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Looks more like a series of not well understood natural cycles.
And yet you understand them - and the foremost scientists of our time don't. Funny, isn't it?
Can you see a natural cycle in thi chart?
So what? Worse things have happened in earth's history, like super-volcanos, asteroid hits... and Mother Nature always restores the balance. So just chill out, move to higher ground (I'm there) and relax.
And yet you understand them - and the foremost scientists of our time don't. Funny, isn't it?
Can you see a natural cycle in thi chart?
So what? Worse things have happened in earth's history, like super-volcanos, asteroid hits... and Mother Nature always restores the balance. So just chill out, move to higher ground (I'm there) and relax.
Mann's hokey stick? really? hahahaha
Winter Blitz: Snow and Ice Blanket Germany
Jack Frost continued to bite at Germany's nose on Tuesday, with snow still falling across many parts of Germany on Tuesday, following heavy snowfall on Sunday and Monday, the German Weather Service (DWD) reported. The service said that 3.5 billion tons of snow fell in the country on Sunday alone. With winter weather continuing, that figure could rise to 6 billion tons by Wednesday.
Cold days keep spring away from Manitoba
Moscow braces for biggest March snowfall in 50 years
Heavy snow blankets France and the UK, sparking transport chaos
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/t...in-Europe-cancelled-after-heavy-snowfall.htmlGermans in the eastern and southern parts of the country awoke to blowing snow on Wednesday, as a cold snap snarled morning traffic.
http://iceagenow.info/2012/10/surprise-october-snow-hits-central-germany-suspected-record/Flights in Europe cancelled after heavy snowfall
Heavy snow has fallen in several European cities, with Amsterdam one of the worst affected.
As well as the Netherlands, Northern France, Belgium and Germany have also been hit by the snow.
BA has been forced to cancel several services this morning going to the Dutch capital. According to the latest update, flights should resume at 11.45 today. However, flights from Heathrow to Paris, Munich, Geneva and Stockholm were cancelled earlier today, and delays are still affecting those routes.
The Dutch carrier KLM has cancelled all flights until noon today, although passengers who were scheduled to fly short-haul services to Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany and Paris are being offered replacement ground transportation.
It was just too obvious, that`s why most of the media jumped off the band wagon and many climatologists are now critics that don`t want to be associated any more with this ridiculous "science"Surprise October snow hits central Germany – Suspected record
By Robert On October 28, 2012 · 13 Comments
The severe drop in temperature – by 20 degrees within a week – also occurs “very, very seldom,” he added.
With winter’s first onslaught, fallen trees blocked train lines between Leipzig and Munich, causing delays and diversions to the ICE high speed rail network.
A further 10-15 cm of snow is expected overnight in the Alps and in the Ore Mountains in Saxony, where DWD said temperatures could fall as low as minus ten.
So what? Worse things have happened in earth's history, like super-volcanos, asteroid hits... and Mother Nature always restores the balance. So just chill out, move to higher ground (I'm there) and relax.
Mann's hokey stick? really? hahahaha
I`m not sure how to interpret your comment.
Mann`s custom hockey stick tailored to fit the CO2 monster has already been replaced by Met-offices around the world with this one:
Every major news media in Europe had it since January.
The only ones who still insist on Mann`s hockey stick are the reality deniers
Mann's hokey stick? really? hahahaha
I`m not sure how to interpret your comment.
Mann`s custom hockey stick tailored to fit the CO2 monster has already been replaced by Met-offices around the world with this one:
Every major news media in Europe had it since January.
The only ones who still insist on Mann`s hockey stick are the reality deniers
how to interpret my comment? MBH98/99 is as radioactive as Al Gore and the warmists have gone out of their way to avoid them. I was laughing because Saigon actually posted up a picture of the hockey stick graph even knowing the scorn with which it is held by everyone.
So what? Worse things have happened in earth's history, like super-volcanos, asteroid hits... and Mother Nature always restores the balance. So just chill out, move to higher ground (I'm there) and relax.
Mann's hokey stick? really? hahahaha
I`m not sure how to interpret your comment.
Mann`s custom hockey stick tailored to fit the CO2 monster has already been replaced by Met-offices around the world with this one:
Every major news media in Europe had it since January.
