More sense than you; that's for sure.
First, maybe 20% at most of americans have been infected.
Yes; but I have a relative who was a chemist for for Eli Lilly for 20 years and my daughter is a Physical Therapist who knows the chemistry and biology.
Good god what does that have to do with anything? Why oh why do you present these worthless anecdotes EVERY time?
You tell us. Too big a sissy to answer your own question?
We do not know if there will be long term sides, or a bad reaction to new viruses, or if every person vaccinated grows a third arm.Even if thousands who have been vaccinated are in the hospital which is very doubtful since virtually all cases in the hospital today have not been fully vaccinated. Since the number of doses given have exceed 330 million, the effectiveness of the vaccines at keeping corvid cases out of the hospital are exceeding initial claims for all 3 vaccines. The mRNA vaccines are proving to be the safest and most effective of any vaccine approved by the FDA. Over 6 the months following the beginning of public vaccinations, deaths, hospitalizations, and new cases of covid have fallen over 90% (new cases down 96%. daily deaths down 94%, hospitalizations down 93%.)
Why? It's not effective. Thousands that have been vaccinated are now being hospitalized. I'm flummoxed as I listen to the masses just swallow the propaganda, censorship, and lies from the CDC, media, mainstream news. It's utterly astounding.
"Fully vaccinated against Covid-19? Attending an outdoor wedding? Absolutely nothing to worry about, right?
That would be wrong, wrong as a bathroom gong."
Outdoor Wedding: 6 Fully Vaccinated Infected With Covid-19 Delta Variant
One attendee died. Another was hospitalized. While the Covid-19 vaccines do offer good protection, protection is not 100%.www.forbes.com
Virtually all hospitalized Covid patients have one thing in common: They're unvaccinated
"I haven't had anyone that's been fully vaccinated become critically ill," one doctor said.www.nbcnews.com
United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.www.worldometers.info
Hundreds of thousands have had serious injuries. Tens of thousands have died from the injection......through 6 months. We have no idea of the effects of this injection when a vaccinated person encounters a wild virus. We don't know yet.
We have only the history of vaccines, viruses, and the research of thousands of scientist over decades to go by. This
history tells us that severe side effects are extremely rare, and if they do occur, they usually happen within the first two months. We also have the work of thousands of scientist that confirm this. Then we have the simple fact that these vaccines do their work and are gone from the body within about 7 days.
Yes, we could have terrible reactions in the future, a third arm may appear in those vaccinated or a giant asteroid could collide with the earth but the far more likely outcome of not using vaccines would be tens of million of needlessly lost lives.
We have a history of vaccines that have gone through rigorous clinical studies that take anywhere from 5-12 years before they are brought to market. This mRNA sailed through in 3 months. That should set off some red flags, especially in light of the thousands of deaths now along with hundreds of thousands of debilitating injuries. I'll dismiss your third arm and asteroids since those aren't relevant to the topic and have nothing to do with these dangerous injections. We will know more in 5 years. Hopefully, it won't be too late.
The Polio vaccine went through a year of clinical trials before it was deemed safe and ready for use. Vaccines do not go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" even back then. What sometimes happens with some vaccines is that it may take years to weaken the virus in order for it to be used safely in humans. Thankfully human advancement in science and medicine has allowed us to develop vaccines much faster without this process. Even the last flu vaccine, which was not MRNA was tested and rolled out within a few months. Surely you realize we are no longer living in the 1950s anymore and using 1950s technology.
In 5 years it will be too late, all the anti vaxxers around the globe will have made this virus permanent, requiring boosters for every new variant that pop up. One probably more deadlier than the next. All the while millions will die along the way.
Wrong.
The Salk vaccine was started in 1948 and was not available to the public until 1957.
No vaccine before was ever considered save in less than 6 years.
It has neve taken years to weaken a virus, and generally they try to totally kill the virus completely.
No flu vaccine has ever been produced in less than 5 years.
That is why they never work well.
The virus they used to produce the vaccine is never the same one that is making the rounds that winter.
The mRNA vaccines have only been around since 2009 and have tons of unknown risks.
We are artificially creating a synthetic fake virus, and have no idea what the immune system reactions could be.
It is the most dangerous and irresponsible example of greed that our capitalist system has ever committed.
People should be prosecuted.
And there is not a single epidemic in progress that has ever been stopped by vaccination.
Vaccines are only to prevent the next epidemic.
All epidemics are ended by herd immunity, from recovery immunity and existing inherent immunity.
For example, almost all under 18 are inherently immune to covid-19.
If anyone is to blame for the epidemic being kept around so long it could become endemic, it is those who pushed for "flattening the curve".
Accelerating the epidemic last year would have ended it in a month, with the least number of deaths.
Wrong. Development and clinical testing are two different things. The poster i was responding to said vaccines go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" which is simply not true. Polio clinical trials lasted one year and deemed safe and was produced for widespread usage thereafter.
Wrong. Children account for 22% of all new cases. That's not what i call "inherently immune to covid." Children can be infected and they can spread the virus. Hospitalization however is very small, for now, but with delta and every new variant to follow things can change quickly, which is why everyone needs to take the safe moderna and pfizer vaccines asap.
Rigby is correct. Children do not need this experimental injection. They already have immunity and don't need an untested synthetic injection.
