No one is going to take your guns

[Uncensored2008]

Sorry Wrong Again this was the line the NRA tried....AND THEY GOT DEPORTED.....You Americans allow such wretches to pedal this bollocks.....BULLSHIT

We on the other hand can spot BULLSHIT ARTISTS a mile away.......You fell into my trap(I knew some idiot would) of spewing the Gun Lobby of America.....discredited crap.

All wrong and a pack of lies......NRA..can never spread their CANCER HERE,they just get the two word response...FCUK OFF

What a brilliant retort. And so well supported.

Please hold your breath while I gather a crowd so we can all be impressed at your prowess...

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm theliq.........

You misspelled "retarded".

No he didn't. In sheep, theliq translates to "retarded." He has to be fluent in sheep, to communicate with the in-laws....

 

[Spoonman]

Well, gee guy, I'm always happy to help out welfare queens like yourself...

even the ones who can't admit it to themselves.

no welfare here you fat lipped ****, i EARNED it UNLIKE you and your liberfool boyfriends ........

are you and pojo in a relationship ? not that there is anything wrong with that

Guy, you didn't create the wealth that you are being paid from.

You are being paid by the current taxpayers as a courtesy for the service you provided.

(Not that I think someone as openly racist as you are would last in the military more than a few years.)

Now, I don't really have a problem with this, but let's call it what it is... a politically popular welfare program.

the difference is he is providing a service for his pay. with welfare, there is no service returned. only a drain on resources.

 

[Uncensored2008]

and this thread simply shows how both sides are simply too stupid to discuss the issue with any truthfulness or insight

Truth is, one side want to strip the other side of civil rights.

Everything else is just smoke.

 

[Uncensored2008]

And you can hold onto that fantasy as long as Scalia isn't taking a dirt nap.

But the minute he does...

Ooops. The Second Amendment is about Militias again, and guess what, we can regulate guns.

I will agree that if Obama gets to appoint one more SCOTUS justice, then Constitutional governance is over. One more Elena Kagan and the Bill of Rights is a dead document. However, I believe that when or if that happens, we will simply fall into civil war. We on a razor's edge as it is.

The SCOTUS might declare the Constitution unconstitutional, but I suspect that the resistance will be more than you dream of.

 

[martybegan]

Guy, why do you always try to change the subject when you are losing an argument.

That can never happen when you're involved.

Frankly, these Palestinian kids are living the NRA Dream, aren't they? Arming themselves against a tyrannical government. How's that working out for them?

Oh, wait. It isn't. The Zionists are still there.

They're living the progressive dream of killing Jews...and of being martyrs, so you can stand on their bodies and preach.

It's a twofer for you.

Not allowing children to legally buy/possess guns is a violation of the 2nd Amendment's ban against 'infringement' isn't it? According to you so-called constitutionalists...

Where's the exception for children in the 2nd Amendment?

Children are the wards of thier parents. If the parents want to permit them access to firearms they may, and they are responsible for anything that has to do with that, due to the children being legally minors.

Once they reach majority, 18 years old, it becomes thier decsion to exercise thier 2nd amendment rights, or not to.

 

[martybegan]

And you can hold onto that fantasy as long as Scalia isn't taking a dirt nap.

But the minute he does...

Ooops. The Second Amendment is about Militias again, and guess what, we can regulate guns.

I will agree that I Obama gets to appoint one more SCOTUS justice, then Constitutional governance is over. One more Elena Kagan and the Bill of Rights is a dead document. However, I believe that when or if that happens, we will simply fall into civil war. We on a razor's edge as it is.

The SCOTUS might declare the Constitution unconstitutional, but I suspect that the resistance will be more than you dream of.

JoeBlow is a huge fan of governmental tyranny, as long as the tyranny is of a flavor he approves of.

 

[Spoonman]

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Again, dippy, the STATES are allowed to call militas, and in those militas the PEOPLE bring thier weapons, weapons which they have a RIGHT to keep and bear, and that RIGHT shall not be infringed.

the PEOPLE is not the state or the government, it is the individual, and the individual mantains the RIGHT to be armed.

And you can hold onto that fantasy as long as Scalia isn't taking a dirt nap.

But the minute he does...

