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Majority of Republicans do not see value in a higher education

I agree that we should take steps to make it possible for people to stop going to college,

Take steps? Uh.... you're currently not going to college right now. Anybody can choose at any time not to go to college. I wouldn't advise it, because you'll probably be replaced by a self-serve kiosk in a year or 2. But nobody HAS to go to college ever.


Your pretense that there is not huge pressure to go to college is noted as further evidence of your dishonesty.
 
I agree that we should take steps to make it possible for people to stop going to college,

Take steps? Uh.... you're currently not going to college right now. Anybody can choose at any time not to go to college. I wouldn't advise it, because you'll probably be replaced by a self-serve kiosk in a year or 2. But nobody HAS to go to college ever.


Your pretense that there is not huge pressure to go to college is noted as further evidence of your dishonesty.
How do you propose eliminating pressure to go to college?
 
I agree that we should take steps to make it possible for people to stop going to college,

Take steps? Uh.... you're currently not going to college right now. Anybody can choose at any time not to go to college. I wouldn't advise it, because you'll probably be replaced by a self-serve kiosk in a year or 2. But nobody HAS to go to college ever.


Your pretense that there is not huge pressure to go to college is noted as further evidence of your dishonesty.
How do you propose eliminating pressure to go to college?


1. Reviewing and repealing unneeded degree inflation.

2. Increasing earlier access to college courses.

3. Encouraging and certifying online degrees as the software advances.

4. Allowing employers to ask for high school grades.

5. ect.

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I agree that we should take steps to make it possible for people to stop going to college,

Take steps? Uh.... you're currently not going to college right now. Anybody can choose at any time not to go to college. I wouldn't advise it, because you'll probably be replaced by a self-serve kiosk in a year or 2. But nobody HAS to go to college ever.


Your pretense that there is not huge pressure to go to college is noted as further evidence of your dishonesty.
How do you propose eliminating pressure to go to college?


1. Reviewing and repealing unneeded degree inflation.

2. Increasing earlier access to college courses.

3. Encouraging and certifying online degrees as the software advances.

4. Allowing employers to ask for high school grades.

5. ect.

.
All of that stuff already exists. You can get all kinds of degrees. That doesn't mean people are going to take them all equally seriously.
 
It's very simple. A professor or department would have to certify that a degree in the field of study will lead to employment.

If after two years, one third or more of graduates holding this degree have not found employment in which the degree is beneficial, the entire course is eliminated.
 
According to Pew research, By a steep 22-point margin, Republicans now believe American colleges and universities have a net negative effect on the country. In 2010, Republicans still said college was a good thing by a 26-point margin. So that’s a complete collapse in GOP support for higher education (self-identified Democrats and independents have always thought college is good by overwhelming, 40-point plus margins, and still do).
Trump represents the dumbing down of the USA


Your liberal professors are the reason. They are uselessness and only have jobs because they got tenure.

LOL

Q. Do you take pills to create your ignorance

A professor has earned an advanced degree in the subject matter in which they instruct Unless you are one of those who believe all research is funded by the special interests, and therefore all science is fake, your post is nothing more than an echo of a meme only believed by biddable fools.


Maybe in the old days, but really only being black is required. Anyone who wants a teaching job at a university needs to Kss the ring of the keepers of all the social issues. As far as your professors go, they suck. Their records show they suck. And it's glaringly evident in the qualifying of student they turn out which is typically unemployed and unable to comprehend from reading. Deny it all you want, but that's a fact.


In short, your professors don't have to do a good job. A mass stroke in government and our education system would be an awesome beautiful thing.


"In the old days"? When was that?

Your statement about anyone who wants to teach at a U. only needs to kiss ass and is a minority is absurd. Writing so provides a strong piece of evidence, you have never matriculated at a U.


Remember, "Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach."
 
Trump did not cause this loss of confidence in colleges and universities, the colleges and universities did that. Students are running up debts in the hundreds of thousands of dollars for degrees that do not improve their career prospects. Did you think people wouldn't notice?
But the point is a majority of all people's views are consistent over the years, and gopers have become outliers.

Since 2015, Republicans’ views of the impact of colleges have turned much more negative

And meanwhile Latinos are pursuing higher education at increasing rates

5 facts about Latinos and education

How many of those are illegals getting in-state tuition?
I'm not sure. How many brain dead gopers aren't taking advantage?

Colleges are full of conservatives. Unfortunately, they inhabit the business and engineering schools and thus don't have time to protest and make themselves nuisances.
 
According to Pew research, By a steep 22-point margin, Republicans now believe American colleges and universities have a net negative effect on the country. In 2010, Republicans still said college was a good thing by a 26-point margin. So that’s a complete collapse in GOP support for higher education (self-identified Democrats and independents have always thought college is good by overwhelming, 40-point plus margins, and still do).
Trump represents the dumbing down of the USA


Your liberal professors are the reason. They are uselessness and only have jobs because they got tenure.

