitutional or not? Advocates against stop and frisk aren't retards who hide behind legal loopholes. There are real reasons why stop and frisk should be stopped and whether or not the judge who ruled it unconsitutional or not was biased against cops, isn't one of them and shouldn't matter. It is a distraction from the issue and couldn't be more of a non-answer. You would think with protests in every major city against racist police violence that suggesting a policy that was ruled was ruled racist and unconstiutional would be the last thing a major politician would tie himself too. Much less one who has already been accused of racism multiple times, for mutliple reasons.

I guess we can add the fact that Donald supports stop and frisk, to the long list of reasons of why donald trump is racist. Thanks to nothing but his own ignorant, undeducated, big mouth

You poor ill educated child....your boy Bill Clinton signed an Executive Order ok'ing Physical searches WITHOUT a warrant.
you just made that up
 
I don't have a problem with stop and frisk in high crime areas. Why would anyone?
im guessing you dont live in a "high crime area"
. And you live in Chicago (high crime area), where stop and frisk isn't in play maybe ?? What do you suggest in that situation ? Maybe carry around a bag of yummy marshmallows in order to get peace going again ? Maybe go back to having all sit down with the peace pipe, smoke some doobies, eat some munchies, and sing cumbaya together ???
its interesting how republicans become the biggest supporters of gun control when its directed solely at blacks and hispanics, its almost as if the republican party is a white supremacist organization

It is interesting that you blame Republcans for gun control. The strictest gun laws in the country are in Chicago and Democrats have ruled there for decades. That last GOP Mayor was elected in 1927.
thats a myth Chicago gun laws not as strict as GOP candidates claim

That myth is being put out by the MSM because Trump said they were the strictest, and you fell for it.

"The reality is that Illinois has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation. Indeed, even the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence ranks Illinois 8th among the ten states with the strongest gun laws and awarded it a B+ rating in 2015."

Read more: The Myth of Chicago’s “Lax” Gun Laws
 
I don't have a problem with stop and frisk in high crime areas. Why would anyone?
im guessing you dont live in a "high crime area"
. And you live in Chicago (high crime area), where stop and frisk isn't in play maybe ?? What do you suggest in that situation ? Maybe carry around a bag of yummy marshmallows in order to get peace going again ? Maybe go back to having all sit down with the peace pipe, smoke some doobies, eat some munchies, and sing cumbaya together ???
its interesting how republicans become the biggest supporters of gun control when its directed solely at blacks and hispanics, its almost as if the republican party is a white supremacist organization
. Try directed at high crime areas where it just so happens that blacks are the majority offenders in the area (killing each other with impunity), but don't let facts get in the way right ? Maybe less focus on skin color so problems can be solved ?

did you seriously just go on a racist rant about black people and then end it by saying we shouldn't focus on skin color? which is it? should we blame all crime on black people and murder them all? or should we not focus on race?

stupid nazis
. You are the stone cold racist here, but what's amazing is that you think we can't see it... wow. So if anyone here takes your bait, and says anything about you talking about black, black, black, then we are the racist as soon as we respond ???? Your a race baiting hack is what you are, and no matter what, the facts are against you. Oh and this applies to Lester Holt also, and it didn't work when he tried his race baiting bull crap on Trump.
 
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so your advocating more racist police tactics? who cares if its unconstitutional or not? Advocates against stop and frisk aren't retards who hide behind legal loopholes. There are real reasons why stop and frisk should be stopped and whether or not the judge who ruled it unconsitutional or not was biased against cops, isn't one of them and shouldn't matter. It is a distraction from the issue and couldn't be more of a non-answer. You would think with protests in every major city against racist police violence that suggesting a policy that was ruled was ruled racist and unconstiutional would be the last thing a major politician would tie himself too. Much less one who has already been accused of racism multiple times, for mutliple reasons.

I guess we can add the fact that Donald supports stop and frisk, to the long list of reasons of why donald trump is racist. Thanks to nothing but his own ignorant, undeducated, big mouth

You poor ill educated child....your boy Bill Clinton signed an Executive Order ok'ing Physical searches WITHOUT a warrant.
you just made that up

You've SO much to learn.....

"Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the Attorney General


is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire


foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney


General makes the certifications required by that section.


Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized


to approve applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court


under section 303 of the Act to obtain orders for physical searches for


the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence information.


Sec. 3. Pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, the following officials,


each of whom is employed in the area of national security or defense,


is designated to make the certifications required by section 303(a)(7) of


the Act in support of applications to conduct physical searches:"


https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-1995-02-13/pdf/95-3671.pdf

You walked right into that one child.
 
im guessing you dont live in a "high crime area"
. And you live in Chicago (high crime area), where stop and frisk isn't in play maybe ?? What do you suggest in that situation ? Maybe carry around a bag of yummy marshmallows in order to get peace going again ? Maybe go back to having all sit down with the peace pipe, smoke some doobies, eat some munchies, and sing cumbaya together ???
its interesting how republicans become the biggest supporters of gun control when its directed solely at blacks and hispanics, its almost as if the republican party is a white supremacist organization
. Try directed at high crime areas where it just so happens that blacks are the majority offenders in the area (killing each other with impunity), but don't let facts get in the way right ? Maybe less focus on skin color so problems can be solved ?

