NYC precinct told me that their gun confiscatiosn letters are REAL

[The2ndAmendment]

I found it hard to believe that NYC was actually going to confiscate firearms that can hold more than 5 rounds of ammunition. So I called some numbers and one of the precincts showed me the NYC Code which was also stated in the pictures of the Gun Confiscations Letter that has been circulating about the internet.

It turns out their letters are legitimate and are enacting the following NYC Code:

N.Y. ADC. LAW § 10-306 : NY Code - Section 10-306: Disposition, purchase and possession of ammunition and ammunition feeding devices

So I called another precinct, cited the letter and law and pretended to live in their region. I told them that I will not surrender my firearm, and that I as a Citizen of New York and the United States am guaranteed the right to keep and bear arms by BOTH Constitutions.

They said they'll "get back to me."

So what do you think? If I actually lived in their precinct, would they just ignore me (and other guns owners) and not enforce the law?

Or will they send SWAT teams (Adam Kokesh style) to each residence to confiscate the guns of those who refuse to comply?

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

what good will this do with all of these thugs killing people in the streets?

 

[R.C. Christian]

what good will this do with all of these thugs killing people in the streets?

Logic doesn't matter to some people.

The sad part is that the cops, predictably, will go along with tyranny.

That will not happen where I live. XXXXXXX

 

[The2ndAmendment]

what good will this do with all of these thugs killing people in the streets?

Logic doesn't matter to some people.

The sad part is that the cops, predictably, will go along with tyranny.

That will not happen where I live.

To the contrary, most of the cops are enraged, and every precinct has so far told me (I've been making calls after I made this thread) that they would not execute warrants to seize the firearms of the citizens and residents.

Call any of the precincts:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/home/contact_information.shtml

They're laughing at this policy.

 

[Mr. H.]

As Neo said in "The Matrix"...

"Five-round clips... Lots of them".


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[C_Clayton_Jones]

So what do you think?

That you failed to read or comprehend the cited code.

It refers to ‘ammunition feeding devices,’ as in magazines, not firearms.

Otherwise you need to contact a lawyer who practices in New York to explain the law to you. He’ll also explain to you that firearms can’t be ‘confiscated’ absent due process and just compensation.

 

[BlackSand]

I found it hard to believe that NYC was actually going to confiscate firearms that can hold more than 5 rounds of ammunition. So I called some numbers and one of the precincts showed me the NYC Code which was also stated in the pictures of the Gun Confiscations Letter that has been circulating about the internet.

It turns out their letters are legitimate and are enacting the following NYC Code:

N.Y. ADC. LAW § 10-306 : NY Code - Section 10-306: Disposition, purchase and possession of ammunition and ammunition feeding devices

So I called another precinct, cited the letter and law and pretended to live in their region. I told them that I will not surrender my firearm, and that I as a Citizen of New York and the United States am guaranteed the right to keep and bear arms by BOTH Constitutions.

They said they'll "get back to me."

So what do you think? If I actually lived in their precinct, would they just ignore me (and other guns owners) and not enforce the law?

Or will they send SWAT teams (Adam Kokesh style) to each residence to confiscate the guns of those who refuse to comply?

Hey ... Section 10-306 refers to exceptions in Section 10-303.
Section 10-303 identifies who is legally authorized to have a firearm in the first place.

If Section 10-306 excludes those people listed in section 10-303 ... Then the whole mess is just an attempt to persuade New Yorkers to turn their weapons in ... With no real basis for doing so.
They may be laughing and giving you the run around at precincts ... Because there isn't a law to enforce if you already legally own the firearm.

In a sense they are saying that the gun owner is in illegal possession of a firearm that doesn't meet the requirement unless they legally own it ... Which is true of course.

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[The2ndAmendment]

So what do you think?

That you failed to read or comprehend the cited code.

It refers to ‘ammunition feeding devices,’ as in magazines, not firearms.

?????

The letter says the rifle or shotgun must be "surrendered immediately," not the magazine. All of the Queen's precincts (to their own surprise and horror) have confirmed the authenticity of these letters.

Sorry you failed at reading comprehension.

