Miss USA suggest women defend themselves

Wow you guys missed out on Mertex's brilliant summary of the clinton impeachment...

It was about blow jobs, not sexual harassment, and Paula Jones was a "stepford wife" who was paid to lie about Clinton.

I guess the perjury and the obstruction of justice didn't mean anything either.

They de-criminalize sex crimes, then ridicule the women who bring charges.

And they think nobody notieces the anti-woman movement is happening in their court.
 
Uh -- the OP link is what your entire thread is based on. Now you want to change your whole basis? I gotta remember that one next time I start a thread declaring the sky is blue and you come in to argue for the sake of arguing.

What I saw is women protesting that as the target of rape the onus should not be on them to take the remedial action, but on the rapist who perpetrates it. Hence, the idea is to change hearts and minds.

--- Which is exactly the point YOU just made about Martin Luther King in that other thread. In this thread you had no idea what they were talking about; in that one you suddenly turn into an expert on the concept inside of fifteen minutes. :disbelief:

I need some Dramamine...

Actually, most of the thread is about you being an idiot.

:fu:

As for your ranting, let me explain why you, as usual, have your head up your ass. There is nothing in American culture that in any way, shape, or form, glorifies, or even excuses, rape. In other words, the battle for the hearts and minds is already won. Unless you can point to something that I am unaware, you are just wrong.

Look you worthless piece of toilet puke -- you put this thread up because you were (and are) too stupid to understand some fucking tweets. I explained it to your worthless hide, rationally. Your pathetic strawman about "rape culture" or whatever you're drooling about here is irrelevant. It's your strawman. I just explained to you what the message was, and it's got nothing to do with your strawman. So go fuck yourself with a glue gun.

Aww, did I hurt your feelings?

Tough fucking shit. Remember way back when you first joined the forum and started trying to annoy me, and I told you you weren't worth my time? My cognitive abilities are significantly impaired right now as a result of the medical treatment I am receiving, and you still don't challenge me enough that I even have to think to refute your pathetic attempts to claim victory.

The "message" is actually a straw man argument in itself. The premise is false, so anything built on it is, by definition false.

I do enjoy the massive display of stupidity and outrage though, I always enjoy starting the morning laughing at idiots.
 
Actually, most of the thread is about you being an idiot.

:fu:

As for your ranting, let me explain why you, as usual, have your head up your ass. There is nothing in American culture that in any way, shape, or form, glorifies, or even excuses, rape. In other words, the battle for the hearts and minds is already won. Unless you can point to something that I am unaware, you are just wrong.

Look you worthless piece of toilet puke -- you put this thread up because you were (and are) too stupid to understand some fucking tweets. I explained it to your worthless hide, rationally. Your pathetic strawman about "rape culture" or whatever you're drooling about here is irrelevant. It's your strawman. I just explained to you what the message was, and it's got nothing to do with your strawman. So go fuck yourself with a glue gun.

Aww, did I hurt your feelings?

Tough fucking shit. Remember way back when you first joined the forum and started trying to annoy me, and I told you you weren't worth my time?

Nnnnope. But I do remember you making all kinds of shit up that you can never document so stop the presses...
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My cognitive abilities are significantly impaired right now as a result of the medical treatment I am receiving

As if you had cognitive abilities to start with.

That's it coward, blame the drugs for being a dick. That way you're "not responsible". "It's the drugs talking". :eusa_hand:

Maybe the thing to do is stop trying to achieve 100,000 posts so you don't have to lash out when this lack of cognitive abilities is pointed out because you don't have the character to just man the fuck up.

Pissant.
 
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Twitter freaks out.

?Rape culture wins?: Feminist freakout after Miss Nevada dares suggest self defense training for women | Twitchy

I have to admit, this doesn't make sense even if I factor in Male Privilege.

I've read responses from feminist groups and the left wingers in main stream media.
What a bunch of crybaby little school girls.
The feminist position is that is should not be a woman's responsibility to defend herself from an attack. HUH?
This will blow over in a couple days when the next opportunity for a "cause" will appear.
By commenting, these left wing moon bat fem groups are just trying to become relevant.
Other than that, no one pays them any attention.
 
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Twitter freaks out.

?Rape culture wins?: Feminist freakout after Miss Nevada dares suggest self defense training for women | Twitchy

I have to admit, this doesn't make sense even if I factor in Male Privilege.

