New info on the Orlando shooters gun, it WAS A FULL MILITARY AUTO

Well, things sure seemed to work out for this administration didn't it? At least for the narrative they obviously want to push.

Just saying.

On the FBI watch list, a coworker to repeatedly warned about him and was a former law enforcement, texts back forth with a wife about the gun, and gun store owner who also sent out warnings?

We the people still have not heard the 911 call, for some reason. The FBI and DHS both told be politically correct AFTER the shootings. More information somehow brought out by the media in less than 3 days about the gun approval and the FBI had been watching for years?

Huh.


Funny how things worked out for this administration which has about a half a year left.

Huh...

Funny how things worked out.

We the people still have not heard the 911 call, for some reason. The FBI and DHS both told be politically correct AFTER the shootings. More information somehow brought out by the media in less than 3 days about the gun approval and the FBI had been watching for years?

Because the 9-1-1 tapes can be used as evidence against the wife, whom I hope will receive the death penalty.
 
Again, the article says the gun was military spec, and semi auto. These can not both be true, what is true, is that the fBI has not given gun details as of yet.....
Again the gun used was not an AR-15, why do tyou persist in this error

It doesnt matter what type of rifle or pistol.
Any derivative of a military weapon can be milspec.
I'm beginning to wonder if you're desperately trying to save face.....

Yes, Assman just keep digging a deeper hole.

Yea 50 de
yeah...read the article...it was not a fully automatic rifle...please read more closely.......

This article indicates that at least one version of the gun is full-auto


SIG SAUER developed the MCX rifle for America’s special forces. Their goal: a firearm that’s as quiet as an MP5, as deadly as an AK-47, and more modular than anything ever designed. Originally chambered in 300 AAC Blackout, SIG built the MCX to fill the same need that inspired AAC’s Honey Badger. I’ve been watching the SIG SAUER MCX come together for well over two years, from the first prototypes to the finished product. The military version is a useful firearm; even with a massive silencer attached, shooting in full-auto, the MCX is extremely controllable.
. . . . .

When you run a suppressed rifle the added back pressure from the silencer creates additional force to the bolt carrier, which makes the rifle cycle faster. That’s not good; it can become uncontrollable and cause excessive wear on the operating bits. The MCX has an adjustable gas system that changes the amount of gas being sent to the piston, controlling the cycle rate. The system’s equipped with a gas regulator that the shooter can adjust on the fly.


Again, the OP has confused the military version with the civilian version. Nothing new for gun grabbers.

Nope, the article says that the MCX is a military rifle, that is only available to military and law enforcement.


Oh good God....I give up.
Nope, the article says that the MCX is a military rifle, that is only available to military and law enforcement. Was the article wrong? why is the FBI hiding the answer?


The Great Assault Rifle Propaganda Scam!
 
Rifle Used in Orlando Shooting Was Designed for Military Use The gun was a Sig Sauer MCX, a new model built from the ground for FULL AUTO MILITARY USE. So every poster here claiming that the gun was a semi auto AR-15 is an uninformed fool.

This is new info that was previously not available, so now we need to find out how this gun was acquired, and if he bought it legally, why did the FBI allow this. The gun came with 30 round clips, these guns are banned to all but the military or law enforcement or terrorist in the USA. So perhaps he was given his gun by ISIS, we just do not know yet.

Somebody really screwed up here........................

A if you think this is funny, u r really sick

You lying dumbass. Why do you post such blatant lies? Are you fucking sick - or just really stupid?
If the weapon, that was not an AR-15 and was a Sig MCX was not a full auto, then it was not a military spec gun, was it?

Until the FBI tells us better, we really do not know exactly what gun he had or where he got it, do we?

Again all military spec guns are full auto............so if it was a military spec gun, it was a full auto, if it was a semi auto, it was not a military spec gun.

Why is the FBI keeping this a secret? allowing fools here to say the gun was actually an AR-15?
I'm pretty sure they've been telling us since day #2 that he purchased the gun legally, 5 days before the shooting. They have been reporting that it was a Sig Sauer MCX since shortly after that. It was modified for civilian use, although the wording in the article makes that as fuzzy as possible. The AR-15 is the civilian version of the M-16. That's what gun manufacturers do, so they can make as much money as possible on a better killing machine.


Lady, one thing humans have perfected, is the art of killing. Just look at the entire generation of babies that the butchers in abortion clinics have killed since 1973. Can't get much better than that; now can you? :)
ain't goin' there Good try at deflection, though
 
Yes, Assman just keep digging a deeper hole.

