Margaret thatcher died

[OriginalShroom]

The wingnuts' favorite game: shooting the messenger.

It would seem that you not only have a problem with the truth being presented, but you also have a problem with reading and comprehension.

I did acknowledge, if you care to read my post a bit more carefully, that it is possible that those who are spreading the lie were doing so unknowingly.

However, at least on this thread, anyone continuing to spread the false information is doing so despite that story being debunked.

Have a nice day now.

It hasn't been debunked, fifth result notwithstanding.

As you will. Most of the posters know about you anyway, so I have nothing to prove by getting into an exchange of digital pixels with you.

 

[Meathead]

You call it spam. I call it repeated attempts to get anyone from the Right to defend Thatcher's record.

Why would anyone bother defending Thatcher's record. Her record is history and is available to anyone interested. There is precious little to argue about. It speaks for itself.

Are you referring to the 10% unemployment that she earned while trying to get inflation down to 5%?

Funny how Maggie's 10% is just fine and dandy, but Obama's 7.2 is simply atrocious.

And Maggie didn't come in during a total financial collapse.

You need to read history and educate yourself. You might then understand things like Thatcher, her era and that Texas is not landlocked. You don't need to be a dingbat all your life. Read my sig, which for the like of you is not in jest.

 

[Synthaholic]

Why would anyone bother defending Thatcher's record. Her record is history and is available to anyone interested. There is precious little to argue about. It speaks for itself.

Are you referring to the 10% unemployment that she earned while trying to get inflation down to 5%?

Funny how Maggie's 10% is just fine and dandy, but Obama's 7.2 is simply atrocious.

And Maggie didn't come in during a total financial collapse.

You need to read history and educate yourself. You might then understand things like Thatcher, her era and that Texas is not landlocked. You don't need to be a dingbat all your life. Read my sig, which for the like of you is not in jest.

Are you claiming that unemployment didn't rise to 10% under Thatcher?

Step up to the plate, big boy. Show me how "knowledge is good".

 

[Foxfyre]

Instead of listening to the insipid Left who can't stand that somebody like Margaret Thatcher could have had any kind of positive effect on anything--she is the antithesis of all that is good in their eyes--let's look at some of the testimonials from some of the U.K.'s greatest statesmen.

(And then wait for the insipid leftists to cherry pick anything they can interpet as negative out of this and ignore the profound truths of her contributions expressed):

What did Margaret Thatcher do for Britain? Panel verdict | The panel | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Good on ya'll who see it as honorable to honor such a great lady. And shame on you who would literally trample in glee on her grave.

 

[Meathead]

Are you referring to the 10% unemployment that she earned while trying to get inflation down to 5%?

Funny how Maggie's 10% is just fine and dandy, but Obama's 7.2 is simply atrocious.

And Maggie didn't come in during a total financial collapse.

You need to read history and educate yourself. You might then understand things like Thatcher, her era and that Texas is not landlocked. You don't need to be a dingbat all your life. Read my sig, which for the like of you is not in jest.

Are you claiming that unemployment didn't rise to 10% under Thatcher?

Step up to the plate, big boy. Show me how "knowledge is good".

Knowledge is good because you would know about Thatcher's achievements and legacy and that Texas is not landlocked. Seriously, do I have to explain to you that knowledge is good? I imagine it's a bit of a tautology to most. However, I do realize there are a lot of intellectual runts and dingbats about.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

This thread reminds me of that other thread asking why rightwingers hate so much......oh, wait....

 

[Mr. Peepers]

She was a right wing fascist war mongerer who palled around with the butcher Pinochet. She and Reagan, that other war criminal, supported this "shock therapy" in cahoots with the CIA resulting in the disappearance and "vanishing" of thousands of innocent Chileans.

Sorry, no mercy for the wicked. As Elvis Costello said, "Tramp the Dirt Down". She was vile, and one of the reasons we are in the exact predicament we are right now. All due to Reaganomics (Trickle down voodoo / funnel up economics). And her policies. They turned the banksters loose, and we all took it up the ass.

 

[foxyladi]

I'm not going to let them ruin honoring Margaret for me. They are irrelevant.

She was a great lady.

AMEN AMEN!!!

 

[Trajan]

Nope.
She outed unions, privatized everything, etc.

What does that mean? Your pay goes down, your benefits go bye bye, you work harder and longer while the fatcats above are getting bigger paydays than lottery winners.

