Parent Arrested For Protesting Use of Common Core

AND we are 47th in educational excellence!

Yep, and all my friends out there yanked their kids out after a taste of CC

So NOW they're figuring it out... Leaping before they're looking.

See the date on this: 9/12/13

The Obama administration’s signature $4 billion Race to the Top initiative, designed to spur far-reaching education reforms across the country and raise student achievement, is largely a failure, an analysis released Thursday concludes.

Most winning states made what the Broader, Bolder Approach to Education labeled “unrealistic and impossible” promises to boost student achievement in exchange for prizes that were ultimately paltry in comparison with their pledges.

But three years in, Race to the Top hasn’t spurred states to address what really is behind students’ poor academic performance: poverty and the associated lack of opportunities that accompany it, said Elaine Weiss, national coordinator of the Broader, Bolder Approach to Education. Her group advocates for a more targeted focus on poverty over the current slate of education reforms involving testing and accountability.

The Department of Education rejected the report’s conclusions, saying it’s seeing promising signs of improvement in student achievement in Race to the Top states and warning that it’s too early to draw sweeping conclusions. Some state officials also said they are finding the competition useful.

?Race to the Top? for education a flop, report finds - Nirvi Shah - POLITICO.com

Common Core features the use of Howard Zinn's Marxist screed "A Peoples History of the United States" in the curriculum. It's really all anyone needs to know.

Math from Hell.

You multiply to divide, you use a hundreds chart to do 3 digit subtraction or addition, you draw pictures to compare fractions instead of common denominators. :cuckoo: And if we (parents) teach them to borrow/carry or the "regular" way of doing math, we get called in so we can learn how to do it The Right Way. If you don't draw your work and just put the answer, you get it wrong.
 
Test scores for NYC students drop dramatically « Hot Air

New York City officials are on the defensive today after test scores from public schools plummeted under new standards for achievement. The city adopted the controversial Common Core curriculum and testing, and NYC was expected to be a test case for its implementation. After going from bad to worse on achievement, though, parents may demand even more change:

First Empirical Evidence: Common Core Hurts Kentucky Students | National Review Online

The New York Times published a wonderful op-ed by Andrew Hacker and Claudia Dreyfus acknowledging that Common Core is a radical experiment adopted with almost no public discussion and that it is fueling parents’ anxieties.

They also note something I did not know: Kentucky adopted Common Core in 2010, and the results was a huge drop in students’ test scores:

Students in Kentucky were the first to undergo the Common Core’s testing regimen; the state adopted the standards in 2010. One year later, its students’ scores fell across the board by roughly a third in reading and math. Perhaps one cannot blame the students, or the teachers — who struggle to teach to the new, behemoth test that, in some cases, surpasses their curriculums — for the drop in scores.

Yes, because they were DIFFERENT TESTS, the CC one being HARDER.

From the link you cite...

"The exams were some of the first in the nation to be aligned with a more rigorous set of standards known as the Common Core, which emphasize deep analysis and creative problem-solving over short answers and memorization. Last year, under an easier test, 47 percent of city students passed in English, and 60 percent in math."

So schools adopt a more rigorous exam procedure and people are shocked scores dropped the first year? The whole purpose of CC is to address declining performance in core subjects like english and math. For years conservatives have complained about the "revolving door" system of education in the US that didn't prepare students for college much less competing in the real world and now that they have actually done something constructive about it they complain that the new system is TOO HARD.

What a joke. The real reason some people are upset about CC is because it's happening while Obama is in office and they just can't let that happen. If this was done under Bush I bet many of the far right conservatives would be quiet as a church mouse. Of course the far left liberals would be jumping up and down and flinging poo like monkeys in a cage.

The point is some people are letting their politics get in the way of improving education and the kids are the ones who suffer. Scoring a political point is more important.

How sad.
 

so of course everything about it must be ok......:cuckoo:

lemmings-cliff-cartoon.jpg


ask yourself.....why wasn't this very major program that will deeply affect the next generation voted on in our Legislatures where The People would have a voice about it....?

All my Ed. Amin training is in Texas, so I cannot speak for every state, but to my knowledge, legislation is not written for ANY particular curriculum. The state governor appoints a board of education which gives local schools guide lines.

Do you have any evidence to the contrary? If so, what curriculum is currently, or has ever been legislated?
 
Math from Hell.