Didn't i just get done stating that 22% of all new covid cases are from children and you're still talking about covid immunity in children LMAO
Learn what terms you use mean.
Immunity does not mean you don't get infected.
It just means your immune system deals with it efficiently.
That reduces spread, but does not eliminate it.
Children ARE inherently immune according to all studies.
We do not know if there will be long term sides, or a bad reaction to new viruses, or if every person vaccinated grows a third arm.Even if thousands who have been vaccinated are in the hospital which is very doubtful since virtually all cases in the hospital today have not been fully vaccinated. Since the number of doses given have exceed 330 million, the effectiveness of the vaccines at keeping corvid cases out of the hospital are exceeding initial claims for all 3 vaccines. The mRNA vaccines are proving to be the safest and most effective of any vaccine approved by the FDA. Over 6 the months following the beginning of public vaccinations, deaths, hospitalizations, and new cases of covid have fallen over 90% (new cases down 96%. daily deaths down 94%, hospitalizations down 93%.)
Why? It's not effective. Thousands that have been vaccinated are now being hospitalized. I'm flummoxed as I listen to the masses just swallow the propaganda, censorship, and lies from the CDC, media, mainstream news. It's utterly astounding.
"Fully vaccinated against Covid-19? Attending an outdoor wedding? Absolutely nothing to worry about, right?
That would be wrong, wrong as a bathroom gong."
Outdoor Wedding: 6 Fully Vaccinated Infected With Covid-19 Delta Variant
One attendee died. Another was hospitalized. While the Covid-19 vaccines do offer good protection, protection is not 100%.
Virtually all hospitalized Covid patients have one thing in common: They're unvaccinated
"I haven't had anyone that's been fully vaccinated become critically ill," one doctor said.United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Hundreds of thousands have had serious injuries. Tens of thousands have died from the injection......through 6 months. We have no idea of the effects of this injection when a vaccinated person encounters a wild virus. We don't know yet.
We have only the history of vaccines, viruses, and the research of thousands of scientist over decades to go by. This
history tells us that severe side effects are extremely rare, and if they do occur, they usually happen within the first two months. We also have the work of thousands of scientist that confirm this. Then we have the simple fact that these vaccines do their work and are gone from the body within about 7 days.
Yes, we could have terrible reactions in the future, a third arm may appear in those vaccinated or a giant asteroid could collide with the earth but the far more likely outcome of not using vaccines would be tens of million of needlessly lost lives.
We have a history of vaccines that have gone through rigorous clinical studies that take anywhere from 5-12 years before they are brought to market. This mRNA sailed through in 3 months. That should set off some red flags, especially in light of the thousands of deaths now along with hundreds of thousands of debilitating injuries. I'll dismiss your third arm and asteroids since those aren't relevant to the topic and have nothing to do with these dangerous injections. We will know more in 5 years. Hopefully, it won't be too late.
The Polio vaccine went through a year of clinical trials before it was deemed safe and ready for use. Vaccines do not go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" even back then. What sometimes happens with some vaccines is that it may take years to weaken the virus in order for it to be used safely in humans. Thankfully human advancement in science and medicine has allowed us to develop vaccines much faster without this process. Even the last flu vaccine, which was not MRNA was tested and rolled out within a few months. Surely you realize we are no longer living in the 1950s anymore and using 1950s technology.
In 5 years it will be too late, all the anti vaxxers around the globe will have made this virus permanent, requiring boosters for every new variant that pop up. One probably more deadlier than the next. All the while millions will die along the way.
Wrong.
The Salk vaccine was started in 1948 and was not available to the public until 1957.
No vaccine before was ever considered save in less than 6 years.
It has neve taken years to weaken a virus, and generally they try to totally kill the virus completely.
No flu vaccine has ever been produced in less than 5 years.
That is why they never work well.
The virus they used to produce the vaccine is never the same one that is making the rounds that winter.
The mRNA vaccines have only been around since 2009 and have tons of unknown risks.
We are artificially creating a synthetic fake virus, and have no idea what the immune system reactions could be.
It is the most dangerous and irresponsible example of greed that our capitalist system has ever committed.
People should be prosecuted.
And there is not a single epidemic in progress that has ever been stopped by vaccination.
Vaccines are only to prevent the next epidemic.
All epidemics are ended by herd immunity, from recovery immunity and existing inherent immunity.
For example, almost all under 18 are inherently immune to covid-19.
If anyone is to blame for the epidemic being kept around so long it could become endemic, it is those who pushed for "flattening the curve".
Accelerating the epidemic last year would have ended it in a month, with the least number of deaths.
Wrong. Development and clinical testing are two different things. The poster i was responding to said vaccines go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" which is simply not true. Polio clinical trials lasted one year and deemed safe and was produced for widespread usage thereafter.
Wrong. Children account for 22% of all new cases. That's not what i call "inherently immune to covid." Children can be infected and they can spread the virus. Hospitalization however is very small, for now, but with delta and every new variant to follow things can change quickly, which is why everyone needs to take the safe moderna and pfizer vaccines asap.
It is deceptive to imply testing of a year is sufficient.
The years of clinical testing is to widen the testing to ensure there is few serious side effects over a large range of different subjects.