Privatization is good... to an extent. If you don't regulate it, it will become harmful to the economy.

typical liberal!

Yep. I think people who work their ass off should make a living.
I believe in consumer rights.
I believe in a strong, plentiful economy.

how old are you?

do you even remember or know a thing about Britain in the 70's?


there was no strong and there was no plentiful.....unless you are talking about the uncollected garbage on the streets and the strong smell...ever hear of the Winter of Discontent? Not the play either.......

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trajan exaggerates but the time for reform had come, and reform was necessary, and it was Maggie.

Was she necessary: yes.

Was she as good as folks think: no but better than what her detractors had to say.

Was she better than Ronnie: Crusader Frank would have been better than Ronnie.

The socialist longtime PM, Tony Blair, had this to say about her:

8 April 2013 Last updated at 14:16 ET Help

Former Prime Minister Tony Blair has described Baroness Thatcher as "a towering political figure" whose legacy will be felt worldwide.

Mr Blair said Lady Thatcher had always been "immensely kind" to him.

He added: "I always thought my job was to build on some of the things she had done rather than reverse them.

"Many of the things she said, even though they pained people like me on the left... had a certain creditability."

BBC News - Tony Blair: 'My job was to build on some Thatcher policies' Listen to the video. He was very kind in his assessment of her.

 

[Trajan]

Trajan exaggerates but the time for reform had come, and reform was necessary, and it was Maggie.

Was she necessary: yes.

Was she as good as folks think: no but better than what her detractors had to say.

Was she better than Ronnie: Crusader Frank would have been better than Ronnie.

The socialist longtime PM, Tony Blair, had this to say about her:

8 April 2013 Last updated at 14:16 ET Help

Former Prime Minister Tony Blair has described Baroness Thatcher as "a towering political figure" whose legacy will be felt worldwide.

Mr Blair said Lady Thatcher had always been "immensely kind" to him.

He added: "I always thought my job was to build on some of the things she had done rather than reverse them.

"Many of the things she said, even though they pained people like me on the left... had a certain creditability."

BBC News - Tony Blair: 'My job was to build on some Thatcher policies' Listen to the video. He was very kind in his assessment of her.

are you speaking from experience?





here-

let me help you.....

this is PART Part of the mile long backlog of rotting garage IN Finsbury Park London....circa 1979....

Soho, the historic Westminster borough of London....

how about the miners strikes? Familiar with the "3 day week" enacted in the early 70's to conserve electricity?

do I need to school you some more?

 

[foxyladi]

 

[foxyladi]

 

[Trajan]

repeated for truth.....

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trajan exaggerates but the time for reform had come, and reform was necessary, and it was Maggie.

Was she necessary: yes.

Was she as good as folks think: no but better than what her detractors had to say.

Was she better than Ronnie: Crusader Frank would have been better than Ronnie.

The socialist longtime PM, Tony Blair, had this to say about her:

8 April 2013 Last updated at 14:16 ET Help

Former Prime Minister Tony Blair has described Baroness Thatcher as "a towering political figure" whose legacy will be felt worldwide.

Mr Blair said Lady Thatcher had always been "immensely kind" to him.

He added: "I always thought my job was to build on some of the things she had done rather than reverse them.

"Many of the things she said, even though they pained people like me on the left... had a certain creditability."

BBC News - Tony Blair: 'My job was to build on some Thatcher policies' Listen to the video. He was very kind in his assessment of her.

are you speaking from experience?





here-

let me help you.....

this is PART Part of the mile long backlog of rotting garage IN Finsbury Park London....circa 1979....

Soho, the historic Westminster borough of London....

how about the miners strike of 74? Familiar with the "3 day week" enacted to conserve electricity?

do I need to school you some more?

You have been paddled, Trajan, by me. I agreed with most of your stuff but pointed out that you exaggerated. You did. Now go listen to Tony Blair at the link.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

Probably one of the reasons they're working class.

Nope.
She outed unions, privatized everything, etc.

What does that mean? Your pay goes down, your benefits go bye bye, you work harder and longer while the fatcats above are getting bigger paydays than lottery winners.

Privatization is good... to an extent. If you don't regulate it, it will become harmful to the economy.

typical liberal! my husband works for a non union and has great benefits. SO , what is that telling you. Many in the south do it without UNIONS. all they are is a bunch of THUGS and babies

Hmmm.

