Obama Bombs Iraq: Do you Support It?...

[saveliberty]

People.. we dropped two bombs.

Might as well have done nothing...

It's being reported that these bombs did kill civilians. Some were children.

What were children doing next to an IS mobile artillery platform firing on Irbil Iraq in the middle of the desert?

Terrorist orientation class?

Odds of a US military plane dropping bombs on civilians while using satellite data, not very high. Number of articles reporting civilian deaths from US bomb drop, zero.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Nothing in Iraq makes sense either. So we bomb ISIS? Then what? Iran grows even more powerful and influential in Iraq? Is that what we really want? It really is a Catch 22 scenario for Americans. It's very sad.

Obama's total withdrawal from Iraq, combined with the crises that IS has is causing the Iraqi military and government is the reason Iran has been able to increase its influence in Iraq. Had Obama kept the US military in Iraq and prevented what IS has done the past two months from happening, Iranian influence in Iraq today would be much smaller.

Iraq has turned more and more to Iran because OBAMA essentially abandon Iraq after 2011!

Except it was President Bush who signed the agreement withdrawing our troops completely by 2012. He really had no choice because the Iraqis were not budging on the immunity issue. Since the occupation government gave way to the new Shiite dominated Iraq government, Iran (Majority Shiite) has gained considerable influence. Had the Iraqi given in on the immunity issue President Obama would have left troops on the ground.

The Badr Brigade, an Iran trained militia, rolled into Baghdad in 2003 right behind the US UK invasion force.


U.S. President George W. Bush (R) meets with the Leader for the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq Abdul Aziz al-Hakim in the Oval Office of The White House, in Washington on December 12, 2006. (UPI Photo/Kevin Dietsch)


Read more: US PRESIDENT BUSH MEETS WITH ABDUL AZIZ AL-HAKIM - UPI.com

The leader from Iran and the Badr Brigades is in a great photo with Bush

 

[U2Edge]

Nothing in Iraq makes sense either. So we bomb ISIS? Then what? Iran grows even more powerful and influential in Iraq? Is that what we really want? It really is a Catch 22 scenario for Americans. It's very sad.

Obama's total withdrawal from Iraq, combined with the crises that IS has is causing the Iraqi military and government is the reason Iran has been able to increase its influence in Iraq. Had Obama kept the US military in Iraq and prevented what IS has done the past two months from happening, Iranian influence in Iraq today would be much smaller.

Iraq has turned more and more to Iran because OBAMA essentially abandon Iraq after 2011!

Except it was President Bush who signed the agreement withdrawing our troops completely by 2012. He really had no choice because the Iraqis were not budging on the immunity issue. Since the occupation government gave way to the new Shiite dominated Iraq government, Iran (Majority Shiite) has gained considerable influence. Had the Iraqi given in on the immunity issue President Obama would have left troops on the ground.

Nuri Al Maliki did agree to the immunity deal. THE PROBLEM WAS THAT OBAMA INSISTED THAT THE ENTIRE IRAQI PARLIMENT VOTE ON THE IMMUNITY AGREEMENT AND IT LOST BY A FEW VOTES. HAD OBAMA SIMPLY LET NURI AL MALIIKI's ENDORSEMENT STAND, THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM.

Its the first time a US President insisted that A Status of Forces Agreement be ratified by a foreign countries parliament.


Finally, even without an immunity deal, Obama could still of had US troops deployed in Iraq. The United States did not have an immunity agreement when it first invaded Iraq in 2003, nor did it need one. There would be very little need for an immunity agreement since the likely hood of Iraqi military or police forces seizing US military personal was unlikely or at least would be a rare instance.

So the whole, I couldn't get an immunity agreement is really just a smoke screen and a very poor excuse for not conducting sound policy in Iraq after 2011!

 

[SillyWabbit]

Assad is attacking ISIS yet Obama still wants to fund some obscure and ever changing "rebel" force to overthrow Assad ? I'm gonna need a new scorebook pretty soon here to decide which team we're on.

It sounds like a dark, twisted Mel Brooks movie.

 

[Machaut]

Let Iraq fight its own wars

It this merely Iraq's war? When does it become ours? Do they have to make some form of official declaration?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...-will-raise-our-flag-over-the-whitehouse.html

ISIS: 'We Will Raise The Flag Of Allah In The White House' | The Daily Caller

The terror group President Barack Obama threatened to strike in Iraq Thursday evening is itself threatening to strike the American homeland.