It was inevitable because it was obvious to the public anyways, graph or no graph..
record cold winters over the entire European Continent and North America....for over a decade now it`s been like this
Winter Weather Hits German Airports and Roads - SPIEGEL ONLINE
Cold days keep spring away from Manitoba - Manitoba - CBC News
Flights in Europe cancelled after heavy snowfall - Telegraph
Surprise October snow hits central Germany - Suspected recordFlights in Europe cancelled after heavy snowfall
Heavy snow has fallen in several European cities, with Amsterdam one of the worst affected.
As well as the Netherlands, Northern France, Belgium and Germany have also been hit by the snow.
BA has been forced to cancel several services this morning going to the Dutch capital. According to the latest update, flights should resume at 11.45 today. However, flights from Heathrow to Paris, Munich, Geneva and Stockholm were cancelled earlier today, and delays are still affecting those routes.
The Dutch carrier KLM has cancelled all flights until noon today, although passengers who were scheduled to fly short-haul services to Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany and Paris are being offered replacement ground transportation.
It was just too obvious, that`s why most of the media jumped off the band wagon and many climatologists are now critics that don`t want to be associated any more with this ridiculous "science"Surprise October snow hits central Germany Suspected record
By Robert On October 28, 2012 · 13 Comments
The severe drop in temperature by 20 degrees within a week also occurs very, very seldom, he added.
With winters first onslaught, fallen trees blocked train lines between Leipzig and Munich, causing delays and diversions to the ICE high speed rail network.
A further 10-15 cm of snow is expected overnight in the Alps and in the Ore Mountains in Saxony, where DWD said temperatures could fall as low as minus ten.
The only ones who still insist on Mann`s hockey stick are the reality deniers
Mann's hokey stick? really? hahahaha
I`m not sure how to interpret your comment.
Mann`s custom hockey stick tailored to fit the CO2 monster has already been replaced by Met-offices around the world with this one:
Every major news media in Europe had it since January.
It was inevitable because it was obvious to the public anyways, graph or no graph..
record cold winters over the entire European Continent and North America....for over a decade now it`s been like this
Winter Weather Hits German Airports and Roads - SPIEGEL ONLINE
Cold days keep spring away from Manitoba - Manitoba - CBC News
Flights in Europe cancelled after heavy snowfall - Telegraph
Surprise October snow hits central Germany - Suspected record
It was just too obvious, that`s why most of the media jumped off the band wagon and many climatologists are now critics that don`t want to be associated any more with this ridiculous "science"Surprise October snow hits central Germany Suspected record
By Robert On October 28, 2012 · 13 Comments
The severe drop in temperature by 20 degrees within a week also occurs very, very seldom, he added.
With winters first onslaught, fallen trees blocked train lines between Leipzig and Munich, causing delays and diversions to the ICE high speed rail network.
A further 10-15 cm of snow is expected overnight in the Alps and in the Ore Mountains in Saxony, where DWD said temperatures could fall as low as minus ten.
The only ones who still insist on Mann`s hockey stick are the reality deniers
Total BS.
"many climatologists are now critics and don't want to be associated any more with this ridiculous "science"
Great fabrication there and well produced but it does not sell to the overwhelming majority of scientists and 95%+ climatologists.
American Meterological Association AND The American Chemical Association as well as 16 other associations all agree that there is global warming and man plays a significant part in it.
I am sure your spin is based on science and theirs is liberal dogma.
I`m not sure how to interpret your comment.
Mann`s custom hockey stick tailored to fit the CO2 monster has already been replaced by Met-offices around the world with this one:
Every major news media in Europe had it since January.
It was inevitable because it was obvious to the public anyways, graph or no graph..
record cold winters over the entire European Continent and North America....for over a decade now it`s been like this
Winter Weather Hits German Airports and Roads - SPIEGEL ONLINE
Cold days keep spring away from Manitoba - Manitoba - CBC News
Flights in Europe cancelled after heavy snowfall - Telegraph
Surprise October snow hits central Germany - Suspected record
It was just too obvious, that`s why most of the media jumped off the band wagon and many climatologists are now critics that don`t want to be associated any more with this ridiculous "science"
The only ones who still insist on Mann`s hockey stick are the reality deniers
Total BS.
