Pelosi Suggests Delaying State of the Union

[candycorn]

Why doesn't Pelosi just pass an ACCEPTABLE budget and then the SOTU can be held as scheduled without a problem in the WH?

The House did it’s job.
The Senate refuses to do it’s job.

Then Chuck U. Schumer needs to get it together too, and pass the Wall he voted for previously

Can’t pass something when the Senate Majority Leader won’t schedule a vote.

The Republicans own this shutdown.

McConnell isn't going to bother scheduling a vote for something that cannot pass. Or something that will just be veto'ed.

Our President has spoken, unless it has a wall in it, don't bother.

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Correction; he won’t schedule a vote either because he thinks it may pass or that by voting, it will embarrass the Republicans.

Again, the House did it’s job. They had a bill, it was debated, it passed the body.
That the Senate is doing nothing…says all about who is impeding the process. Reid did the same thing.

 

[candycorn]

Not sure about that. Considering many are over 70, I don’t think they would do that well with technology.

They have their staffers do everything else for them.

not true

Yes it is. You think the Congressmembers themselves read the bills they vote on? Puhleeze. They have staffers who read and research them, and then submit a summary brief.

Not true.

What Is Daily Life Like for a Member of Congress or Congressional Staffer?

You have, of course, the member of Congress at the top. He or she will be advised by—and delegate most office functions to—a chief of staff, who will usually be based in Washington but will divide time between the capital and the congressional district. (Some chiefs of staff are based in the district.) From here, there’s a splitting of functions:

• Constituent-specific work (e.g., identifying federal programs to assist constituents) is delegated out to a district office, the member’s back-home base. It will be led by a district director (sometimes the same as the chief of staff) and a handful of casework specialists. Sometimes, the communications director is also based in the district office.
• Policy-specific work (e.g., developing legislation) takes place in the Capitol offices. A legislative director (LD)—just below the chief of staff in the hierarchy—leads a small team of legislative assistants (LA) who have diverse policy portfolios. The LAs are responsible for keeping abreast of major issues and all legislation within their portfolios and providing advice to the LD, chief of staff, and member on votes and how these issues may impact the member’s constituents. Other positions in the Washington office include the communications director, a legislative correspondent (responsible for responding to constituent letters), the member’s scheduler, and some staff assistants and interns (unpaid or given a token stipend).

Did you really think that the Congressmembers themselves read every word of every multi-thousand page piece of proposed legislation that comes along?

Reading bills is one part of their job. I would hope they would have a staff for that.
That the staff “does everything” for them is still not true.

 

[Polishprince]

Gawd forbid Trump gets an hour or so to condemn AND poke fun at the Democrats on network TV.

Pelosi asks Trump to reschedule SOTU because of the shutdown

Exactly, they are afraid what it will do to their cause...the Boomerang effect is alive and well....the shutdown is going unnoticed by almost all Americans..... and more Americans are waking up to the waves of illegals who are marching to our border...

Yup. Especially with another 15,000 headed our way. That's what people are seeing and most couldn't care less about the shutdown.

Only an idiot like Pelousy would request the SOTU be postponed. She's and Schmucker have a lot to answer for.

Hope Trumps State of the Union addresses what the gruesome twosome have done.

You mean 2000...

As new U.S.-bound caravan grows to more than 2,000, Mexicans lash out

Another caravan on the way: 15,000 heading north, destination is Chiapas

Same caravan, FoxNews says it is only 2000 people.

Do you realize how much grief 2000 people can cause? Even if only half of the 2000 are rapists and murderers, this could pose a big problem.

 

[Claudette]

Gawd forbid Trump gets an hour or so to condemn AND poke fun at the Democrats on network TV.

Pelosi asks Trump to reschedule SOTU because of the shutdown

Exactly, they are afraid what it will do to their cause...the Boomerang effect is alive and well....the shutdown is going unnoticed by almost all Americans..... and more Americans are waking up to the waves of illegals who are marching to our border...

Yup. Especially with another 15,000 headed our way. That's what people are seeing and most couldn't care less about the shutdown.

Only an idiot like Pelousy would request the SOTU be postponed. She's and Schmucker have a lot to answer for.

Hope Trumps State of the Union addresses what the gruesome twosome have done.

You mean 2000...

As new U.S.-bound caravan grows to more than 2,000, Mexicans lash out

Another caravan on the way: 15,000 heading north, destination is Chiapas

Same caravan, FoxNews says it is only 2000 people.

My link is from a Mexican paper and it says 15,000.

