turtledude
Minnow Control Specialist
gee dispirit why don't you tell us what sort of standards are needed to strip someone of their constitutional rights?
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gee dispirit why don't you tell us what sort of standards are needed to strip someone of their constitutional rights?
why do morons ask stupid and dishonest questions and why do gun banning retards want to abrogate the constitutional rights of citizens without due process?Why does the NRA want more nuts to have guns?
So this is what? a turf war for you guys?NRA Wants Mentally Ill To Have Gun Rights
Chief spamalot wants to ban guns. He's still mad over white guys with guns beating up Indians armed with bows and spearsSo you're for the suspension of due process ?
After the massacre at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the N.R.A. secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.
More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times
As a condition of its support for the measure, the National Rifle Association extracted a concession: the inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.
More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times
Mocking the disabled rosie?After the massacre at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the N.R.A. secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.
More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times
As a condition of its support for the measure, the National Rifle Association extracted a concession: the inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.
More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times
Don't care what happened over 100 years ago it has nothing to do with me. Every racial group in history has been oppressed and stolen from.Chief spamalot wants to ban guns. He's still mad over white guys with guns beating up Indians armed with bows and spearsSo you're for the suspension of due process ?
How about vote? work for a newspaper? drive a car? have constitutional protections? how about abortion? sit next to our kids in school? allowed to eat with us? what would you do if someone tries to deny the mentally ill any of those things.To own or have access to guns? Once they have a documented mental illness? Yes I do!
agree-maybe you can get Chief Spouting Bull to get that pointDon't care what happened over 100 years ago it has nothing to do with me. Every racial group in history has been oppressed and stolen from.
agree-maybe you can get Chief Spouting Bull to get that point[/QUOTE][QUOTE="ThunderKiss1965, post: 16598082, member: 56354"
Don't care what happened over 100 years ago it has nothing to do with me. Every racial group in history has been oppressed and stolen from.
After the massacre at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the N.R.A. secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.
More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times
As a condition of its support for the measure, the National Rifle Association extracted a concession: the inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.
More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times
sandy hook had nothing to do with background checks or a crazy guy buying a gun. the fact is, bannerrhoid assholes want to ban guns and they will use any incremental means of doing so including lessening the standards needed to bar someone of their constitutional rights. Such as merely being on a watch list or having some bureaucrat call you a suspected terrorist. Ted Kennedy was on that watch list onceAfter the massacre at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the N.R.A. secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.
More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times
As a condition of its support for the measure, the National Rifle Association extracted a concession: the inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.
More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times
9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want extended back ground checks, including mental health.
Poll: 9 Out of 10 Gun Owners Support Background Checks
House Republicans are arguing that if someone is put on a terrorist watch list, the Government will have 24 hours to PROVE they're a terrorist. If not then they'll be able to load up on the 25 hour--LOL That's how bad it is.
In Denver recently, a guy was on a terrorist watch list. He was actually reported by several MUSLIMS that attended his Mosque, as planning an attack. FBI goes out and interviews him, he goes in and buys a gun and the next day shoots and kills an RTD officer. Reich wingers on the Denver post board still defended him being able to purchase this gun even though he was on a TERRORIST watch list.
First-degree murder charge filed against man accused of killing RTD security officer – The Denver Post
The Mental health issue after Sandy Hook is even more astounding that they would argue over some bat shit crazy dude being able to buy a gun.
WHAT THEY NEVER UNDERSTAND IS THAT THEIR POSITION (GUNS FOR EVERYONE) MAKES IT MORE LIKELY that someday serious bans will come into effect that will really effect their 2nd amendment rights.
A staunch Reich winger, unwilling to bend on gun restrictions for people that are put on a terrorist watch list or for crazy people are in reality are the biggest THREAT to legal gun ownership in this country.
Every time some wacadoodle or terrorist gets a gun in this country and kills people, some politician is going to call for gun restrictions. Someday it's going to happen. To limit that risk, the only option is to make certain that guns do not get in the hands of these type people, but you'll never convince a Reich winger of that until it's too late.
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I think I see where you are coming from but you may be biting off too much at once, lets start with saving the first amendment first, by curtailing the media coverage and how it is allowed to make its own rules, then remove protesters from our public streets because that is obviously backfiring on them and may very well cost us our first amendment right of free speech and assembly.After the massacre at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the N.R.A. secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.
More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times
As a condition of its support for the measure, the National Rifle Association extracted a concession: the inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.
More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times
9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want extended back ground checks, including mental health.