That normally comes AFTER years of lab testing on smaller control groups, to ensure it not absolutely harmful and instead is proven to be beneficial. Total testing of lab and clinical typically is several years, not the 3 months they did for covid-19 vaccines. Which is doubly wrong since covid-19 mRNA vaccines by far, vastly more dangerous.
The number of new cases and whether they are children is not relevant.
The point is only who is dying, and it is NOT children.
So then yes, children are essentially immune inherently.
Sure children can be infected and slightly spread the virus, but so can the vaccinated.
Variants typically are LESS lethal, not more.
And Moderna vaccine is not at all safe.
I recently got the 2nd Moderna shot and it was the single worst illness of my life.
Thought I was going to die, and lasted over 3 weeks.
I still feel weak, headaches, foggy, etc.
Likely we should never have waited for the vaccines, and gotten rid of it correctly in the first month.
Right. And the US tally is rising. The key here is the mathematics involved. Children in schools in the UK didn't get affected much, but there wasn't as much virus around then. Right now in the US, we have more virus and more opportunities for it to spread among kids. So more will get infected and more will get sick. And scientists worry how many because they still have not really pegged the R0 (subscript 0) for this exact situation. They don't know what kind of exponential growth we could face in schools this fall.We do not know if there will be long term sides, or a bad reaction to new viruses, or if every person vaccinated grows a third arm.Even if thousands who have been vaccinated are in the hospital which is very doubtful since virtually all cases in the hospital today have not been fully vaccinated. Since the number of doses given have exceed 330 million, the effectiveness of the vaccines at keeping corvid cases out of the hospital are exceeding initial claims for all 3 vaccines. The mRNA vaccines are proving to be the safest and most effective of any vaccine approved by the FDA. Over 6 the months following the beginning of public vaccinations, deaths, hospitalizations, and new cases of covid have fallen over 90% (new cases down 96%. daily deaths down 94%, hospitalizations down 93%.)
Why? It's not effective. Thousands that have been vaccinated are now being hospitalized. I'm flummoxed as I listen to the masses just swallow the propaganda, censorship, and lies from the CDC, media, mainstream news. It's utterly astounding.
"Fully vaccinated against Covid-19? Attending an outdoor wedding? Absolutely nothing to worry about, right?
That would be wrong, wrong as a bathroom gong."
Outdoor Wedding: 6 Fully Vaccinated Infected With Covid-19 Delta Variant
One attendee died. Another was hospitalized. While the Covid-19 vaccines do offer good protection, protection is not 100%.
Virtually all hospitalized Covid patients have one thing in common: They're unvaccinated
"I haven't had anyone that's been fully vaccinated become critically ill," one doctor said.United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Hundreds of thousands have had serious injuries. Tens of thousands have died from the injection......through 6 months. We have no idea of the effects of this injection when a vaccinated person encounters a wild virus. We don't know yet.
We have only the history of vaccines, viruses, and the research of thousands of scientist over decades to go by. This
history tells us that severe side effects are extremely rare, and if they do occur, they usually happen within the first two months. We also have the work of thousands of scientist that confirm this. Then we have the simple fact that these vaccines do their work and are gone from the body within about 7 days.
Yes, we could have terrible reactions in the future, a third arm may appear in those vaccinated or a giant asteroid could collide with the earth but the far more likely outcome of not using vaccines would be tens of million of needlessly lost lives.
We have a history of vaccines that have gone through rigorous clinical studies that take anywhere from 5-12 years before they are brought to market. This mRNA sailed through in 3 months. That should set off some red flags, especially in light of the thousands of deaths now along with hundreds of thousands of debilitating injuries. I'll dismiss your third arm and asteroids since those aren't relevant to the topic and have nothing to do with these dangerous injections. We will know more in 5 years. Hopefully, it won't be too late.
The Polio vaccine went through a year of clinical trials before it was deemed safe and ready for use. Vaccines do not go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" even back then. What sometimes happens with some vaccines is that it may take years to weaken the virus in order for it to be used safely in humans. Thankfully human advancement in science and medicine has allowed us to develop vaccines much faster without this process. Even the last flu vaccine, which was not MRNA was tested and rolled out within a few months. Surely you realize we are no longer living in the 1950s anymore and using 1950s technology.
In 5 years it will be too late, all the anti vaxxers around the globe will have made this virus permanent, requiring boosters for every new variant that pop up. One probably more deadlier than the next. All the while millions will die along the way.
Wrong.
The Salk vaccine was started in 1948 and was not available to the public until 1957.
No vaccine before was ever considered save in less than 6 years.
It has neve taken years to weaken a virus, and generally they try to totally kill the virus completely.
No flu vaccine has ever been produced in less than 5 years.
That is why they never work well.
The virus they used to produce the vaccine is never the same one that is making the rounds that winter.
The mRNA vaccines have only been around since 2009 and have tons of unknown risks.
We are artificially creating a synthetic fake virus, and have no idea what the immune system reactions could be.
It is the most dangerous and irresponsible example of greed that our capitalist system has ever committed.
People should be prosecuted.
And there is not a single epidemic in progress that has ever been stopped by vaccination.
Vaccines are only to prevent the next epidemic.
All epidemics are ended by herd immunity, from recovery immunity and existing inherent immunity.
For example, almost all under 18 are inherently immune to covid-19.
