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Hyperbole to the n-th degree, seriously.
If liberalism is a religion than so is every political ideaology. But then again, they're not because that's fuggin stupid.
of course liberalism is not a declared religion like Catholicism is.....but liberals are attempting to beat down the Church and institute their own belief system.....
unfortunately for them the 1st is there to stop them from "secularizing" the Church and other declared religions...
They're not trying to beat down the Church, that's what is meant by hyperbole.
All that's happening is that less and less people are Religious, thus more and more are vocal about it. This phenomena has nothing to do with Politics, as the General Public don't partake in this vile partisan discussion in America, but live their fuckin' lives.
Sometimes I think that people walking around their Partisan Media and Internet Political Message board circles is detrimental to their mental fucking health. You become OCD and start grandiose theories that are fucking absurd.
I've not heard a single person, ever, in my life (physical life, not online or media) state some crusade against the Church.
Go be social, get the fuck out of the circles you're stuck in. Your brain is dying.
of course liberalism is not a declared religion like Catholicism is.....but liberals are attempting to beat down the Church and institute their own belief system.....
unfortunately for them the 1st is there to stop them from "secularizing" the Church and other declared religions...
They're not trying to beat down the Church, that's what is meant by hyperbole.
All that's happening is that less and less people are Religious, thus more and more are vocal about it. This phenomena has nothing to do with Politics, as the General Public don't partake in this vile partisan discussion in America, but live their fuckin' lives.
Sometimes I think that people walking around their Partisan Media and Internet Political Message board circles is detrimental to their mental fucking health. You become OCD and start grandiose theories that are fucking absurd.
I've not heard a single person, ever, in my life (physical life, not online or media) state some crusade against the Church.
Go be social, get the fuck out of the circles you're stuck in. Your brain is dying.
And yet, hundreds of thousands of those Americans have spent the past couple of weeks emailing their congress critters and that hyperbolic bitch Selebius to voice their support for the Church. And not just Catholics... oh no... Christians, non-Christians, agnostics and atheists... all of them shouted very loudly. And, thank (insert optional deity here), they did. Because - whatever way Obama spins this - he caved to the First Amendment.
It is a good day for Liberty.
of course liberalism is not a declared religion like Catholicism is.....but liberals are attempting to beat down the Church and institute their own belief system.....
unfortunately for them the 1st is there to stop them from "secularizing" the Church and other declared religions...
They're not trying to beat down the Church, that's what is meant by hyperbole.
All that's happening is that less and less people are Religious, thus more and more are vocal about it. This phenomena has nothing to do with Politics, as the General Public don't partake in this vile partisan discussion in America, but live their fuckin' lives.
Sometimes I think that people walking around their Partisan Media and Internet Political Message board circles is detrimental to their mental fucking health. You become OCD and start grandiose theories that are fucking absurd.
I've not heard a single person, ever, in my life (physical life, not online or media) state some crusade against the Church.
Go be social, get the fuck out of the circles you're stuck in. Your brain is dying.
so it's the usual leftist resort to insults......truth hurts doesn't it....?
and if you don't understand that the lefties are out to beat down the Church you are completely out of touch politically....
For the committed progressive socialist, gubmint is their religion and the state is their god.what ? so your saying church and state should not be separated your costitution says ? you seem to be saying church should rule.!
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Where the FUCK does it say "separation of church and state?"
The First Amendment isn't difficult to understand.
Can't serve two masters.
Obama's goal is to secularize everything, including religion itself.
He has my full support.
For the committed progressive socialist, gubmint is their religion and the state is their god.what ? so your saying church and state should not be separated your costitution says ? you seem to be saying church should rule.!
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Where the FUCK does it say "separation of church and state?"
The First Amendment isn't difficult to understand.
Can't serve two masters.
The secularists of the French Revolution regarded the Roman Catholic Church as the last obstacle to atheism's final triumph. Blurting this out, the French dilettante Denis Diderot proposed to his fellow revolutionaries that they strangle the last priest with the "guts of the last king."
Under this spirit, the forces of secularism picked up speed in the 18th and 19th century, went into overdrive in the 20th, and now floor it in the 21st. Barack Obama is the one these revolutionaries have been "waiting for." He is the stealth radical, soft in temperament but hard in thought, who seeks to use religiosity without religion to purge all traces of God from public life.
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Obama's secularism is like an acid that burns through everything it touches. His poisonous ideology authorizes him not just to "separate church and state" but to dominate church and state. The goal of this control is to secularize everything, including religion itself.
Contained within his secularism is a totalitarian seed, which will grow and grow until nothing is a "private" matter. As the hapless executives at the Komen Foundation recently learned--after committing the thought crime of withholding private donations from abortionists--no one is free to leave Obama's Animal Farm.
Some pigs on it are more equal than others, and, remember, the secularist Napoleons can never be wrong. Listen carefully enough to Kathleen Sebelius's defense of Obama's raping of religious freedom and one can hear the thuggish voice of totalitarianism. Did you see what she cited as proof of Obamacare's respect for conscience? That the government will refrain from injecting Catholic women with birth control! Wow, what a thoughtful regime. Even one of Stalin's party hacks might have grinned at the crude logic of that one.
The American Spectator : The Audacity of Obama's Secularism
The part before the underlined part. Specifically, "respecting."
Apparently the First Amendment IS too difficult for some to understand..