I also called two Manhattan precincts and they also confirmed it.

Here are the phone numbers. Call ANY of the Queens precincts. Press "3" for the community affairs.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/home/contact_information.shtml

 

[LoneLaugher]

Steady Eddie is onto something! He should keep making phone calls. Is Alex Jones broadcasting next week?

 

[LoneLaugher]

So what do you think?

That you failed to read or comprehend the cited code.

It refers to ‘ammunition feeding devices,’ as in magazines, not firearms.

?????

The letter says the rifle or shotgun must be "surrendered immediately," not the magazine. All of the Queen's precincts (to their own surprise and horror) have confirmed the authenticity of these letters.

Sorry you failed at reading comprehension.

I also called two Manhattan precincts and they also confirmed it.

Here are the phone numbers. Call ANY of the Queens precincts. Press "3" for the community affairs.

NYPD - Contact Information

Gee! That letter seems really, really, real and stuff.

 

[daveman]

So what do you think?

That you failed to read or comprehend the cited code.

It refers to ‘ammunition feeding devices,’ as in magazines, not firearms.

Otherwise you need to contact a lawyer who practices in New York to explain the law to you. He’ll also explain to you that firearms can’t be ‘confiscated’ absent due process and just compensation.

Apparently, the NYPD isn't aware of that.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Steady Eddie is onto something! He should keep making phone calls. Is Alex Jones broadcasting next week?

WHy don't you call any of those precincts yourself asshole. They'll confirm it in under 3 minutes.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Steady Eddie is onto something! He should keep making phone calls. Is Alex Jones broadcasting next week?

WHy don't you call any of those precincts yourself asshole. They'll confirm it in under 3 minutes.

They will confirm what? That nobody will come and take anyone's guns?

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Steady Eddie is onto something! He should keep making phone calls. Is Alex Jones broadcasting next week?

WHy don't you call any of those precincts yourself asshole. They'll confirm it in under 3 minutes.

They will confirm what? That nobody will come and take anyone's guns?

They'll confirm that they will have the "ability to obtain a warrant" if you do not comply with the letter.

However, they will also reassure you that they actually won't bother enforcing that law, and even admit how dumb the the update to the NYC Code is.

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Now my question to you:

Are you contesting the validity of these letters and the word of the NYC precincts?

 

[Intense]

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[Intense]

Firearms Licenses | Handgun Licensing Information | Gun Specifications.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downlo...e_lcafd_2013_05_v9.pdf#page=1&zoom=auto,0,800

 

[LoneLaugher]

I wonder why after two weeks of these letters being sent out, only one of them has found it's way into the nutter echo chamber? Could it be that the letter is not something that many people are getting?

Hmmmmmmm?

 

[LoneLaugher]

WHy don't you call any of those precincts yourself asshole. They'll confirm it in under 3 minutes.

They will confirm what? That nobody will come and take anyone's guns?

They'll confirm that they will have the "ability to obtain a warrant" if you do not comply with the letter.

However, they will also reassure you that they actually won't bother enforcing that law, and even admit how dumb the the update to the NYC Code is.

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Now my question to you:

Are you contesting the validity of these letters and the word of the NYC precincts?

I am contesting the idea that this letter was sent out to thousands....or even hundreds....or even tens of people.

I always contest your words...you are a habitual liar. And...when you are not lying, you are hopelessly confused. I don't believe that you called several precincts and were told that this letter has been sent out to gun owners all over NYC.

 

[Intense]

Everything faded into mist. The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth.
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NYSAFE Act Gun Reform | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo

Less is more.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

I always contest your words...you are a habitual liar. And...when you are not lying, you are hopelessly confused. I don't believe that you called several precincts and were told that this letter has been sent out to gun owners all over NYC.

Call them yourself. It's not hard. I have provided the webpage listing all the phone numbers of the Queens and Manhattan precincts.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/home/contact_information.shtml

You can also check the address of the letter in the photo and call the Queens 102nd Precinct --- which issued the letter.

These letters have gone out to EVERY gun owner whose gun has the ability to load magazines containing more than 5 rounds (or hold more than 5 shells in a shotgun without reloading).