Republicans are arguing is that if someone is put on a terrorist watch list, the Government will have 24 hours to PROVE their a terrorist. If not then they'll be able to load up on the 25 hour--LOL
Poll: 9 Out of 10 Gun Owners Support Background Checks
The Mental health issue after Sandy Hook is even more astounding that they would argue over some bat shit crazy dud being able to buy a gun.
WHAT THEY NEVER UNDERSTAND IS THAT THEIR POSITION (GUNS FOR EVERYONE) MAKES IT MORE LIKELY that someday that serious bans will come into effect that will really effect the 2nd amendment.
A staunch Reich winger, unwilling to bend on gun restrictions for people that are put on a terrorist watch list or for crazy people are in reality are the biggest THREAT to legal gun ownership in this country.
Every time some wacadoodle or terrorist gets a gun in this country and kills people, some politician is going to call for gun restrictions. Someday it's going to happen. To limit that risk, the only option is to make certain that guns do not get in the hands of these type people, but you'll never convince a Reich winger of that until it's too late.
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Yeah, but ted should have been barred from owning a gun, and a car, what he should not have been barred from was leaving the countrysandy hook had nothing to do with background checks or a crazy guy buying a gun. the fact is, bannerrhoid assholes want to ban guns and they will use any incremental means of doing so including lessening the standards needed to bar someone of their constitutional rights. Such as merely being on a watch list or having some bureaucrat call you a suspected terrorist. Ted Kennedy was on that watch list onceAfter the massacre at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the N.R.A. secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.
More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times
As a condition of its support for the measure, the National Rifle Association extracted a concession: the inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.
More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times
9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want extended back ground checks, including mental health.
Poll: 9 Out of 10 Gun Owners Support Background Checks
House Republicans are arguing that if someone is put on a terrorist watch list, the Government will have 24 hours to PROVE they're a terrorist. If not then they'll be able to load up on the 25 hour--LOL That's how bad it is.
In Denver recently, a guy was on a terrorist watch list. He was actually reported by several MUSLIMS that attended his Mosque, as planning an attack. FBI goes out and interviews him, he goes in and buys a gun and the next day shoots and kills an RTD officer. Reich wingers on the Denver post board still defended him being able to purchase this gun even though he was on a TERRORIST watch list.
First-degree murder charge filed against man accused of killing RTD security officer – The Denver Post
The Mental health issue after Sandy Hook is even more astounding that they would argue over some bat shit crazy dude being able to buy a gun.
WHAT THEY NEVER UNDERSTAND IS THAT THEIR POSITION (GUNS FOR EVERYONE) MAKES IT MORE LIKELY that someday serious bans will come into effect that will really effect their 2nd amendment rights.
A staunch Reich winger, unwilling to bend on gun restrictions for people that are put on a terrorist watch list or for crazy people are in reality are the biggest THREAT to legal gun ownership in this country.
Every time some wacadoodle or terrorist gets a gun in this country and kills people, some politician is going to call for gun restrictions. Someday it's going to happen. To limit that risk, the only option is to make certain that guns do not get in the hands of these type people, but you'll never convince a Reich winger of that until it's too late.
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I think I see where you are coming from but you may be biting off too much at once, lets start with saving the first amendment first, by curtailing the media coverage and how it is allowed to make its own rules, then remove protesters from our public streets because that is obviously backfiring on them and may very well cost us our first amendment right of free speech and assembly.After the massacre at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the N.R.A. secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.
More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times
As a condition of its support for the measure, the National Rifle Association extracted a concession: the inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.
More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times
9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want extended back ground checks, including mental health.
Republicans are arguing is that if someone is put on a terrorist watch list, the Government will have 24 hours to PROVE their a terrorist. If not then they'll be able to load up on the 25 hour--LOL
Poll: 9 Out of 10 Gun Owners Support Background Checks
The Mental health issue after Sandy Hook is even more astounding that they would argue over some bat shit crazy dud being able to buy a gun.
WHAT THEY NEVER UNDERSTAND IS THAT THEIR POSITION (GUNS FOR EVERYONE) MAKES IT MORE LIKELY that someday that serious bans will come into effect that will really effect the 2nd amendment.
A staunch Reich winger, unwilling to bend on gun restrictions for people that are put on a terrorist watch list or for crazy people are in reality are the biggest THREAT to legal gun ownership in this country.
Every time some wacadoodle or terrorist gets a gun in this country and kills people, some politician is going to call for gun restrictions. Someday it's going to happen. To limit that risk, the only option is to make certain that guns do not get in the hands of these type people, but you'll never convince a Reich winger of that until it's too late.
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do you have a cartoon that shows how using politically incorrect language is harmful to our nation but being allowed to print the "Pentagon Papers" for the world to read is not?