“I say to America that the Islamic Caliphate has been established,” Abu Mosa, a spokesman for the terror group known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), told VICE Media in a video interview posted online Thursday. “Don’t be cowards and attack us with drones. Instead send your soldiers, the ones we humiliated in Iraq.”

“We will humiliate them everywhere, God willing, and we will raise the flag of Allah in the White House,” he added.

Or shall we wait until AFTER they've blown up something of ours to decide we may want to get involved in unfucking the ISIS problem, which we ourselves created?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

I didn't support Bush and I don't support this WARMONGER.. When will his Nobel be rescinded?

 

[saveliberty]

We did not create terrorists. They were raised in a culture of hate, one that turns on anyone different than themsleves. When we left they just turned on differing sects. Look at their history, it is clear.

It is like saying sending police into slums creates gang members.

 

[paulitician]

It's also pretty dirty that he waited for Congress to go on Recess. These types of interventions are very sketchy at best. It should have been debated in our Congress. But then again, we all know the Dear Leader isn't big on the Constitution. So it's not surprising.

 

[BlindBoo]

Obama's total withdrawal from Iraq, combined with the crises that IS has is causing the Iraqi military and government is the reason Iran has been able to increase its influence in Iraq. Had Obama kept the US military in Iraq and prevented what IS has done the past two months from happening, Iranian influence in Iraq today would be much smaller.

Iraq has turned more and more to Iran because OBAMA essentially abandon Iraq after 2011!

Except it was President Bush who signed the agreement withdrawing our troops completely by 2012. He really had no choice because the Iraqis were not budging on the immunity issue. Since the occupation government gave way to the new Shiite dominated Iraq government, Iran (Majority Shiite) has gained considerable influence. Had the Iraqi given in on the immunity issue President Obama would have left troops on the ground.

Nuri Al Maliki did agree to the immunity deal. THE PROBLEM WAS THAT OBAMA INSISTED THAT THE ENTIRE IRAQI PARLIMENT VOTE ON THE IMMUNITY AGREEMENT AND IT LOST BY A FEW VOTES. HAD OBAMA SIMPLY LET NURI AL MALIIKI's ENDORSEMENT STAND, THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM.

Its the first time a US President insisted that A Status of Forces Agreement be ratified by a foreign countries parliament.


Finally, even without an immunity deal, Obama could still of had US troops deployed in Iraq. The United States did not have an immunity agreement when it first invaded Iraq in 2003, nor did it need one. There would be very little need for an immunity agreement since the likely hood of Iraqi military or police forces seizing US military personal was unlikely or at least would be a rare instance.

So the whole, I couldn't get an immunity agreement is really just a smoke screen and a very poor excuse for not conducting sound policy in Iraq after 2011!

All of the agreements were passed by the Iraqi Parliament before President Obama took office. The Iraqis wanted us out.

Iraqi Government to UN: 'Don't Extend Mandate for Bush's Occupation' | Alternet'

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Except it was President Bush who signed the agreement withdrawing our troops completely by 2012. He really had no choice because the Iraqis were not budging on the immunity issue. Since the occupation government gave way to the new Shiite dominated Iraq government, Iran (Majority Shiite) has gained considerable influence. Had the Iraqi given in on the immunity issue President Obama would have left troops on the ground.

Nuri Al Maliki did agree to the immunity deal. THE PROBLEM WAS THAT OBAMA INSISTED THAT THE ENTIRE IRAQI PARLIMENT VOTE ON THE IMMUNITY AGREEMENT AND IT LOST BY A FEW VOTES. HAD OBAMA SIMPLY LET NURI AL MALIIKI's ENDORSEMENT STAND, THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM.

Its the first time a US President insisted that A Status of Forces Agreement be ratified by a foreign countries parliament.


Finally, even without an immunity deal, Obama could still of had US troops deployed in Iraq. The United States did not have an immunity agreement when it first invaded Iraq in 2003, nor did it need one. There would be very little need for an immunity agreement since the likely hood of Iraqi military or police forces seizing US military personal was unlikely or at least would be a rare instance.

So the whole, I couldn't get an immunity agreement is really just a smoke screen and a very poor excuse for not conducting sound policy in Iraq after 2011!

All of the agreement were passed by the Iraqi Parliament before President Obama took office. The Iraqis wanted us out.