Again, the OP has confused the military version with the civilian version. Nothing new for gun grabbers.

Nope, the article says that the MCX is a military rifle, that is only available to military and law enforcement.

You're first mistake was putting your trust in a liberal article....your second is not doing a search to find out if he is indeed right...which he's not.
And third....get on the internet,do a search for MCX for sale....
SIG SAUER MCX 5.56 16" FOLDING STOCK : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com

Research rest with the FBI detailing the information of the attack, which has not happened as of yet

What exactly does that have to do with milspec?

Milspec guns are available to military and law enforcement, the article clearly says this is the situation of this gun. So are there two versions, or is there one. That said a civilian version of this gun can not be mil spec, or even be converted to mil spec by any means, so their is an error, probably by the manufacturer lying to customers of the civilian version. Again if you know the law, any military gun or gun that can be converted to mil spec by any means is not consumer legal for sale. The military spec in question being the firing mode

You apparently have no idea what milspec means.
 
Yes, Assman just keep digging a deeper hole.

Again, the OP has confused the military version with the civilian version. Nothing new for gun grabbers.

Nope, the article says that the MCX is a military rifle, that is only available to military and law enforcement.

You're first mistake was putting your trust in a liberal article....your second is not doing a search to find out if he is indeed right...which he's not.
And third....get on the internet,do a search for MCX for sale....
SIG SAUER MCX 5.56 16" FOLDING STOCK : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com

Research rest with the FBI detailing the information of the attack, which has not happened as of yet

What exactly does that have to do with milspec?

Milspec guns are available to military and law enforcement, the article clearly says this is the situation of this gun. So are there two versions, or is there one. That said a civilian version of this gun can not be mil spec, or even be converted to mil spec by any means, so their is an error, probably by the manufacturer lying to customers of the civilian version. Again if you know the law, any military gun or gun that can be converted to mil spec by any means is not consumer legal for sale. The military spec in question being the firing mode



Why are you "concerned" about the weapons used against civilians in Orlando but not with those used by the US armed forces against civilians in Syria, Iraq and AfPak?


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It doesnt matter what type of rifle or pistol.
Any derivative of a military weapon can be milspec.
I'm beginning to wonder if you're desperately trying to save face.....

He (or she) got caught on Moon Bat stupidity and now is trying to cover up.
 
Well, things sure seemed to work out for this administration didn't it? At least for the narrative they obviously want to push.

Just saying.

On the FBI watch list, a coworker to repeatedly warned about him and was a former law enforcement, texts back forth with a wife about the gun, and gun store owner who also sent out warnings?

We the people still have not heard the 911 call, for some reason. The FBI and DHS both told be politically correct AFTER the shootings. More information somehow brought out by the media in less than 3 days about the gun approval and the FBI had been watching for years?

Huh.


Funny how things worked out for this administration which has about a half a year left.

Huh...

Funny how things worked out.

We the people still have not heard the 911 call, for some reason. The FBI and DHS both told be politically correct AFTER the shootings. More information somehow brought out by the media in less than 3 days about the gun approval and the FBI had been watching for years?

Because the 9-1-1 tapes can be used as evidence against the wife, whom I hope will receive the death penalty.
Sure if she isn't in Pakistan and a hero bye now....................
 
Nope, the article says that the MCX is a military rifle, that is only available to military and law enforcement.

You're first mistake was putting your trust in a liberal article....your second is not doing a search to find out if he is indeed right...which he's not.
And third....get on the internet,do a search for MCX for sale....
SIG SAUER MCX 5.56 16" FOLDING STOCK : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com

Research rest with the FBI detailing the information of the attack, which has not happened as of yet

What exactly does that have to do with milspec?

Milspec guns are available to military and law enforcement, the article clearly says this is the situation of this gun. So are there two versions, or is there one. That said a civilian version of this gun can not be mil spec, or even be converted to mil spec by any means, so their is an error, probably by the manufacturer lying to customers of the civilian version. Again if you know the law, any military gun or gun that can be converted to mil spec by any means is not consumer legal for sale. The military spec in question being the firing mode

You apparently have no idea what milspec means.
Mil spec as it applies to an assault rifle pertains to the firing system. The civilian version has to be so different that it can not be converted to the mil spec standard used by law enforcement.

The mil spec for water filtration is not really applicable, is it.
 
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Indeed. Full Auto - or the "fun" switch as us 11Bs called it were good for keeping Charlie's heads down while we moved up. Other than that, they are pretty useless and, for civilians, too damned expensive to shoot....