You multiply to divide, you use a hundreds chart to do 3 digit subtraction or addition, you draw pictures to compare fractions instead of common denominators. :cuckoo: And if we (parents) teach them to borrow/carry or the "regular" way of doing math, we get called in so we can learn how to do it The Right Way. If you don't draw your work and just put the answer, you get it wrong.

These kids will never get into trig or Calculus.
 
Test scores for NYC students drop dramatically « Hot Air

New York City officials are on the defensive today after test scores from public schools plummeted under new standards for achievement. The city adopted the controversial Common Core curriculum and testing, and NYC was expected to be a test case for its implementation. After going from bad to worse on achievement, though, parents may demand even more change:

First Empirical Evidence: Common Core Hurts Kentucky Students | National Review Online

The New York Times published a wonderful op-ed by Andrew Hacker and Claudia Dreyfus acknowledging that Common Core is a radical experiment adopted with almost no public discussion and that it is fueling parents’ anxieties.

They also note something I did not know: Kentucky adopted Common Core in 2010, and the results was a huge drop in students’ test scores:

Yes, because they were DIFFERENT TESTS, the CC one being HARDER.

From the link you cite...

"The exams were some of the first in the nation to be aligned with a more rigorous set of standards known as the Common Core, which emphasize deep analysis and creative problem-solving over short answers and memorization. Last year, under an easier test, 47 percent of city students passed in English, and 60 percent in math."

So schools adopt a more rigorous exam procedure and people are shocked scores dropped the first year? The whole purpose of CC is to address declining performance in core subjects like english and math. For years conservatives have complained about the "revolving door" system of education in the US that didn't prepare students for college much less competing in the real world and now that they have actually done something constructive about it they complain that the new system is TOO HARD.

What a joke. The real reason some people are upset about CC is because it's happening while Obama is in office and they just can't let that happen. If this was done under Bush I bet many of the far right conservatives would be quiet as a church mouse. Of course the far left liberals would be jumping up and down and flinging poo like monkeys in a cage.

The point is some people are letting their politics get in the way of improving education and the kids are the ones who suffer. Scoring a political point is more important.

How sad.

What's sad is that you and your side are the ones introducing politics into the equation.

What many people want is for Local, State and Municipal controls of education to stay in place.

Like the way it's supposed to be.

You, being a socialist pig, think EVERYTHING should be controlled by the Federal Government.

Me, being a Patriotic American (aka; Republican) think the Federal Government should keep their fucking noses out of our business as much as possible.

When I was a kid, the United States had the best Public Schools on Earth. It wasn't even close. Nobody could touch us.

Then the Federal Fucking Government under the complete and utter moron, Jimmy the peanut, established the Department of Education in 1979 and our Schools have gone downhill every since.

We want the Feds out of our Schools.

Know what the biggest problem in our Schools is? Aside from idiot Teachers......

It's boring. The kids are bored to fucking death. Bored stiff.

Know why? Because the Teacher are boring and the subject matter is drier than -- Well, it's pretty dry.

Know why it's dry?

Look who's running it?

Get the Federal Government out of our lives.
 
"The format of the forum did not allow the public to stand and ask a question. Instead, those who wanted questions answered had to write them on a piece of paper. Dance read the questions and had members of a panel, which included state schools Superintendent Lillian Lowery, answer them.

When Small started speaking, Dance told him that he believed his question would be answered, but Small continued to talk. After a couple of minutes, a security guard confronted Small, saying, "Let's go. Let's go."

So again we find another "persecution" article title that is misleading or wrong.

"Small was charged with second-degree assault of a police officer, which carries a fine of $2,500 and up to 10 years in prison, and disturbing a school operation, which carries a fine of $2,500 and up to six months."

Correct.

The OP is a liar.

And this is one of many rightwing threads that are a lie.
 
All my Ed. Amin training is in Texas, so I cannot speak for every state, but to my knowledge, legislation is not written for ANY particular curriculum. The state governor appoints a board of education which gives local schools guide lines.

Do you have any evidence to the contrary? If so, what curriculum is currently, or has ever been legislated?

:confused::confused::confused:

Curriculum Tools | Common Core

While there is no mandatory curriculum, the standardized testing is aimed at a particular curriculum.
 
Common Core features the use of Howard Zinn's Marxist screed "A Peoples History of the United States" in the curriculum. It's really all anyone needs to know.

Really?

You must be much better at searching than I, or have more time.

I tried to find evidence that your statement was true, but found nothing.

:eusa_eh:

You wouldn't happen to have anything, erm, like facts to support this, would you.......


