Maybe I was right about Trump and the Democrats

[Mac1958]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

 

[Pete7469]

How modest of you...

Can you lick your own balls too?


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[Mac1958]

How modest of you...

Can you lick your own balls too?


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A good, thoughtful and reasoned Trumpian-level response, thanks.
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[Billy_Kinetta]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

Umm ... the Progressives began actively sucking up what was left of the Democratic Party following Al Gore's defeat in 2000. The masks came off at the Paul Wellstone Memorial two years later, and the parasite has since fully engulfed the host.

Your predictions were 16 years after the fact.

 

[iceberg]

How modest of you...

Can you lick your own balls too?


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A good, thoughtful and reasoned Trumpian-level response, thanks.
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most "look at me" posts deserve the return-snark. sorry.

 

[Mac1958]

How modest of you...

Can you lick your own balls too?


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A good, thoughtful and reasoned Trumpian-level response, thanks.
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most "look at me" posts deserve the return-snark. sorry.

Okay. I'll be more careful in the future to not match the narcissism that most others here display so regularly.
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[Mac1958]

If no one wants to address the actual point of the thread, the mods can shut 'er down.

 

[iceberg]

If no one wants to address the actual point of the thread, the mods can shut 'er down.

so what was the point? whether or not you were right or what you may have been right about?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

I said something similar after he was elected. Except, I didn't expect that this massive backlash from the alt-left, global socialist funded radicals would occur if and when he succeeded. I assumed, if he failed, socialism would take the WH after him. He is succeeding though, in spite of their efforts.

Instead of saying "hey, this works for America and let's move closer to this America First ideology, they decided that "to hell with what works. We just want power". That should concern the world. The U.S can fight the bad guys, nobody else can (or will).

This means any described benefit for the average citizens decreases significantly as the real objective is power, not prescription or policies. Leaders must lead, for their constituents. We are watching a global world that lacks leadership and it demanded an outsider of the highest order to expose it. Listen to all they talk about in the debates "I will give this group, free shyte! Vote for me!". Neither practical nor responsible.

Really, what more perfect situation would it be than Donald Trump winning presidency in America. An already well known businessman, patriot and showman who is about as defiant as there is, and, running the most influential nation. It was perfect. Especially is defiance. He's as stubborn as a mule and it's helped him greatly in his vast support.

He understands this so well that he is making damned sure it stays this way. Thus, crushing China and putting back in line any nation, friend or foe, that exploits America, has to be done.

 

[Mac1958]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

I said something similar after he was elected. Except, I didn't expect that this massive backlash from the alt-left, global socialist funded radicals would occur if and when he succeeded. I assumed, if he failed, socialism would take the WH after him. He is succeeding though, in spite of their efforts.

Instead of saying "hey, this works for America and let's move closer to this America First ideology, they decided that "to hell with what works. We just want power". That should concern the world. The U.S can fight the bad guys, nobody else can (or will).

This means any described benefit for the average citizens decreases significantly as the real objective is power, not prescription or policies. Leaders must lead, for their constituents. We are watching a global world that lacks leadership and it demanded an outsider of the highest order to expose it. Listen to all they talk about in the debates "I will give this group, free shyte! Vote for me!". Neither practical nor responsible.

Really, what more perfect situation would it be than Donald Trump winning presidency in America. An already well known businessman, patriot and showman who is about as defiant as there is, and, running the most influential nation. It was perfect. Especially is defiance. He's as stubborn as a mule and it's helped him greatly in his vast support.

He understands this so well that he is making damned sure it stays this way. Thus, crushing China and putting back in line any nation, friend or foe, that exploits America, has to be done.

Whether or not he will have succeeded is up for debate, but he's certainly become the lightning rod that has made it much easier for the hardcore Left to mobilize.

This is one high-wire act. The risk he represents to the GOP and what has happened to the Democratic Party appears to be playing out, though.
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[Natural Citizen]

Call the economic end game and you have something, Mac.

 

[Mac1958]

Call the economic end game and you have something, Mac.

Explain?

 

[Rustic]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

You do realize that getting along is way overrated?

 

[Mac1958]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

You do realize that getting along is way overrated?

No.
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[Rustic]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

You do realize that getting along is way overrated?

No.
.

Chaos is good for the country… Not so much for the federal government. And that is a good thing

 

[shockedcanadian]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

I said something similar after he was elected. Except, I didn't expect that this massive backlash from the alt-left, global socialist funded radicals would occur if and when he succeeded. I assumed, if he failed, socialism would take the WH after him. He is succeeding though, in spite of their efforts.

Instead of saying "hey, this works for America and let's move closer to this America First ideology, they decided that "to hell with what works. We just want power". That should concern the world. The U.S can fight the bad guys, nobody else can (or will).

This means any described benefit for the average citizens decreases significantly as the real objective is power, not prescription or policies. Leaders must lead, for their constituents. We are watching a global world that lacks leadership and it demanded an outsider of the highest order to expose it. Listen to all they talk about in the debates "I will give this group, free shyte! Vote for me!". Neither practical nor responsible.