You didn't read the actual Twitter comments then didja? You would have read their common theme, which is - "why should women have to defend against an act that shouldn't be committed in the first place?"

Think of it this way: it's the difference between addressing gun violence with gun control, and addressing it by changing the culture of violence. In this analogy, you appear to be on the side of gun control.

This same story was posted by Templar_Kormac. I didn't have a clue what the fuck he was talking about. Youse guys should read your own links. That's what they're there for.
What is your point?
Please explain what the hell it is you just typed.
 
Definitely a good idea for women to work on learning how to defend themselves.

Definitely not the 'solution' to the problem at hand.

Troubling that some women might take a two-week seminar on 'Women's Self Defense' and then walk around with a false sense of security.

Irresponsible to point to one or two professional female fighters and give the other 99.9999999999999% of women the wrong idea.

Definitely a good idea for young boys to have a father in their lives to teach them that violence against women is unacceptable.

Not sure what it is you want.
Look, there are creeps everywhere.
It is best to be prepared rather than depend upon others.
And the Miss USA winner said nothing about a two week course.
She specifically stated "self defense"..
That means training. In one discipline of self defense or another.
 
One thing to note is that studies have shown when a woman is sexually assaulted and fights back, she is more likely to be injured or killed. Studies have shown if she is able to talk her way out of it or just let it happen, she is more likely to survive. When I was the 'victim' of an attempted rape, I talked my way out of it: that happened by instinct, not any kind of plan.

I think it is a good idea for women to have real self defense abilities: too often, however, a woman will take a few lessons, then forget half of what she learned and not practice it on an ongoing basis, so when the time to use it occurs, her self defense skills may help her, or they may be to her detriment.

The better option is to get at the problem of men being violent toward women. To solve that problem. Or are we just considering it as unsolvable?
"The better option is to get at the problem of men being violent toward women. To solve that problem. Or are we just considering it as unsolvable?"
Yes. The practice of sexually brutality has been going on since the beginning of time.
In fact most religions were invented to have a set of rules for right and wrong.
The first thing most religions address is this area.
Look, human beings are by nature predatory creatures. The only things that separate us from lower forms of life is our ability to reason, feel compassion, our intelligence and our strong urge to help one another.
Some people are simply born without one or ore of these qualities. In some parts of the world, sexual battery is cultural. It is permitted.
The hope that sexual assault is ever going to be eliminated is a fantasy.
In self defense, it is imperative that the student and the method become one. That it is second nature. No evening self defense course can provide that.
 
:fu:



Look you worthless piece of toilet puke -- you put this thread up because you were (and are) too stupid to understand some fucking tweets. I explained it to your worthless hide, rationally. Your pathetic strawman about "rape culture" or whatever you're drooling about here is irrelevant. It's your strawman. I just explained to you what the message was, and it's got nothing to do with your strawman. So go fuck yourself with a glue gun.

Aww, did I hurt your feelings?

Tough fucking shit. Remember way back when you first joined the forum and started trying to annoy me, and I told you you weren't worth my time?

Nnnnope. But I do remember you making all kinds of shit up that you can never document so stop the presses...
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My cognitive abilities are significantly impaired right now as a result of the medical treatment I am receiving

As if you had cognitive abilities to start with.

That's it coward, blame the drugs for being a dick. That way you're "not responsible". "It's the drugs talking". :eusa_hand:

Maybe the thing to do is stop trying to achieve 100,000 posts so you don't have to lash out when this lack of cognitive abilities is pointed out because you don't have the character to just man the fuck up.

Pissant.

I am not blaming the drugs for my attitude, fuckwad, that is completely natural. I am just pointing out that, even though the drugs are screwing with my ability to think, I can still argue circles around your pathetic ass.
 
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One thing to note is that studies have shown when a woman is sexually assaulted and fights back, she is more likely to be injured or killed. Studies have shown if she is able to talk her way out of it or just let it happen, she is more likely to survive. When I was the 'victim' of an attempted rape, I talked my way out of it: that happened by instinct, not any kind of plan.

I think it is a good idea for women to have real self defense abilities: too often, however, a woman will take a few lessons, then forget half of what she learned and not practice it on an ongoing basis, so when the time to use it occurs, her self defense skills may help her, or they may be to her detriment.

