Mineapolis Cops Quit in Droves, lol

[Beef_Supreme]

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

So zero personal responsibility?
There are plenty of poor white neighborhoods, towns, blocks, etc.
Why is the crime always less there?

 

[Blues Man]

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

.....also--they blame the POLICE and whitey!!! = they never solve the REAL problems

The government has failed them.

A cop is far more likely to arrest a Black man than a White man even though they committed the same offense. And Blacks receive more jail time for the same offense than whites

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/16/black-men-sentenced-to-more-time-for-committing-the-exact-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

So zero personal responsibility?
There are plenty of poor white neighborhoods, towns, blocks, etc.
Why is the crime always less there?

it isn't

It's just accepted and not thought of as a skin color issue.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Wow, you mean treating cops like they were the enemy causes them to leave?

And the idiot dolts there VOTED FOR BIDEN. Let the place turn into a Chicago slum. I love it. Democrats shooting other democrats.

Democrats dont need living constituents any more since they can poll cemeteries and print votes on mail-in ballots.

 

[miketx]

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

.....also--they blame the POLICE and whitey!!! = they never solve the REAL problems

The government has failed them.

A cop is far more likely to arrest a Black man than a White man even though they committed the same offense. And Blacks receive more jail time for the same offense than whites

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/16/black-men-sentenced-to-more-time-for-committing-the-exact-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

So zero personal responsibility?
There are plenty of poor white neighborhoods, towns, blocks, etc.
Why is the crime always less there?

it isn't

It's just accepted and not thought of as a skin color issue.

This is pure BS. In many cases people receiving longer sentences for the same crimes have a more violent/criminal history than others. First time offenders vs repeat offenders. What they should do is stop releasing violent scum.

 

[Beef_Supreme]

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

.....also--they blame the POLICE and whitey!!! = they never solve the REAL problems

The government has failed them.

A cop is far more likely to arrest a Black man than a White man even though they committed the same offense. And Blacks receive more jail time for the same offense than whites

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/16/black-men-sentenced-to-more-time-for-committing-the-exact-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

So zero personal responsibility?
There are plenty of poor white neighborhoods, towns, blocks, etc.
Why is the crime always less there?

it isn't

It's just accepted and not thought of as a skin color issue.

black folks get sentenced more for the same crime because they usually have an extensive history.

 

[Beef_Supreme]

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

.....also--they blame the POLICE and whitey!!! = they never solve the REAL problems

The government has failed them.

A cop is far more likely to arrest a Black man than a White man even though they committed the same offense. And Blacks receive more jail time for the same offense than whites

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/16/black-men-sentenced-to-more-time-for-committing-the-exact-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

So zero personal responsibility?
There are plenty of poor white neighborhoods, towns, blocks, etc.
Why is the crime always less there?

it isn't

It's just accepted and not thought of as a skin color issue.

This is pure BS. In many cases people receiving longer sentences for the same crimes have a more violent/criminal history than others. First time offenders vs repeat offenders. What they should do is stop releasing violent scum.

You beat me to it.

 

[Polishprince]

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

.....also--they blame the POLICE and whitey!!! = they never solve the REAL problems

The government has failed them.

A cop is far more likely to arrest a Black man than a White man even though they committed the same offense. And Blacks receive more jail time for the same offense than whites

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/16/black-men-sentenced-to-more-time-for-committing-the-exact-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

So zero personal responsibility?
There are plenty of poor white neighborhoods, towns, blocks, etc.
Why is the crime always less there?

it isn't

It's just accepted and not thought of as a skin color issue.

black folks get sentenced more for the same crime because they usually have an extensive history.

That's not the only reason.

Traditionally, black voters have been in favor of orderly communities and have put pressure on the prosecutors and judges to throw the book at serious offenders in the hood. That is changing, but it used to be that people didn't want to live in an area where they risk getting shot just walking to the store for a quart of milk or a pack of pell mells.

 

[toobfreak]

Wow, you mean treating cops like they were the enemy causes them to leave?

And the idiot dolts there VOTED FOR BIDEN. Let the place turn into a Chicago slum. I love it. Democrats shooting other democrats.