Full auto in a small arm like the M-4 is useful for suppression and maybe intimidation and that is about it. Of course you can only fire about three mags on F-A before the barrel gets almost too hot to use.

In Vietnam we used the F-A for "spray and pray" because most of the time we never saw who we were shooting at. Even the gooks didn't use their AKs on F-A all that much.

F-A fire (3 shot burst) is not even military doctrine anymore for the M-4. My son was a Cav Scout with two combat deployments. In training and in combat he never fired his M-4 on anything other semi. The only time he shot F-A (other than the SAWs, Ma Duce and other squad machine guns) was when he came home on leave and we took my M-16 out to the range.
 
You're first mistake was putting your trust in a liberal article....your second is not doing a search to find out if he is indeed right...which he's not.
And third....get on the internet,do a search for MCX for sale....
SIG SAUER MCX 5.56 16" FOLDING STOCK : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com

Research rest with the FBI detailing the information of the attack, which has not happened as of yet

What exactly does that have to do with milspec?

Milspec guns are available to military and law enforcement, the article clearly says this is the situation of this gun. So are there two versions, or is there one. That said a civilian version of this gun can not be mil spec, or even be converted to mil spec by any means, so their is an error, probably by the manufacturer lying to customers of the civilian version. Again if you know the law, any military gun or gun that can be converted to mil spec by any means is not consumer legal for sale. The military spec in question being the firing mode

You apparently have no idea what milspec means.
Mil spec as it applies to an assault rifle pertains to the firing system. The civilian version has to be so different that it can not be converted to the mil spec standard used by law enforcement.

The mil spec for water filtration is not really applicable, is it.

You should really stop...
I've explained what milspec means,i've shown you video of what milspec means.
Just stop dude.
 
Rifle Used in Orlando Shooting Was Designed for Military Use The gun was a Sig Sauer MCX, a new model built from the ground for FULL AUTO MILITARY USE. So every poster here claiming that the gun was a semi auto AR-15 is an uninformed fool.

This is new info that was previously not available, so now we need to find out how this gun was acquired, and if he bought it legally, why did the FBI allow this. The gun came with 30 round clips, these guns are banned to all but the military or law enforcement or terrorist in the USA. So perhaps he was given his gun by ISIS, we just do not know yet.

Somebody really screwed up here........................

A if you think this is funny, u r really sick

You lying dumbass. Why do you post such blatant lies? Are you fucking sick - or just really stupid?
If the weapon, that was not an AR-15 and was a Sig MCX was not a full auto, then it was not a military spec gun, was it?

Until the FBI tells us better, we really do not know exactly what gun he had or where he got it, do we?

Again all military spec guns are full auto............so if it was a military spec gun, it was a full auto, if it was a semi auto, it was not a military spec gun.

Why is the FBI keeping this a secret? allowing fools here to say the gun was actually an AR-15?
I'm pretty sure they've been telling us since day #2 that he purchased the gun legally, 5 days before the shooting. They have been reporting that it was a Sig Sauer MCX since shortly after that. It was modified for civilian use, although the wording in the article makes that as fuzzy as possible. The AR-15 is the civilian version of the M-16. That's what gun manufacturers do, so they can make as much money as possible on a better killing machine.


Lady, one thing humans have perfected, is the art of killing. Just look at the entire generation of babies that the butchers in abortion clinics have killed since 1973. Can't get much better than that; now can you? :)
ain't goin' there Good try at deflection, though


Deflection? How the hell do you call the murder of millions of babies - deflection!!!?!?!?

You Goddamned liberals are unbelievable!
 
You're first mistake was putting your trust in a liberal article....your second is not doing a search to find out if he is indeed right...which he's not.
And third....get on the internet,do a search for MCX for sale....
SIG SAUER MCX 5.56 16" FOLDING STOCK : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com

Research rest with the FBI detailing the information of the attack, which has not happened as of yet

What exactly does that have to do with milspec?

Milspec guns are available to military and law enforcement, the article clearly says this is the situation of this gun. So are there two versions, or is there one. That said a civilian version of this gun can not be mil spec, or even be converted to mil spec by any means, so their is an error, probably by the manufacturer lying to customers of the civilian version. Again if you know the law, any military gun or gun that can be converted to mil spec by any means is not consumer legal for sale. The military spec in question being the firing mode

You apparently have no idea what milspec means.
Mil spec as it applies to an assault rifle pertains to the firing system. The civilian version has to be so different that it can not be converted to the mil spec standard used by law enforcement.

The mil spec for water filtration is not really applicable, is it.
There is much more to "mil spec" than just select fire...
 