did you seriously just go on a racist rant about black people and then end it by saying we shouldn't focus on skin color? which is it? should we blame all crime on black people and murder them all? or should we not focus on race?

stupid nazis
. You are the stone cold racist here, but what's amazing is that you think we can't see it... wow. So if anyone here takes your bait, and says anything about you talking about black, black, black, then we are the racist as soon as we respond ???? Your a race baiting hack is what you are, and no matter what the facts are against you.
your supporting a law found by the courts to be so racist that it vioaltes the 14th amendment, and your declaring that it needs more racist and target black people more... and im the racist because why again?
 
so your advocating more racist police tactics? who cares if its unconstitutional or not? Advocates against stop and frisk aren't retards who hide behind legal loopholes. There are real reasons why stop and frisk should be stopped and whether or not the judge who ruled it unconsitutional or not was biased against cops, isn't one of them and shouldn't matter. It is a distraction from the issue and couldn't be more of a non-answer. You would think with protests in every major city against racist police violence that suggesting a policy that was ruled was ruled racist and unconstiutional would be the last thing a major politician would tie himself too. Much less one who has already been accused of racism multiple times, for mutliple reasons.

I guess we can add the fact that Donald supports stop and frisk, to the long list of reasons of why donald trump is racist. Thanks to nothing but his own ignorant, undeducated, big mouth

You poor ill educated child....your boy Bill Clinton signed an Executive Order ok'ing Physical searches WITHOUT a warrant.
you just made that up

You've SO much to learn.....

"Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the Attorney General


is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire


foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney


General makes the certifications required by that section.


Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized


to approve applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court


under section 303 of the Act to obtain orders for physical searches for


the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence information.


Sec. 3. Pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, the following officials,


each of whom is employed in the area of national security or defense,


is designated to make the certifications required by section 303(a)(7) of


the Act in support of applications to conduct physical searches:"


https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-1995-02-13/pdf/95-3671.pdf

You walked right into that one child.
that has nothing to do with stop and frisk
 
. And you live in Chicago (high crime area), where stop and frisk isn't in play maybe ?? What do you suggest in that situation ? Maybe carry around a bag of yummy marshmallows in order to get peace going again ? Maybe go back to having all sit down with the peace pipe, smoke some doobies, eat some munchies, and sing cumbaya together ???
its interesting how republicans become the biggest supporters of gun control when its directed solely at blacks and hispanics, its almost as if the republican party is a white supremacist organization

It is interesting that you blame Republcans for gun control. The strictest gun laws in the country are in Chicago and Democrats have ruled there for decades. That last GOP Mayor was elected in 1927.
thats a myth Chicago gun laws not as strict as GOP candidates claim

OK so I clicked on your link...
No gun store has opened in the city yet. That means that every gun owned legally or illegally came from somewhere else. Just how many is unclear, but Chicago's police department seizes more illegal weapons than any other in the nation — nearly 20 a day for a total of 5,500 so far this year.

Mayor Rahm Emanuel released a report that blames gun sales elsewhere for much of Chicago's street violence.
It said nearly 60 percent of recovered guns used to commit crimes in Chicago from 2009 through 2013 were first sold in states with more lax gun laws. Neighboring Indiana was the biggest source, with 19 percent of all recovered guns having been sold there first. But they came from far and wide, with Mississippi second at 6.7 percent

Let me get this straight. You and this article say it is a myth Chicago has strict gun laws.... YET the mayor says gun sales are from states with more lax gun laws???

Does that make any sense? If there are lax gun laws in Chicago then why go to other states to buy guns?

You can't have it both ways !
Its a myth that they have stongest gun laws in america, especially since you can take a 15 minute drive to a state with almost no gun laws whatsoever, do you think criminals don't know how to drive cars yet? also chicago doesn't have near the highest murder rate in America, republicans spread these lies about it being the most violent city and having the strictest gun laws because obama is from chicago.and like you theyre lying racist assholes with no self respect

Nigga please...how many people have died in Chicago this year?
 
so your advocating more racist police tactics? who cares if its unconstitutional or not? Advocates against stop and frisk aren't retards who hide behind legal loopholes. There are real reasons why stop and frisk should be stopped and whether or not the judge who ruled it unconsitutional or not was biased against cops, isn't one of them and shouldn't matter. It is a distraction from the issue and couldn't be more of a non-answer. You would think with protests in every major city against racist police violence that suggesting a policy that was ruled was ruled racist and unconstiutional would be the last thing a major politician would tie himself too. Much less one who has already been accused of racism multiple times, for mutliple reasons.

I guess we can add the fact that Donald supports stop and frisk, to the long list of reasons of why donald trump is racist. Thanks to nothing but his own ignorant, undeducated, big mouth

You poor ill educated child....your boy Bill Clinton signed an Executive Order ok'ing Physical searches WITHOUT a warrant.
you just made that up

You've SO much to learn.....

"Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the Attorney General


is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire


foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney


General makes the certifications required by that section.


Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized


to approve applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court


under section 303 of the Act to obtain orders for physical searches for


the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence information.


Sec. 3. Pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, the following officials,


each of whom is employed in the area of national security or defense,


is designated to make the certifications required by section 303(a)(7) of


the Act in support of applications to conduct physical searches:"


https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-1995-02-13/pdf/95-3671.pdf

You walked right into that one child.
that has nothing to do with stop and frisk

Nigga please.....don't make me keep embarrassing you.

"Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the Attorney General

is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order"
 
. And you live in Chicago (high crime area), where stop and frisk isn't in play maybe ?? What do you suggest in that situation ? Maybe carry around a bag of yummy marshmallows in order to get peace going again ? Maybe go back to having all sit down with the peace pipe, smoke some doobies, eat some munchies, and sing cumbaya together ???
its interesting how republicans become the biggest supporters of gun control when its directed solely at blacks and hispanics, its almost as if the republican party is a white supremacist organization
. Try directed at high crime areas where it just so happens that blacks are the majority offenders in the area (killing each other with impunity), but don't let facts get in the way right ? Maybe less focus on skin color so problems can be solved ?

did you seriously just go on a racist rant about black people and then end it by saying we shouldn't focus on skin color? which is it? should we blame all crime on black people and murder them all? or should we not focus on race?

stupid nazis
. You are the stone cold racist here, but what's amazing is that you think we can't see it... wow. So if anyone here takes your bait, and says anything about you talking about black, black, black, then we are the racist as soon as we respond ???? Your a race baiting hack is what you are, and no matter what the facts are against you.
your supporting a law found by the courts to be so racist that it vioaltes the 14th amendment, and your declaring that it needs more racist and target black people more... and im the racist because why again?

The stop and frisk law was declared unconstitutional by ONE Judge who was later reprimanded by the appellate court. It was not appealed by the new Mayor, and it only applied to New York City.
 
its interesting how republicans become the biggest supporters of gun control when its directed solely at blacks and hispanics, its almost as if the republican party is a white supremacist organization

It is interesting that you blame Republcans for gun control. The strictest gun laws in the country are in Chicago and Democrats have ruled there for decades. That last GOP Mayor was elected in 1927.
thats a myth Chicago gun laws not as strict as GOP candidates claim

OK so I clicked on your link...
No gun store has opened in the city yet. That means that every gun owned legally or illegally came from somewhere else. Just how many is unclear, but Chicago's police department seizes more illegal weapons than any other in the nation — nearly 20 a day for a total of 5,500 so far this year.

Mayor Rahm Emanuel released a report that blames gun sales elsewhere for much of Chicago's street violence.
It said nearly 60 percent of recovered guns used to commit crimes in Chicago from 2009 through 2013 were first sold in states with more lax gun laws. Neighboring Indiana was the biggest source, with 19 percent of all recovered guns having been sold there first. But they came from far and wide, with Mississippi second at 6.7 percent

Let me get this straight. You and this article say it is a myth Chicago has strict gun laws.... YET the mayor says gun sales are from states with more lax gun laws???

Does that make any sense? If there are lax gun laws in Chicago then why go to other states to buy guns?

You can't have it both ways !
Its a myth that they have stongest gun laws in america, especially since you can take a 15 minute drive to a state with almost no gun laws whatsoever, do you think criminals don't know how to drive cars yet? also chicago doesn't have near the highest murder rate in America, republicans spread these lies about it being the most violent city and having the strictest gun laws because obama is from chicago.and like you theyre lying racist assholes with no self respect

Nigga please...how many people have died in Chicago this year?
theyre not even in the top 10 highest murder rate

List of United States cities by crime rate (2014) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
so your advocating more racist police tactics? who cares if its unconstitutional or not? Advocates against stop and frisk aren't retards who hide behind legal loopholes. There are real reasons why stop and frisk should be stopped and whether or not the judge who ruled it unconsitutional or not was biased against cops, isn't one of them and shouldn't matter. It is a distraction from the issue and couldn't be more of a non-answer. You would think with protests in every major city against racist police violence that suggesting a policy that was ruled was ruled racist and unconstiutional would be the last thing a major politician would tie himself too. Much less one who has already been accused of racism multiple times, for mutliple reasons.

I guess we can add the fact that Donald supports stop and frisk, to the long list of reasons of why donald trump is racist. Thanks to nothing but his own ignorant, undeducated, big mouth

You poor ill educated child....your boy Bill Clinton signed an Executive Order ok'ing Physical searches WITHOUT a warrant.
you just made that up

You've SO much to learn.....

"Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the Attorney General


is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire


foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney


General makes the certifications required by that section.


Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized


to approve applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court


under section 303 of the Act to obtain orders for physical searches for


the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence information.


Sec. 3. Pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, the following officials,


each of whom is employed in the area of national security or defense,


is designated to make the certifications required by section 303(a)(7) of


the Act in support of applications to conduct physical searches:"


https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-1995-02-13/pdf/95-3671.pdf

You walked right into that one child.
. A racist don't want facts, because it won't fit with their agenda don't you know.
 

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