If anyone is to blame for the epidemic being kept around so long it could become endemic, it is those who pushed for "flattening the curve".
Accelerating the epidemic last year would have ended it in a month, with the least number of deaths.
Wrong. Development and clinical testing are two different things. The poster i was responding to said vaccines go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" which is simply not true. Polio clinical trials lasted one year and deemed safe and was produced for widespread usage thereafter.
Wrong. Children account for 22% of all new cases. That's not what i call "inherently immune to covid." Children can be infected and they can spread the virus. Hospitalization however is very small, for now, but with delta and every new variant to follow things can change quickly, which is why everyone needs to take the safe moderna and pfizer vaccines asap.
Rigby is correct. Children do not need this experimental injection. They already have immunity and don't need an untested synthetic injection.
Didn't i just get done stating that 22% of all new covid cases are from children and you're still talking about covid immunity in children LMAO
Learn what terms you use mean.
Immunity does not mean you don't get infected.
It just means your immune system deals with it efficiently.
That reduces spread, but does not eliminate it.
Children ARE inherently immune according to all studies.
Better tell all those darn kids in the ICU for covid that they're immune! lol. We've had over 13,000 hospitalizations of children ages 12-17, to date, and that number will only go up with delta hanging around. We know this because 22% of alll new covid cases are coming from children, whereas it used to be just 3% overall.
Being immune means you don't get infected. Children get infected and carry the virus, it's just that their bodies respond differently than adults.
We do not know if there will be long term sides, or a bad reaction to new viruses, or if every person vaccinated grows a third arm.Even if thousands who have been vaccinated are in the hospital which is very doubtful since virtually all cases in the hospital today have not been fully vaccinated. Since the number of doses given have exceed 330 million, the effectiveness of the vaccines at keeping corvid cases out of the hospital are exceeding initial claims for all 3 vaccines. The mRNA vaccines are proving to be the safest and most effective of any vaccine approved by the FDA. Over 6 the months following the beginning of public vaccinations, deaths, hospitalizations, and new cases of covid have fallen over 90% (new cases down 96%. daily deaths down 94%, hospitalizations down 93%.)
Why? It's not effective. Thousands that have been vaccinated are now being hospitalized. I'm flummoxed as I listen to the masses just swallow the propaganda, censorship, and lies from the CDC, media, mainstream news. It's utterly astounding.
"Fully vaccinated against Covid-19? Attending an outdoor wedding? Absolutely nothing to worry about, right?
That would be wrong, wrong as a bathroom gong."
Outdoor Wedding: 6 Fully Vaccinated Infected With Covid-19 Delta Variant
One attendee died. Another was hospitalized. While the Covid-19 vaccines do offer good protection, protection is not 100%.
Virtually all hospitalized Covid patients have one thing in common: They're unvaccinated
"I haven't had anyone that's been fully vaccinated become critically ill," one doctor said.United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Hundreds of thousands have had serious injuries. Tens of thousands have died from the injection......through 6 months. We have no idea of the effects of this injection when a vaccinated person encounters a wild virus. We don't know yet.
We have only the history of vaccines, viruses, and the research of thousands of scientist over decades to go by. This
history tells us that severe side effects are extremely rare, and if they do occur, they usually happen within the first two months. We also have the work of thousands of scientist that confirm this. Then we have the simple fact that these vaccines do their work and are gone from the body within about 7 days.
Yes, we could have terrible reactions in the future, a third arm may appear in those vaccinated or a giant asteroid could collide with the earth but the far more likely outcome of not using vaccines would be tens of million of needlessly lost lives.
We have a history of vaccines that have gone through rigorous clinical studies that take anywhere from 5-12 years before they are brought to market. This mRNA sailed through in 3 months. That should set off some red flags, especially in light of the thousands of deaths now along with hundreds of thousands of debilitating injuries. I'll dismiss your third arm and asteroids since those aren't relevant to the topic and have nothing to do with these dangerous injections. We will know more in 5 years. Hopefully, it won't be too late.
The Polio vaccine went through a year of clinical trials before it was deemed safe and ready for use. Vaccines do not go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" even back then. What sometimes happens with some vaccines is that it may take years to weaken the virus in order for it to be used safely in humans. Thankfully human advancement in science and medicine has allowed us to develop vaccines much faster without this process. Even the last flu vaccine, which was not MRNA was tested and rolled out within a few months. Surely you realize we are no longer living in the 1950s anymore and using 1950s technology.
In 5 years it will be too late, all the anti vaxxers around the globe will have made this virus permanent, requiring boosters for every new variant that pop up. One probably more deadlier than the next. All the while millions will die along the way.
Wrong.
The Salk vaccine was started in 1948 and was not available to the public until 1957.
No vaccine before was ever considered save in less than 6 years.
It has neve taken years to weaken a virus, and generally they try to totally kill the virus completely.
No flu vaccine has ever been produced in less than 5 years.
That is why they never work well.
The virus they used to produce the vaccine is never the same one that is making the rounds that winter.
The mRNA vaccines have only been around since 2009 and have tons of unknown risks.
We are artificially creating a synthetic fake virus, and have no idea what the immune system reactions could be.
It is the most dangerous and irresponsible example of greed that our capitalist system has ever committed.
People should be prosecuted.
