Minimum wage is already “livable”

[bripat9643]

Can you link to a few liberals claiming that working at Walmart or Popeyes or those types of jobs should provide a middle class lifestyle? I have heard them make a lot of claims, but never anything of that sort

What planet have been living on?

 

[rightwinger]

I didn't say they have no value. I said they are low value. If that wasn't true they would get paid more. The work they do is not complicated. It's easy to find replacements. Supply and demand. It's all economics.

They are high value, but easily replaceable

That is why they are easy to exploit

 

[bripat9643]

They can't even afford a 600 square foot apartment.

That's a typical apartment in Europe.

 

[bripat9643]

They are high value, but easily replaceable

That is why they are easy to exploit

How are they "high value?"

 

[rightwinger]

How are they "high value?"

 

[DudleySmith]

I think your economic policy would be a disaster for our economy, no offense.

I'm certain not following mine is the disaster, and it shows now. It's why the Gop can't beat out total left wing nutjobs in elections, and have parades when they do win by a couple of points as if it were a landslide.

 

[Anomalism]

They are high value, but easily replaceable

That's not how high value works my guy. That's clown logic.

The fact that they're easily replaced is exactly what makes them low value. Supply and demand. You seem to not understand basic economics.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What planet have been living on?

so that is a no.

Thanks.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Helping to facilitate the sale of valuable goods does not make somebody a valuable employee. True value speaks for itself. The value of your skill is determined by the free market.

Here's services included and up to date then.. Notice how recent the jump to people getting paid $15/hr has truly been.

 

[DudleySmith]

I didn't say they have no value. I said they are low value. If that wasn't true they would get paid more. The work they do is not complicated. It's easy to find replacements. Supply and demand. It's all economics.

Rubbish.

Silicon Valley Settles Tech Engineer Salary Fixing Class Action for $324M

San Francisco, CA: Apple Inc, Google Inc, Intel Inc and Adobe Systems Inc have reached a pre-trial settlement of $324 million, potentially ending an antitrust and unfair business practices class action lawsuit that brought by Silicon Valley tech engineers.

www.lawyersandsettlements.com

Silicon Valley wage fixing: Disney, Lucas, Dreamworks and Pixar implicated

It's not just tech companies that participated in the massive, illegal "no-poaching" cartel. Court documents from the trial, whose $324M settlement was just rejected by US District Judge Lucy Koh,…

boingboing.net

... and this is just the tip of the wage fixing iceberg; it goes on in trucking, meat packing, software programming, construction, etc. etc. Right wingers whine about unions, but obviously don't have a problem with rigged markets for labor. skilled or unskilled.

The$324 million is just a wrist slap for these tech companies, not even enough to make them stop.

There is no 'free market' for labor; that's a giant lie.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Here's services included and up to date then.. Notice how recent the jump to people getting paid $15/hr has truly been.

Who thinks minimum wage workers have increased their productivity at the average rate
of the US economy?

 

[bripat9643]

In other words, they aren't.

 

[DudleySmith]

Here's services included and up to date then.. Notice how recent the jump to people getting paid $15/hr has truly been.

The Govt's CPI numbers are rubbish; real inflation is far higher.

 

[DudleySmith]

Who thinks minimum wage workers have increased their productivity at the average rate
of the US economy?

Who thinks managers got smarter and worth more? Quit outsourcing high productivity jobs and quit complaining about low productivity service jobs not working cheap enough for idiots to make high profits on.

 

[rightwinger]

In other words, they aren't.

Given your avatar and demeanor, the only response you will appreciate is…

 

[bripat9643]

Who thinks managers got smarter and worth more?

Every employer.

 

[bripat9643]

Given your avatar and demeano, the only response you will appreciate is…

I certainly won't appreciate any of your responses. You're a fucking moron.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I guess it depends on where they live. Also, they could get a roommate or two. That is what aI did before landing my first "real" job.

Yup

I had 2 other roommates in my youth. Surviving is only hard for those who are lazy

 

[airplanemechanic]

Guys as much as I hate raising the minimum wage you seem to forget right now we have massive inflation. Gas up 50% under Biden, eggs up 29%. Dairy up 34%. So the cost to live has gone up to buy the essentials. And if a company is raising their prices due to inflation and not paying more to their workers then that means they are pocketing more cash on the backs of their lowest workers. If that worker could make 20 burgers an hour at 2 dollars a burger in 2019 that means they bring in 40 dollars an hour. If that same worker now makes 20 burgers an hour at 4 dollars a burger they are bringing in 80 dollars but still being paid 7.25 an hour. So their employer is making out like a bandit.

If inflation stays as it is I would recommend raising the MW.

 

[DudleySmith]

Every employer.

Yes, I agree they all got dumber and dumber just like the rest of the population in general has. They can move to Red China or Vietnam if they need Third World wages and labor conditions.