NYcarbineer
Diamond Member
lolol, except maybe for some protesters, the only people that are going to a Coulter speech are sheep on the right who already agree with her.
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No, I mean college-age kids, people who have reached a point of development at which they can make reasonably mature analyses and judgements.
Yeah, I wouldn't see much positive value in this for younger kids, although obviously everyone is different.
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what's the value of a bigot like Ann Coulter speaking at Berkeley? Do you think that it's valuable to society if in some way some otherwise unbigoted student adopt her bigotry?
Search me. She is outrageous enough.....kind of a "shock pundit." Maybe this is how the marketplace of ideas works, when you don't have to be the smartest, just the most brash--
Hey, I think I just figured out how Trump won!
Coulter sells rightwing propaganda. It's really no more complicated than that. The idea that it's some sort of free speech issue over whether or not she should be allowed on a campus to sell her commodity is preposterous.
How will those students ever learn to recognize and counter propaganda if they are never given the chance to hear and counter propaganda?
By high school, they should start practicing separating bullshit from fact. It's a dying skill.
I already pointed out that Coulter's books are in the Berkeley library. She's all over the internet. She
goes on tv. It's 2017. Any kid who wants to learn about Coulter can do so in minutes.
He is saying only speakers whom he agrees with should be allowed to speak. Anywhere.Okay, great. Are you saying that no speakers should be allowed on campus?I voted No. The OP question hit as arguing for argument sake. I think a firm foundation should first be established by parents for young people and save the debate clubs for high school students.
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He is saying only speakers whom he agrees with should be allowed to speak. Anywhere.Okay, great. Are you saying that no speakers should be allowed on campus?I voted No. The OP question hit as arguing for argument sake. I think a firm foundation should first be established by parents for young people and save the debate clubs for high school students.
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Coulter was invited by a Republican group on campus. You probably wouldn't see this sort of controversy on a conservative campus,
because of such as the following:
Liberty U. Drops Democratic Club, Saying Views Conflict With Those of College
Liberty U. Drops Democratic Club, Saying Views Conflict With Those of College
By Anita Kumar
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, May 23, 2009
RICHMOND, May 22 -- Liberty University will no longer recognize its campus Democratic club because, officials say, the national party's platform goes against the conservative Christian school's moral principles.
...and interestingly, you won't the RW bigot OP Mac posting threads about something like the above.
lolol, except maybe for some protesters, the only people that are going to a Coulter speech are sheep on the right who already agree with her.
He is saying only speakers whom he agrees with should be allowed to speak. Anywhere.Okay, great. Are you saying that no speakers should be allowed on campus?I voted No. The OP question hit as arguing for argument sake. I think a firm foundation should first be established by parents for young people and save the debate clubs for high school students.
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Coulter was invited by a Republican group on campus. You probably wouldn't see this sort of controversy on a conservative campus,
because of such as the following:
Liberty U. Drops Democratic Club, Saying Views Conflict With Those of College
Liberty U. Drops Democratic Club, Saying Views Conflict With Those of College
By Anita Kumar
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, May 23, 2009
RICHMOND, May 22 -- Liberty University will no longer recognize its campus Democratic club because, officials say, the national party's platform goes against the conservative Christian school's moral principles.
...and interestingly, you won't the RW bigot OP Mac posting threads about something like the above.
No kidding, perhaps you could also let us know how many of those conservative campuses have had violent protests.
You should put the syringe down. You don't seem to understand what is going on around you.He is saying only speakers whom he agrees with should be allowed to speak. Anywhere.Okay, great. Are you saying that no speakers should be allowed on campus?I voted No. The OP question hit as arguing for argument sake. I think a firm foundation should first be established by parents for young people and save the debate clubs for high school students.
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What happened to your love of the free market?
So you disagree with my OP.The dumbest thing about this discussion is that the OP thinks progressives don't want young people to be exposed to a variety of viewpoints.
Basically, young people at institutions of higher learning have made it known that they don't want to be associated with opportunistic charlatans like Ann Coulter.
They aren't afraid to hear what she says. They just don't want to their institutions to lend credibility to it.
