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Your ancestors beat, raped and sold the children of other human beings for no other reason than they considered them to be subhuman
It took another 100 years after the Civil war to force them to treat them as equals
Notherners also considered blacks to be sub-human. Free whites opposed slavery only because they didn't want to compete with slave labor. They didn't consider blacks to be their equals. The black codes in Northern states made it almost impossible for free blacks to live there.
Your ancestors are just as guilty
Racism existed...no doubt. We mistreated Chinese and Native Americans too. But Slavery was upping the ante to a whole new level.
The North didn't invade the South over slavery, so your crocodile tears are shed in vain.
The North invaded the South because they were attacked by the South. But you would have had the U.S. government roll over and take it. You're like Chamberlain in that regard.
Wrong again. Lincoln was warned not to resupply Fort Sumpter. He had to send federal ships into South Carolina waters to do so. The federal government trespassed on South Carolina territory. That's an act of war. Those who accuse South Carolina of starting the war are simply morons who don't understand international law.
Of course he did...that is how you deal with traitors
The South had no right to secede.....none
They weren't traitors according to the language in the Consitution, you fucking moron. Lincoln was the tratior.
As soon as they fired on the U.S. Military Installation, they were.
Notherners also considered blacks to be sub-human. Free whites opposed slavery only because they didn't want to compete with slave labor. They didn't consider blacks to be their equals. The black codes in Northern states made it almost impossible for free blacks to live there.
Your ancestors are just as guilty
Racism existed...no doubt. We mistreated Chinese and Native Americans too. But Slavery was upping the ante to a whole new level.
Now you're splitting hairs to get your ancestors off the hook when they were just as vile as the people you condemn. You even chuckle about them getting murdered by federal troops.
What a fine human being you are.
That is one sick mother fucking post
Defending the right to own property when that property is another human being
That's "presentism" which is an historical fallacy. I doubt you'd care to have your own morality judged by whatever the standard is 150 years from now. Yes, at the time, my ancestors owned slaves, but while they may have thought of them as lesser beings (often viewing them as a childlike race in need of supervision and discipline) they (along with most Southerners) thought it wrong to abuse, neglect, or mistreat slaves, and treated them with considerable kindness, by the standards of the time. Yankee "free soilers", by contrast, hated and despised the Blacks, did not want them anywhere, and the original intent was to deport them all to Africa or South America. Can you truly say one was worse than the other?
Your ancestors beat, raped and sold the children of other human beings for no other reason than they considered them to be subhuman
It took another 100 years after the Civil war to force them to treat them as equals
That's "presentism" which is an historical fallacy. I doubt you'd care to have your own morality judged by whatever the standard is 150 years from now. Yes, at the time, my ancestors owned slaves, but while they may have thought of them as lesser beings (often viewing them as a childlike race in need of supervision and discipline) they (along with most Southerners) thought it wrong to abuse, neglect, or mistreat slaves, and treated them with considerable kindness, by the standards of the time. Yankee "free soilers", by contrast, hated and despised the Blacks, did not want them anywhere, and the original intent was to deport them all to Africa or South America. Can you truly say one was worse than the other?
Your ancestors beat, raped and sold the children of other human beings for no other reason than they considered them to be subhuman
It took another 100 years after the Civil war to force them to treat them as equals
You're a fucking idiot....
So you buy a slave for $600-700 bucks ($30,000 in modern times) and you beat the fuck out of your investment?? That's like buying a BMW and beating the shit out of it for fun..
Oh and I love how you progressive fucks act like a) the present "evil white man" should be responsible for your exaggerated lies about slavery and b) every "evil white man" has ancestors that partook in slavery....
Guess what asshole? Both sides of my family didn't arrive to the US until the late 19th century.... So I'm getting pretty pissed hearing this stupid shit from progressives like guys my age somehow owe blacks something....
You know what? I'm a Sicilian - blacks loved to rape and enslave us Sicilians, as did the Arabs and any culture in that region.... But hey that is forgivable right???? The only slaves that matter were the ones who were purchased from African tribes by the Dutch and Spanish right??