What would the average rebel have against a UNION?

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

Thatcher has died. - news of the day

Did she suffer?

 

[JakeStarkey]

She was known as Milk Snatcher Thatcher when she died subsidized milk to the poor children as Education Minister.

 

[Swagger]

She was known as Milk Snatcher Thatcher when she died subsidized milk to the poor children as Education Minister.

She didn't snatch anything. She removed an unjustifiable expense, and reminded Britain's parents that it was their responsibility to provide their children with a pint of milk in the morning, not the state's. I remember all the left-wing Labour hypocritse protesting over it. After which the smokers among them would go and buy a packet of cigarettes. The value of which would easily cover the expense of providing their children the five pints of semi-skimmed milk they'd been 'deprived' of.

 

[tinydancer]

I always remember the three of them. The three amigos. My Prime Minister was a baby compared to them.

But they ran together. I wish President Reagan could speak at her funeral. But those days are gone.

I hope they let Prime Minister Mulroney speak.

I really do. His eulogy for President Regan was so to the heart. For those that might be too young to remember... This is just part of it. Rest at link. What a trio they made. Bless you Maggie. I'm glad Ronnie was there to open the gates for you.

Brian Mulroney on Ronald Reagan

In the spring of 1987 President Reagan and I were driven into a large hangar at the Ottawa Airport, to await the arrival of Mrs. Reagan and my wife, Mila, prior to departure ceremonies for their return to Washington. We were alone except for the security details.

President Reagan's visit had been important, demanding and successful. Our discussions reflected the international agenda of the times: The nuclear threat posed by the Soviet Union and the missile deployment by NATO; pressures in the Warsaw pact, challenges resulting from the Berlin Wall and the ongoing separation of Germany; and bilateral and hemispheric free trade.

President Reagan had spoken to Parliament, handled complex files with skill and good humor -- strongly impressing his Canadian hosts -- and here we were, waiting for our wives.

When their car drove in a moment later, out stepped Nancy and Mila -- looking like a million bucks. As they headed towards us, President Reagan beamed, threw his arm around my shoulder and said with a grin: "You know, Brian, for two Irishmen we sure married up."

In that visit -- in that moment -- one saw the quintessential Ronald Reagan -- the leader we respected, the neighbor we admired and the friend we loved -- a president of the United States of America whose truly remarkable life we celebrate in this magnificent cathedral today.

Presidents and prime ministers everywhere sometimes wonder how history will deal with them.

Some can even evince a touch of the insecurity of Thomas d'Arcy McGee, an Irish immigrant to Canada, who became a Father of our Confederation. In one of his poems, McGee, thinking of his birthplace, wrote poignantly:

"Am I remembered in Erin

I charge you, speak me true

Has my name a sound, a meaning

In the scenes my boyhood knew."

Ronald Reagan will not have to worry about Erin because they remember him well and affectionately there. Indeed they do: from Erin to Estonia, from Maryland to Madagascar from Montreal to Monterey. Ronald Reagan does not enter history tentatively -- he does so with certainty and panache. At home and on the world stage, his were not the pallid etchings of a timorous politician. They were the bold strokes of a confident and accomplished leader.

Some in the West during the early 1980s believed communism and democracy were equally valid and viable. This was the school of "moral equivalence." In contrast Ronald Reagan saw Soviet communism as a menace to be confronted in the genuine belief that its squalid underpinning would fall swiftly to the gathering winds of freedom. Provided, as he said, that NATO and the industrialized democracies stood firm and united. They did. And we know now who was right.

Ronald Reagan was a president who inspired his nation and transformed the world. He possessed a rare and prized gift called leadership -- that ineffable and sometimes magical quality that sets some men and women apart so that millions will follow them as they conjure up grand visions and invite their countrymen to dream big and exciting dreams.

I always thought that President Reagan's understanding of the nobility of the presidency coincided with the American dream.

One day President Mitterrand in referring to President Reagan said: "Il a vraiment la notion de l'Etat." Rough translation: "He really has a sense of the State about him." The translation does not fully capture the profundity of the observation: what President Mitterrand meant was that there is a vast difference between the job of president and the role of president.

It's worth the read.. my Prime Minister loved and adored both these towers of freedom so.

Reagan 2020 - Reagan Eulogy - Brian Mulroney