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The problem with your poll, bigreb, is that you didn't read it.
Here's the poll data from YOUR poll (CBS/Opinion Research).
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/01/17/rel1b.pdf
The poll didn't ask if people were in favor of Gun control - it asked if they blame gun laws for the shooting in AZ.
I don't think you read he poll question number 18 taaken from the poll
Have the shootings in Arizona made you more likely to support stricter gun control laws, less likely to support stricter gun control laws, or has your opinion on gun control not changed as a result of the shootings in Arizona?
More likely 28%
less likely 3%
no change 69%
no opinion 0
This is the link I posted
No, I read it. I don't know if you did though. Your poll doesn't ask people what their positions on Gun Control were before the AZ shooting, only whether the shooting changed them.
That's what's missing from your poll.
You're making an assumption (and claiming that I'm making one two, which is not the case).I don't think you read he poll question number 18 taaken from the poll
Have the shootings in Arizona made you more likely to support stricter gun control laws, less likely to support stricter gun control laws, or has your opinion on gun control not changed as a result of the shootings in Arizona?
More likely 28%
less likely 3%
no change 69%
no opinion 0
This is the link I posted
No, I read it. I don't know if you did though. Your poll doesn't ask people what their positions on Gun Control were before the AZ shooting, only whether the shooting changed them.
That's what's missing from your poll.
I don't understand what does it matter 69% said their opinion did not change. I'm looking at the 69% as pro gun were as you more than likely aren't. But think of it this way if they were already for gun control before the shootings they will be for more stricter gun contols laws after the shootings. Their opinion will change so they will be part of the 28%
You are a total ignorant ass.
critical thinking a term widely over used by liberals every where.
No you did not the UK has a gun ban. care to explain why they would have to turn their guns in?
I must say anyone who makes this comment about what I said
is full of shit and a total idiot or a troll.
Big Reb, when you're getting your arse kicked - and mate you are taking one hell of a kicking - it's best to leave the thread and go and lick your wounds.
You would have to be one of the most ill-informed, ignorant, not-the-sharpest-knife-in-the-draw posters on this board...
I am waiting for that to happen.
Big Reb, when you're getting your arse kicked - and mate you are taking one hell of a kicking - it's best to leave the thread and go and lick your wounds.
You would have to be one of the most ill-informed, ignorant, not-the-sharpest-knife-in-the-draw posters on this board...
I am waiting for that to happen.
In all seriousness - no bullshit - I have yet to see you win one single debate on the USMB..
Big Reb, when you're getting your arse kicked - and mate you are taking one hell of a kicking - it's best to leave the thread and go and lick your wounds.
You would have to be one of the most ill-informed, ignorant, not-the-sharpest-knife-in-the-draw posters on this board...
I am waiting for that to happen.
In all seriousness - no bullshit - I have yet to see you win one single debate on the USMB..
Let's post the comment in context
"A country, state or city that has restrictive guns laws, no one should be killed by a gun.
It's the criminal eleiment that will have access to guns, long after the law abiding citizens has turned their guns in. I bet you think the polkice are obligated to protect you?'
DO YOU STILL WANT TO ADDRESS THAT SPIN YOU MENTIUONED EARLIER?
As for the rest of your bullshit post, you really do not know what in the hell you are talking about.
Here's that gun ban in the UK that you said did not exist
Time to bite the bullet on gun ban
I know you have much on your mind at the moment dealing with crises such as bulging prisons and escaped drug traffickers. It may seem strange then that I am writing to you about a sporting issue one which you alone have the power to help with, that is if your officials can find the papers which are probably buried under a pile of other pressing matters.
Like me you will remember vividly the horror we all felt back in 1996 when 16 children and a teacher were shot dead at a school in Dunblane by a deranged man with a gun. Politicians reacted in haste to the call for 'something to be done'. A partial ban on hand guns was implemented immediately, followed by a total ban as one of the first measures taken by the new Labour Government in 1997.
Time to bite the bullet on gun ban - Telegraph
So you did say it?
We've already established that but thanks again.
As for your letter quoted above, yet again you haven't read it properly, just like you never watched the video critically.
It says that "...a partial ban on handguns was implemented immediately, followed by a total ban..." - he means on handguns, Mr Bigredneck!!!
Have a look here Gun Law in the UK
And, according to you I don't know what I'm talking about because I pulled that rubbish video 'report' apart.
You simply swallowed the spin without using any critical thinking at all.
Give me another link...this is fun.
You are a total ignorant ass.
critical thinking a term widely over used by liberals every where.
And, according to you I don't know what I'm talking about because I pulled that rubbish video 'report' apart.
No you did not the UK has a gun ban. care to explain why they would have to turn their guns in?
I must say anyone who makes this comment about what I said
Finally, if you believe that gun control should eliminate gun crime then why aren't you a gun control advocate? You seem to have completely changed your stance so you might as well come out of the closet now.