 

[candycorn]

Gawd forbid Trump gets an hour or so to condemn AND poke fun at the Democrats on network TV.

Pelosi asks Trump to reschedule SOTU because of the shutdown

Exactly, they are afraid what it will do to their cause...the Boomerang effect is alive and well....the shutdown is going unnoticed by almost all Americans..... and more Americans are waking up to the waves of illegals who are marching to our border...

Yup. Especially with another 15,000 headed our way. That's what people are seeing and most couldn't care less about the shutdown.

Only an idiot like Pelousy would request the SOTU be postponed. She's and Schmucker have a lot to answer for.

Hope Trumps State of the Union addresses what the gruesome twosome have done.

You mean 2000...

As new U.S.-bound caravan grows to more than 2,000, Mexicans lash out

Another caravan on the way: 15,000 heading north, destination is Chiapas

Same caravan, FoxNews says it is only 2000 people.

The caravan in 2005, 2015, or 1995 or whenever it took place was handled without a crisis or a peep by the border patrol. The scared little bitches on the right are just trying to keep Mueller off the front page.

 

[Cecilie1200]

They have their staffers do everything else for them.

not true

Yes it is. You think the Congressmembers themselves read the bills they vote on? Puhleeze. They have staffers who read and research them, and then submit a summary brief.

Not true.

What Is Daily Life Like for a Member of Congress or Congressional Staffer?

You have, of course, the member of Congress at the top. He or she will be advised by—and delegate most office functions to—a chief of staff, who will usually be based in Washington but will divide time between the capital and the congressional district. (Some chiefs of staff are based in the district.) From here, there’s a splitting of functions:

• Constituent-specific work (e.g., identifying federal programs to assist constituents) is delegated out to a district office, the member’s back-home base. It will be led by a district director (sometimes the same as the chief of staff) and a handful of casework specialists. Sometimes, the communications director is also based in the district office.
• Policy-specific work (e.g., developing legislation) takes place in the Capitol offices. A legislative director (LD)—just below the chief of staff in the hierarchy—leads a small team of legislative assistants (LA) who have diverse policy portfolios. The LAs are responsible for keeping abreast of major issues and all legislation within their portfolios and providing advice to the LD, chief of staff, and member on votes and how these issues may impact the member’s constituents. Other positions in the Washington office include the communications director, a legislative correspondent (responsible for responding to constituent letters), the member’s scheduler, and some staff assistants and interns (unpaid or given a token stipend).

Did you really think that the Congressmembers themselves read every word of every multi-thousand page piece of proposed legislation that comes along?

Reading bills is one part of their job. I would hope they would have a staff for that.
That the staff “does everything” for them is still not true.

Not really what I said, although I appreciate you admitting I was right, even while trying to pretend you aren't admitting that.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

***Mods, please move this to the appropriate “catch all forum” if necessary. I don’t know if you guys are still doing that or not****

In a letter, House Speaker Pelosi asked the President to re-consider the date for the SOTU.

View attachment 240444

Terrible idea.

It's not required by the Constitution every year, and Trump has nothing of merit to say.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Exactly, they are afraid what it will do to their cause...the Boomerang effect is alive and well....the shutdown is going unnoticed by almost all Americans..... and more Americans are waking up to the waves of illegals who are marching to our border...

Yup. Especially with another 15,000 headed our way. That's what people are seeing and most couldn't care less about the shutdown.

Only an idiot like Pelousy would request the SOTU be postponed. She's and Schmucker have a lot to answer for.

Hope Trumps State of the Union addresses what the gruesome twosome have done.

You mean 2000...

As new U.S.-bound caravan grows to more than 2,000, Mexicans lash out

Another caravan on the way: 15,000 heading north, destination is Chiapas

Same caravan, FoxNews says it is only 2000 people.

My link is from a Mexican paper and it says 15,000.

Now all of a sudden the Mexicans are trustful and reliable.

Wow, this is what being a partisan hack does to a person, they have to change their views on things based solely on how it impacts their chosen party.

 

[Oddball]

It's not required by the Constitution every year, and Trump has nothing of merit to say.

There goes another one....That's at least three today!

 

[candycorn]

The House did it’s job.
The Senate refuses to do it’s job.

Then Chuck U. Schumer needs to get it together too, and pass the Wall he voted for previously

Can’t pass something when the Senate Majority Leader won’t schedule a vote.

The Republicans own this shutdown.

McConnell isn't going to bother scheduling a vote for something that cannot pass. Or something that will just be veto'ed.

