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Yes it is. An armed cop was there, he stood outside. More armed cops showed up, and they stood outside. Explain it.
I can explain it.
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So I suppose if the cops every responded to a shooting where you were you would be just fine with them waiting outside until the shooter ran out of ammo or killed everyone right?No it isn't. We have no idea if the cop on duty had responded he would have been able to stop any murders.if you support him, it's because you're an asshole
Quit talking out of your feathery ass.
Colion Noir to Parkland survivors: If an armed guard had stopped the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School massacre, “your classmates would still be alive, and no one would know your names.”
You don't agree with that statement?
Exactly, and even when other cops showed up, they didn't go in either. 100 people could have been armed with guns, and we still wouldn't have known if any of them would have had the balls to go inside. Just because a person has a gun... or has a gun and has gone through gun training... you have no idea what they will do when the shit hits the fan, until the shit really does hit the fan.
Where do you get that out of what I said? At all?
I've worked in a place where you HAVE to depend on others for your safety... and I've seen people with training, that when shit went down and they froze in fear. I've also seen people that you might not think would get into a bad situation not hesitate at all.
The point is, just because someone is armed and has had training, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what they will do when a REAL situation happens. Assuming they will try to stop a shooter is not logical. Do you have a crystal ball?
After 30 yrs they should have had a pretty good idea. I assume he was not very invested in the lives of those he was supposed to protect.So I suppose if the cops every responded to a shooting where you were you would be just fine with them waiting outside until the shooter ran out of ammo or killed everyone right?No it isn't. We have no idea if the cop on duty had responded he would have been able to stop any murders.Quit talking out of your feathery ass.
Colion Noir to Parkland survivors: If an armed guard had stopped the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School massacre, “your classmates would still be alive, and no one would know your names.”
You don't agree with that statement?
Exactly, and even when other cops showed up, they didn't go in either. 100 people could have been armed with guns, and we still wouldn't have known if any of them would have had the balls to go inside. Just because a person has a gun... or has a gun and has gone through gun training... you have no idea what they will do when the shit hits the fan, until the shit really does hit the fan.
Where do you get that out of what I said? At all?
I've worked in a place where you HAVE to depend on others for your safety... and I've seen people with training, that when shit went down and they froze in fear. I've also seen people that you might not think would get into a bad situation not hesitate at all.
The point is, just because someone is armed and has had training, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what they will do when a REAL situation happens. Assuming they will try to stop a shooter is not logical. Do you have a crystal ball?
Funny thing about forums such as USMB, and this is something I've seen and learned over the years, your right of free speech on them extends only as far as the owner of the board wants it to...
After 30 yrs they should have had a pretty good idea. I assume he was not very invested in the lives of those he was supposed to protect.So I suppose if the cops every responded to a shooting where you were you would be just fine with them waiting outside until the shooter ran out of ammo or killed everyone right?No it isn't. We have no idea if the cop on duty had responded he would have been able to stop any murders.
Exactly, and even when other cops showed up, they didn't go in either. 100 people could have been armed with guns, and we still wouldn't have known if any of them would have had the balls to go inside. Just because a person has a gun... or has a gun and has gone through gun training... you have no idea what they will do when the shit hits the fan, until the shit really does hit the fan.
Where do you get that out of what I said? At all?
I've worked in a place where you HAVE to depend on others for your safety... and I've seen people with training, that when shit went down and they froze in fear. I've also seen people that you might not think would get into a bad situation not hesitate at all.
The point is, just because someone is armed and has had training, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what they will do when a REAL situation happens. Assuming they will try to stop a shooter is not logical. Do you have a crystal ball?
Except many of the students said they have seen and talked to him all the time.
It's not called empathy? Yes it is, and you can't accurately have empathy for someone without hearing their story. Now it certainly sounds like you are for taking away the first amendment rights of victims.
A lot of law enforcement agencies have a rule about going inside a building during an active shooter situation... because they fear traps that include explosives.
It's not called empathy? Yes it is, and you can't accurately have empathy for someone without hearing their story. Now it certainly sounds like you are for taking away the first amendment rights of victims.
Oh it does does it? First you leak your feminine side with appeals to emotion. Then you show your marxist side with claims that responding to a liberal-certified-and-protected-victim on the attack is taking away his free speech???
As I said..wont work.
A lot of law enforcement agencies have a rule about going inside a building during an active shooter situation... because they fear traps that include explosives.
No they dont. And that isnt what happened here. The deputy claimed he thought the shooter was outside. And you want to complain about strawmen?
Having empathy and emotion is not a feminine quality. Maybe you should get out of your cave every once in awhile.
A lot of law enforcement agencies have a rule about going inside a building during an active shooter situation... because they fear traps that include explosives.
No they dont. And that isnt what happened here. The deputy claimed he thought the shooter was outside. And you want to complain about strawmen?
He thought he was outside? Is that why he stood right outside of the door where it was happening? Have you ever heard a gun shot? You can tell from the sound if it happens inside or outside of a building.
What in the fuck is wrong with someone that they would say this? If the NRA doesn't want to continue to look like complete assholes, they need to kick this guy out.
"Colion Noir took a moment to address the recent shooting at a Maryland high school that was cut short by a St. Mary’s County Sheriff’s deputy. Had a similar “good guy with a gun” been present at Marjory Douglas High School, Noir taunted the student organizers, “no one would know your names.”"