This may come as somewhat of a shock to you but both are part of the same document, with the same guarantees and protections and in fact if it ever became necessary to defend the first amendment the second amendment would be its best defense, yours is just a feeble attempt to protect an amendment you agree with by barring it from discussion here because you are busy attacking an amendment you disagree with...you are not free to cherry pick the constitution, you agree with it or you don't, no in betweens here, my post was an example of how flawed the argument for saving the second amendment by curtailing it was by using curtailment of the first amendment to save the first amendment in the same manner.I think I see where you are coming from but you may be biting off too much at once, lets start with saving the first amendment first, by curtailing the media coverage and how it is allowed to make its own rules, then remove protesters from our public streets because that is obviously backfiring on them and may very well cost us our first amendment right of free speech and assembly.After the massacre at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the N.R.A. secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.
More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times
As a condition of its support for the measure, the National Rifle Association extracted a concession: the inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.
More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times
9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want extended back ground checks, including mental health.
Republicans are arguing is that if someone is put on a terrorist watch list, the Government will have 24 hours to PROVE their a terrorist. If not then they'll be able to load up on the 25 hour--LOL
Poll: 9 Out of 10 Gun Owners Support Background Checks
The Mental health issue after Sandy Hook is even more astounding that they would argue over some bat shit crazy dud being able to buy a gun.
WHAT THEY NEVER UNDERSTAND IS THAT THEIR POSITION (GUNS FOR EVERYONE) MAKES IT MORE LIKELY that someday that serious bans will come into effect that will really effect the 2nd amendment.
A staunch Reich winger, unwilling to bend on gun restrictions for people that are put on a terrorist watch list or for crazy people are in reality are the biggest THREAT to legal gun ownership in this country.
Every time some wacadoodle or terrorist gets a gun in this country and kills people, some politician is going to call for gun restrictions. Someday it's going to happen. To limit that risk, the only option is to make certain that guns do not get in the hands of these type people, but you'll never convince a Reich winger of that until it's too late.
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do you have a cartoon that shows how using politically incorrect language is harmful to our nation but being allowed to print the "Pentagon Papers" for the world to read is not?
We're talking about guns and the 2nd amendment, if you want to start a 1st amendment thread feel free to do it.
Yeah, but ted should have been barred from owning a gun, and a car, what he should not have been barred from was leaving the countrysandy hook had nothing to do with background checks or a crazy guy buying a gun. the fact is, bannerrhoid assholes want to ban guns and they will use any incremental means of doing so including lessening the standards needed to bar someone of their constitutional rights. Such as merely being on a watch list or having some bureaucrat call you a suspected terrorist. Ted Kennedy was on that watch list onceAfter the massacre at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the N.R.A. secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.
More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times
As a condition of its support for the measure, the National Rifle Association extracted a concession: the inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.
More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times
9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want extended back ground checks, including mental health.
Poll: 9 Out of 10 Gun Owners Support Background Checks
House Republicans are arguing that if someone is put on a terrorist watch list, the Government will have 24 hours to PROVE they're a terrorist. If not then they'll be able to load up on the 25 hour--LOL That's how bad it is.
In Denver recently, a guy was on a terrorist watch list. He was actually reported by several MUSLIMS that attended his Mosque, as planning an attack. FBI goes out and interviews him, he goes in and buys a gun and the next day shoots and kills an RTD officer. Reich wingers on the Denver post board still defended him being able to purchase this gun even though he was on a TERRORIST watch list.
First-degree murder charge filed against man accused of killing RTD security officer – The Denver Post
The Mental health issue after Sandy Hook is even more astounding that they would argue over some bat shit crazy dude being able to buy a gun.
WHAT THEY NEVER UNDERSTAND IS THAT THEIR POSITION (GUNS FOR EVERYONE) MAKES IT MORE LIKELY that someday serious bans will come into effect that will really effect their 2nd amendment rights.
A staunch Reich winger, unwilling to bend on gun restrictions for people that are put on a terrorist watch list or for crazy people are in reality are the biggest THREAT to legal gun ownership in this country.
Every time some wacadoodle or terrorist gets a gun in this country and kills people, some politician is going to call for gun restrictions. Someday it's going to happen. To limit that risk, the only option is to make certain that guns do not get in the hands of these type people, but you'll never convince a Reich winger of that until it's too late.