Otherwise, I surmise this is only more blather:

You don't like Zinn. You don't like Common Core.

Therefore, Zinn's books must be part of Common Core.​
 

so of course everything about it must be ok......:cuckoo:

lemmings-cliff-cartoon.jpg


ask yourself.....why wasn't this very major program that will deeply affect the next generation voted on in our Legislatures where The People would have a voice about it....?

All my Ed. Amin training is in Texas, so I cannot speak for every state, but to my knowledge, legislation is not written for ANY particular curriculum. The state governor appoints a board of education which gives local schools guide lines.

Do you have any evidence to the contrary? If so, what curriculum is currently, or has ever been legislated?

Common Core standards have been legislated here, CC is not "curriculum". "Go Math" is the name of the new CC standard curriculum implemented here. I don't think there are very many CC standard text (curriculum) options available yet.
 
All my Ed. Amin training is in Texas, so I cannot speak for every state, but to my knowledge, legislation is not written for ANY particular curriculum. The state governor appoints a board of education which gives local schools guide lines.

Do you have any evidence to the contrary? If so, what curriculum is currently, or has ever been legislated?

:confused::confused::confused:

Curriculum Tools | Common Core

While there is no mandatory curriculum, the standardized testing is aimed at a particular curriculum.

Not sure what your point is.

The link provides no evidence of any particular test or curriculum that has been or is currently legislated.
 
Common Core features the use of Howard Zinn's Marxist screed "A Peoples History of the United States" in the curriculum. It's really all anyone needs to know.

Really?

You must be much better at searching than I, or have more time.

I tried to find evidence that your statement was true, but found nothing.

:eusa_eh:

You wouldn't happen to have anything, erm, like facts to support this, would you.......


Otherwise, I surmise this is only more blather:

You don't like Zinn. You don't like Common Core.

Therefore, Zinn's books must be part of Common Core.​


U.S. and World History | Common Core

You have to pay to get access. But I reiterate that the Alexandria Plan is a suggested curriculum. Two Zinn books are featured. The element here is that standardized tests are designed around the suggested works, so there is a STRONG incentive to use the texts that are pushed.
 
Will the fascist monkeys on the reactionary right show us in the Constitution where they have the constitutional right to disrupt a school board meeting?
 
so of course everything about it must be ok......:cuckoo:

lemmings-cliff-cartoon.jpg


ask yourself.....why wasn't this very major program that will deeply affect the next generation voted on in our Legislatures where The People would have a voice about it....?

All my Ed. Amin training is in Texas, so I cannot speak for every state, but to my knowledge, legislation is not written for ANY particular curriculum. The state governor appoints a board of education which gives local schools guide lines.

Do you have any evidence to the contrary? If so, what curriculum is currently, or has ever been legislated?

Common Core standards have been legislated here, CC is not "curriculum". "Go Math" is the name of the new CC standard curriculum implemented here. I don't think there are very many CC standard text (curriculum) options available yet.

Really, then what is the name of the law?

But, I'll accept that CC is not curriculum, but rather, a set of educational standards for each grade: My point remains, when have state legislatures ever enacted a law that implements educational standards?
 
Common Core features the use of Howard Zinn's Marxist screed "A Peoples History of the United States" in the curriculum. It's really all anyone needs to know.

Really?

You must be much better at searching than I, or have more time.

I tried to find evidence that your statement was true, but found nothing.

:eusa_eh:

You wouldn't happen to have anything, erm, like facts to support this, would you.......


Otherwise, I surmise this is only more blather:

You don't like Zinn. You don't like Common Core.

Therefore, Zinn's books must be part of Common Core.​

Ya, it was a lie. A meme probably started by Glenn Beck. I can prove it but I want the OP to back up his claim.
 
All my Ed. Amin training is in Texas, so I cannot speak for every state, but to my knowledge, legislation is not written for ANY particular curriculum. The state governor appoints a board of education which gives local schools guide lines.

Do you have any evidence to the contrary? If so, what curriculum is currently, or has ever been legislated?

:confused::confused::confused:

Curriculum Tools | Common Core

While there is no mandatory curriculum, the standardized testing is aimed at a particular curriculum.

Not sure what your point is.

The link provides no evidence of any particular test or curriculum that has been or is currently legislated.

I can't speak for that state.

FCAT is legislated under this statute:

The legislative authority for the statewide assessment program is articulated in Section 1008.22, Florida Statutes.