And there is not a single epidemic in progress that has ever been stopped by vaccination.
Vaccines are only to prevent the next epidemic.
All epidemics are ended by herd immunity, from recovery immunity and existing inherent immunity.
For example, almost all under 18 are inherently immune to covid-19.
If anyone is to blame for the epidemic being kept around so long it could become endemic, it is those who pushed for "flattening the curve".
Accelerating the epidemic last year would have ended it in a month, with the least number of deaths.
Wrong. Development and clinical testing are two different things. The poster i was responding to said vaccines go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" which is simply not true. Polio clinical trials lasted one year and deemed safe and was produced for widespread usage thereafter.
Wrong. Children account for 22% of all new cases. That's not what i call "inherently immune to covid." Children can be infected and they can spread the virus. Hospitalization however is very small, for now, but with delta and every new variant to follow things can change quickly, which is why everyone needs to take the safe moderna and pfizer vaccines asap.
Rigby is correct. Children do not need this experimental injection. They already have immunity and don't need an untested synthetic injection.
Didn't i just get done stating that 22% of all new covid cases are from children and you're still talking about covid immunity in children LMAO
Learn what terms you use mean.
Immunity does not mean you don't get infected.
It just means your immune system deals with it efficiently.
That reduces spread, but does not eliminate it.
Children ARE inherently immune according to all studies.
Better tell all those darn kids in the ICU for covid that they're immune! lol. We've had over 13,000 hospitalizations of children ages 12-17, to date, and that number will only go up with delta hanging around. We know this because 22% of alll new covid cases are coming from children, whereas it used to be just 3% overall.
Being immune means you don't get infected. Children get infected and carry the virus, it's just that their bodies respond differently than adults.
Rigby, you are always willing to sink lower than everyone, intellectually. I think you do this for attention.
We do not know if there will be long term sides, or a bad reaction to new viruses, or if every person vaccinated grows a third arm.Even if thousands who have been vaccinated are in the hospital which is very doubtful since virtually all cases in the hospital today have not been fully vaccinated. Since the number of doses given have exceed 330 million, the effectiveness of the vaccines at keeping corvid cases out of the hospital are exceeding initial claims for all 3 vaccines. The mRNA vaccines are proving to be the safest and most effective of any vaccine approved by the FDA. Over 6 the months following the beginning of public vaccinations, deaths, hospitalizations, and new cases of covid have fallen over 90% (new cases down 96%. daily deaths down 94%, hospitalizations down 93%.)
Why? It's not effective. Thousands that have been vaccinated are now being hospitalized. I'm flummoxed as I listen to the masses just swallow the propaganda, censorship, and lies from the CDC, media, mainstream news. It's utterly astounding.
"Fully vaccinated against Covid-19? Attending an outdoor wedding? Absolutely nothing to worry about, right?
That would be wrong, wrong as a bathroom gong."
Outdoor Wedding: 6 Fully Vaccinated Infected With Covid-19 Delta Variant
One attendee died. Another was hospitalized. While the Covid-19 vaccines do offer good protection, protection is not 100%.
Virtually all hospitalized Covid patients have one thing in common: They're unvaccinated
"I haven't had anyone that's been fully vaccinated become critically ill," one doctor said.United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Hundreds of thousands have had serious injuries. Tens of thousands have died from the injection......through 6 months. We have no idea of the effects of this injection when a vaccinated person encounters a wild virus. We don't know yet.
We have only the history of vaccines, viruses, and the research of thousands of scientist over decades to go by. This
history tells us that severe side effects are extremely rare, and if they do occur, they usually happen within the first two months. We also have the work of thousands of scientist that confirm this. Then we have the simple fact that these vaccines do their work and are gone from the body within about 7 days.
Yes, we could have terrible reactions in the future, a third arm may appear in those vaccinated or a giant asteroid could collide with the earth but the far more likely outcome of not using vaccines would be tens of million of needlessly lost lives.
We have a history of vaccines that have gone through rigorous clinical studies that take anywhere from 5-12 years before they are brought to market. This mRNA sailed through in 3 months. That should set off some red flags, especially in light of the thousands of deaths now along with hundreds of thousands of debilitating injuries. I'll dismiss your third arm and asteroids since those aren't relevant to the topic and have nothing to do with these dangerous injections. We will know more in 5 years. Hopefully, it won't be too late.
The Polio vaccine went through a year of clinical trials before it was deemed safe and ready for use. Vaccines do not go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" even back then. What sometimes happens with some vaccines is that it may take years to weaken the virus in order for it to be used safely in humans. Thankfully human advancement in science and medicine has allowed us to develop vaccines much faster without this process. Even the last flu vaccine, which was not MRNA was tested and rolled out within a few months. Surely you realize we are no longer living in the 1950s anymore and using 1950s technology.
In 5 years it will be too late, all the anti vaxxers around the globe will have made this virus permanent, requiring boosters for every new variant that pop up. One probably more deadlier than the next. All the while millions will die along the way.
Wrong.
The Salk vaccine was started in 1948 and was not available to the public until 1957.
No vaccine before was ever considered save in less than 6 years.
It has neve taken years to weaken a virus, and generally they try to totally kill the virus completely.
No flu vaccine has ever been produced in less than 5 years.
That is why they never work well.