Our President has spoken, unless it has a wall in it, don't bother.

So....the conservative republicans are at tiny trumps beck and call and won't even bring the House bills up to a vote in the Senate? Is McConnell as proud as tiny trump over this shutdown?

President Trump has made it clear that he won't sign an unacceptable bill.

So?

Little point in putting something up for a vote.

It’s not a little point to see where Senators stand on a subject. If there is no vote they have to put their name next to…how can we be sure?

 

[Claudette]

Yup. Especially with another 15,000 headed our way. That's what people are seeing and most couldn't care less about the shutdown.

Only an idiot like Pelousy would request the SOTU be postponed. She's and Schmucker have a lot to answer for.

Hope Trumps State of the Union addresses what the gruesome twosome have done.

You mean 2000...

As new U.S.-bound caravan grows to more than 2,000, Mexicans lash out

Another caravan on the way: 15,000 heading north, destination is Chiapas

Same caravan, FoxNews says it is only 2000 people.

My link is from a Mexican paper and it says 15,000.

Now all of a sudden the Mexicans are trustful and reliable.

Wow, this is what being a partisan hack does to a person, they have to change their views on things based solely on how it impacts their chosen party.

I'm just telling you what the paper said.

Another Caravan on the Way: 15,000 Heading North but Destination Is Chiapas - American Renaissance

Here's another. It says they are headed for Chiapas. Not sure where that is and hope its not anywhere near our border. +

 

[candycorn]

not true

Yes it is. You think the Congressmembers themselves read the bills they vote on? Puhleeze. They have staffers who read and research them, and then submit a summary brief.

Not true.

What Is Daily Life Like for a Member of Congress or Congressional Staffer?

You have, of course, the member of Congress at the top. He or she will be advised by—and delegate most office functions to—a chief of staff, who will usually be based in Washington but will divide time between the capital and the congressional district. (Some chiefs of staff are based in the district.) From here, there’s a splitting of functions:

• Constituent-specific work (e.g., identifying federal programs to assist constituents) is delegated out to a district office, the member’s back-home base. It will be led by a district director (sometimes the same as the chief of staff) and a handful of casework specialists. Sometimes, the communications director is also based in the district office.
• Policy-specific work (e.g., developing legislation) takes place in the Capitol offices. A legislative director (LD)—just below the chief of staff in the hierarchy—leads a small team of legislative assistants (LA) who have diverse policy portfolios. The LAs are responsible for keeping abreast of major issues and all legislation within their portfolios and providing advice to the LD, chief of staff, and member on votes and how these issues may impact the member’s constituents. Other positions in the Washington office include the communications director, a legislative correspondent (responsible for responding to constituent letters), the member’s scheduler, and some staff assistants and interns (unpaid or given a token stipend).

Did you really think that the Congressmembers themselves read every word of every multi-thousand page piece of proposed legislation that comes along?

Reading bills is one part of their job. I would hope they would have a staff for that.
That the staff “does everything” for them is still not true.

Not really what I said, although I appreciate you admitting I was right, even while trying to pretend you aren't admitting that.

You said "They have their staffers do everything else for them.”. Perhaps I’ll buy you a mirror so you can debate yourself. I would advise low lighting though because it’ll probably break when you look at it.

 

[candycorn]

***Mods, please move this to the appropriate “catch all forum” if necessary. I don’t know if you guys are still doing that or not****

In a letter, House Speaker Pelosi asked the President to re-consider the date for the SOTU.

View attachment 240444

Terrible idea.

It's not required by the Constitution every year, and Trump has nothing of merit to say.

Both are true. However it’s the accepted norm to have the executive there every year. Citing security concerns is silly.

In one of his books, Tom Clancy talks about a 747 hitting the Capitol at the time of the SOTU (Debt of Honor I think it was). All the normal security for a SOTU would not stop that. Other than that though? Nancy is being stupid.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You mean 2000...

As new U.S.-bound caravan grows to more than 2,000, Mexicans lash out

Another caravan on the way: 15,000 heading north, destination is Chiapas

Same caravan, FoxNews says it is only 2000 people.

My link is from a Mexican paper and it says 15,000.

Now all of a sudden the Mexicans are trustful and reliable.

Wow, this is what being a partisan hack does to a person, they have to change their views on things based solely on how it impacts their chosen party.

I'm just telling you what the paper said.