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

The STANDARD Common Core has been legislated also, there are very few "texts" - curriculum - for the standard Common Core even written yet. Curriculum isn't legislated, but there aren't many options for the standard imposed by legislation.

FL was the treasurer for PARCC - which is a multi state group developing the new standard (CC) exams. It isn't even developed yet. But that is to become the new testing standard - and that will be the legislated standard testing when it is developed for those states.

However, on Monday the FL governor bailed on PARCC and gave up FL's financial control over the PARCC exams and he's looking at another standard exam to LEGISLATE. :)
 
Common Core features the use of Howard Zinn's Marxist screed "A Peoples History of the United States" in the curriculum. It's really all anyone needs to know.

Really?

You must be much better at searching than I, or have more time.

I tried to find evidence that your statement was true, but found nothing.

:eusa_eh:

You wouldn't happen to have anything, erm, like facts to support this, would you.......


Otherwise, I surmise this is only more blather:

You don't like Zinn. You don't like Common Core.

Therefore, Zinn's books must be part of Common Core.​


U.S. and World History | Common Core

You have to pay to get access. But I reiterate that the Alexandria Plan is a suggested curriculum. Two Zinn books are featured. The element here is that standardized tests are designed around the suggested works, so there is a STRONG incentive to use the texts that are pushed.

The comment being challenged is this...

"Common Core features the use of Howard Zinn's Marxist screed "A Peoples History of the United States" in the curriculum."

At the link you offer you can scroll through the suggested texts, A Peoples History is not included.

U.S. and World History | Common Core
 
Common Core features the use of Howard Zinn's Marxist screed "A Peoples History of the United States" in the curriculum. It's really all anyone needs to know.

Really?

You must be much better at searching than I, or have more time.

I tried to find evidence that your statement was true, but found nothing.

:eusa_eh:

You wouldn't happen to have anything, erm, like facts to support this, would you.......


Otherwise, I surmise this is only more blather:

You don't like Zinn. You don't like Common Core.

Therefore, Zinn's books must be part of Common Core.​


U.S. and World History | Common Core

You have to pay to get access. But I reiterate that the Alexandria Plan is a suggested curriculum. Two Zinn books are featured. The element here is that standardized tests are designed around the suggested works, so there is a STRONG incentive to use the texts that are pushed.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt: What two Zinn books are featured?

:eusa_eh:

D is for Democracy: A Citizen's Alphabet
by Elissa Grodin, Victor Juhasz (Illustrator)

or

We the People by Benjamin Ginsberg

:eusa_whistle:
 
Common Core features the use of Howard Zinn's Marxist screed "A Peoples History of the United States" in the curriculum. It's really all anyone needs to know.

Really?

You must be much better at searching than I, or have more time.

I tried to find evidence that your statement was true, but found nothing.

:eusa_eh:

You wouldn't happen to have anything, erm, like facts to support this, would you.......


Otherwise, I surmise this is only more blather:

You don't like Zinn. You don't like Common Core.

Therefore, Zinn's books must be part of Common Core.​

Ya, it was a lie. A meme probably started by Glenn Beck. I can prove it but I want the OP to back up his claim.

Ever heard of the "Zinn Education Project"?

» Teaching Materials Zinn Education Project

Didn't think so. They exist for one reason only -- To incorporate the teachings of the disgusting, Anti-American, piece of fucking shit, communist scumbag, may he burn in hell for all eternity, Howard Zinn into America's schools.

As yet, there is no direct link between ZEP and Common Core.

But you gotta understand the FILTH that infests Washington. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of Zinn worshipers just sitting and waiting for their chance to incorporate his disgusting and dishonest book into the Common Core Curriculum.
 
Really?

You must be much better at searching than I, or have more time.

I tried to find evidence that your statement was true, but found nothing.

:eusa_eh:

You wouldn't happen to have anything, erm, like facts to support this, would you.......


Otherwise, I surmise this is only more blather:

You don't like Zinn. You don't like Common Core.

Therefore, Zinn's books must be part of Common Core.​


U.S. and World History | Common Core

You have to pay to get access. But I reiterate that the Alexandria Plan is a suggested curriculum. Two Zinn books are featured. The element here is that standardized tests are designed around the suggested works, so there is a STRONG incentive to use the texts that are pushed.

The comment being challenged is this...

"Common Core features the use of Howard Zinn's Marxist screed "A Peoples History of the United States" in the curriculum."

At the link you offer you can scroll through the suggested texts, A Peoples History is not included.

U.S. and World History | Common Core

Yet
 

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