The better option is to get at the problem of men being violent toward women. To solve that problem. Or are we just considering it as unsolvable?

A very real problem is that so many on the right are saying most rapes don't really happen. As usual the R is leading us back to the Dark Ages and RW sheep are following right along.
Most "r's"......What's an "r"?
If anyone is in the fucking dark ages it is you.
You are unable to see beyond the narrow view of your ideology.
You see comments like those made by Miss USA, and your knee jerk o- meter sends you into give birth to a cow mode.
And this stupid notion you profess that people of a certain political party do not believe rape happens is absurd.
In our system of innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of one's peers applies to everyone.
From a strictly legal viewpoint, the prosecution must have enough evidence with which to go to court.
Defense attorneys are given wide latitude to not only present a defense, but to impeach the witness. Often, the alleged victim's conduct is fair game in a court of law. The Sixth Amendment guarantees us the right to face our accuser and to cross examine said accuser.
UNfortunatetly there are instances where the victim is put on trial.
Was she dressed in a provocative manner( I really think that one should be irrelevant but I don't get to make the rules of evidence)? Was she under the influence of a controlled substance? Was she able to clearly identify her alleged attacker? Did she invite the alleged attacker(s) to the place where the alleged attack occurred?
These and other questions such as this may seem unfair or unjust, but the system is set up such that everyone has equal access to their day in court,.
A perfect wexample is the now infamous Duke Lacrosse team rape case.
With some investigation and good work by the defense team for these three young men it was discovered the charges were a hoax.
Now if your knee jerk reaction allowed you to without seeing a single piece of evidence, say "guilty as charged" what would you have to say for yourself if you were wrong?
And in this case those 80 odd Duke professors that signed that statement which al but condemned these young men were DEAD wrong. The school and the Durham County prosecutor went out of his way to make sure these kids were going to prison.
Ass it turned out the men were innocent, the girl made up the whole story so that she could use the case to file suit against the families of the guys.
The now former prosecutor was not only forced out of his job, he lost his license to practice law. The county was forced to pay a rather large settlement to the men. Mike Nifong, the former Durham County prosecutor has a 10 million dollar judgement against him.
So you see, when your knee jerks and hits you in the chin, you're not always right.
So don't go saying "most" anything.....You liberals claim to be about fairness. Practice what you preach.
 
Twitter freaks out.

?Rape culture wins?: Feminist freakout after Miss Nevada dares suggest self defense training for women | Twitchy

I have to admit, this doesn't make sense even if I factor in Male Privilege.

You didn't read the actual Twitter comments then didja? You would have read their common theme, which is - "why should women have to defend against an act that shouldn't be committed in the first place?"

Think of it this way: it's the difference between addressing gun violence with gun control, and addressing it by changing the culture of violence. In this analogy, you appear to be on the side of gun control.

This same story was posted by Templar_Kormac. I didn't have a clue what the fuck he was talking about. Youse guys should read your own links. That's what they're there for.

I did read the comments, which is why I know you are picking out the ones that seem sane to you. Your problem is that you are approaching this believing that any of these people are sane.

Now, for the record, the actual comments were along the lines that she is promoting rape culture. Rape culture, in case you are unfamiliar with the term, is the belief that sexual violence is the result of white privilege. White men, apparently, have a belief that all women are subject to their whims. And, believe it or not, there are actually people out there that believe it is impossible to have consensual sex because all sex is rape in a rape culture.

But, please, keep enlightening me with your stupidity, it makes me feel so much better to mock you when I know I can't even match my worst performance at some of my favorite games.

Yeah...There is one person who is an attorney who professes the notion of "all sex is rape"...That person is Gloria Allred.
 
You didn't read the actual Twitter comments then didja? You would have read their common theme, which is - "why should women have to defend against an act that shouldn't be committed in the first place?"

Think of it this way: it's the difference between addressing gun violence with gun control, and addressing it by changing the culture of violence. In this analogy, you appear to be on the side of gun control.

This same story was posted by Templar_Kormac. I didn't have a clue what the fuck he was talking about. Youse guys should read your own links. That's what they're there for.

I did read the comments, which is why I know you are picking out the ones that seem sane to you. Your problem is that you are approaching this believing that any of these people are sane.

To the extent that anyone who gives Twitter the time of day is "sane", I simply read what they wrote in the linked article and figured it out. Not rocket surgery.