Ooops. The Second Amendment is about Militias again, and guess what, we can regulate guns.

yes joe, self regulated militias. not regulated by the government. the point you liberal idiots keep missing.

the supreme court can rule whatever they want. the bottom line is any politician who votes in a gun ban will end his political career. democrats know if they do more than talk and actually try to enact something they are done. they tested the waters with Sandy Hook and found this out. even a tragedy where kids are killed they couldn't exploit. you claimed 80% of Americans wanted background checks. you lied. and politicians found out that that number wasn't even close ot being true. and one by one they backed away from it.

and what has happened since? well the gun lobby has grown stronger. gun owners, both conservative and liberal have galvanized to protect the 2nd amendment. 20,000,000 new people have applied for gun permits. this isn't more gun fanatics buying more guns. this is new, first time gun owners. mostly made up of women and new age eligible owners. the group democrats claim make up their staunch supporters. well they won't be supporting gun bans joe. your swing vote is swinging, and its swinging away from you. Democrats know pushing for restrictive gun laws is political suicide. thats why its all talk, no action. now obamacare is further undermining them. they have much bigger issues to worry about than guns.

 

[koshergrl]

and this thread simply shows how both sides are simply too stupid to discuss the issue with any truthfulness or insight

Truth is, one side want to strip the other side of civil rights.

Everything else is just smoke.

Not just civil rights...human rights as well.

 

[daveman]

So your goal is to debate facts and figures by screaming "Kellerman isn't true" (stomp, stomp, stomp) and "The Founding Fathers said I can have a gun" like a petulant child who has a toy taken away from him when he misbehaves!

Brilliant!

It is, because those ARE facts.

Unfortunately, the leftist, communist anti-gun loons don't deal with facts, only emotion

-Geaux

I'm not sure if progressivism inhibits higher thinking, or if reason-deficient people are naturally attracted to progressivism.

 

[daveman]

[

Guy, why do you always try to change the subject when you are losing an argument.

That can never happen when you're involved.

Then why do you always go off squealing like little bitch?

I am not responsible for your willful distortion of reality.

If you'll notice, it's not me demanding Americans give up their rights because I'm terrified of a tool.

Frankly, these Palestinian kids are living the NRA Dream, aren't they? Arming themselves against a tyrannical government. How's that working out for them?

Oh, wait. It isn't. The Zionists are still there.

They're living the progressive dream of killing Jews...and of being martyrs, so you can stand on their bodies and preach.

It's a twofer for you.

69% of American Jews voted for Obama. Explain that one. (Pssst... it's because they are about as embarrassed by Zionism as most white folks were embarrased about Apartheid in the 1980's)

Despite his betrayal of Israel, a valuable ally and the freest nation in the Middle East.

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense, does it?

Frankly, I think the whole situation there is tragic. We keep sticking our hands in the hornet's nest and wondering why we get stung.

Yeah, yeah, it's always America's fault, yadda yadda, blah blah blah.

Yawn.

 

[daveman]

So your goal is to debate facts and figures by screaming "Kellerman isn't true" (stomp, stomp, stomp) and "The Founding Fathers said I can have a gun" like a petulant child who has a toy taken away from him when he misbehaves!

Brilliant!

It is, because those ARE facts.

No, Kellerman was so true, the NRA has spend 30 years trying to bury it.

And the Founding Fathers said we can have MILITIAS. The correct answer is "Militias"...

Not that I would take the advice of a 200 year old slave rapist on how to manage a civil society any more than I would take their advice on how to treat strep throat. (Read up about how Geo. Washington died, and you'll get the idea.)

I live in the 21st century... and what you guys propose doesn't work.

You just keep bitterly clinging to Kellerman and your hatred of the Founding Fathers. Chicks dig that.

Well, no one you'd want to spend any time -- or personal space -- with.

They don't shower often.

 

[daveman]

[

Again, dippy, the STATES are allowed to call militas, and in those militas the PEOPLE bring thier weapons, weapons which they have a RIGHT to keep and bear, and that RIGHT shall not be infringed.

the PEOPLE is not the state or the government, it is the individual, and the individual mantains the RIGHT to be armed.

And you can hold onto that fantasy as long as Scalia isn't taking a dirt nap.

But the minute he does...

Ooops. The Second Amendment is about Militias again, and guess what, we can regulate guns.

What's this "we" shit?