Why don't you go bitch at the Africans for selling them to the Dutch and Spanish and go bitch at the Spanish and Dutch for trading them to occupants of the New World??
Oh yeah sorry that part of history was probably skipped in your progressive history books..
Now you're splitting hairs to get your ancestors off the hook when they were just as vile as the people you condemn. You even chuckle about them getting murdered by federal troops.
What a fine human being you are.
I don't call people property if that's what you mean.
Your stupidity defies comprehension. Slavery was legal. It was even enshrined in the Constitution. Northern police helped enfore slavery by returning run-away slaves to their owners.
Not only that but blacks weren't the only slaves - there were many slaves of other races including Europeans...
You mean indentured servants. Contracts signed for $$$ and temporary, not generational.
Hardly the same....but if you want to....point out the European slaves freed with the Civil War.
Now you're splitting hairs to get your ancestors off the hook when they were just as vile as the people you condemn. You even chuckle about them getting murdered by federal troops.
What a fine human being you are.
I don't call people property if that's what you mean.
Your ancestors did. And you wallow in the blood they shed.
I knew you were stupid, but I honestly had no idea how stupid til I sit here reading your post attempting to equate Indentured Servants with Black Slaves.Not only that but blacks weren't the only slaves - there were many slaves of other races including Europeans...
You mean indentured servants. Contracts signed for $$$ and temporary, not generational.
Hardly the same....but if you want to....point out the European slaves freed with the Civil War.
You know why they were indentured slaves on contracts as much as 10+ years??? because they weren't property and entered into an agreement.... Slaves were property because they were purchased when they got off the boat.....
Now I have no idea as to why the children born in the US of slaves off the boat were not freed...
Lets also not forget there were plenty of free black folks in the north that didn't come from a slavery background - they were regular immigrants that paid their ticket on the boat..
Also the notion that slaves were treated poorly is absolute bullshit. I'm not saying some didn't slapped around but the majority were treated respectfully.... Many were just simple servants.... Some plantation owners could be quite brutal but most slaves worked on small farms..... Lets also not forget slaves were expensive - its not like every family could afford one (or want one)....
Truth is slavery has been extremely exaggerated in context...
Your ancestors beat, raped and sold the children of other human beings for no other reason than they considered them to be subhuman
It took another 100 years after the Civil war to force them to treat them as equals
You're a fucking idiot....
So you buy a slave for $600-700 bucks ($30,000 in modern times) and you beat the fuck out of your investment?? That's like buying a BMW and beating the shit out of it for fun..
Oh and I love how you progressive fucks act like a) the present "evil white man" should be responsible for your exaggerated lies about slavery and b) every "evil white man" has ancestors that partook in slavery....
Guess what asshole? Both sides of my family didn't arrive to the US until the late 19th century.... So I'm getting pretty pissed hearing this stupid shit from progressives like guys my age somehow owe blacks something....
You know what? I'm a Sicilian - blacks loved to rape and enslave us Sicilians, as did the Arabs and any culture in that region.... But hey that is forgivable right???? The only slaves that matter were the ones who were purchased from African tribes by the Dutch and Spanish right??
Why don't you go bitch at the Africans for selling them to the Dutch and Spanish and go bitch at the Spanish and Dutch for trading them to occupants of the New World??
Oh yeah sorry that part of history was probably skipped in your progressive history books..
You mean the Portuguese first, right? Didn't you get an education? Wait....what am I saying? Mr. Nick....an education?
Not only that but blacks weren't the only slaves - there were many slaves of other races including Europeans...
You mean indentured servants. Contracts signed for $$$ and temporary, not generational.
Hardly the same....but if you want to....point out the European slaves freed with the Civil War.
You know why they were indentured slaves on contracts as much as 10+ years??? because they weren't property and entered into an agreement.... Slaves were property because they were purchased when they got off the boat.....
Now I have no idea as to why the children born in the US of slaves off the boat were not freed...
Lets also not forget there were plenty of free black folks in the north that didn't come from a slavery background - they were regular immigrants that paid their ticket on the boat..