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
That means government has NO BUSINESS getting involved in religion PERIOD..
It means the government cant FORCE YOU TO PRACTICE A SPECIFIC RELIGION, It means government CANNOT FORCE YOU NOT TO PRACTICE A SPECIFIC RELIGION..
That's what it means......
It means that religious beliefs can't be force on any citizen. The Catholics are still free to believe that using birth control is a sin. The Catholic elders are still free to tell all the Catholic women to not use birth control too.
But don't worry I sure the Cave-Man will show up at the WH any minute now.....
Obama's goal is to secularize everything, including religion itself.
He has my full support.
Requiring employers to offer this service as part of the insurance package is hardly like acid or an attempt to dominate the church.
It's not like he's demanding the Church change it's position that using birth control is a sin. They are free to continue to sell that bit to their followers aren't they?
the Church doesn't want anything to do with buying/selling insurance that provides contraceptives...
using a bureaucratic rule to squelch the First Amendment is one damned sneaky trick....
for a President who claims to be a "Constitutional scholar"....he's being pretty obtuse....
Couldn't they just inform their employees who use this feature of their insurance that they might be risking an eternity in hell for doing so? I mean it seems to work so well for the most of the Catholic women.......
Apparently the First Amendment IS too difficult for some to understand..
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
That means government has NO BUSINESS getting involved in religion PERIOD..
It means the government cant FORCE YOU TO PRACTICE A SPECIFIC RELIGION, It means government CANNOT FORCE YOU NOT TO PRACTICE A SPECIFIC RELIGION..
That's what it means......
It means that religious beliefs can't be force on any citizen. The Catholics are still free to believe that using birth control is a sin. The Catholic elders are still free to tell all the Catholic women to not use birth control too.
But don't worry I sure the Cave-Man will show up at the WH any minute now.....
No it means government needs to stay the fuck out of religion...........
Besides, FORCING contraceptives is hindering the practice of the faith..
You may as well FORCE a Muslim shop owner to sell pork products - because that is a perfect analogy to what is happening here.
I bet progressives would go batshit crazy if the government forced Muslim stores to carry pork products, however since we're only talking about Catholics here (the enemy of progressives) then apparently forcing them to pay for something that goes against their beliefs is perfectly fine.
It means that religious beliefs can't be force on any citizen. The Catholics are still free to believe that using birth control is a sin. The Catholic elders are still free to tell all the Catholic women to not use birth control too.
But don't worry I sure the Cave-Man will show up at the WH any minute now.....
No it means government needs to stay the fuck out of religion...........
Besides, FORCING contraceptives is hindering the practice of the faith..
You may as well FORCE a Muslim shop owner to sell pork products - because that is a perfect analogy to what is happening here.
I bet progressives would go batshit crazy if the government forced Muslim stores to carry pork products, however since we're only talking about Catholics here (the enemy of progressives) then apparently forcing them to pay for something that goes against their beliefs is perfectly fine.
Nope no one is forcing a single person to take contraceptives.
Your Muslim comparison doesn't work. Now if they were forcing Catholic shops to sell condoms or RU486 pills it might work.....
Organized religion is the oldest and least productive industry in human history.
The sooner we shed some silly notion of a white bearded sky-grandpa who judges ALL humans throughout history for the deeds of two of our distant ancestors, the sooner we'll move out into the light of rational thought and all that dropping the baggage of GOD will allow us.
Organized religion is the oldest and least productive industry in human history.
The sooner we shed some silly notion of a white bearded sky-grandpa who judges ALL humans throughout history for the deeds of two of our distant ancestors, the sooner we'll move out into the light of rational thought and all that dropping the baggage of GOD will allow us.
the Church doesn't want anything to do with buying/selling insurance that provides contraceptives...
using a bureaucratic rule to squelch the First Amendment is one damned sneaky trick....
for a President who claims to be a "Constitutional scholar"....he's being pretty obtuse....
Couldn't they just inform their employees who use this feature of their insurance that they might be risking an eternity in hell for doing so? I mean it seems to work so well for the most of the Catholic women.......
no.....because buying/selling insurance with contraceptives would imply consent to the practice and be violating Church teachings....
No it means government needs to stay the fuck out of religion...........
Besides, FORCING contraceptives is hindering the practice of the faith..
You may as well FORCE a Muslim shop owner to sell pork products - because that is a perfect analogy to what is happening here.
I bet progressives would go batshit crazy if the government forced Muslim stores to carry pork products, however since we're only talking about Catholics here (the enemy of progressives) then apparently forcing them to pay for something that goes against their beliefs is perfectly fine.
Nope no one is forcing a single person to take contraceptives.
Your Muslim comparison doesn't work. Now if they were forcing Catholic shops to sell condoms or RU486 pills it might work.....
No the government only FORCING THE CHURCH TO PAY FOR THEM.. Much like a Muslim would be FORCED to pay for and sell pork..
Once again - you CANNOT FORCE SOMEONE OR AN ENTITY TO BUY A PRODUCT - ESPECIALLY NOT A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION..
I don't think you're intelligent or knowledgeable enough to comprehend my point either...
When the government tries to apply those rules to a church ITSELF, not merely to a non-religious operation that a church OWNS, then I'll take the OP's assertions seriously.
The problem, as I understand it, is one of perspective. You view the Church and its work as two separate entities.
So does the Constitution, insofar as that "work" is not of a religious nature.