Democrats dont need living constituents any more since they can poll cemeteries and print votes on mail-in ballots.

Thanks, Jim, that is great data I had not seen elsewhere.

You can't prove anything with it, but these irregularities taken together are like a smoking gun-- -- impossible to ignore.

 

[harmonica]

blacks commit crime at higher rates--plain and simple ..especially black youth

 

[Orangecat]

So the choice I have been derided for is confirmed. Corrupt police or anarchy. Got it.

Your childishly binary choice is incorrect. Less police protection does not equal anarchy and more does not equal corruption.

 

[Orangecat]

The cops created their own problems and now they want us to ignore their incompetence and brutish nature and we are supposedly supposed to have empathy for the hired goons.

The cops are retiring. They aren't asking you to ignore anything. People often retire or change jobs when they no longer like the work environment. Cops are people, just like you and I.

 

[harmonica]

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

.....also--they blame the POLICE and whitey!!! = they never solve the REAL problems

The government has failed them.

A cop is far more likely to arrest a Black man than a White man even though they committed the same offense. And Blacks receive more jail time for the same offense than whites

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/16/black-men-sentenced-to-more-time-for-committing-the-exact-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

So zero personal responsibility?
There are plenty of poor white neighborhoods, towns, blocks, etc.
Why is the crime always less there?

it isn't

It's just accepted and not thought of as a skin color issue.

what? links/proof please
....blacks commit crime at MUCH higher rates--that's why they get arrested at higher rates
murder
FOUR TIMES the rate!!!!!

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

rape--twice the rate:

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

!! here-I know this goes only to 2008--but do you know why they don't put out racial stats [ FACTS ] like this anymore????!!! political correctness!!!
crime/homicide/racial stats/etc

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf\

hate crimes at TWICE the rate!!

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

etc etc

 

[harmonica]

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

.....also--they blame the POLICE and whitey!!! = they never solve the REAL problems

The government has failed them.

A cop is far more likely to arrest a Black man than a White man even though they committed the same offense. And Blacks receive more jail time for the same offense than whites

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/16/black-men-sentenced-to-more-time-for-committing-the-exact-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/

How come it's always black hoods that are so violent?

Generational poverty, poor schools, defacto segregation, etc etc

So zero personal responsibility?
There are plenty of poor white neighborhoods, towns, blocks, etc.
Why is the crime always less there?

it isn't

It's just accepted and not thought of as a skin color issue.

......the government has failed them??????godamn the government bends over backwards PLUS for them

 

[Agit8r]

They are such petulent brats

 

[LeftofLeft]

Wow, you mean treating cops like they were the enemy causes them to leave?

Who'd a thunk it?

Minneapolis violence surges as police officers leave department in droves

MINNEAPOLIS - The sound of gunfire has become so familiar across North Minneapolis that...

www.greenwichtime.com

​

MINNEAPOLIS - The sound of gunfire has become so familiar across North Minneapolis that Cathy Spann worries she has grown numb to it.​

​

Day and night the bullets zip through this predominantly Black neighborhood, hitting cars and homes and people. The scores of victims have included a 7-year-old boy, wounded in a drive-by shooting; a woman who took a bullet that came through her living room wall while she was watching television with her family; and a 17-year-old girl shot in the head and killed.​

​

Spann, a longtime community activist who works for the Jordan Area Community Council, cannot recall another time when things were this bad - not even when the city was branded "Murderapolis," during a spike in violence in the mid-1990s.​

​

The police are not as much a presence as they used to be, Spann said, noting that sometimes when neighbors call 911, officers are delayed in responding or don't come at all.​

​

"If you want to talk about pandemics, we're dealing with a pandemic of violence," Spann said on a recent afternoon, just as word came of two more nearby shootings. "We're under siege. You wake up and go to bed in fear, because you don't know what's going to happen next. . . . And our city has failed to protect us."​

​

Nearly six months after George Floyd's death here sparked massive protests and left a wide swath of the city burned and destroyed, Minneapolis is grappling with dueling crises: an unprecedented wave of violence and droves of officer departures that the Minneapolis Police Department warns could soon leave the force unable to respond to emergencies.​