The virus they used to produce the vaccine is never the same one that is making the rounds that winter.
The mRNA vaccines have only been around since 2009 and have tons of unknown risks.
We are artificially creating a synthetic fake virus, and have no idea what the immune system reactions could be.
It is the most dangerous and irresponsible example of greed that our capitalist system has ever committed.
People should be prosecuted.
And there is not a single epidemic in progress that has ever been stopped by vaccination.
Vaccines are only to prevent the next epidemic.
All epidemics are ended by herd immunity, from recovery immunity and existing inherent immunity.
For example, almost all under 18 are inherently immune to covid-19.
If anyone is to blame for the epidemic being kept around so long it could become endemic, it is those who pushed for "flattening the curve".
Accelerating the epidemic last year would have ended it in a month, with the least number of deaths.
Wrong. Development and clinical testing are two different things. The poster i was responding to said vaccines go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" which is simply not true. Polio clinical trials lasted one year and deemed safe and was produced for widespread usage thereafter.
Wrong. Children account for 22% of all new cases. That's not what i call "inherently immune to covid." Children can be infected and they can spread the virus. Hospitalization however is very small, for now, but with delta and every new variant to follow things can change quickly, which is why everyone needs to take the safe moderna and pfizer vaccines asap.
It is deceptive to imply testing of a year is sufficient.
The years of clinical testing is to widen the testing to ensure there is few serious side effects over a large range of different subjects.
That normally comes AFTER years of lab testing on smaller control groups, to ensure it not absolutely harmful and instead is proven to be beneficial. Total testing of lab and clinical typically is several years, not the 3 months they did for covid-19 vaccines. Which is doubly wrong since covid-19 mRNA vaccines by far, vastly more dangerous.
The number of new cases and whether they are children is not relevant.
The point is only who is dying, and it is NOT children.
So then yes, children are essentially immune inherently.
Sure children can be infected and slightly spread the virus, but so can the vaccinated.
Variants typically are LESS lethal, not more.
And Moderna vaccine is not at all safe.
I recently got the 2nd Moderna shot and it was the single worst illness of my life.
Thought I was going to die, and lasted over 3 weeks.
I still feel weak, headaches, foggy, etc.
Likely we should never have waited for the vaccines, and gotten rid of it correctly in the first month.
Clinical testing lasted one year. How is that deceptive? Those are the facts.
The vaccinated can only spread the virus if it's a breakthrough case, otherwise the risk is about as low as them being infected. Infected children spread covid like any other infected person.
Right. And the US tally is rising. The key here is the mathematics involved. Children in schools in the UK didn't get affected much, but there wasn't as much virus around then. Right now in the US, we have more virus and more opportunities for it to spread among kids. So more will get infected and more will get sick. And scientists worry how many because they still have not really pegged the R0 (subscript 0) for this exact situation. They don't know what kind of exponential growth we could face in schools this fall.We do not know if there will be long term sides, or a bad reaction to new viruses, or if every person vaccinated grows a third arm.Even if thousands who have been vaccinated are in the hospital which is very doubtful since virtually all cases in the hospital today have not been fully vaccinated. Since the number of doses given have exceed 330 million, the effectiveness of the vaccines at keeping corvid cases out of the hospital are exceeding initial claims for all 3 vaccines. The mRNA vaccines are proving to be the safest and most effective of any vaccine approved by the FDA. Over 6 the months following the beginning of public vaccinations, deaths, hospitalizations, and new cases of covid have fallen over 90% (new cases down 96%. daily deaths down 94%, hospitalizations down 93%.)
Why? It's not effective. Thousands that have been vaccinated are now being hospitalized. I'm flummoxed as I listen to the masses just swallow the propaganda, censorship, and lies from the CDC, media, mainstream news. It's utterly astounding.
"Fully vaccinated against Covid-19? Attending an outdoor wedding? Absolutely nothing to worry about, right?
That would be wrong, wrong as a bathroom gong."
Outdoor Wedding: 6 Fully Vaccinated Infected With Covid-19 Delta Variant
One attendee died. Another was hospitalized. While the Covid-19 vaccines do offer good protection, protection is not 100%.
Virtually all hospitalized Covid patients have one thing in common: They're unvaccinated
"I haven't had anyone that's been fully vaccinated become critically ill," one doctor said.United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Hundreds of thousands have had serious injuries. Tens of thousands have died from the injection......through 6 months. We have no idea of the effects of this injection when a vaccinated person encounters a wild virus. We don't know yet.
We have only the history of vaccines, viruses, and the research of thousands of scientist over decades to go by. This
history tells us that severe side effects are extremely rare, and if they do occur, they usually happen within the first two months. We also have the work of thousands of scientist that confirm this. Then we have the simple fact that these vaccines do their work and are gone from the body within about 7 days.
Yes, we could have terrible reactions in the future, a third arm may appear in those vaccinated or a giant asteroid could collide with the earth but the far more likely outcome of not using vaccines would be tens of million of needlessly lost lives.
We have a history of vaccines that have gone through rigorous clinical studies that take anywhere from 5-12 years before they are brought to market. This mRNA sailed through in 3 months. That should set off some red flags, especially in light of the thousands of deaths now along with hundreds of thousands of debilitating injuries. I'll dismiss your third arm and asteroids since those aren't relevant to the topic and have nothing to do with these dangerous injections. We will know more in 5 years. Hopefully, it won't be too late.