Really, what more perfect situation would it be than Donald Trump winning presidency in America. An already well known businessman, patriot and showman who is about as defiant as there is, and, running the most influential nation. It was perfect. Especially is defiance. He's as stubborn as a mule and it's helped him greatly in his vast support.

He understands this so well that he is making damned sure it stays this way. Thus, crushing China and putting back in line any nation, friend or foe, that exploits America, has to be done.

Whether or not he will have succeeded is up for debate, but he's certainly become the lightning rod that has made it much easier for the hardcore Left to mobilize.

This is one high-wire act. The risk he represents to the GOP and what has happened to the Democratic Party appears to be playing out, though.
.

Yes, you can argue the contrary as well. The left, with attacks on free speech, Supreme Court choices, the pile on from the MSM has mobilized Trumps team even more. His stance on China and the border, once viewed "radical" and "extreme" has now become more and more mainstream in the eyes of Americans.

That is VERY good for his prospects. The single black mother in government housing who voted for Democrats her entire life now sees school choice for her child, HUD coming there and creating Opportunity Zones. She sees someone finally standing up to illegals stealing jobs and other companies exporting theirs to CHina. She and her child have hope.

If you don't believe me. Remember that meat company business that was raided and hundreds of illegal immigrants arrested? Well, guess what? Appears Americans are willing to do those jobs, they have all been replaced by U.S citizens. Hundreds of people now working, and not dependent.

There are 100's of stories Trump can use to paint his successes and to defy the narrative. To be honest, I would love to be on his team and advising on some of them, that's how easy I think it would be.

He can succeed in not only strengthening his base, but expanding dramatically. On twitter alone you see the activity, the coming together of Trumps base with former Dems (#walkaway) and Never Trumpers who say, "you were right, I now support Trump".

 

[Cellblock2429]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

/——/ If Trump loses its goodbye America and hello Venezuela.

 

[dannyboys]

If no one wants to address the actual point of the thread, the mods can shut 'er down.

This folks is what happens when someone is 'riding the cotton pony' and has just finished drinking a bottle of cooking sherry.

 

[Mac1958]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

I said something similar after he was elected. Except, I didn't expect that this massive backlash from the alt-left, global socialist funded radicals would occur if and when he succeeded. I assumed, if he failed, socialism would take the WH after him. He is succeeding though, in spite of their efforts.

Instead of saying "hey, this works for America and let's move closer to this America First ideology, they decided that "to hell with what works. We just want power". That should concern the world. The U.S can fight the bad guys, nobody else can (or will).

This means any described benefit for the average citizens decreases significantly as the real objective is power, not prescription or policies. Leaders must lead, for their constituents. We are watching a global world that lacks leadership and it demanded an outsider of the highest order to expose it. Listen to all they talk about in the debates "I will give this group, free shyte! Vote for me!". Neither practical nor responsible.

Really, what more perfect situation would it be than Donald Trump winning presidency in America. An already well known businessman, patriot and showman who is about as defiant as there is, and, running the most influential nation. It was perfect. Especially is defiance. He's as stubborn as a mule and it's helped him greatly in his vast support.

He understands this so well that he is making damned sure it stays this way. Thus, crushing China and putting back in line any nation, friend or foe, that exploits America, has to be done.

Whether or not he will have succeeded is up for debate, but he's certainly become the lightning rod that has made it much easier for the hardcore Left to mobilize.

This is one high-wire act. The risk he represents to the GOP and what has happened to the Democratic Party appears to be playing out, though.
.

Yes, you can argue the contrary as well. The left, with attacks on free speech, Supreme Court choices, the pile on from the MSM has mobilized Trumps team even more. His stance on China and the border, once viewed "radical" and "extreme" has now become more and more mainstream in the eyes of Americans.

That is VERY good for his prospects. The single black mother in government housing who voted for Democrats her entire like now sees school choice for her child, HUD coming there and creating Opportunity Zones. She sees someone finally standing up to illegals stealing jobs and other companies exporting theirs to CHina. She and her child have hope.

If you don't believe me. Remember that meat company business that was raided and hundreds of illegal immigrants arrested? Well, guess what? Appears Americans are willing to do those jobs, they have all been replaced by citizens.

There are 100's of stories Trump can use to paint his successes and to defy the narrative. To be honest, I would love to be on his team and advising on some of them, that's how easy I think it would be.

He can succeed in not only strengthening his base, but expanding dramatically. On twitter alone you see the activity, the coming together of Trumps base with former Dems (#walkaway) and Never Trumpers who say, "you were right, I now support Trump".

The point is that he has indeed mobilized his base, AND the base of the Democrats.

So what we may have in 2020 may well be an election between the two bases, leaving the rest of the country to deal with whichever whacked-out base wins.

Neither base represents anything near the majority of the country, yet the rest of us will have to deal with the results.
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[TNHarley]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

You do realize that getting along is way overrated?

No.
.

Less laws. Less abuse of power.