Your sentence from above;
is full of shit and a total idiot or a troll.
I am waiting for that to happen.
In all seriousness - no bullshit - I have yet to see you win one single debate on the USMB..
WOW why am I not surprised to read that from you? AND NO BULLSHIT BACK AT YOU, WHEN WILL YOU WIN A DEBATE HERE?
I am waiting for that to happen.
In all seriousness - no bullshit - I have yet to see you win one single debate on the USMB..
There's no such thing as "winning" on an internet message board. Seriously.
So you did say it?
We've already established that but thanks again.
As for your letter quoted above, yet again you haven't read it properly, just like you never watched the video critically.
It says that "...a partial ban on handguns was implemented immediately, followed by a total ban..." - he means on handguns, Mr Bigredneck!!!
Have a look here Gun Law in the UK
And, according to you I don't know what I'm talking about because I pulled that rubbish video 'report' apart.
You simply swallowed the spin without using any critical thinking at all.
Give me another link...this is fun.
You are a total ignorant ass.
critical thinking a term widely over used by liberals every where.
No you did not the UK has a gun ban. care to explain why they would have to turn their guns in?
I must say anyone who makes this comment about what I said
Finally, if you believe that gun control should eliminate gun crime then why aren't you a gun control advocate? You seem to have completely changed your stance so you might as well come out of the closet now.
Your sentence from above;
is full of shit and a total idiot or a troll.
Why are 'total idiot' or 'troll' the only options I have?
Don't put me in a box with a label, man.
You're right, the UK does have a gun ban.
Can you give me a link please?
I suggest that you read it yourself before you post it though, just to save the embarrassment later on.
And...if critical thinking makes me a Liberal, does that mean that Conservatives don't practice or believe in it?
Why are 'total idiot' or 'troll' the only options I have?
Don't put me in a box with a label, man.
And...if critical thinking makes me a Liberal, does that mean that Conservatives don't practice or believe in it
You're right, the UK does have a gun ban.
Can you give me a link please?
Nobody ever went wrong betting on freedom.It's a tie.
I'll keep that in mind.
Kelo was an extremely bad decision. I support the Citizens United decision, though.It's a tie.
you mean like in kelo? or citizens united?
Indeed. Government should be out of the marriage business altogether. Civil unions for all, religious ceremonies for those who desire.It's a tie.
Really daveman, so you support gay and lesbian rights to marry. Good for you; individual liberty SHOULD win.
In all seriousness - no bullshit - I have yet to see you win one single debate on the USMB..
There's no such thing as "winning" on an internet message board. Seriously.
That's right.
The only choices are:
1. Didn't lose.
2. Pwned.
3. Ass raped.
4. Ass raped without lube.
5. Disassembled.
6. Disemboweled and strangled with entrails.
But you can't win.
Indeed. Government should be out of the marriage business altogether. Civil unions for all, religious ceremonies for those who desire.
Really daveman, so you support gay and lesbian rights to marry. Good for you; individual liberty SHOULD win.
Bet you didn't expect that answer, huh?
You are a total ignorant ass.
critical thinking a term widely over used by liberals every where.
No you did not the UK has a gun ban. care to explain why they would have to turn their guns in?
I must say anyone who makes this comment about what I said
is full of shit and a total idiot or a troll.
Why are 'total idiot' or 'troll' the only options I have?
Don't put me in a box with a label, man.
You're right, the UK does have a gun ban.
Can you give me a link please?
I suggest that you read it yourself before you post it though, just to save the embarrassment later on.
And...if critical thinking makes me a Liberal, does that mean that Conservatives don't practice or believe in it?
How about a troll that is a total idiot.
And...if critical thinking makes me a Liberal, does that mean that Conservatives don't practice or believe in it
Actually I said
"critical thinking a term widely over used by liberals every where". I never said Republican don't do it. It appears to me that Liberals use the term but never seem to practice the meaning of the word.
You're right, the UK does have a gun ban.
Can you give me a link please?
I have given you two, but for some reason your critical thinking had a malfunction
Careful, you're slipping into opinion here without a link or poll as a safety net, although since you speak for the majority of Americans I suppose that you're on safe ground.Actually I said
"critical thinking a term widely over used by liberals every where". I never said Republican don't do it. It appears to me that Liberals use the term but never seem to practice the meaning of the word.
Indeed. Government should be out of the marriage business altogether. Civil unions for all, religious ceremonies for those who desire.Really daveman, so you support gay and lesbian rights to marry. Good for you; individual liberty SHOULD win.
Bet you didn't expect that answer, huh?
Exactly.
Gun control makes sense. If President Obama has the balls to push gun control, more power to him. It is the right thing to do.
How does that gun control in england work? It's amazing with all the guns out of the hands of the citizens of britian that people are still killed with guns.
