Official Thread for Denial of GreenHouse Effect and Radiative Physics.

[jc456]

still no observation,eh?

If you have proof of this magic "dimmer switch", I'm all ears.

still no observation,eh?

Here is colder ice cream, room (same) temperature surroundings and warmer skin all emitting at the FLIR camera at the same time.

Nope, the device loses energy toward the ice cream, it’s how the device works. The energy flows to the ice cream. So you failed .

Nope, the device loses energy toward the ice cream, it’s how the device works.

So you've got some links that agree, no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
The camera emits fewer photons toward the ice cream and none toward skin because "dimmer switch"?

no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
Not from your picture nope. All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

That would disagree with SB.

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

FLIR T660 thermal camera

Good luck.

I emailed a rep from the company to get specs, the specs aren’t available unless you buy the camera. It does state the FPA is uncooled

 

[SSDD]

you feel an impact through the piece into your fingers every time the laser fires. Massless particles would not be able to create an impact when they hit the working piece...clearly when the laser beam hits the working piece, it is being hit by something with momentum and mass...

You are feeling momentum, not mass. Careful you don't burn your fingers.

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Mass must be present in order to feel momentum.

In his fantasy world I suppose that you can have momentum without mass...he lives in a world where he just makes it up as he goes...if momentum without mass is necessary to support his beliefs....poof...you have momentum without mass.

 

[SSDD]

Even if it didn't, right?

Sure, deflection

It doesn't have to burn through to have mass spraying away from the impact site.

I’m just explaining what would occur. You can read the site information for your mass concern

You have a site that measures their mass yet?

You keep asking this question but refuse to use the information provided you. Your a useless troll..

He is a very special kind of stupid...

 

[SSDD]

Mass must be present in order to feel momentum.

You are thinking of Newtonian mechanics. Relativity is different.
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According to the model...quantum angular momentum requires mass...live by the model...die by the model..

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

TRADITIONALLY is not science data or evidence..........

Massless AT REST....wonder when he thinks photons might ever be AT REST?

I wonder how you weighed them while they're moving? Link?

Already been provided...

I don't know if you have ever operated a laser. I have an orion LZR 60 that I purchased when a firm I worked with upgraded to a larger machine...It is a table top laser welder that has a maximum power of 5 watts....

When you hold a working piece under the lens and fire the laser to create a weld...you feel an impact through the piece into your fingers every time the laser fires. Massless particles would not be able to create an impact when they hit the working piece...clearly when the laser beam hits the working piece, it is being hit by something with momentum and mass...

When you hold a working piece under the lens and fire the laser to create a weld...you feel an impact through the piece into your fingers every time the laser fires.

Any mass moving away from the impact site?

Of course...the chamber where the weld happens has debris all over. So much in fact, that you have to vacuum the chamber out every 1000 welds or so.

Of course...the chamber where the weld happens has debris all over.

I guess the debris flying off the target would exert a downward force on the target.
You know, equal and opposite......

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you have proof of this magic "dimmer switch", I'm all ears.

still no observation,eh?

Here is colder ice cream, room (same) temperature surroundings and warmer skin all emitting at the FLIR camera at the same time.

Nope, the device loses energy toward the ice cream, it’s how the device works. The energy flows to the ice cream. So you failed .

Nope, the device loses energy toward the ice cream, it’s how the device works.

So you've got some links that agree, no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
The camera emits fewer photons toward the ice cream and none toward skin because "dimmer switch"?

no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
Not from your picture nope. All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

That would disagree with SB.

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

FLIR T660 thermal camera

Good luck.

I emailed a rep from the company to get specs, the specs aren’t available unless you buy the camera. It does state the FPA is uncooled

So much for the claim that you need to cool the instrument to see photons from cooler matter.

 

[Wuwei]

Momentum requires mass and velocity...

You are thinking of Newtonian mechanics which only covers objects with non-zero mass.

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[Wuwei]

According to the model...quantum angular momentum requires mass...live by the model...die by the model..

Particles with mass can have spin. The photon has spin but no mass. The photon spin has two intrinsic values, plus and minus h (Plank's constant).