Now, for the record, the actual comments were along the lines that she is promoting rape culture. Rape culture, in case you are unfamiliar with the term, is the belief that sexual violence is the result of white privilege. White men, apparently, have a belief that all women are subject to their whims. And, believe it or not, there are actually people out there that believe it is impossible to have consensual sex because all sex is rape in a rape culture.

No, I didn't see anything remotely like that nor have I heard that before. But it doesn't escape me that I'm talking to a guy who just makes up alleged experiences as he goes along so... :dunno:

But, please, keep enlightening me with your stupidity, it makes me feel so much better to mock you when I know I can't even match my worst performance at some of my favorite games.

Please to bite my ass. You posted a mindless piece of nothing story about Twitter, of all nonentities, and then claimed not to understand what was being said, so I explained it. You're welcome.

Now go fuck yourself, with or without a rape culture.

"now go fuck yourself"...
Guess what genius? You just lost the argument.
You're done. Shut it.
 
Sorry ladies, but the vast majority of you will never stand a chance against a man. I dont care what belt you recieve at your local karate dojo, youll still lose in a physical altercation with a man. You MIGHT have a chance if you are extremely well versed in grappling, but you are going to get your ass handed to you in an actual fist fight. Are you bigger than most girls? Trust me, your size wont matter when you get punched in the mouth.

Learning martial arts can actually be a hindrence to women. It can build up a false sense of security. Take my advice, you are much better off just getting a gun.

A gun would be nice.
But there are martial arts which teach the student how to dispense pain.
One such art form is Krav Maga...This is a technique that is very simple to learn and make part of one's self.
it does not require excessive strength. Does not require a person be in top physical condition. Although the classes will wear you out.
This martial art is taught to all members of the Israeli military.
 
For the ladies reading this thread, I'd like to offer this bit of experience.

In my community, our police department offers a free women's self-defense course. I asked my lovely bride to take it and she was sweet enough to work it into her busy after work schedule.

She learned a great deal. The top lesson she learned wasn't the hand-to-hand fighting techniques which are very effective and easy to learn with a bit of practice. The most important lesson she took away from the class was situational awareness. She now stands a far better chance of never having to use her fighting skills because she is more knowledgeable of dangerous situations and she now keeps a closer eye on her surroundings.

The course emphasizes situational awareness. It teaches ladies TO CONTROL THEIR PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT.

For the ladies reading this, please give it a thought. You are very valuable to your loved ones. Learn to stay out of trouble. If you get into trouble, learn how to get out of it. After you take the course, recommend it to others. And most importantly, go back for a refresher once a year or so.

My Kentucky red head is frisky and feisty inwardly but very feminine and girly outwardly. It's now funny I thought she'd come out of the course with a Bruce Lee wup azz attitude but that was not the case. She's still the demure, quiet little lady. Only she knows that under the calm exterior lurks dynamite. I can barely see it in her eyes but just barely. She was confident before. Now, she's confident with training. I still worry about her but now I feel a little better knowing she's been trained by professional self-defense instructors.

That and she packs a .357
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Here's the part that send these flaming libs into orbit.
The awareness part. And of course the recognition of a potentially dangerous situation and avoiding it.
For some reason libs believe anyone should be able to go anywhere at any time and should not have to be concerned. To them, being told, "don't go there, it's not safe" makes them furious.
The fact is we live in a world filled with hazards. It is not a bad thing to be prepared and of course be smart enough to recognize a bad situation and avoid and evade.
Anyone who does not recognize these realities is either blinded by their ideology or an idiot.
 
common myths about rape

Here are some of the most common myths that surround rape and sexual assault:

Myth Do not go out alone at any time. Women are most likely to be raped outside, in dark alleyways late at night. This is the best way for a woman to protect herself.

Fact The suggestion of avoiding walking alone, especially at night is a common suggestion to avoiding sexual assault. However, only 9% of rapes are committed by 'strangers'. Women are raped in their homes and in their work places where they are less likely to be believed and even less likely to report. This myth can control movements and restricts freedom. This can feel like women are living under a 'curfew' and that it is a woman's responsibility to be either in or out at certain times. Around 90% of rapes are committed by known men.


Myth Women who are sexually assaulted 'ask for it' by the way they dress or act, rape only happens to young women.