You'll be hiding in your basement, sissy boi. Then, when it's all over, you'll get on the internet and brag about how you helped bring it about.

 

[daveman]

Sorry, guy, Kellerman is true, and Tommy Jefferson really did rape the crap out of Sally Hemmings.

Kellerman is a study based on one county in one state decades ago. and you keep bringing it up like a lemming heading over a cliff.

You know what that gets you, jackwad.

It gets me the entertainment of watching you completely lose your shit.

Now, here's the thing. Three ways to approach Kellerman.

1) Wow- that's the truth. We should do something about that.

2) Wait, that's inaccuate, we need to do further studies to find out what the truth is.

3) Holy Shit, they caught us!!!! Quick, let's make damn sure no one ELSE studies this issue, ever. Get the CDC to cut funding to these kinds of studies, stat!

Guess which one you guys went with!

Yes, because anyone else studying it besides the CDC is a violation of the universe's immutable physical laws.

Oh, wait -- no, it's not.

 

[daveman]

Black Conservative Leaders = Chickens for Colonel Sanders

Well, ain't you just a racist son of a bitch.

 

[daveman]

Guy, why do you always try to change the subject when you are losing an argument.

That can never happen when you're involved.

Frankly, these Palestinian kids are living the NRA Dream, aren't they? Arming themselves against a tyrannical government. How's that working out for them?

Oh, wait. It isn't. The Zionists are still there.

They're living the progressive dream of killing Jews...and of being martyrs, so you can stand on their bodies and preach.

It's a twofer for you.

Not allowing children to legally buy/possess guns is a violation of the 2nd Amendment's ban against 'infringement' isn't it? According to you so-called constitutionalists...

Where's the exception for children in the 2nd Amendment?

I feel no obligation to defend a claim I haven't made -- not even if you escalate the foot-stamping and threaten to hold your breath until you turn blue.

Run along now.

 

[RKMBrown]

And the Founding Fathers said we can have MILITIAS. The correct answer is "Militias"...

I live in the 21st century...

Yet no one taught you how to read yet.

Original text:

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added; And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three-fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

Article the first. .... After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one Representative for every 30,000 until the number shall amount to 100, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than 100 Representatives, nor less than one Representative for every 40,000 persons, until the number of Representatives shall amount to 200; after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than 200 Representatives, nor more than one Representative for every 50,000 persons.

Article the second ... No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

Article the third ...... Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Article the fourth..... A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed...

Note the operative clause is the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Why? Because a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state. The militia clause is a prefatory clause that provides a reasonable reason for the operative clause.

 

[eagle1462010]

Today.............Step mom's house broke into by thugs....................

Kicked in the back door.............No BS here. She yelled and screamed called 9/11...........

Luckily they fled as they thought no one was home..................

Door temp fixed................I thought she had a weapon.........She's 83 now..................

This could have been very bad, and I'll put in a door Friday. Temp will hold. She's with us now and NOW OWNS A GUN...........OF HER CHOICE............BOUGHT TODAY.

If they come back they will take a dirt nap. Of course the libs on her don't give a shit that I could have lost her today. She's with us now................

 

[Pogo]

And the Founding Fathers said we can have MILITIAS. The correct answer is "Militias"...

I live in the 21st century...

Yet no one taught you how to read yet.

Original text:

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added; And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three-fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

Article the first. .... After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one Representative for every 30,000 until the number shall amount to 100, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than 100 Representatives, nor less than one Representative for every 40,000 persons, until the number of Representatives shall amount to 200; after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than 200 Representatives, nor more than one Representative for every 50,000 persons.

Article the second ... No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

Article the third ...... Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Article the fourth..... A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed...

Note the operative clause is the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Why? Because a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state. The militia clause is a prefatory clause that provides a reasonable reason for the operative clause.

Good Christ, we're back to "prefatory" again...

It's either prefatory or it's dependent. What you just described is the latter.

 

[koshergrl]

Black Conservative Leaders = Chickens for Colonel Sanders

Well, ain't you just a racist son of a bitch.

Yes indeed he is.

His #1 reason for hysterical support of abortion at any time, for any reason....it keeps the porn and human sex trafficking industries going.

His #2 reason....it kills off black kids and destroys black women.

True story. I've been exposed to this ghoul for years, and that's the long and short of it.