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I've been called worse.
How's the patriot act effected you?
it's made banking a real pain in the ass for one thing, but how it affects me really isn't the point.
are you going to tell me now that if i have nothing to hide, i have nothing to worry about?
Yeah, it's also made banking real hard for terrorists, which has been the key to keeping us safe.
The way you phrase the question is clever, but with respect to the legislation, if you are not a terrorist, then you have nothing to worry about.
How has it effected us?
Part of that is we arent allowed to know.
What do you fear?it's made banking a real pain in the ass for one thing, but how it affects me really isn't the point.
are you going to tell me now that if i have nothing to hide, i have nothing to worry about?
Are you a gay anti war closet Muslim that supports Palin while looking at internet porn?
Seriously though how has the patriot act affected your banking? The only noticible affect I saw was when I had transactions over 10k. And even then it really wasn't a big deal. 5 extra minutes of my time more or less.
my banking is none of the govt's business if i don't break any laws.
my life is none of the govt's business if i don't break any laws.
we've gone from innocent until proven guilty to guilty until the govt says otherwise. fuck that.
you might think it's worth it, but i think it sucks.
it's made banking a real pain in the ass for one thing, but how it affects me really isn't the point.
are you going to tell me now that if i have nothing to hide, i have nothing to worry about?
Yeah, it's also made banking real hard for terrorists, which has been the key to keeping us safe.
The way you phrase the question is clever, but with respect to the legislation, if you are not a terrorist, then you have nothing to worry about.
who decides who is a terrorist?
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it's made banking a real pain in the ass for one thing, but how it affects me really isn't the point.
are you going to tell me now that if i have nothing to hide, i have nothing to worry about?
Yeah, it's also made banking real hard for terrorists, which has been the key to keeping us safe.
The way you phrase the question is clever, but with respect to the legislation, if you are not a terrorist, then you have nothing to worry about.
who decides who is a terrorist?
maybe you are willing to put your fate in the hands of those asshats that run DHS, but you can include me out.
What do you fear?
Are you a gay anti war closet Muslim that supports Palin while looking at internet porn?
Seriously though how has the patriot act affected your banking? The only noticible affect I saw was when I had transactions over 10k. And even then it really wasn't a big deal. 5 extra minutes of my time more or less.
my banking is none of the govt's business if i don't break any laws.
my life is none of the govt's business if i don't break any laws.
we've gone from innocent until proven guilty to guilty until the govt says otherwise. fuck that.
you might think it's worth it, but i think it sucks.
You realize that banking transaction were always tracked by the IRS before the patriot act right? For tax purposes. The only difference is now transactions over 10k usually required an id from you and a little paperwork on the banks part.
Now if you got a problem with any of that then your problem predates the patriots act. So let's ask again. How has it affected your life in a negative manner?
Yeah, it's also made banking real hard for terrorists, which has been the key to keeping us safe.
The way you phrase the question is clever, but with respect to the legislation, if you are not a terrorist, then you have nothing to worry about.
who decides who is a terrorist?
maybe you are willing to put your fate in the hands of those asshats that run DHS, but you can include me out.
I put my trust in the Pentagon.
Think about how many radical terrorists want us dead, and then think of how easy it would be to come up with a simple sinister plot. We've been able to prevent that. That has to inspire some confidence.
my banking is none of the govt's business if i don't break any laws.
my life is none of the govt's business if i don't break any laws.
we've gone from innocent until proven guilty to guilty until the govt says otherwise. fuck that.
you might think it's worth it, but i think it sucks.
You realize that banking transaction were always tracked by the IRS before the patriot act right? For tax purposes. The only difference is now transactions over 10k usually required an id from you and a little paperwork on the banks part.
Now if you got a problem with any of that then your problem predates the patriots act. So let's ask again. How has it affected your life in a negative manner?
what part of how it affects my life isn't the point don't you get?
besides all of it?
who decides who is a terrorist?
maybe you are willing to put your fate in the hands of those asshats that run DHS, but you can include me out.
I put my trust in the Pentagon.
Think about how many radical terrorists want us dead, and then think of how easy it would be to come up with a simple sinister plot. We've been able to prevent that. That has to inspire some confidence.
Did i read this right? You put your trust in the Pentagon? Man oh man,some people just can't be helped. I'm not even gonna bother anymore with this one. See ya.
I put my trust in the Pentagon.
Think about how many radical terrorists want us dead, and then think of how easy it would be to come up with a simple sinister plot. We've been able to prevent that. That has to inspire some confidence.
Did i read this right? You put your trust in the Pentagon? Man oh man,some people just can't be helped. I'm not even gonna bother anymore with this one. See ya.
you're a paranoid freak.
Anyone notice the guy insulting everyone and demanding debate is gone now that there actually is debate?
Ironic
Did i read this right? You put your trust in the Pentagon? Man oh man,some people just can't be helped. I'm not even gonna bother anymore with this one. See ya.
you're a paranoid freak.
And you're a Big Government stooge. Might as well be a Democrat. And people wonder why the Republican Party is such a mess.
Anyone notice the guy insulting everyone and demanding debate is gone now that there actually is debate?
Ironic
You realize that banking transaction were always tracked by the IRS before the patriot act right? For tax purposes. The only difference is now transactions over 10k usually required an id from you and a little paperwork on the banks part.
Now if you got a problem with any of that then your problem predates the patriots act. So let's ask again. How has it affected your life in a negative manner?
what part of how it affects my life isn't the point don't you get?
besides all of it?
You listed banking as an issue and I debunked it. The banks and IRS have always tracked funds despite the PA. As far as your assertion that just because it doesn't affect you its bad for "someone" well, ..... That's just assenine.
Freedom isn't free. If we can allow our youth to fight our wars and die for us then by god we can stand in line for an extra ten minutes if for no other reason than to show them we respect their sacrifice.
None of you neocons care that the highest ranking law enforcement officer in the US is Eric fucking Holder with full discretion to use the Patriot Act however he may please?