Fact Many women are led to believe that if they are not part of a certain category of women then they are 'safe' from being raped. Women and girls of all ages, classes, culture, ability, sexuality, race and faith are raped. Attractiveness has little significance. Reports show that there is a great diversity in the way targeted women act or dress. Rapists choose women based on their vulnerability not their physical appearance.

Sometimes women see themselves as 'unworthy' or 'undesirable' because of their age or physical appearance and therefore 'safe' from rape. Some men joke or make comments about women's appearances or age to indicate whether she is sexually desirable or available, or as part of their defence in court, saying he thought 'he was doing her a favour', using her appearance or age. Women are raped from the age of three to ninety three. Rape is an act of violence not sex.




Myth Everyone knows when a woman says no, she often means yes. Women secretly want to be raped.

Fact Rape is a terrifying, violent and humiliating experience that no woman wants or asks for. Legally a person has the right to change their mind about having sex at any point of sexual contact. If a sexual partner does not stop at the time a person says no, this is sexual assault. If a person is in a relationship with someone or has had sex with a person before, this does not mean that they cannot be assaulted by that person. Consent must be given every time two people engage in sexual contact. Sex without consent is rape.




Myth The women was drunk / took drugs / had a bad reputation / was hitch hiking / wore tight clothes / seduced him / probably got what she was asking for.

Fact If a person is unconscious or their judgement is impaired by alcohol or drugs, legally they are unable to give consent. Having non-consensual sex with a person who is intoxicated is sexual assault.

Rapists use a variety of excuses to attempt to discredit the women they rape and to justify their crime. No woman asks or deserves to be rape or sexually assaulted. Often a rape case is defined more by the woman's character than by what has happened to her. Newspapers and mass media often refer to women in the roles that they have within society - 'young mother', 'grandmother', 'doctor's wife' etc. If the woman's role or social position is not seen as socially acceptable, she is often held responsible not the rapist. For example, the original 'Jack the Ripper' and Sutcliffe in the late 70's and 80's were glorified by the press. (Jack the ripper has his books, museum, cocktails, computer games and even tourist walks in London named after him where you can visit the places women were murdered!)

The rules imposed on women's behaviour allow rapists to shift the responsibility for rape onto women wherever possible, so that most of the perpetrators who rape are seen as victims of malicious allegations, carelessness or stupidity. There is no other crime in which so much effort is expended to make the victim appear responsible - imagine the character or financial background of a robbery victim being questioned in court.




Myth Women eventually relax and enjoy it. They secretly want to be raped

Fact There is a widely held belief that women enjoy rape or that it is 'just sex at the wrong time, in the wrong place'. Rape is a crime of sexual violence and humiliation which can involve being beaten, physical restraint, the use of knifes and sticks, urination and defecating. Studies have consistently shown that most rapes involve physical force to some degree. Often when a woman is raped she is afraid that she will be killed - rapists often use the threat of killing a woman or her children to ensure her 'submission' and her silence after the attack. Women do not enjoy sexual violence. Victims of murder, robbery and other crimes are never portrayed as enjoying the experience.




Myth The woman did not get hurt or fight back. It could not have been rape.

Fact Men who rape or sexually assault women and girls will often use weapons or threats of violence to intimidate women. The fact that there is no visible evidence of violence does not mean that a woman has not been raped.

Another myth that goes hand in hand with this is that ' rape is a fate worse than death' and this links with the belief that women should fight and resist throughout. Faced with the reality of rape, women make second by second decisions, all of which are directed at minimising the harm done to them. At the point where initial resistance, struggling, reasoning etc have failed, the fear of further violence often limits women's resistance. The only form of control that seems available to women at this point is limiting the harm done to them.




Myth Men of certain races and backgrounds are more likely to commit sexual violence.

Fact There is no typical rapist. Studies show that men who commit sexual violence come from every economic, ethnic, racial, age and social group. 85% of rapists are men known to their victims.




Myth Men who rape or sexually assault are mentally ill or monsters.

Fact Studies have indicated that as few as 5% of men are psychotic at the time of their crimes. Few convicted rapists are referred for psychiatric treatment.




Myth The man was drunk / on drugs / depressed / under stress / wasn't himself.

Fact Men use a variety of excuses to justify the act of rape. There is never an excuse.




Myth Once a man is sexually aroused he cannot help himself. He has to have sex.