"many climatologists are now critics and don't want to be associated any more with this ridiculous "science"
Great fabrication there and well produced but it does not sell to the overwhelming majority of scientists and 95%+ climatologists.
American Meterological Association AND The American Chemical Association as well as 16 other associations all agree that there is global warming and man plays a significant part in it.
I am sure your spin is based on science and theirs is liberal dogma.
No, theirs is based on fraud and a desire to fleece the middle class of all of their wealth through exorbitant energy prices. Why else mandate that the USN buy AVGAS at 35 dollars a gallon when the regular stuff sells for 4?
You have to have government rules to get those kind of sweetheart deals. But don't believe us look up the head of the IPCC and see what he says about the 17 year long flat line for global temps. He's a devout warmist who has made millions from the scam. Seems kind of strange that he would admit it if it weren't true.
Don't you agree?
Key points translation:Die meiste Energie, die Treibhausgase in der Luft zurückhalten, gelangt in die Meere, sie sollten physikalischen Berechnungen zufolge etwa 90 Prozent der Energie schlucken. Die Wärme der Ozeane würde also den besten Indikator für die Klimaerwärmung liefern.
Das Problem ist, die große Wassermenge von geschätzten 700 Billiarden Litern in den Weltmeeren systematisch zu überwachen. Gerade mal gut 3000 Bojen treiben seit knapp zehn Jahren umher
Die Ergebnisse aber können andere Wissenschaftler nicht überzeugen. "Die Unsicherheiten der Daten sind zu groß", schreibt Kevin Trenberth vom National Center for Atmospheric Research in den USA (NOAA), einer der renommiertesten Experten auf dem Gebiet. "Wir müssen unsere Messungen verbessern".
Yes that`s how screwy the "math" is that "climatologists" employ.Under cap-and-trade, flying is greener than taking the bus
Dr Grischa Perino of the University of East Anglia uses the European Union Emissions Trading System (EU ETS) - a typical cap-and-trade scheme - as an example. Under the ETS, emissions by one company can be offset by another. Firms that hold more emission allowances than they need can sell these to other firms, which in turn use them to increase their own emissions
The problem is that only industries judged to be high-carbon, such as aviation and electricity generation, are included. Road transport, for instance, is not.
"If you consider making a trip from London to Glasgow, flying has higher physical [carbon] emissions than a coach journey," explains Dr Perino.
"However, additional emissions of flights are fully offset by the EU ETS, even without buying the offsets offered by most airlines when buying tickets, while those of the coach are not and therefore are additional.
Similarly, while an energy saving appliance used in the home might save you money as it may pay for its greater cost through lower electricity bills, it will not reduce carbon emissions. If less electricity is used, the power generation companies will have more allowances, which they will sell to someone else - airlines, maybe, or heavy industry - who will then be able to emit more carbon.
Dr Perino points out that most organisations active in the field of carbon emissions have failed to grasp these facts and thus the advice they give to people on reducing their carbon footprint is often quite wrong.
the media witch hunt has stopped.
I`m not sure how to interpret your comment.
Mann`s custom hockey stick tailored to fit the CO2 monster has already been replaced by Met-offices around the world with this one:
Every major news media in Europe had it since January.
It was inevitable because it was obvious to the public anyways, graph or no graph..
record cold winters over the entire European Continent and North America....for over a decade now it`s been like this
Winter Weather Hits German Airports and Roads - SPIEGEL ONLINE
Cold days keep spring away from Manitoba - Manitoba - CBC News
Flights in Europe cancelled after heavy snowfall - Telegraph
Surprise October snow hits central Germany - Suspected record
It was just too obvious, that`s why most of the media jumped off the band wagon and many climatologists are now critics that don`t want to be associated any more with this ridiculous "science"
The only ones who still insist on Mann`s hockey stick are the reality deniers
Total BS.
"many climatologists are now critics and don't want to be associated any more with this ridiculous "science"
Great fabrication there and well produced but it does not sell to the overwhelming majority of scientists and 95%+ climatologists.
American Meterological Association AND The American Chemical Association as well as 16 other associations all agree that there is global warming and man plays a significant part in it.
I am sure your spin is based on science and theirs is liberal dogma.
No, theirs is based on fraud and a desire to fleece the middle class of all of their wealth through exorbitant energy prices. Why else mandate that the USN buy AVGAS at 35 dollars a gallon when the regular stuff sells for 4?