Get it? Will you ever get it?
Thanks.
And of COURSE you Regressives "don't want young people to be exposed to a variety of viewpoints" if you don't like those viewpoints. You're liars and cowards.
I appreciate the input.
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I voted yes, fool. I shut down your argument. You don't like it.
lol, Mac is outraged that some Berkeley students are intolerant of the Queen of Intolerance, Ann Coulter.
Read my sig line.
Oh, I'd let her talk. I'd let some KKK goon talk. I'd let some communist goon talk. Crank it up, let's hear it.Done? Let her do her stupid little talk without disruption and everyone can get on with their lives.What the hell do you want done about Coulter?
That's it.
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I would LOVE to be in the audience when that cadaverous, hateful media whore takes the stage. Disrupt? You betcha'. These Berkeley kids should go and boo her off the stage. What are they thinking? Enjoy these opportunities while they can!
I want the crazies to have every opportunity to expose themselves. One of the best benefits of open expression.
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No, I mean college-age kids, people who have reached a point of development at which they can make reasonably mature analyses and judgements.So you disagree with my OP.The dumbest thing about this discussion is that the OP thinks progressives don't want young people to be exposed to a variety of viewpoints.
Basically, young people at institutions of higher learning have made it known that they don't want to be associated with opportunistic charlatans like Ann Coulter.
They aren't afraid to hear what she says. They just don't want to their institutions to lend credibility to it.
Get it? Will you ever get it?
Thanks.
And of COURSE you Regressives "don't want young people to be exposed to a variety of viewpoints" if you don't like those viewpoints. You're liars and cowards.
I appreciate the input.
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I think of our difference as more of how we define "young people". I associated the term primarily with grammar school youngsters and beginning high school students. I then associate young adults as more mature high school juniors and seniors and college age people.
Yeah, I wouldn't see much positive value in this for younger kids, although obviously everyone is different.
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what's the value of a bigot like Ann Coulter speaking at Berkeley? Do you think that it's valuable to society if in some way some otherwise unbigoted student adopt her bigotry?
Let's get to the heart of the issue of our young people and speakers.
Here's my position: It's a moral and cultural obligation of ours, as citizens of the United States, to promote and enable our young people to be exposed to contrary, stimulating, challenging, and yes, even controversial opinions at every opportunity. It is in their best interests, and the best interests of our country, to do so.
And further, there is no better place or time in their lives to be challenged like this than their college years. If we do not, we are doing our young people and our country a terrible disservice.
Do you agree or disagree? And please note: This is NOT a First Amendment issue, so let's not go there.
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What kind of idiot would vote no?
So far I'm getting precisely the kind of responses I expected from the Regressive Left, like this one.Effectively learning requires the principles of how to critically think. Without those principles, learners cannot filter out fake news and alt facts and pretenders who say the love but really hate critical thinking, like the OP.
All of them leaving the door open for thought censorship.
Thanks.
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As a College that accepts funding from the government, it becomes an extension of the government. By restricting or forbidden any speech they (or the students) disagree with, they are the government violating the Constitution.You should put the syringe down. You don't seem to understand what is going on around you.He is saying only speakers whom he agrees with should be allowed to speak. Anywhere.Okay, great. Are you saying that no speakers should be allowed on campus?I voted No. The OP question hit as arguing for argument sake. I think a firm foundation should first be established by parents for young people and save the debate clubs for high school students.
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What happened to your love of the free market?
What right do you have to be a paid speaker on a college campus?
Elaborate your answer.
So what are the chances I'll have a "Progressive" weigh in, vote "Yes", and bravely disagree with their ideological brethren about Coulter?
Such a straightforward poll, about one of our most fundamental values as a country, and the Regressive Left has to spin and deflect.
I guess that answers my question, and confirms my opinion.
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Here's my position: It's a moral and cultural obligation of ours, as citizens of the United States, to promote and enable our young people to be exposed to contrary, stimulating, challenging, and yes, even controversial opinions at every opportunity. It is in their best interests, and the best interests of our country, to do so.