If the photon has a variable spinning mass as you think, then the angular momentum would be a function of the photon energy and would no longer be h. Countless measurements say the spin only has two constant values: +/- h.

You have now provided experimental proof that the photon has no change in mass as a function of wavelength.

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[jc456]

Nope, the device loses energy toward the ice cream, it’s how the device works. The energy flows to the ice cream. So you failed .

Nope, the device loses energy toward the ice cream, it’s how the device works.

So you've got some links that agree, no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
The camera emits fewer photons toward the ice cream and none toward skin because "dimmer switch"?

no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
Not from your picture nope. All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

That would disagree with SB.

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

FLIR T660 thermal camera

Good luck.

follows the 2nd law

There is no conflict between the 2nd Law and SB.

2nd law says one way flow warm to cold. And if there’s no conflicts you’re wrong

 

[jc456]

Nope, the device loses energy toward the ice cream, it’s how the device works. The energy flows to the ice cream. So you failed .

Nope, the device loses energy toward the ice cream, it’s how the device works.

So you've got some links that agree, no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
The camera emits fewer photons toward the ice cream and none toward skin because "dimmer switch"?

no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
Not from your picture nope. All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

That would disagree with SB.

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

FLIR T660 thermal camera

Good luck.

I emailed a rep from the company to get specs, the specs aren’t available unless you buy the camera. It does state the FPA is uncooled

So much for the claim that you need to cool the instrument to see photons from cooler matter.

Waiting on his response, the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nope, the device loses energy toward the ice cream, it’s how the device works.

So you've got some links that agree, no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
The camera emits fewer photons toward the ice cream and none toward skin because "dimmer switch"?

no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
Not from your picture nope. All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

That would disagree with SB.

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

FLIR T660 thermal camera

Good luck.

follows the 2nd law

There is no conflict between the 2nd Law and SB.

2nd law says one way flow warm to cold. And if there’s no conflicts you’re wrong

2nd law says one way flow warm to cold.

You're confused.

And if there’s no conflicts you’re wrong

Feel free to post the conflicts.
I won't laugh at your idiocy, promise.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nope, the device loses energy toward the ice cream, it’s how the device works.

So you've got some links that agree, no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
The camera emits fewer photons toward the ice cream and none toward skin because "dimmer switch"?

no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
Not from your picture nope. All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

That would disagree with SB.

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

FLIR T660 thermal camera

Good luck.

I emailed a rep from the company to get specs, the specs aren’t available unless you buy the camera. It does state the FPA is uncooled

So much for the claim that you need to cool the instrument to see photons from cooler matter.

Waiting on his response, the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

You saw the cold ice cream. Why couldn't it read the ice cream?

 

[jc456]

no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
Not from your picture nope. All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

That would disagree with SB.

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

FLIR T660 thermal camera

Good luck.

follows the 2nd law

There is no conflict between the 2nd Law and SB.

2nd law says one way flow warm to cold. And if there’s no conflicts you’re wrong

2nd law says one way flow warm to cold.

You're confused.

And if there’s no conflicts you’re wrong

Feel free to post the conflicts.
I won't laugh at your idiocy, promise.

Not at all

 

[jc456]

no ice cream photons hitting the room temperature camera...…?
Not from your picture nope. All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

That would disagree with SB.

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

FLIR T660 thermal camera

Good luck.

I emailed a rep from the company to get specs, the specs aren’t available unless you buy the camera. It does state the FPA is uncooled

So much for the claim that you need to cool the instrument to see photons from cooler matter.

Waiting on his response, the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

You saw the cold ice cream. Why couldn't it read the ice cream?

Yep, the camera FPA was losing energy toward the missing IR since it wasn’t cooled

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

All energy flowing to the ice cream from the device!

That would disagree with SB.

Sure, give me the make and model of the device and I will get you the info

FLIR T660 thermal camera

Good luck.

I emailed a rep from the company to get specs, the specs aren’t available unless you buy the camera. It does state the FPA is uncooled

So much for the claim that you need to cool the instrument to see photons from cooler matter.

Waiting on his response, the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

You saw the cold ice cream. Why couldn't it read the ice cream?