​

Homicides in Minneapolis are up 50%, with nearly 75 people killed across the city so far this year. More than 500 people have been shot, the highest number in more than a decade and twice as many as in 2019. And there have been more than 4,600 violent crimes - including hundreds of carjackings and robberies - a five-year high.​

​

Most of the violence has happened since Floyd's death on Memorial Day, which some experts attribute in part to the lingering anger over the slaying and the effects of the coronavirus, including job losses and the closure of community centers and other public spaces.​

​

Minneapolis police say they have struggled to respond. They have faced a surge of officer departures in the wake of Floyd's death and the outcry against police. In June, a city council majority vowed to defund and dismantle the department and replace it with a new agency focused on a mix of public safety and violence prevention - a move that could go before voters in 2021.​

Burn to the ground, Mineapolis. You voted these Marxists into government so it is your won damned fault.

And go fuck yourselves while you are at it.

The people of Minneapolis have chosen to let their city burn to a shit hole like Detroit, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Baltimore. Let ‘me.

 

[Polishprince]

Wow, you mean treating cops like they were the enemy causes them to leave?

Who'd a thunk it?

Minneapolis violence surges as police officers leave department in droves

MINNEAPOLIS - The sound of gunfire has become so familiar across North Minneapolis that...

www.greenwichtime.com

​

MINNEAPOLIS - The sound of gunfire has become so familiar across North Minneapolis that Cathy Spann worries she has grown numb to it.​

​

Day and night the bullets zip through this predominantly Black neighborhood, hitting cars and homes and people. The scores of victims have included a 7-year-old boy, wounded in a drive-by shooting; a woman who took a bullet that came through her living room wall while she was watching television with her family; and a 17-year-old girl shot in the head and killed.​

​

Spann, a longtime community activist who works for the Jordan Area Community Council, cannot recall another time when things were this bad - not even when the city was branded "Murderapolis," during a spike in violence in the mid-1990s.​

​

The police are not as much a presence as they used to be, Spann said, noting that sometimes when neighbors call 911, officers are delayed in responding or don't come at all.​

​

"If you want to talk about pandemics, we're dealing with a pandemic of violence," Spann said on a recent afternoon, just as word came of two more nearby shootings. "We're under siege. You wake up and go to bed in fear, because you don't know what's going to happen next. . . . And our city has failed to protect us."​

​

Nearly six months after George Floyd's death here sparked massive protests and left a wide swath of the city burned and destroyed, Minneapolis is grappling with dueling crises: an unprecedented wave of violence and droves of officer departures that the Minneapolis Police Department warns could soon leave the force unable to respond to emergencies.​

​

Homicides in Minneapolis are up 50%, with nearly 75 people killed across the city so far this year. More than 500 people have been shot, the highest number in more than a decade and twice as many as in 2019. And there have been more than 4,600 violent crimes - including hundreds of carjackings and robberies - a five-year high.​

​

Most of the violence has happened since Floyd's death on Memorial Day, which some experts attribute in part to the lingering anger over the slaying and the effects of the coronavirus, including job losses and the closure of community centers and other public spaces.​

​

Minneapolis police say they have struggled to respond. They have faced a surge of officer departures in the wake of Floyd's death and the outcry against police. In June, a city council majority vowed to defund and dismantle the department and replace it with a new agency focused on a mix of public safety and violence prevention - a move that could go before voters in 2021.​

Burn to the ground, Mineapolis. You voted these Marxists into government so it is your won damned fault.

And go fuck yourselves while you are at it.

The people of Minneapolis have chosen to let their city burn to a shit hole like Detroit, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Baltimore. Let ‘me.

As is their right. Just as long as they don't move here once their own nests are inhabitable.

And that's the real problem. No one would care if they stayed where they were at, the idea of libs moving into civilized areas is what we doth protest.

 

[SavannahMann]

Indeed. Lawyers polled say they believe the police are lying in one case out of five. Twenty percent. That isn’t a problem according to you.