The Polio vaccine went through a year of clinical trials before it was deemed safe and ready for use. Vaccines do not go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" even back then. What sometimes happens with some vaccines is that it may take years to weaken the virus in order for it to be used safely in humans. Thankfully human advancement in science and medicine has allowed us to develop vaccines much faster without this process. Even the last flu vaccine, which was not MRNA was tested and rolled out within a few months. Surely you realize we are no longer living in the 1950s anymore and using 1950s technology.
In 5 years it will be too late, all the anti vaxxers around the globe will have made this virus permanent, requiring boosters for every new variant that pop up. One probably more deadlier than the next. All the while millions will die along the way.
Wrong.
The Salk vaccine was started in 1948 and was not available to the public until 1957.
No vaccine before was ever considered save in less than 6 years.
It has neve taken years to weaken a virus, and generally they try to totally kill the virus completely.
No flu vaccine has ever been produced in less than 5 years.
That is why they never work well.
The virus they used to produce the vaccine is never the same one that is making the rounds that winter.
The mRNA vaccines have only been around since 2009 and have tons of unknown risks.
We are artificially creating a synthetic fake virus, and have no idea what the immune system reactions could be.
It is the most dangerous and irresponsible example of greed that our capitalist system has ever committed.
People should be prosecuted.
And there is not a single epidemic in progress that has ever been stopped by vaccination.
Vaccines are only to prevent the next epidemic.
All epidemics are ended by herd immunity, from recovery immunity and existing inherent immunity.
For example, almost all under 18 are inherently immune to covid-19.
If anyone is to blame for the epidemic being kept around so long it could become endemic, it is those who pushed for "flattening the curve".
Accelerating the epidemic last year would have ended it in a month, with the least number of deaths.
Wrong. Development and clinical testing are two different things. The poster i was responding to said vaccines go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" which is simply not true. Polio clinical trials lasted one year and deemed safe and was produced for widespread usage thereafter.
Wrong. Children account for 22% of all new cases. That's not what i call "inherently immune to covid." Children can be infected and they can spread the virus. Hospitalization however is very small, for now, but with delta and every new variant to follow things can change quickly, which is why everyone needs to take the safe moderna and pfizer vaccines asap.
Rigby is correct. Children do not need this experimental injection. They already have immunity and don't need an untested synthetic injection.
Didn't i just get done stating that 22% of all new covid cases are from children and you're still talking about covid immunity in children LMAO
Learn what terms you use mean.
Immunity does not mean you don't get infected.
It just means your immune system deals with it efficiently.
That reduces spread, but does not eliminate it.
Children ARE inherently immune according to all studies.
Better tell all those darn kids in the ICU for covid that they're immune! lol. We've had over 13,000 hospitalizations of children ages 12-17, to date, and that number will only go up with delta hanging around. We know this because 22% of alll new covid cases are coming from children, whereas it used to be just 3% overall.
Being immune means you don't get infected. Children get infected and carry the virus, it's just that their bodies respond differently than adults.
They are starting to sound the alarms. People are going to start to put it together that the worst areas are the least vaccinated areas. Let's hope, anyway.
Florida has all the old people---even the ones from Maine haul ass down here. We also have all the tourists, we didn't do the lock downs, go about our lives, and we have all the foreigners from other countries and other states flooding our borders-------we are far more crowded and more diverse than Maine could ever hope to be..and yet we still quit well protecting our people and keeping our economy going.
We do not know if there will be long term sides, or a bad reaction to new viruses, or if every person vaccinated grows a third arm.Even if thousands who have been vaccinated are in the hospital which is very doubtful since virtually all cases in the hospital today have not been fully vaccinated. Since the number of doses given have exceed 330 million, the effectiveness of the vaccines at keeping corvid cases out of the hospital are exceeding initial claims for all 3 vaccines. The mRNA vaccines are proving to be the safest and most effective of any vaccine approved by the FDA. Over 6 the months following the beginning of public vaccinations, deaths, hospitalizations, and new cases of covid have fallen over 90% (new cases down 96%. daily deaths down 94%, hospitalizations down 93%.)
Why? It's not effective. Thousands that have been vaccinated are now being hospitalized. I'm flummoxed as I listen to the masses just swallow the propaganda, censorship, and lies from the CDC, media, mainstream news. It's utterly astounding.
"Fully vaccinated against Covid-19? Attending an outdoor wedding? Absolutely nothing to worry about, right?
That would be wrong, wrong as a bathroom gong."
Outdoor Wedding: 6 Fully Vaccinated Infected With Covid-19 Delta Variant
One attendee died. Another was hospitalized. While the Covid-19 vaccines do offer good protection, protection is not 100%.
Virtually all hospitalized Covid patients have one thing in common: They're unvaccinated
"I haven't had anyone that's been fully vaccinated become critically ill," one doctor said.United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Hundreds of thousands have had serious injuries. Tens of thousands have died from the injection......through 6 months. We have no idea of the effects of this injection when a vaccinated person encounters a wild virus. We don't know yet.