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Indeed. Full Auto - or the "fun" switch as us 11Bs called it were good for keeping Charlie's heads down while we moved up. Other than that, they are pretty useless and, for civilians, too damned expensive to shoot....

Full auto in a small arm like the M-4 is useful for suppression and maybe intimidation and that is about it. Of course you can only fire about three mags on F-A before the barrel gets almost too hot to use.

In Vietnam we used the F-A for "spray and pray" because most of the time we never saw who we were shooting at. Even the gooks didn't use their AKs on F-A all that much.

F-A fire (3 shot burst) is not even military doctrine anymore for the M-4. My son was a Cav Scout with two combat deployments. In training and in combat he never fired his M-4 on anything other semi. The only time he shot F-A (other than the SAWs, Ma Duce and other squad machine guns) was when he came home on leave and we took my M-16 out to the range.

Well, and as we found out in Viet Nam - full auto meant one thing - bent barrels. Same with the M2. I (literally) saw a bright red flash in front of my eyes when a M2 barrel bit the dust....don't know if it was head spacing or just too damned hot - but it was Danger Close!!
 
Well, things sure seemed to work out for this administration didn't it? At least for the narrative they obviously want to push.

Just saying.

On the FBI watch list, a coworker to repeatedly warned about him and was a former law enforcement, texts back forth with a wife about the gun, and gun store owner who also sent out warnings?

We the people still have not heard the 911 call, for some reason. The FBI and DHS both told be politically correct AFTER the shootings. More information somehow brought out by the media in less than 3 days about the gun approval and the FBI had been watching for years?

Huh.


Funny how things worked out for this administration which has about a half a year left.

Huh...

Funny how things worked out.


And this is what I said from day one. Something here, stinks to high heaven. He was on the terrorist watch list, interviewed three times, surveiled for nearly a year, the suddenly, all was dropped. S it because his old man was some kind of afghani big shot? Was it because he worked for one of the largest private armies in the US?

I don't know, but it would suggest that the FBI and the administration are a tad complicit.
Like most of our other laws, one cannot be arrested until they have committed an illegal act. No one in the FBI wanted this to happen. They gave up because he hadn't done anything illegal and did not share an actual "plan." I think we should double the FBI's personnel so they can give more attention to people like this who pop red flags over and over, but we get what we pay for. It is sick to say the FBI or the administration was complicit in this.


Something we agree on.......good job.

You know what we should have...a terrorist notification list....

This is how it would work.....

The fbi puts guys like this on a watch list.......then, if he actually submits a background check for a gun purchase...the Feds get notified immediately, and they then dispatch agents to the store, and to the guys home....

We need a budget that would allow this.....
 
Well, things sure seemed to work out for this administration didn't it? At least for the narrative they obviously want to push.

Just saying.

On the FBI watch list, a coworker to repeatedly warned about him and was a former law enforcement, texts back forth with a wife about the gun, and gun store owner who also sent out warnings?

We the people still have not heard the 911 call, for some reason. The FBI and DHS both told be politically correct AFTER the shootings. More information somehow brought out by the media in less than 3 days about the gun approval and the FBI had been watching for years?

Huh.


Funny how things worked out for this administration which has about a half a year left.

Huh...

Funny how things worked out.

We the people still have not heard the 911 call, for some reason. The FBI and DHS both told be politically correct AFTER the shootings. More information somehow brought out by the media in less than 3 days about the gun approval and the FBI had been watching for years?

Because the 9-1-1 tapes can be used as evidence against the wife, whom I hope will receive the death penalty.
Have THEY caught her? How did she get away? Not on the watch list at all?

Huh....

We seem to know she was involved based on what the press has revealed, but you feel the reason why we have not heard the actual 911 call has something to do with THEM not wanting us to know how THEIR investigation is going?

Huh.

Meanwhile, we still have no idea where she is. Uhhhh, how did she get away?

Huh..
 
Rifle Used in Orlando Shooting Was Designed for Military Use The gun was a Sig Sauer MCX, a new model built from the ground for FULL AUTO MILITARY USE. So every poster here claiming that the gun was a semi auto AR-15 is an uninformed fool.

This is new info that was previously not available, so now we need to find out how this gun was acquired, and if he bought it legally, why did the FBI allow this. The gun came with 30 round clips, these guns are banned to all but the military or law enforcement or terrorist in the USA. So perhaps he was given his gun by ISIS, we just do not know yet.

Somebody really screwed up here........................