Fact Studies show that most rapes are premeditated i.e. they are either wholly or partially planned in advance. All rapes committed by more than one assailant are always planned. Men can quite easily control their urges to have sex - they do not need to rape a woman to satisfy them. Rape is an act of violence - not sexual gratification. Men who rape or sexually assault does so to dominate, violate and control.




Myth Men who rape are sexually frustrated / do not have the opportunity to have sex with a willing partner.

Fact Men who rape are as likely as any other man to be cohabiting or having a significant relationship with a woman. More than one in five women are raped by their partners or their husbands. Women who work as prostitutes or in the sex industry are usually dismissed as rape victims because of bias by the police, criminal justice system, juries and society in general.




Myth Women often make up stories or lie about being raped.

Fact For anyone who has been raped or sexually assaulted, whether or not to report to the police can be a difficult decision. At present, it's estimated that only 15% of the 85,000 women who are raped and over 400,000 who are sexually assaulted in England and Wales every year report. One significant reason many women and girls tell us they don't go to the police is because of their fear of not being believed. Unfortunately, a disproportionate media focus on the very small number of cases each year that involve a so-called false allegation of sexual violence perpetuates the public perception that malicious false reporting is common. In fact, it is this perception that is entirely false. For many years, studies have suggested that false reporting rates for rape are no different from false reporting rates for any other crime, that is, around 4%. In March 2013, the Crown Prosecution Service published a survey confirming that false rape reports are 'very rare' and suggesting they could make up less than 1% of all reports. Read more here.




Myth Women cannot rape other women

Fact Only a man can commit the offence of Rape [Sec 1 (1) SOA 2003] as the penetration has to be with a penis. However, both women and men may experience rape. If the penetration is with something other than a penis, then the offence is assault by penetration. See Rape and the Law section.

The majority of sexual assaults are committed by men against women, but anyone can be sexually assaulted and emotional, physical and sexual abuse does happen in same sex relationships. Often when women are assaulted by other women they fear they will not be believed. It is important to realise that women who are assaulted by other women are able to access support and are believed.

Common misconceptions about rape
Ya know what? There is some validity here. But most of it appears to be hysterical nonsense.

For example...
" More than one in five women are raped by their partners or their husbands."...
Well, we have to define 'rape'....In the fringe conspiratorial groups, just about all sexual contact is considered 'rape'.
Just to let you know, my response to you is in no way intended to open a discussion. I have stated my piece and that's that.
 
I did read the comments, which is why I know you are picking out the ones that seem sane to you. Your problem is that you are approaching this believing that any of these people are sane.

To the extent that anyone who gives Twitter the time of day is "sane", I simply read what they wrote in the linked article and figured it out. Not rocket surgery.



No, I didn't see anything remotely like that nor have I heard that before. But it doesn't escape me that I'm talking to a guy who just makes up alleged experiences as he goes along so... :dunno:

But, please, keep enlightening me with your stupidity, it makes me feel so much better to mock you when I know I can't even match my worst performance at some of my favorite games.

Please to bite my ass. You posted a mindless piece of nothing story about Twitter, of all nonentities, and then claimed not to understand what was being said, so I explained it. You're welcome.

Now go fuck yourself, with or without a rape culture.

"now go fuck yourself"...
Guess what genius? You just lost the argument.
You're done. Shut it.

Is your name Quantum_Windbag?

Then it's not addressed to you, is it?

Dumb shit.
 
Aww, did I hurt your feelings?

Tough fucking shit. Remember way back when you first joined the forum and started trying to annoy me, and I told you you weren't worth my time?

Nnnnope. But I do remember you making all kinds of shit up that you can never document so stop the presses...
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My cognitive abilities are significantly impaired right now as a result of the medical treatment I am receiving

As if you had cognitive abilities to start with.

That's it coward, blame the drugs for being a dick. That way you're "not responsible". "It's the drugs talking". :eusa_hand:

Maybe the thing to do is stop trying to achieve 100,000 posts so you don't have to lash out when this lack of cognitive abilities is pointed out because you don't have the character to just man the fuck up.

Pissant.

I am not blaming the drugs for my attitude, fuckwad, that is completely natural. I am just pointing out that, even though the drugs are screwing with my ability to think, I can still argue circles around your pathetic ass.

Apparently not, but you can make shit up and claim it's real, there's no disputing that.
 

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