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who is best set to win in 2016? Hillary? Jeb Bush? Palin (hey, I do have a sense of humour!)
Of course you do. Why else would you suggest that 2012 is a lock 9 months early?
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who is best set to win in 2016? Hillary? Jeb Bush? Palin (hey, I do have a sense of humour!)
Whoever it is, the Dems will still run a "Bush's fault" platform
It's sad isn't it?
Bush fucked things up so badly that the impact will still be felt in 2016 and beyond
Whoever it is, the Dems will still run a "Bush's fault" platform
It's sad isn't it?
Bush fucked things up so badly that the impact will still be felt in 2016 and beyond
but the Obama gave YOU hope and change of saving us. Now you all are going to give him a pass until 2016 and beyond..
figures...you've given a pass on everything so FAR...
It's sad isn't it?
Bush fucked things up so badly that the impact will still be felt in 2016 and beyond
but the Obama gave YOU hope and change of saving us. Now you all are going to give him a pass until 2016 and beyond..
figures...you've given a pass on everything so FAR...
I sure have
I have seen what happens when we give Republicans control of our country.
Maybe you all don't mind living with 10% unemployment, 3.50 for a gallon of gas and food prices going through the roof, but I'm sure many more do care...so your Dear Leader might not get the pass you Obama lovers do.
War, trashed economy, torture, rape of the environment, destruction of worker rights
It's sad isn't it?
Bush fucked things up so badly that the impact will still be felt in 2016 and beyond
And the Dems should give thanks every day for Bush. Without him they might have to take some kind of responsibility.
The Dems have taken responsibility....
For stopping a Depression
For ending the Bush wars.
For stopping torture
For providing health insurance to millions of Americans
For killing Osama bin Laden
For saving the Auto industry
For allowing gays to openly serve in the military
And the Dems should give thanks every day for Bush. Without him they might have to take some kind of responsibility.
The Dems have taken responsibility....
For stopping a Depression
For ending the Bush wars.
For stopping torture
For providing health insurance to millions of Americans
For killing Osama bin Laden
For saving the Auto industry
For allowing gays to openly serve in the military
the Bush wars were coming to end by Bush setting the dead line.
your Obama Care is still tied up in courts, so that hasn't happened.
he saved ONE DAMN auto company.
big deal, homosexuals have been serving in the military before.
He got a Terrorist, which is HIS JOB...whoopie
Good pick.Unless there's some big scandal, Andrew Cuomo will run.
Some names I like are Dennis Kucinich, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Alan Grayson, Sherrod Brown, Eliot Spitzer, and Andrew Cuomo fits in there quite nicely. If not in the Presidency they should hold Cabinet level positions. These people have shown themselves to be aggressively progressive and this Nation needs to make a sharp and forceful turn to the left.
Obama has been a far better president than his predecessor but he is not at all what he convinced us he was -- or could be if he chose to. He is far too cautious and clearly more concerned with his own future than with that of the Nation.
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Bush did what he did (tragically), and the next President was going to have to try to clean it up. Regardless of their party affiliation. Can't blame the Democrats for reminding folks who did this; the Republicans would have had to do the same thing. This is a freakin' disaster on multiple freakin' levels.
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And the Dems should give thanks every day for Bush. Without him they might have to take some kind of responsibility.
The Dems have taken responsibility....
For stopping a Depression
For ending the Bush wars.
For stopping torture
For providing health insurance to millions of Americans
For killing Osama bin Laden
For saving the Auto industry
For allowing gays to openly serve in the military
he stopped a depression...HOW?
the Bush wars were coming to end by Bush setting the dead line.
your Obama Care is still tied up in courts, so that hasn't happened.
he saved ONE DAMN auto company.
big deal, homosexuals have been serving in the military before.
He got a Terrorist, which is HIS JOB...whoopie
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Bush did what he did (tragically), and the next President was going to have to try to clean it up. Regardless of their party affiliation. Can't blame the Democrats for reminding folks who did this; the Republicans would have had to do the same thing. This is a freakin' disaster on multiple freakin' levels.
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Yeah. Obama is doing a great job of cleaning up Bush's destruction of terrorism, his dismantling of Ghaddafi's nuclear capability, increased respect for the US in the middle east, dismantling Saddam's regime and stabilizing the country, lower tax rates, etc etc.
The truth is Obama is the biggest fuck up to occupy the Oval Office. Period. Paragraph.
IF there are enough idiots out there to re-elect this ugly man as President, then they deserve everything coming their way.
Unfortunately, the rest of the country will have to suffer for it.
Nope. That title belongs to Carter with Barry a close second.
Ooooh! Talking points! How refreshing.
OOOHHH as much of a talking point as Bush being the worst Prez. How refreshing.
History will tell the tale.
I'd imagine it'll be Bobby Jindal or Marco Rubio. They'll be at just about the right point in their career, if Obama wins, to take on the democratic nominee. The Democrats, again if Obama wins, will be in trouble in 2016 as Hillary and Biden are likely to tear the party in two if Biden decides to run.
If Obama loses, then a lot of guys like Jindal and Rubio are going to find themselves at the end of their careers. There's only so long you can stay out of the public's eye and run.
As for a lock in 2012: At the moment I'd put Obama's chances at a firm 70-30. It's clear that Romney, the only one with the money and organizational skills to take on Obama, is in real danger of losing out to Santorum or Newt. Neither has the organization to take on Obama's machinery. Worse, all three candidates are practically identical to Obama based on voting/governing history on a lot of the hot button issues.
No organization+Inability to paint yourself as not Obama=Obama second term.
Of course Obama can really easily screw this all up, so who knows?
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Bush did what he did (tragically), and the next President was going to have to try to clean it up. Regardless of their party affiliation. Can't blame the Democrats for reminding folks who did this; the Republicans would have had to do the same thing. This is a freakin' disaster on multiple freakin' levels.
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Yeah. Obama is doing a great job of cleaning up Bush's destruction of terrorism, his dismantling of Ghaddafi's nuclear capability, increased respect for the US in the middle east, dismantling Saddam's regime and stabilizing the country, lower tax rates, etc etc.
The truth is Obama is the biggest fuck up to occupy the Oval Office. Period. Paragraph.
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Bush did what he did (tragically), and the next President was going to have to try to clean it up. Regardless of their party affiliation. Can't blame the Democrats for reminding folks who did this; the Republicans would have had to do the same thing. This is a freakin' disaster on multiple freakin' levels.
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Yeah. Obama is doing a great job of cleaning up Bush's destruction of terrorism, his dismantling of Ghaddafi's nuclear capability, increased respect for the US in the middle east, dismantling Saddam's regime and stabilizing the country, lower tax rates, etc etc.
The truth is Obama is the biggest fuck up to occupy the Oval Office. Period. Paragraph.
By all means, we can pretend that Bush did not leave behind a massive, deep, broad and complicated financial disaster and two expensive wars that cost the lives, limbs and minds of thousands of Americans and Middle East innocents, wars that will ulitmately prove to be fruitless when the bad guys take over in each country. We can play pretend on anything.
We can divert away from what Bush left behind and blame Obama for where we are. That's partisan politics, intellectual honesty is always optional.
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