A if you think this is funny, u r really sick

You lying dumbass. Why do you post such blatant lies? Are you fucking sick - or just really stupid?
Rifle Used in Orlando Shooting Was Designed for Military Use

Can you read?

Yes, I can read. Military use does NOT inherently mean full auto.


Actually, (as usual) you are wrong. MIlitary contracts from 1960 on have had a standard requirement that ALL rifles, or shoulder fired weapons, with the exception of Sniper Rifles (and these days, most fire semi auto) be equipped with a select fire capability, from Semi-Auto to Full Auto.

MIl Spec refers to the BCG (Bolt Carrier Group) the sighting systems, the stock, the length of the barrel, the twists in the barrel and the magazine size.

Civilians are allowed to own "MIL-SPEC" weapons in everything EXCEPT the ability to select fire. ALL Civilian MIL SPEC Must be semi-automatic and MUST NOT have a select fire switch.

Whew! Hope this clears the whole MCX thing up.


A30.06 would technically be mil spec because the military uses them...right...even though it is a bolt action rifle.......and even pump action shot guns would qualify of the definition is just something the military can and does use...right?
 
Research rest with the FBI detailing the information of the attack, which has not happened as of yet

What exactly does that have to do with milspec?

Milspec guns are available to military and law enforcement, the article clearly says this is the situation of this gun. So are there two versions, or is there one. That said a civilian version of this gun can not be mil spec, or even be converted to mil spec by any means, so their is an error, probably by the manufacturer lying to customers of the civilian version. Again if you know the law, any military gun or gun that can be converted to mil spec by any means is not consumer legal for sale. The military spec in question being the firing mode

You apparently have no idea what milspec means.
Mil spec as it applies to an assault rifle pertains to the firing system. The civilian version has to be so different that it can not be converted to the mil spec standard used by law enforcement.

The mil spec for water filtration is not really applicable, is it.

You should really stop...
I've explained what milspec means,i've shown you video of what milspec means.
Just stop dude.
Mil-spec pertains to the firing mechanism in this instance. Not backpack dryness.

yawn
 
Rifle Used in Orlando Shooting Was Designed for Military Use The gun was a Sig Sauer MCX, a new model built from the ground for FULL AUTO MILITARY USE. So every poster here claiming that the gun was a semi auto AR-15 is an uninformed fool.

This is new info that was previously not available, so now we need to find out how this gun was acquired, and if he bought it legally, why did the FBI allow this. The gun came with 30 round clips, these guns are banned to all but the military or law enforcement or terrorist in the USA. So perhaps he was given his gun by ISIS, we just do not know yet.

Somebody really screwed up here........................

A if you think this is funny, u r really sick

You lying dumbass. Why do you post such blatant lies? Are you fucking sick - or just really stupid?
If the weapon, that was not an AR-15 and was a Sig MCX was not a full auto, then it was not a military spec gun, was it?

Until the FBI tells us better, we really do not know exactly what gun he had or where he got it, do we?

Again all military spec guns are full auto............so if it was a military spec gun, it was a full auto, if it was a semi auto, it was not a military spec gun.

Why is the FBI keeping this a secret? allowing fools here to say the gun was actually an AR-15?
I'm pretty sure they've been telling us since day #2 that he purchased the gun legally, 5 days before the shooting. They have been reporting that it was a Sig Sauer MCX since shortly after that. It was modified for civilian use, although the wording in the article makes that as fuzzy as possible. The AR-15 is the civilian version of the M-16. That's what gun manufacturers do, so they can make as much money as possible on a better killing machine.


And why is the article as fuzzy as possible?

Welcome to our world...it was a blatant attempt by the writer to imply that this was a military rifle....as opposed to a civilian rifle based on the military rifle.....

Never, ever trust gun grabbers.
 
Research rest with the FBI detailing the information of the attack, which has not happened as of yet

What exactly does that have to do with milspec?

Milspec guns are available to military and law enforcement, the article clearly says this is the situation of this gun. So are there two versions, or is there one. That said a civilian version of this gun can not be mil spec, or even be converted to mil spec by any means, so their is an error, probably by the manufacturer lying to customers of the civilian version. Again if you know the law, any military gun or gun that can be converted to mil spec by any means is not consumer legal for sale. The military spec in question being the firing mode

You apparently have no idea what milspec means.
Mil spec as it applies to an assault rifle pertains to the firing system. The civilian version has to be so different that it can not be converted to the mil spec standard used by law enforcement.

The mil spec for water filtration is not really applicable, is it.
There is much more to "mil spec" than just select fire...

True, but that is all that is pertinant in a mass killing
 

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