Another Caravan on the Way: 15,000 Heading North but Destination Is Chiapas - American Renaissance

Here's another. It says they are headed for Chiapas. Not sure where that is and hope its not anywhere near our border. +

That article is just reporting what your first article said.

and it is about 3000 miles from the US border.

 

[Polishprince]

Then Chuck U. Schumer needs to get it together too, and pass the Wall he voted for previously

Can’t pass something when the Senate Majority Leader won’t schedule a vote.

The Republicans own this shutdown.

McConnell isn't going to bother scheduling a vote for something that cannot pass. Or something that will just be veto'ed.

Our President has spoken, unless it has a wall in it, don't bother.

So....the conservative republicans are at tiny trumps beck and call and won't even bring the House bills up to a vote in the Senate? Is McConnell as proud as tiny trump over this shutdown?

President Trump has made it clear that he won't sign an unacceptable bill.

So?

Little point in putting something up for a vote.

It’s not a little point to see where Senators stand on a subject. If there is no vote they have to put their name next to…how can we be sure?

If the Senators wanted to pass it, they would press Sen. McConnell to put it up for a vote. Since they don't, they haven't. All it takes is 60 votes to force a vote. Schumer doesn't have that yet.

 

[shockedcanadian]

This particular scenario is a possible other reason the Dems don't want to end the shutdown, they want the SOTU cancelled. They might even boycott it to pretend they are "afraid for the safety of their Party".

 

[Cecilie1200]

You mean 2000...

As new U.S.-bound caravan grows to more than 2,000, Mexicans lash out

Another caravan on the way: 15,000 heading north, destination is Chiapas

Same caravan, FoxNews says it is only 2000 people.

My link is from a Mexican paper and it says 15,000.

Now all of a sudden the Mexicans are trustful and reliable.

Wow, this is what being a partisan hack does to a person, they have to change their views on things based solely on how it impacts their chosen party.

I'm just telling you what the paper said.

Another Caravan on the Way: 15,000 Heading North but Destination Is Chiapas - American Renaissance

Here's another. It says they are headed for Chiapas. Not sure where that is and hope its not anywhere near our border. +

According to the map, Chiapas is the Mexican state that borders Guatemala.

 

[Doc7505]

Please note the following:
"The SOTU address fulfills rules in Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, requiring the President to periodically "give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient."[1] During most of the country's first century, the President primarily only submitted a written report to Congress. "
"What began as a communication between president and Congress has become in effect a communication between the president and the people of the United States. Since the advent of radio, and then television, the speech has been broadcast live on most networks, preempting scheduled programming."
Source: State of the Union - Wikipedia

Therefore the SOTU speech by the president is now a necessity to America and it's citizens. Pelosi may attempt every and anything to prevent the president from speaking to the 'People' for political reasons. I don't think Pelosi can prevent DJT.

 

[candycorn]

Can’t pass something when the Senate Majority Leader won’t schedule a vote.

The Republicans own this shutdown.

McConnell isn't going to bother scheduling a vote for something that cannot pass. Or something that will just be veto'ed.

Our President has spoken, unless it has a wall in it, don't bother.

So....the conservative republicans are at tiny trumps beck and call and won't even bring the House bills up to a vote in the Senate? Is McConnell as proud as tiny trump over this shutdown?

President Trump has made it clear that he won't sign an unacceptable bill.

So?

Little point in putting something up for a vote.

It’s not a little point to see where Senators stand on a subject. If there is no vote they have to put their name next to…how can we be sure?

If the Senators wanted to pass it, they would press Sen. McConnell to put it up for a vote. Since they don't, they haven't. All it takes is 60 votes to force a vote. Schumer doesn't have that yet.

Whether they “want to” or not, one of the jobs of our representatives is to vote on legislation.
The Senate is not doing their job. It’s really just that simple. Reid and the Democrats did the same thing.

 

[Claudette]

Another caravan on the way: 15,000 heading north, destination is Chiapas

Same caravan, FoxNews says it is only 2000 people.

My link is from a Mexican paper and it says 15,000.

Now all of a sudden the Mexicans are trustful and reliable.

Wow, this is what being a partisan hack does to a person, they have to change their views on things based solely on how it impacts their chosen party.

I'm just telling you what the paper said.

Another Caravan on the Way: 15,000 Heading North but Destination Is Chiapas - American Renaissance

Here's another. It says they are headed for Chiapas. Not sure where that is and hope its not anywhere near our border. +

That article is just reporting what your first article said.

and it is about 3000 miles from the US border.

Well here's hoping that where they are headed and I doubt Mexico will be pleased.