You have to have government rules to get those kind of sweetheart deals. But don't believe us look up the head of the IPCC and see what he says about the 17 year long flat line for global temps. He's a devout warmist who has made millions from the scam. Seems kind of strange that he would admit it if it weren't true.
Don't you agree?
And consider the kind of conspiracy that Walleyes is stating. Every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University has to be in on that conspiracy. And all the governments, in spite of their very differant political systems. Now that is one grand conspiracy. Or a bunch of very large tinfoil hats.
Well, that is good news.the media witch hunt has stopped.
I just checked with your own excellent source - Der Spiegel - and found this statement and stories:
The next Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change forecasts won't be released until late 2013. But insiders say that thanks to faster computers and better models, the report will offer more precise predictions and adjust anticipated changes in sea levels and precipitation. By Olaf Stamp.
In 1972, environmental guru Dennis Meadows predicted in his seminal study "The Limits to Growth" that the world was heading toward an economic collapse. Forty years on, he tells SPIEGEL ONLINE that nothing he has seen since has made him change his mind.
Research published Thursday in the journal Science says that even slightly warmer temperatures could start melting permafrost, which in turn threatens to trigger the release of huge amounts of greenhouse gases trapped in ice. By Christoph Seidle.
As the United Nations climate change conference in Doha wraps up, many environmentalists are feeling hopeless about the lack of progress. But in a SPIEGEL interview, German government advisor Kai Konrad says that Berlin and Europe are taking the wrong approach to motivating others.
Global Warning
Heat waves, sinking cities, droughts and disappearing polar ice caps -- the effects of climate change are catastrophic.
Climate Change - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten
And consider the kind of conspiracy that Walleyes is stating. Every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University has to be in on that conspiracy. And all the governments, in spite of their very differant political systems. Now that is one grand conspiracy. Or a bunch of very large tinfoil hats.
This is one point that also baffles me - the idea that literally tens of thousands of people could be a part of some masive conspiracy.
I wonder if there is really a single person on this forum who believes all of he dozens of governments in the world would be capable of keeping such a thing secret even if they wanted to?
It also seems more than a litrle unlikely to me that a young person would spend years studying physics at university, would learn how to conduct great research - and then go out in the world determined to fake the results every project they touched.
It really is some way beyond silly.
Massive snow storms are delaying the return of the Sojus capsuleÜberraschung beim Abkoppeln: Wegen eines Schneesturms in Kasachstan wurde der Rückflug von drei Raumfahrern kurzfristig verschoben, das Manöver zum Abkoppeln der Sojus-Kapsel gestoppt. Nun sollen sie am Freitag abdocken.
nice charts dub. but once again, what % of the atmosphere is CO2?
What makes you think a small % can't do things? Would you like to test some nerve gas and prove your point? Even the smallest percentage of a greenhouse gas traps more heat than the large percentages of nitrogen and oxygen that aren't greenhouse gases. Only water traps more heat than CO2.
The amount of CO2 was not the same in the past and who knows what kind of shitty asshole you pulled that from. The amount of CO2 has shown a constant rise and seasonal trend since it was first measured. All the ice cores agree the amount of CO2 was 0.028% before the industrial age.
Just how much of that 4.5 billion years had life on the planet? You couldn't live on Earth as it was when life started.
btw. For about the 400th time on these threads - it is impossible that research science results are based on funding.
Looks more like a series of not well understood natural cycles.
And yet you understand them - and the foremost scientists of our time don't. Funny, isn't it?
Can you see a natural cycle in thi chart?
The amount of CO2 was not the same in the past and who knows what kind of shitty asshole you pulled that from. The amount of CO2 has shown a constant rise and seasonal trend since it was first measured. All the ice cores agree the amount of CO2 was 0.028% before the industrial age.
All the ice cores also show that a rise in atmospheric CO2 follows a rise in the global temperature meaning that it is a result, not a cause. That being the fact, why do you guys now assume that suddenly, CO2 is causing warming.
btw. For about the 400th time on these threads - it is impossible that research science results are based on funding.
Saying 40000 times won't make it true. Researchers themselves have stated that funding dries up if you don't tow the line. Turn in results that buck the consensus and you risk ending your career.
