Next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...

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Hmmmm….maybe freedom has something to do with it as well?
Actually Taiwan would have been a better analogy to Cuba.
Your ass, like Socialism is a deep dark hole where all sorts of objects fall in to and are never to be seen again.

Socialism has been a failure all across the globe, and along with Islam is responsible for the deaths of 270 Million People.
 

Socialism has been a failure all across the globe, and along with Islam is responsible for the deaths of 270 Million People.
Go to Europe and you'll see where it's been ALLOWED to exist without outside interference. And speaking of Islam....the reason Europe has a refugee problem is because of our capitalist wars.
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Ask them how well capitalism was doing in 1929.
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To the extent that capitalism’s problems – inequality, instability (cycles/crises), etc. – stem in part from its production relationships, reforms focused exclusively on regulating or supplanting markets will not succeed in solving them. For example, Keynesian monetary policies (focused on raising or lowering the quantity of money in circulation and, correspondingly, interest rates) do not touch the employer-employee relationship, however much their variations redistribute wealth, regulate markets, or displace markets in favor of state-administered investment decisions. Likewise, Keynesian fiscal policies (raising or lowering taxes and government spending) do not address the employer-employee relationship.

Keynesian policies also never ended the cyclical instability of capitalism. The New Deal and European social democracy left capitalism in place in both state and private units (enterprises) of production notwithstanding their massive reform agendas and programs. They thereby left capitalist employers facing the incentives and receiving the resources (profits) to evade, weaken and eventually dissolve most of those programs.

It is far better not to distribute wealth unequally in the first place than to re-distribute it after to undo the inequality. For example, FDR proposed in 1944 that the government establish a maximum income alongside a minimum wage; that is one among the various ways inequality could be limited and thereby redistribution avoided. Efforts to redistribute encounter evasions, oppositions, and failures that compound the effects of unequal distribution itself. Social peace and cohesion are the victims of redistribution sooner or later. Reforming markets while leaving the relations/organization of capitalist production unchanged is like redistribution. Just as redistribution schemes fail to solve the problems rooted in distribution, market-focused reforms fail to solve the problems rooted in production.

Since 2008, capitalism has showed us all yet again its deep and unsolved problems of cyclical instability, deepening inequality and the injustices they both entail. Their persistence mirrors that of the capitalist organization of production. To successfully confront and solve the problems of economic cycles, income and wealth inequality, and so on, we need to go beyond the capitalist employer-employee system of production. The democratization of enterprises – transitioning from employer-employee hierarchies to worker cooperatives – is a key way available here and now to realize the change we need.

Worker coops democratically decide the distribution of income (wages, bonuses, benefits, profit shares, etc.) among their members. No small group of owners and the boards of directors they choose would, as in capitalist corporations, make such decisions. Thus, for example, it would be far less likely that a few individuals in a worker coop would earn millions while most others could not afford to send children to college. A democratic worker coop decision on the distribution of enterprise income would be far less unequal than what typifies capitalist enterprises. A socialism for the 21st century could and should include the transition from a capitalist to a worker-coop-based economic system as central to its commitments to less inequality and less social conflict over redistribution.

Capitalism Is Not the “Market System”
Yes SOCIALIST suck and ill thank them for it
 
Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom

Hmmmm….maybe freedom has something to do with it as well?
Actually Taiwan would have been a better analogy to Cuba.

Taiwan is way too free to compare to Cuba.
I meant in area.

Who gives a shit about area?
Huge Communist nations sucked and tiny free cities, like Singapore, can be wealthy.
 
private charity only covers multitudes of sins not poverty.
Another meaningless platitude.

And now....DEEP THOUGHTS, by Dan Palos:

"As the light changed from red, to green, to yellow, and back to red again, I sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking and yelling? Sometimes, it seemed that way."

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Our welfare clause is General, not limited to right wing bigotry.
 
Funny how every time American capitalism screws up, it is the corrupt lying give away to the rich GOP in charge. 1929 1989 2008 now? Everywhere else in the world socialism is the same thing as Democratic socialism and not communism at all. GOP dupes what can you say? Brainwashed functional morons, perfect Chumps of the greedy idiot rich... And we fall farther and farther behind the rest of the developed countries who are all socialist, and where every Socialist Party is well regulated capitalist with a good safety net and Democratic always!!! How dumb can you get?
 
we should insist on better market rates.
The national debt which we can never repay ourselves is over $22 trillion now, but there's also been a $20 trillion dollar shift in private wealth from the middle class to the top 1/10th of 1 % over four decades. That money could be gone, but what's worse will be if hyperinflation sets in....nobody knows what will happen .
 
Our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror fit that description.
No, they don't, unless you are arguing that government is controlling the means of production on drugs. Then, yes. I will agree with you on that. It is socialism and it needs to end.

End all of those wars. I am with you on that. No disagreement.

Our welfare clause is General, not limited to right wing bigotry.
More Deep Thoughts, by Dan Palos:
"I bet for an Indian, shooting an old, fat pioneer woman in the back with an arrow, and she fires her shotgun into the ground as she falls over, is like the top thing you can do."


Deep Thoughts: Being an Indian
 
we should insist on better market rates.
The national debt which we can never repay ourselves is over $22 trillion now, but there's also been a $20 trillion dollar shift in private wealth from the middle class to the top 1/10th of 1 % over four decades. That money could be gone, but what's worse will be if hyperinflation sets in....nobody knows what will happen .
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I do know: The Congress will just have someone print some more money.
 
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