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This may come as somewhat of a shock to you but both are part of the same document, with the same guarantees and protections and in fact if it ever became necessary to defend the first amendment the second amendment would be its best defense, yours is just a feeble attempt to protect an amendment you agree with by barring it from discussion here because you are busy attacking an amendment you disagree with...you are not free to cherry pick the constitution, you agree with it or you don't, no in betweens here, my post was an example of how flawed the argument for saving the second amendment by curtailing it was by using curtailment of the first amendment to save the first amendment in the same manner.I think I see where you are coming from but you may be biting off too much at once, lets start with saving the first amendment first, by curtailing the media coverage and how it is allowed to make its own rules, then remove protesters from our public streets because that is obviously backfiring on them and may very well cost us our first amendment right of free speech and assembly.After the massacre at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the N.R.A. secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.
More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times
As a condition of its support for the measure, the National Rifle Association extracted a concession: the inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.
More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times
9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want extended back ground checks, including mental health.
Republicans are arguing is that if someone is put on a terrorist watch list, the Government will have 24 hours to PROVE their a terrorist. If not then they'll be able to load up on the 25 hour--LOL
Poll: 9 Out of 10 Gun Owners Support Background Checks
The Mental health issue after Sandy Hook is even more astounding that they would argue over some bat shit crazy dud being able to buy a gun.
WHAT THEY NEVER UNDERSTAND IS THAT THEIR POSITION (GUNS FOR EVERYONE) MAKES IT MORE LIKELY that someday that serious bans will come into effect that will really effect the 2nd amendment.
A staunch Reich winger, unwilling to bend on gun restrictions for people that are put on a terrorist watch list or for crazy people are in reality are the biggest THREAT to legal gun ownership in this country.
Every time some wacadoodle or terrorist gets a gun in this country and kills people, some politician is going to call for gun restrictions. Someday it's going to happen. To limit that risk, the only option is to make certain that guns do not get in the hands of these type people, but you'll never convince a Reich winger of that until it's too late.
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do you have a cartoon that shows how using politically incorrect language is harmful to our nation but being allowed to print the "Pentagon Papers" for the world to read is not?
We're talking about guns and the 2nd amendment, if you want to start a 1st amendment thread feel free to do it.
And the reason a 10 year old does not have that right to drive is because driving is a privilege not a right...and I'm glad you pointed this out, it proves that the left wants to do way with our right to own guns by granting them privilege status just like they would with a car...rights are universal, privilege is not.Yeah, but ted should have been barred from owning a gun, and a car, what he should not have been barred from was leaving the countrysandy hook had nothing to do with background checks or a crazy guy buying a gun. the fact is, bannerrhoid assholes want to ban guns and they will use any incremental means of doing so including lessening the standards needed to bar someone of their constitutional rights. Such as merely being on a watch list or having some bureaucrat call you a suspected terrorist. Ted Kennedy was on that watch list onceAfter the massacre at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the N.R.A. secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.
More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times
As a condition of its support for the measure, the National Rifle Association extracted a concession: the inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.
More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times
9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want extended back ground checks, including mental health.
Poll: 9 Out of 10 Gun Owners Support Background Checks
House Republicans are arguing that if someone is put on a terrorist watch list, the Government will have 24 hours to PROVE they're a terrorist. If not then they'll be able to load up on the 25 hour--LOL That's how bad it is.
In Denver recently, a guy was on a terrorist watch list. He was actually reported by several MUSLIMS that attended his Mosque, as planning an attack. FBI goes out and interviews him, he goes in and buys a gun and the next day shoots and kills an RTD officer. Reich wingers on the Denver post board still defended him being able to purchase this gun even though he was on a TERRORIST watch list.
First-degree murder charge filed against man accused of killing RTD security officer – The Denver Post
The Mental health issue after Sandy Hook is even more astounding that they would argue over some bat shit crazy dude being able to buy a gun.
WHAT THEY NEVER UNDERSTAND IS THAT THEIR POSITION (GUNS FOR EVERYONE) MAKES IT MORE LIKELY that someday serious bans will come into effect that will really effect their 2nd amendment rights.
A staunch Reich winger, unwilling to bend on gun restrictions for people that are put on a terrorist watch list or for crazy people are in reality are the biggest THREAT to legal gun ownership in this country.
Every time some wacadoodle or terrorist gets a gun in this country and kills people, some politician is going to call for gun restrictions. Someday it's going to happen. To limit that risk, the only option is to make certain that guns do not get in the hands of these type people, but you'll never convince a Reich winger of that until it's too late.
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That's a good point you brought up a car. If you compare car regulations to gun regulations in this country, a 10 year old would be able to get behind the wheel as long as they could touch the pedal, no drivers license would be required, no insurance would be required and there would be no speed limit, and we wouldn't even have DUI laws.