--you don't understand what you just posted!!!!!!!!!!
..I will highlight the idiocy/idiotic parts:
''''''Indeed. Lawyers polled say they believe the police are lying in one case out of five. Twenty percent. That isn’t a problem according to you.'''

lawyers polled believe = total bullshit

Why do they believe that? Sit in a courtroom. Listen to the testimony. You will believe it too if you have a modicum of honesty.

lawyers????!! lawyers???????????!!!
they lie all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS is your evidence??!!!!
every member can see that what I said about you is true

How about the cops?

OC sheriff’s deputies who lied on reports testify that they didn’t know it was illegal

The two deputies failed to book evidence, but falsified their reports to make it appear they had. A prosecutor gave them a lenient plea deal because they claimed they didn’t know such actions…

www.ocregister.com

Republican Orange County Deputies testified in court that they were never told it was illegal to lie on reports. How perfect do you have to be to know it is illegal to lie? Help me out Scooter.

Police perjury: It’s called ‘testilying’

Joseph Sperling was acting mighty casual for a guy with a pound of marijuana in his car. That’s how the arresting officer — and four other cops — described things to a Cook County…

www.chicagotribune.com

Five cops from two different departments were caught lying. I guess they didn’t know either.

Why cops lie

Why do police, whom we trust as role models of legal conduct, show contempt for the law by systematically perjuring themselves? Often in search hearings, it is embarrassingly clear to everyone - judge, prosecutor, defense attorney, even spectators - that the officer is lying under oath. There...

web.archive.org

The Chiefs of police of New York and San Francisco have admitted that Testilying is a real problem. But what would the cops know about it?

The problem is you sound insane. You are out there like the Flat Earth idiots demanding that the others either convince you to your satisfaction that the world is round, or admit it is flat.

Only with you the cause celeb is police corruption. So you have more links you will ignore. And instead will vanish until the next thread and then rush in with the same old thing. I must think I am perfect. You are a drive by debater. You throw a firebomb and when proven wrong again drive off declaring victory.

 

[Polishprince]

Indeed. Lawyers polled say they believe the police are lying in one case out of five. Twenty percent. That isn’t a problem according to you.

--you don't understand what you just posted!!!!!!!!!!
..I will highlight the idiocy/idiotic parts:
''''''Indeed. Lawyers polled say they believe the police are lying in one case out of five. Twenty percent. That isn’t a problem according to you.'''

lawyers polled believe = total bullshit

Why do they believe that? Sit in a courtroom. Listen to the testimony. You will believe it too if you have a modicum of honesty.

lawyers????!! lawyers???????????!!!
they lie all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS is your evidence??!!!!
every member can see that what I said about you is true

How about the cops?

OC sheriff’s deputies who lied on reports testify that they didn’t know it was illegal

The two deputies failed to book evidence, but falsified their reports to make it appear they had. A prosecutor gave them a lenient plea deal because they claimed they didn’t know such actions…

www.ocregister.com

Republican Orange County Deputies testified in court that they were never told it was illegal to lie on reports. How perfect do you have to be to know it is illegal to lie? Help me out Scooter.

Police perjury: It’s called ‘testilying’

Joseph Sperling was acting mighty casual for a guy with a pound of marijuana in his car. That’s how the arresting officer — and four other cops — described things to a Cook County…

www.chicagotribune.com

Five cops from two different departments were caught lying. I guess they didn’t know either.

Why cops lie

Why do police, whom we trust as role models of legal conduct, show contempt for the law by systematically perjuring themselves? Often in search hearings, it is embarrassingly clear to everyone - judge, prosecutor, defense attorney, even spectators - that the officer is lying under oath. There...

web.archive.org

The Chiefs of police of New York and San Francisco have admitted that Testilying is a real problem. But what would the cops know about it?

The problem is you sound insane. You are out there like the Flat Earth idiots demanding that the others either convince you to your satisfaction that the world is round, or admit it is flat.

Only with you the cause celeb is police corruption. So you have more links you will ignore. And instead will vanish until the next thread and then rush in with the same old thing. I must think I am perfect. You are a drive by debater. You throw a firebomb and when proven wrong again drive off declaring victory.