Also the notion that slaves were treated poorly is absolute bullshit. I'm not saying some didn't slapped around but the majority were treated respectfully.... Many were just simple servants.... Some plantation owners could be quite brutal but most slaves worked on small farms..... Lets also not forget slaves were expensive - its not like every family could afford one (or want one)....
Truth is slavery has been extremely exaggerated in context...
I knew you were stupid, but I honestly had no idea how stupid til I sit here reading your post attempting to equate Indentured Servants with Black Slaves.You mean indentured servants. Contracts signed for $$$ and temporary, not generational.
Hardly the same....but if you want to....point out the European slaves freed with the Civil War.
You know why they were indentured slaves on contracts as much as 10+ years??? because they weren't property and entered into an agreement.... Slaves were property because they were purchased when they got off the boat.....
Now I have no idea as to why the children born in the US of slaves off the boat were not freed...
Lets also not forget there were plenty of free black folks in the north that didn't come from a slavery background - they were regular immigrants that paid their ticket on the boat..
Also the notion that slaves were treated poorly is absolute bullshit. I'm not saying some didn't slapped around but the majority were treated respectfully.... Many were just simple servants.... Some plantation owners could be quite brutal but most slaves worked on small farms..... Lets also not forget slaves were expensive - its not like every family could afford one (or want one)....
Truth is slavery has been extremely exaggerated in context...
I knew you were stupid, but I honestly had no idea how stupid til I sit here reading your post attempting to equate Indentured Servants with Black Slaves.You know why they were indentured slaves on contracts as much as 10+ years??? because they weren't property and entered into an agreement.... Slaves were property because they were purchased when they got off the boat.....
Now I have no idea as to why the children born in the US of slaves off the boat were not freed...
Lets also not forget there were plenty of free black folks in the north that didn't come from a slavery background - they were regular immigrants that paid their ticket on the boat..
Also the notion that slaves were treated poorly is absolute bullshit. I'm not saying some didn't slapped around but the majority were treated respectfully.... Many were just simple servants.... Some plantation owners could be quite brutal but most slaves worked on small farms..... Lets also not forget slaves were expensive - its not like every family could afford one (or want one)....
Truth is slavery has been extremely exaggerated in context...
You do realize many indentured "servants" were slaves for life right or at least until they were too old to use????
Not only did they have to pay the transportation debt off but when they arrived they had to pay for their food, room and board, clothing, medical expenses etc....... Most servants had to take their master to court to get out of the debt. That was a bold move considering they would pretty much be screwed for life if they lost their claim....
Black slaves were able to take the same legal route but they needed a white sponsor that was willing to buy them at "fair market value"...
You mean indentured servants. Contracts signed for $$$ and temporary, not generational.
Hardly the same....but if you want to....point out the European slaves freed with the Civil War.
You know why they were indentured slaves on contracts as much as 10+ years??? because they weren't property and entered into an agreement.... Slaves were property because they were purchased when they got off the boat.....
Now I have no idea as to why the children born in the US of slaves off the boat were not freed...
Lets also not forget there were plenty of free black folks in the north that didn't come from a slavery background - they were regular immigrants that paid their ticket on the boat..
Also the notion that slaves were treated poorly is absolute bullshit. I'm not saying some didn't slapped around but the majority were treated respectfully.... Many were just simple servants.... Some plantation owners could be quite brutal but most slaves worked on small farms..... Lets also not forget slaves were expensive - its not like every family could afford one (or want one)....
Truth is slavery has been extremely exaggerated in context...
It's really a sad reflection on our society that you would still feel that way
There is a huge difference between someone selling their services and a complete stranger selling your services.
Not only were slaves treated poorly, but blacks as a class were treated poorly for the next 100 years. 3000 lynchings is not respectful treatment
Blacks were treated somewhat civilly as long as they knew their place. They were lower class creatures who were treated as such. Beatings, rapes, bran dings, and the selling of your children were commonplace.
You know why they were indentured slaves on contracts as much as 10+ years??? because they weren't property and entered into an agreement.... Slaves were property because they were purchased when they got off the boat.....
Now I have no idea as to why the children born in the US of slaves off the boat were not freed...