We have only the history of vaccines, viruses, and the research of thousands of scientist over decades to go by. This
history tells us that severe side effects are extremely rare, and if they do occur, they usually happen within the first two months. We also have the work of thousands of scientist that confirm this. Then we have the simple fact that these vaccines do their work and are gone from the body within about 7 days.
Yes, we could have terrible reactions in the future, a third arm may appear in those vaccinated or a giant asteroid could collide with the earth but the far more likely outcome of not using vaccines would be tens of million of needlessly lost lives.
We have a history of vaccines that have gone through rigorous clinical studies that take anywhere from 5-12 years before they are brought to market. This mRNA sailed through in 3 months. That should set off some red flags, especially in light of the thousands of deaths now along with hundreds of thousands of debilitating injuries. I'll dismiss your third arm and asteroids since those aren't relevant to the topic and have nothing to do with these dangerous injections. We will know more in 5 years. Hopefully, it won't be too late.
The Polio vaccine went through a year of clinical trials before it was deemed safe and ready for use. Vaccines do not go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" even back then. What sometimes happens with some vaccines is that it may take years to weaken the virus in order for it to be used safely in humans. Thankfully human advancement in science and medicine has allowed us to develop vaccines much faster without this process. Even the last flu vaccine, which was not MRNA was tested and rolled out within a few months. Surely you realize we are no longer living in the 1950s anymore and using 1950s technology.
In 5 years it will be too late, all the anti vaxxers around the globe will have made this virus permanent, requiring boosters for every new variant that pop up. One probably more deadlier than the next. All the while millions will die along the way.
Wrong.
The Salk vaccine was started in 1948 and was not available to the public until 1957.
No vaccine before was ever considered save in less than 6 years.
It has neve taken years to weaken a virus, and generally they try to totally kill the virus completely.
No flu vaccine has ever been produced in less than 5 years.
That is why they never work well.
The virus they used to produce the vaccine is never the same one that is making the rounds that winter.
The mRNA vaccines have only been around since 2009 and have tons of unknown risks.
We are artificially creating a synthetic fake virus, and have no idea what the immune system reactions could be.
It is the most dangerous and irresponsible example of greed that our capitalist system has ever committed.
People should be prosecuted.
And there is not a single epidemic in progress that has ever been stopped by vaccination.
Vaccines are only to prevent the next epidemic.
All epidemics are ended by herd immunity, from recovery immunity and existing inherent immunity.
For example, almost all under 18 are inherently immune to covid-19.
If anyone is to blame for the epidemic being kept around so long it could become endemic, it is those who pushed for "flattening the curve".
Accelerating the epidemic last year would have ended it in a month, with the least number of deaths.
Wrong. Development and clinical testing are two different things. The poster i was responding to said vaccines go through 5-12 years of "rigorous clinical studies" which is simply not true. Polio clinical trials lasted one year and deemed safe and was produced for widespread usage thereafter.
Wrong. Children account for 22% of all new cases. That's not what i call "inherently immune to covid." Children can be infected and they can spread the virus. Hospitalization however is very small, for now, but with delta and every new variant to follow things can change quickly, which is why everyone needs to take the safe moderna and pfizer vaccines asap.
It is deceptive to imply testing of a year is sufficient.
The years of clinical testing is to widen the testing to ensure there is few serious side effects over a large range of different subjects.
That normally comes AFTER years of lab testing on smaller control groups, to ensure it not absolutely harmful and instead is proven to be beneficial. Total testing of lab and clinical typically is several years, not the 3 months they did for covid-19 vaccines. Which is doubly wrong since covid-19 mRNA vaccines by far, vastly more dangerous.
The number of new cases and whether they are children is not relevant.
The point is only who is dying, and it is NOT children.
So then yes, children are essentially immune inherently.
Sure children can be infected and slightly spread the virus, but so can the vaccinated.
Variants typically are LESS lethal, not more.
And Moderna vaccine is not at all safe.
I recently got the 2nd Moderna shot and it was the single worst illness of my life.
Thought I was going to die, and lasted over 3 weeks.
I still feel weak, headaches, foggy, etc.
Likely we should never have waited for the vaccines, and gotten rid of it correctly in the first month.
Clinical testing lasted one year. How is that deceptive? Those are the facts.
The vaccinated can only spread the virus if it's a breakthrough case, otherwise the risk is about as low as them being infected. Infected children spread covid like any other infected person.
Totally wrong.
Clinical testing lasts about 1 year, but can not be started until lab testing proves it is reasonably effective and safe fists.
So that has to happen first, causing the combined testing cycle to be over 3 years, and the normal vaccine production time to be more like 6 years.
There is no way these mRNA vaccines are anywhere near to being thoroughly tests.
And you are just wrong about vaccines.
The vaccinated can easily get infected, and although they will spread less, they can still infect others and spread it.
The 90% vaccine efficacy rate is about preventing death, NOT about preventing infection or spread.
And they are finding the vaccines to be more like 60% effective only.
Infected children do NOT spread any more than the vaccinated.
You are totally and completely wrong.
The ability to spread is proportional to the degree of symptoms and death, and children do not experience nearly as high of symptoms.
So the do not die or spread nearly as much as even the vaccinated.
Which is why doctors are recommending to not vaccinate children.
They already are better then vaccinated.
Vaccinating children would increase their death rate and harm, with no gain.
www.cdc.gov