Police officers stretch the truth for various reasons- pleasing their politician bosses is the main one.

Politicians (traditionally) like order instead of chaos and an agreement was drawn where the politicians turn their head while the cops bust people's heads.

The situation is changing, most politicians like chaos.

 

[JoeB131]

The evidence of the cops being the hood guys is right in front of you, and you refuse to see it. The very people who live there are asking for their help, yet you know better.
Do some cops break the law? Yes.
Do some cops abuse authority? Yes.
Should those cops be punished? Yes.
But to act as if it’s some insane thing that happens is nuts. Find me a single profession where there are no bad actors. The priest hood? Laughable

Okay, you kind of hit on a point here. Most priests aren't pedophiles... But the entire Catholic Organization took steps to protect and hide pedophiles for years, going all the way up to Popes JP2 and Benedict XVI.

The police have the same problem. It's not just that they have guys like Darren Chauvin or Jason van Dyke, it's that they police departments, police unions and cities defend them for years. Until something tragic happens.

But what has happened is police being used to as another tool to cause division for political points. Rather than just punishing cases of misconduct, and looking at what kind of reforms can be put in place to try to cut down on such instances (you can’t ever eliminate it), you and fools like you are attacking the entire institution. Dumbasses like Joe above who says that cops want to abuse “people Of color”.
What a moronic statement. And he either believes it, because he is a moron. Or he has a vested interest in dividing people, because he is a scumbag.

Or I live in the REAL World. Hey want to see something fun. Let's look at how cops treated a white man walking down the street with an assault rifle, and a black man doing the same.

I don’t know you. Maybe you genuinely want things to improve and you’re merely misguided. Maybe you are one of those scum who wants division. Maybe you just hate cops for whatever reason. Whatever it is, you really need to look at exactly what is happening. The evidence doesn’t support your position. At all.

Actually, the evidence shows the police shoot 1000+ Americans every year, compared to other advanced countries that only shoot a handful. I don't blame the police for all of that. Our failure to treat mental illness and the proliferation of guns are also part of the problem.

 

[Beef_Supreme]

The evidence of the cops being the hood guys is right in front of you, and you refuse to see it. The very people who live there are asking for their help, yet you know better.
Do some cops break the law? Yes.
Do some cops abuse authority? Yes.
Should those cops be punished? Yes.
But to act as if it’s some insane thing that happens is nuts. Find me a single profession where there are no bad actors. The priest hood? Laughable

Okay, you kind of hit on a point here. Most priests aren't pedophiles... But the entire Catholic Organization took steps to protect and hide pedophiles for years, going all the way up to Popes JP2 and Benedict XVI.

The police have the same problem. It's not just that they have guys like Darren Chauvin or Jason van Dyke, it's that they police departments, police unions and cities defend them for years. Until something tragic happens.

But what has happened is police being used to as another tool to cause division for political points. Rather than just punishing cases of misconduct, and looking at what kind of reforms can be put in place to try to cut down on such instances (you can’t ever eliminate it), you and fools like you are attacking the entire institution. Dumbasses like Joe above who says that cops want to abuse “people Of color”.
What a moronic statement. And he either believes it, because he is a moron. Or he has a vested interest in dividing people, because he is a scumbag.

Or I live in the REAL World. Hey want to see something fun. Let's look at how cops treated a white man walking down the street with an assault rifle, and a black man doing the same.

I don’t know you. Maybe you genuinely want things to improve and you’re merely misguided. Maybe you are one of those scum who wants division. Maybe you just hate cops for whatever reason. Whatever it is, you really need to look at exactly what is happening. The evidence doesn’t support your position. At all.

Actually, the evidence shows the police shoot 1000+ Americans every year, compared to other advanced countries that only shoot a handful. I don't blame the police for all of that. Our failure to treat mental illness and the proliferation of guns are also part of the problem.

Agreed on the priests. It’s why I despise the Catholic Church and left.
I also agree that the police agencies cover shit up.
So does tye AMA. So does the bar. And on and on.
reforms are needed. Bad actors need to be nailed. Attacking all police and/or blaming them for problems is way out of line.