NRA TV Taunts Parkland Shooting Survivors Before March For Our Lives
If you criticize Noir, it's cuz you're a racist.
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No, I'll criticize him because he is a fucking idiot.
Having empathy and emotion is not a feminine quality. Maybe you should get out of your cave every once in awhile.
Females dont have empathy? Have the feminists won that completely?
But to reiterate what I said...you appeal to emotion because you are a liberal girly man. Not empathy. Emotion.
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A lot of law enforcement agencies have a rule about going inside a building during an active shooter situation... because they fear traps that include explosives.
No they dont. And that isnt what happened here. The deputy claimed he thought the shooter was outside. And you want to complain about strawmen?
He thought he was outside? Is that why he stood right outside of the door where it was happening? Have you ever heard a gun shot? You can tell from the sound if it happens inside or outside of a building.
I should never argue with a marxist...especially a retarded one. I know this. Yet I did it.
...seriously the guy doesn't know shit about what COULD HAVE HAPPENED. If a guy was armed in the school he could have been shot and killed and stopped nothing. No one will ever know. It doesn't make it right for him to attack victims.
The media used the word "taunts". He's not "attacking" anyone. He made a statement...in my opinion a true statement.
"Taunts" came directly from Media Matters.
NRATV taunts Parkland students over their dead classmates
It IS a taunt. Sometimes you shouldn't say things just because you THINK it is true.
What he is saying is similar to someone telling a woman that got raped that she deserved it because she dressed slutty.
...seriously the guy doesn't know shit about what COULD HAVE HAPPENED. If a guy was armed in the school he could have been shot and killed and stopped nothing. No one will ever know. It doesn't make it right for him to attack victims.
The media used the word "taunts". He's not "attacking" anyone. He made a statement...in my opinion a true statement.
"Taunts" came directly from Media Matters.
NRATV taunts Parkland students over their dead classmates
It IS a taunt. Sometimes you shouldn't say things just because you THINK it is true.
What he is saying is similar to someone telling a woman that got raped that she deserved it because she dressed slutty.
To the contrary, it is like telling a woman that got raped that a small concealed weapon might well have prevented that rape.
As I understand his meaning, if the so called sheriff's deputies (jerks) who had guns had gone inside at Parkland, those kids would still be alive today and therefore, no one would know their names. And if that was his meaning, he is 100% correct. The reason those kids died is because it was a gun free zone and therefore they were sitting ducks to a criminal who always have access to guns, showed up carrying one. This is exactly what will keep happening if guns are removed from law abiding citizens, criminals will continue to have them and just turn on society even more knowing no one else will be carrying and be able to stop them.What in the fuck is wrong with someone that they would say this? If the NRA doesn't want to continue to look like complete assholes, they need to kick this guy out.
"Colion Noir took a moment to address the recent shooting at a Maryland high school that was cut short by a St. Mary’s County Sheriff’s deputy. Had a similar “good guy with a gun” been present at Marjory Douglas High School, Noir taunted the student organizers, “no one would know your names.”"
NRA TV Taunts Parkland Shooting Survivors Before March For Our Lives
Listen up. Jackwad YOU said he had criminal record....he didn't. Lick your wounds and stfu
The cops had a record on him. They went to his house 43 times. So he had a criminal record. And was still able to buy a machine gun.
Seriously, if our gun laws can't keep guns out of the hands of THAT guy, they are pretty useless.
They are wrong
They are crying for the government to protect them rather than learning to protect themselves.
The government has no obligation to protect you and they will learn this the hard way after they have thrown away their second amendment rights then they'll be wishing they hadn't.
Yeah, guy... here's the thing.
a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a family member than a bad guy.
we have 32,000 gun deaths a year, but only 200 of them involve self-defense by civilians.
Most of the world limits who can have a gun, they have nowhere near our homicide rates.
That's true. But also, even if he had gone inside, there is no knowing if he would have been able to find the shooter in time to shoot at him, and if he did, if he would have killed the shooter or been killed himself. It's all speculation. High schools are big. This guy killed 17 people in 6 minutes. The cop outside wouldn't know anything was happening right away or exactly where the shooter was. By the time he found him, how many people would already be dead?No it isn't. We have no idea if the cop on duty had responded he would have been able to stop any murders.if you support him, it's because you're an assholeWhat in the fuck is wrong with someone that they would say this? If the NRA doesn't want to continue to look like complete assholes, they need to kick this guy out.
"Colion Noir took a moment to address the recent shooting at a Maryland high school that was cut short by a St. Mary’s County Sheriff’s deputy. Had a similar “good guy with a gun” been present at Marjory Douglas High School, Noir taunted the student organizers, “no one would know your names.”"
NRA TV Taunts Parkland Shooting Survivors Before March For Our Lives
If you criticize Noir, it's cuz you're a racist.
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Quit talking out of your feathery ass.
Colion Noir to Parkland survivors: If an armed guard had stopped the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School massacre, “your classmates would still be alive, and no one would know your names.”
You don't agree with that statement?
Exactly, and even when other cops showed up, they didn't go in either. 100 people could have been armed with guns, and we still wouldn't have known if any of them would have had the balls to go inside. Just because a person has a gun... or has a gun and has gone through gun training... you have no idea what they will do when the shit hits the fan, until the shit really does hit the fan.