LOL

Q. Do you take pills to create your ignorance

A professor has earned an advanced degree in the subject matter in which they instruct Unless you are one of those who believe all research is funded by the special interests, and therefore all science is fake, your post is nothing more than an echo of a meme only believed by biddable fools.


Maybe in the old days, but really only being black is required. Anyone who wants a teaching job at a university needs to Kss the ring of the keepers of all the social issues. As far as your professors go, they suck. Their records show they suck. And it's glaringly evident in the qualifying of student they turn out which is typically unemployed and unable to comprehend from reading. Deny it all you want, but that's a fact.


In short, your professors don't have to do a good job. A mass stroke in government and our education system would be an awesome beautiful thing.


"In the old days"? When was that?

Your statement about anyone who wants to teach at a U. only needs to kiss ass and is a minority is absurd. Writing so provides a strong piece of evidence, you have never matriculated at a U.


Remember, "Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach."

Wrong.
 
How many journeymen tradesmen are currently employed? How many MBAs are they making what journeymen tradesmen are making?
You have the mentality of a ten year old.
How many 'MBAs are making a million a year?
You can't count Webb Hubble's daughter Chelsea.
Even though she's already been awarded a "Lifetime Achievement' award for doing fuck all.
Like BONOBO got from the Nobel Prize committee populated by Socialists, for getting up in the morning.

Let me clue you in on something professor.
People don't spend $100K or more to get an MBA to make $100K/yr.

It's obvious that you are clueless.

Uh, yes they do! If you make $100K a year for ten years, you have made a million bucks and your college loans are only 10% of that!

Why can't liberals read or do math? Are they all middle school dropouts?

Except MBAs will be making much more than that after a decade. Far surpassing their peers in the trades. That was the point, dumbass.

Then that is what you should have said.

Or simply learn to read and think critically.

The inability to read and think critically would make liberals out of them, without a doubt.
 
Isn't it ironic that only the uneducated believe that an education isn't necessary and is even undesirable? Even more so when they're told this by well educated people who ensure their own children are well educated as well.

I wonder why none of the Trump kids went into the trades?

They have the ability. Some people do not.
 
Liberals are such children. Tell them that their expensive education in Early Celtic Transgender Basketweaving is worthless and they will immediately scream back "you don't want me to be a heart surgeon!"
A degree in basket weaving, sadly, is the equivalent of being a coal miner or a machinist or many other manual jobs that are declining or have gone away.
If the critics of worthless degrees must look at those with worthless skills as the same.
The key is to have a skill or a degree that will get you a job
Umm no it's not. You can't live without machinists and coal miners. Just because a job isn't happening in front of you doesn't mean you can get by without it being done.
Yes we need Coal Miners and factory workers but less than in the past and the demand is declining and will continue to decline. That is why there are so many unemployed coal miners and factory workers. There are still professional basket weavers but the demand is declining. There are still jobs making buggy whips. The key is to have a skill where there are as many jobs as there are people with the skill.

So I guess the huge coal mine they just opened in Pennsylvania is a fluke? You people spend too much time getting your info from bad sources.
 
The key is getting these students to understand that they are not special. Their brilliance is not immediately recognizable and they are in competition with the world.

It is not politically correct to say so but when that graduate enters the workforce he and she will be in competition with graduates from India, China, Korea, Iran, who did not attend the protest against Ann Coulter. People who brought their A game every single day.

Instead these absolute idiots will mewel "you don't want me to get a college education ".

How about this "Dolt, you don't deserve a college education. Now get in the garage and learn how to do something useful. Make toothpicks. "
Are students with frivolous degrees any different than factory workers or other manual laborers whose skills are in much lesser demand or no demand at all.
They feel the economy and the world should change so they can use the skills they have.
Absolutely those with nonsense degrees are different than those who technology has displaced. Displaced workers made lives, had families and mortgages. They didn't decide to have a useless skill.
Donald Trump has 100% of his cabinet with a college degree. Close to 100% of his staff has a college degree..
Where are those with out a college degree represented in his administration?

Maybe you should apply?
 
No one said they weren't. There are plenty of skilled trades where one can excel and do well. That in no way diminishes the need for a more formal path for those who choose to set their sights a little higher.
"sights a little higher"?????
I respect a journeyman heavy duty mechanic far more than some LIB man-bun pussy who teaches LIB indoctrination to gullible teenagers anyday.

How about the MBA that makes anywhere from $250K to well over a MIL?
How many journeymen tradesmen are currently employed? How many MBAs are they making what journeymen tradesmen are making?
You have the mentality of a ten year old.
How many 'MBAs are making a million a year?
You can't count Webb Hubble's daughter Chelsea.
Even though she's already been awarded a "Lifetime Achievement' award for doing fuck all.
Like BONOBO got from the Nobel Prize committee populated by Socialists, for getting up in the morning.

Let me clue you in on something professor.
People don't spend $100K or more to get an MBA to make $100K/yr.