Yep, the camera FPA was losing energy toward the missing IR since it wasn’t cooled

Yep, the camera FPA was losing energy toward the missing IR since it wasn’t cooled

Let's follow your "logic".

The sensor knows to receive from, and not emit toward, the warmer skin of the girl.
Because of your confusion about the 2nd Law.
She opens her mouth to expose the ice cream, and without receiving a photon, the sensor knows it can suddenly emit.

That sensor has ESP or something.

No luck finding the dimmer switch sub clause of the SB?

 

[jc456]

I emailed a rep from the company to get specs, the specs aren’t available unless you buy the camera. It does state the FPA is uncooled

So much for the claim that you need to cool the instrument to see photons from cooler matter.

Waiting on his response, the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

You saw the cold ice cream. Why couldn't it read the ice cream?

Yep, the camera FPA was losing energy toward the missing IR since it wasn’t cooled

Yep, the camera FPA was losing energy toward the missing IR since it wasn’t cooled

Let's follow your "logic".

The sensor knows to receive from, and not emit toward, the warmer skin of the girl.
Because of your confusion about the 2nd Law.
She opens her mouth to expose the ice cream, and without receiving a photon, the sensor knows it can suddenly emit.

That sensor has ESP or something.

No luck finding the dimmer switch sub clause of the SB?

No confusion at all. All working like 2nd law says

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So much for the claim that you need to cool the instrument to see photons from cooler matter.

Waiting on his response, the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

You saw the cold ice cream. Why couldn't it read the ice cream?

Yep, the camera FPA was losing energy toward the missing IR since it wasn’t cooled

Yep, the camera FPA was losing energy toward the missing IR since it wasn’t cooled

Let's follow your "logic".

The sensor knows to receive from, and not emit toward, the warmer skin of the girl.
Because of your confusion about the 2nd Law.
She opens her mouth to expose the ice cream, and without receiving a photon, the sensor knows it can suddenly emit.

That sensor has ESP or something.

No luck finding the dimmer switch sub clause of the SB?

No confusion at all. All working like 2nd law says

SB says photons can go both ways between objects.

That doesn't conflict with the 2nd Law in the slightest.

If you feel it does, post your proof.

And a link to the dimmer switch exception. LOL!

 

[sparky]

And a link to the dimmer switch exception.

404.2(C) Switches Controlling Lighting Loads.

 

[jc456]

Waiting on his response, the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

You saw the cold ice cream. Why couldn't it read the ice cream?

Yep, the camera FPA was losing energy toward the missing IR since it wasn’t cooled

Yep, the camera FPA was losing energy toward the missing IR since it wasn’t cooled

Let's follow your "logic".

The sensor knows to receive from, and not emit toward, the warmer skin of the girl.
Because of your confusion about the 2nd Law.
She opens her mouth to expose the ice cream, and without receiving a photon, the sensor knows it can suddenly emit.

That sensor has ESP or something.

No luck finding the dimmer switch sub clause of the SB?

No confusion at all. All working like 2nd law says

SB says photons can go both ways between objects.

That doesn't conflict with the 2nd Law in the slightest.

If you feel it does, post your proof.

And a link to the dimmer switch exception. LOL!

I’m waiting on your observation, where is that?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

the cameras uncooled therefore, hmmm can’t read cold ir.

You saw the cold ice cream. Why couldn't it read the ice cream?

Yep, the camera FPA was losing energy toward the missing IR since it wasn’t cooled

Yep, the camera FPA was losing energy toward the missing IR since it wasn’t cooled

Let's follow your "logic".

The sensor knows to receive from, and not emit toward, the warmer skin of the girl.
Because of your confusion about the 2nd Law.
She opens her mouth to expose the ice cream, and without receiving a photon, the sensor knows it can suddenly emit.

That sensor has ESP or something.

No luck finding the dimmer switch sub clause of the SB?

No confusion at all. All working like 2nd law says

SB says photons can go both ways between objects.

That doesn't conflict with the 2nd Law in the slightest.

If you feel it does, post your proof.

And a link to the dimmer switch exception. LOL!

I’m waiting on your observation, where is that?

I posted the video.

So, still no list of the conflicts between the 2nd Law and SB?
No dimmer switch backup?