Lets also not forget there were plenty of free black folks in the north that didn't come from a slavery background - they were regular immigrants that paid their ticket on the boat..
Also the notion that slaves were treated poorly is absolute bullshit. I'm not saying some didn't slapped around but the majority were treated respectfully.... Many were just simple servants.... Some plantation owners could be quite brutal but most slaves worked on small farms..... Lets also not forget slaves were expensive - its not like every family could afford one (or want one)....
Truth is slavery has been extremely exaggerated in context...
It's really a sad reflection on our society that you would still feel that way
There is a huge difference between someone selling their services and a complete stranger selling your services.
Not only were slaves treated poorly, but blacks as a class were treated poorly for the next 100 years. 3000 lynchings is not respectful treatment
Blacks were treated somewhat civilly as long as they knew their place. They were lower class creatures who were treated as such. Beatings, rapes, bran dings, and the selling of your children were commonplace.
First off it is not "our" society it was THEIR society......
Not to mention everyone on this planet is a descended from a slave... What makes American slavery any worse than other slavery that has occurred throughout history???
If anything the US practiced the most civil slavery in history....
Slaves weren't a dime a dozen - they were luxuries..... People don't beat the shit out of and rape their luxury assets.....
I'm getting quite sick of progressives portraying slaves as human punching bags and baby factories...
I knew you were stupid, but I honestly had no idea how stupid til I sit here reading your post attempting to equate Indentured Servants with Black Slaves.
You do realize many indentured "servants" were slaves for life right or at least until they were too old to use????
Not only did they have to pay the transportation debt off but when they arrived they had to pay for their food, room and board, clothing, medical expenses etc....... Most servants had to take their master to court to get out of the debt. That was a bold move considering they would pretty much be screwed for life if they lost their claim....
Black slaves were able to take the same legal route but they needed a white sponsor that was willing to buy them at "fair market value"...
ONLY if they contracted to do that. Now...show us where black slaves had the option to make such contracts.....
Also...show us where black slaves had the option to even GO to court.
It's really a sad reflection on our society that you would still feel that way
There is a huge difference between someone selling their services and a complete stranger selling your services.
Not only were slaves treated poorly, but blacks as a class were treated poorly for the next 100 years. 3000 lynchings is not respectful treatment
Blacks were treated somewhat civilly as long as they knew their place. They were lower class creatures who were treated as such. Beatings, rapes, bran dings, and the selling of your children were commonplace.
First off it is not "our" society it was THEIR society......
Not to mention everyone on this planet is a descended from a slave... What makes American slavery any worse than other slavery that has occurred throughout history???
If anything the US practiced the most civil slavery in history....
Slaves weren't a dime a dozen - they were luxuries..... People don't beat the shit out of and rape their luxury assets.....
I'm getting quite sick of progressives portraying slaves as human punching bags and baby factories...
Nick....I'm begging you.
Stop
Just leave the thread and pretend it doesn't exist. Your posts embarrass not only you, but everyone in our society. I realize there are still people like you out there......but you are better off not advertising the fact
You do realize many indentured "servants" were slaves for life right or at least until they were too old to use????
Not only did they have to pay the transportation debt off but when they arrived they had to pay for their food, room and board, clothing, medical expenses etc....... Most servants had to take their master to court to get out of the debt. That was a bold move considering they would pretty much be screwed for life if they lost their claim....
Black slaves were able to take the same legal route but they needed a white sponsor that was willing to buy them at "fair market value"...
ONLY if they contracted to do that. Now...show us where black slaves had the option to make such contracts.....
Also...show us where black slaves had the option to even GO to court.
Do you not see what they did with indentured servants? They would pay for the boat ride, get of the boat and go to their sponsors home and work - the catch was that they were never able to work off the boat ride because they would be working for room and board, food, medical bills, clothing etc - that's all their work covered....... It only took about 100 years to put an end to that and allow a slave to challenge his or her master....
Now with black slaves - both the slave and his/her sponsor (buyer) could sue the slave owner to force the owner to sell the slave (release) at fair market value... It was really nothing more than a arbitration used to settle slave disputes, however it was used many times to "free" slaves.....