Iraqi Government to UN: 'Don't Extend Mandate for Bush's Occupation' | Alternet'

Your name suits you perfectly.. you're as blind as a fucking baseball bat.

 

[JWBooth]

It's being reported that these bombs did kill civilians. Some were children.

What were children doing next to an IS mobile artillery platform firing on Irbil Iraq in the middle of the desert?

Terrorist orientation class?

Odds of a US military plane dropping bombs on civilians while using satellite data, not very high. Number of articles reporting civilian deaths from US bomb drop, zero.

These are the same guys that used to blow up wedding parties by accident.

 

[paulitician]

And boy, could his propaganda spokesman look anymore elated? That dude's in a loony state of euphoria. Maybe he's drunk? He started out the press conference today like a giddy schoolgirl. Has to be high or drunk. What's up with that dude?

 

[Ibentoken]

Obama isn't bombing Iraq.

 

[Ropey]

No.

There's no way to protect non Muslims in the Middle East in the long term.

Hell, it's hard enough for the Jews in Israel to stop the ordinance coming in so as to protect their their Muslims from their brothers.

 

[BlindBoo]

Nuri Al Maliki did agree to the immunity deal. THE PROBLEM WAS THAT OBAMA INSISTED THAT THE ENTIRE IRAQI PARLIMENT VOTE ON THE IMMUNITY AGREEMENT AND IT LOST BY A FEW VOTES. HAD OBAMA SIMPLY LET NURI AL MALIIKI's ENDORSEMENT STAND, THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM.

Its the first time a US President insisted that A Status of Forces Agreement be ratified by a foreign countries parliament.


Finally, even without an immunity deal, Obama could still of had US troops deployed in Iraq. The United States did not have an immunity agreement when it first invaded Iraq in 2003, nor did it need one. There would be very little need for an immunity agreement since the likely hood of Iraqi military or police forces seizing US military personal was unlikely or at least would be a rare instance.

So the whole, I couldn't get an immunity agreement is really just a smoke screen and a very poor excuse for not conducting sound policy in Iraq after 2011!

All of the agreement were passed by the Iraqi Parliament before President Obama took office. The Iraqis wanted us out.

Iraqi Government to UN: 'Don't Extend Mandate for Bush's Occupation' | Alternet'

Your name suits you perfectly.. you're as blind as a fucking baseball bat.

I've got an idea for you. Why don't you kindly blow it out your ass! Are you saying the Iraqi Parliament didn't vote in Nov 2008 on the SOFA Bush Signed shortly thereafter?

Or perhaps you're disputing the fact that it was Iraq that asked the UNSC not to extend the mandate for the Occupation, forcing President Bushes hand on the SOFA?

 

[Intolerant]

We are not the worlds police .......we are the worlds police. These liberals want it both ways , then can't deal with their decisions/actions . They will never admit they screwed up by pulling the troops out thus destabilizing the area. But, if that is what is done and wanted , so be it. Live with it and stay out of the area!

 

[Ibentoken]

All of the agreement were passed by the Iraqi Parliament before President Obama took office. The Iraqis wanted us out.

Iraqi Government to UN: 'Don't Extend Mandate for Bush's Occupation' | Alternet'

Your name suits you perfectly.. you're as blind as a fucking baseball bat.

I've got an idea for you. Why don't you kindly blow it out your ass! Are you saying the Iraqi Parliament didn't vote in Nov 2008 on the SOFA Bush Signed shortly thereafter?

Or perhaps you're disputing the fact that it was Iraq that asked the UNSC not to extend the mandate for the Occupation, forcing President Bushes hand on the SOFA?

What about 2011 when Obama made his deal with Iraq?

 

[dannyboys]

So this seems to be the strategy: Bomb ISIS if they approach humanitarian efforts in Northern Iraq. The desired outcome is aid reaching the Kurds. Not sure how you determine when that mission is over.

That mission will never be over.
BOBO once again sitting with his thumb up his LIBERAL/Socialist/Anti American ass has helped create a new Gaza in N. Iraq cities and the US 'Maker's' tax dollars will foot the bill.
Fucking get rid of every radical Islamofacist on the planet. A thousand US dollar bounty on every head delivered. That is the only eventual way of exterminating the human pieces of shit. Throw them alive in a pit full of rotting pig guts.
Something like this is about to happen when the entire world blows up into a full blown war against these sub-humans. All it will take is one tiny match to ignite the fire storm.
If BOBO does not stop the coming genocide on top of the mountain he and only he will be held personally responsible for all time. Valerie knows it. She'll decide what to do.