It's obvious that you are clueless.
I have a MBA . I graduated without any debt.

That's a Mo Better Associates degree, right?
 
Liberals are such children. Tell them that their expensive education in Early Celtic Transgender Basketweaving is worthless and they will immediately scream back "you don't want me to be a heart surgeon!"
A degree in basket weaving, sadly, is the equivalent of being a coal miner or a machinist or many other manual jobs that are declining or have gone away.
If the critics of worthless degrees must look at those with worthless skills as the same.
The key is to have a skill or a degree that will get you a job
Umm no it's not. You can't live without machinists and coal miners. Just because a job isn't happening in front of you doesn't mean you can get by without it being done.
Yes we need Coal Miners and factory workers but less than in the past and the demand is declining and will continue to decline. That is why there are so many unemployed coal miners and factory workers. There are still professional basket weavers but the demand is declining. There are still jobs making buggy whips. The key is to have a skill where there are as many jobs as there are people with the skill.


Democrats killed factory worker and coal miner jobs by increased business taxes driving factories off-shore and tyrannical EPA regs on fossil fuels, coal in particular.
 
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Liberals are such children. Tell them that their expensive education in Early Celtic Transgender Basketweaving is worthless and they will immediately scream back "you don't want me to be a heart surgeon!"
A degree in basket weaving, sadly, is the equivalent of being a coal miner or a machinist or many other manual jobs that are declining or have gone away.
If the critics of worthless degrees must look at those with worthless skills as the same.
The key is to have a skill or a degree that will get you a job
Umm no it's not. You can't live without machinists and coal miners. Just because a job isn't happening in front of you doesn't mean you can get by without it being done.
Yes we need Coal Miners and factory workers but less than in the past and the demand is declining and will continue to decline. That is why there are so many unemployed coal miners and factory workers. There are still professional basket weavers but the demand is declining. There are still jobs making buggy whips. The key is to have a skill where there are as many jobs as there are people with the skill.


Democrats killed factory worker and coal miner jobs by increased business taxes driving factories off-shore and tyrannical EPA regs on fossil fuels, coal in particular.

Any one of those workers you mentioned could have formulated a plan to attend university and made a future outside of their familial legacies.
Plenty certainly have.
 
According to Pew research, By a steep 22-point margin, Republicans now believe American colleges and universities have a net negative effect on the country. In 2010, Republicans still said college was a good thing by a 26-point margin. So that’s a complete collapse in GOP support for higher education (self-identified Democrats and independents have always thought college is good by overwhelming, 40-point plus margins, and still do).
Trump represents the dumbing down of the USA


Your liberal professors are the reason. They are uselessness and only have jobs because they got tenure.

LOL

Q. Do you take pills to create your ignorance

A professor has earned an advanced degree in the subject matter in which they instruct Unless you are one of those who believe all research is funded by the special interests, and therefore all science is fake, your post is nothing more than an echo of a meme only believed by biddable fools.


Maybe in the old days, but really only being black is required. Anyone who wants a teaching job at a university needs to Kss the ring of the keepers of all the social issues. As far as your professors go, they suck. Their records show they suck. And it's glaringly evident in the qualifying of student they turn out which is typically unemployed and unable to comprehend from reading. Deny it all you want, but that's a fact.


In short, your professors don't have to do a good job. A mass stroke in government and our education system would be an awesome beautiful thing.


"In the old days"? When was that?

Your statement about anyone who wants to teach at a U. only needs to kiss ass and is a minority is absurd. Writing so provides a strong piece of evidence, you have never matriculated at a U.


Remember, "Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach."

Except teaching is doing, fool.
 
Let me clue you in on something professor.
People don't spend $100K or more to get an MBA to make $100K/yr.

It's obvious that you are clueless.

Uh, yes they do! If you make $100K a year for ten years, you have made a million bucks and your college loans are only 10% of that!

Why can't liberals read or do math? Are they all middle school dropouts?

Except MBAs will be making much more than that after a decade. Far surpassing their peers in the trades. That was the point, dumbass.

Then that is what you should have said.

Or simply learn to read and think critically.

The inability to read and think critically would make liberals out of them, without a doubt.

The simple fact that I referenced an MBA should have informed you that they would inherently have a much higher earning potential over time. Instead, you projected a decade out and showed your ass.
 
Uh, yes they do! If you make $100K a year for ten years, you have made a million bucks and your college loans are only 10% of that!

Why can't liberals read or do math? Are they all middle school dropouts?

Except MBAs will be making much more than that after a decade. Far surpassing their peers in the trades. That was the point, dumbass.

Then that is what you should have said.

Or simply learn to read and think critically.

The inability to read and think critically would make liberals out of them, without a doubt.

The simple fact that I referenced an MBA should have informed you that they would inherently have a much higher earning potential over time. Instead, you projected a decade out and showed your ass.

I did not post your picture!
 

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