 

[JimH52]

ISIS is out of control. They are rampaging over Iraq and are forcing Islam on everyone in their path. I think he should have done this weeks ago. You think these "terrorists" will stop in Iraq or Syria. We need to turn the tide of this war. This is a start.

 

[Machaut]

Nothing in Iraq makes sense either. So we bomb ISIS? Then what? Iran grows even more powerful and influential in Iraq? Is that what we really want? It really is a Catch 22 scenario for Americans. It's very sad.

Obama's total withdrawal from Iraq, combined with the crises that IS has is causing the Iraqi military and government is the reason Iran has been able to increase its influence in Iraq. Had Obama kept the US military in Iraq and prevented what IS has done the past two months from happening, Iranian influence in Iraq today would be much smaller.

Iraq has turned more and more to Iran because OBAMA essentially abandon Iraq after 2011!

Except it was President Bush who signed the agreement withdrawing our troops completely by 2012.

Had the Iraqi given in on the immunity issue President Obama would have left troops on the ground.

Great observations! You forgot a few small details, though: The US never completely withdrew from Iraq, never intended to completely withdraw from Iraq, and it has been the US government's intent to re-invade Iraq since before the PR stunt of withdrawing earlier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_the_United_States_in_Baghdad

The Embassy of the United States of America in Baghdad is the diplomatic mission of United States of America in the Republic of Iraq. At 104 acres (42 ha), it is the largest and most expensive embassy in the world, and is nearly as large as Vatican City.

The embassy is a permanent structure which has provided a new base for the 5,500 Americans currently living and working in Baghdad. During construction, the US government kept many aspects of the project under wraps, with many details released only in a U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee report.[8] Apart from the 1,000 regular employees, up to 3,000 additional staff members have been hired, including security personnel.

With construction beginning in mid-2005, the original target completion date was September 2007. "A week after submitting his FY2006 budget to Congress, the President sent Congress an FY2005 emergency supplemental funding request. Included in the supplemental is more than $1.3 billion for the embassy in Iraq ..." An emergency supplemental appropriation (H.R. 1268/P.L. 109-13), which included $592 million for embassy construction, was signed into law on May 11, 2005. According to the Department of State, this funding was all that was needed for construction of the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.[9] However, Walter Pincus of the Washington Post found that the new embassy had cost more than $700 million by 2012,[10] and Business Insider reported in 2013 that the cost of the embassy had surpassed $750 million.[11] The Obama administration requested more than $100 million for a "massive" upgrade to the embassy compound in 2012.[12]

Oh, and there's also the matter of the garrison at the "embassy," which at nearly the same size of the Vatican, is more of an enclave or military base than an "embassy," especially when you consider that diplomatic workers are in the minority there.

June 16, 2014: "Obama announces 275 troops to deploy to Iraq for embassy security in Baghdad"

June 30, 2014: "Latest deployment adds 300 troops, including 100 whom administration had pre-positioned outside Iraq on standby"

July 1, 2014: "The U.S. military has deployed a further 200 troops to reinforce security in Baghdad, it was disclosed Monday. U.S. Department of Defense said a detachment of helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles, known as drones, would bolster the U.S. military presence."

And this isn't a recent thing, either. We've been sending troops in since we officially "pulled out" (except for the massive military base masquerading as an embassy).
September 24, 2012: "Iraq and the United States are negotiating an agreement that could result in the return of small units of American soldiers to Iraq on training missions. At the request of the Iraqi government, according to General Caslen, a unit of Army Special Operations soldiers was recently deployed to Iraq to advise on counterterrorism and help with intelligence."

The US currently has thousands of mercenaries at our embassy/military base in addition to the hundreds of troops there, and roving bands of more soldiers going on "training missions" at various places in Iraq, on top of the Special Ops unit the Iraqi government formally authorized.

The Iraqi government never wanted us out, the US government never wanted out, and we never were out. Don't buy into big media spectacles; the war in Iraq never ended.

The logical extension of all of these facts is a bit more ominous and less palatable for the average person. The US purposefully staged a tactical retreat in order to leave Shi'a Iraq vulnerable for take over by the US's own American-funded, American-supplied, American-trained Sunni Muslim militants.