Pope trying to change DP doctrine

[JoeB131]

the bible says "FISH ONLY ON FRIDAY"?? I missed that line

No, but it does clearly say the Jews killed Jesus.

Not even in dispute.

 

[irosie91]

the bible says "FISH ONLY ON FRIDAY"?? I missed that line

No, but it does clearly say the Jews killed Jesus.

Not even in dispute.

yes it does. Jews actually crucified tens of thousands of their own
during the reign of Pontius Pilate-------the SAINT. The roman army
was helpless to prevent the slaughter

 

[JoeB131]

yes it does. Jews actually crucified tens of thousands of their own
during the reign of Pontius Pilate-------the SAINT. The roman army
was helpless to prevent the slaughter

Not quite.

On the contrary, every other historical record indicates Pilate was kind of ruthless and he had to be replaced because he was such an awful governor.

But when writing the Bible, they had to recast the Roman as the good guy, and the Jews as the bad guys.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

The pope is surely alerting real believers to the farce that is Catholicism. I can get behind that.

 

[gtopa1]

how does that work? Shouldn’t God have some say in the matter?

He speaks for God.

So glad you agree!! lol

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Doctrine?

Greg

 

[JoeB131]

The pope is surely alerting real believers to the farce that is Catholicism. I can get behind that.

so real believers want to kill people, just like Jesus did?

 

[Penelope]

Catholicism is a cult, not a religion. It's paganism mixed with some biblical references for affect. The Reformation of Martin Luther was an attempt to free the people of papal authority and rule. People came to America to flee the persecution of the jesuits, the military arm of the catholic "church".Protestants, to break that word down, is PROTEST against the pope. The inquisition in Europe killed and tortured to death over 60 million people from 1550 to 1930. The vatican is the whore of Babylon and now for the first time in history, there is a jesuit pope. Here is the jesuit 4th vow or is known as the extreme oath.

I_______________ , now in the presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy Apostles, St. Peter and St. Paul, and all the saints, sacred host of Heaven, and to you, my Ghostly Father, the superior general of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola, in the pontification of Paul the Third, and continued to the present, do by the womb of the Virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear that His Holiness, the Pope, is Christ's Vice-Regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by the virtue of the keys of binding and loosing given to His Holiness by my Saviour, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical Kings, Princes, States, Commonwealths, and Governments, and they may be safely destroyed. Therefore to the utmost of my power I will defend this doctrine and His Holiness's right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran Church of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway, and the now pretended authority and Churches of England and Scotland, and the branches of same now established in Ireland and on the continent of America and elsewhere and all adherents in regard that they may be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now denounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or State, named Protestant or Liberal, or obedience to any of their laws, magistrates or officers. I do further declare the doctrine of the Churches of England and Scotland of the Calvinists, Huguenots, and others of the name of Protestants or Masons to be damnable, and they themselves to be damned who will not forsake the same. I do further declare that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of His Holiness's agents, in any place where I should be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Ireland or America, or in any other kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise. I do further promise and declare that, notwithstanding, I am dispensed with to assume any religion heretical for the propagation of the Mother Church's interest; to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they entrust me, and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstances whatever; but to execute all that should be proposed, given in charge, or discovered unto me by you, my Ghostly Father, or any of this sacred order. I do further promise and declare that I will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ. That I will go to any part of the world whithersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions north, jungles of India, to the centers of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things, whatsoever is communicated to me. I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex nor condition, and that will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants' heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honour, rank, dignity or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus. In confirmation of which I hereby dedicate my life, soul, and all corporal powers, and with the dagger which I now receive I will subscribe my name written in my blood in testimony thereof; and should I prove false, or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the militia of the Pope cut off my hands and feet and my throat from ear to ear, my belly be opened and sulphur burned therein with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth, and my soul shall be tortured by demons in eternal hell forever. That I will in voting always vote for a Knight of Columbus in preference to a Protestant, especially a Mason, and that I will leave my party so to do; that if two Catholics are on the ticket I will satisfy myself which is the better supporter of Mother Church and vote accordingly. That I will not deal with or employ a Protestant if in my power to deal with or employ a Catholic. That I will place Catholic girls in Protestant families that a weekly report may be made of the inner movements of the heretics. That I will provide myself with arms and ammunition that I may be in readiness when the word is passed, or I am commanded to defend the Church either as an individual or with the militia of the Pope. All of which I,_______________, do swear by the blessed Trinity and blessed sacrament which I am now to receive to perform and on part to keep this my oath. In testimony hereof, I take this most holy and blessed sacrament of the Eucharist and witness the same further with my name written with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and seal in the face of this holy sacrament.

If not for Rome there would be no Christianity that the protestants protested about and fought wars against. No bible, not nothing for the Protestants to quote at whim, to make it say whatever they want, they even read false things into it.

The 2nd whore of Babylon (the first was Babylon) is Rome, why because Rome was the second empire to totally destroy the Herods Temple in Jerusalem.

 

[irosie91]

yes it does. Jews actually crucified tens of thousands of their own
during the reign of Pontius Pilate-------the SAINT. The roman army
was helpless to prevent the slaughter

Not quite.

On the contrary, every other historical record indicates Pilate was kind of ruthless and he had to be replaced because he was such an awful governor.

But when writing the Bible, they had to recast the Roman as the good guy, and the Jews as the bad guys.

so true Joe-----can you tell me how old you were when you FIRST accepted
that fact as fact?

 

[irosie91]

The pope is surely alerting real believers to the farce that is Catholicism. I can get behind that.

so real believers want to kill people, just like Jesus did?

Pope Francis is jealous of the Pharisees. ------especially since Jesus
was a Pharisee and CLEARLY OPPOSED TO CAPITAL
PUNISHMENT. <<<<<< a very Pharisee notion. Francis wants to
transform himself into JESUS THE PHARISEE (don't hold your
breath)

 

[Penelope]

List of capital crimes in the Torah - Wikipedia

That is why capital punishment was taken away from the Sanhedrin in 30AD.

If there is capital punishment in the NT tell me about it?

 

[Penelope]

The pope is surely alerting real believers to the farce that is Catholicism. I can get behind that.

so real believers want to kill people, just like Jesus did?

Pope Francis is jealous of the Pharisees. ------especially since Jesus
was a Pharisee and CLEARLY OPPOSED TO CAPITAL
PUNISHMENT. <<<<<< a very Pharisee notion. Francis wants to
transform himself into JESUS THE PHARISEE (don't hold your
breath)

Pope Francis is not , I repeat is not jealous of the Pharisees.

 

[irosie91]

The pope is surely alerting real believers to the farce that is Catholicism. I can get behind that.

so real believers want to kill people, just like Jesus did?

Pope Francis is jealous of the Pharisees. ------especially since Jesus
was a Pharisee and CLEARLY OPPOSED TO CAPITAL
PUNISHMENT. <<<<<< a very Pharisee notion. Francis wants to
transform himself into JESUS THE PHARISEE (don't hold your
breath)

Pope Francis is not , I repeat is not jealous of the Pharisees.

wrong again. Check your citations----it correctly described violations
"with MAY merit the death penalty" <<< very Pharisee. The historical
fact is that the Pharisees during the era of Jesus insisted on the "MAY"
as a loophole to avoid the death penalty entirely. They argued that the
death penalty was NOT REQUIRED but only an option under rare
circumstances. The story about the "adulteress" saved from stoning
by Jesus-----virtually PEGS HIM AS A PHARISEE ------sorry the reality
busts your bubble. The Pharisees are demonized in the NT----BECAUSE THEY (like Jesus) OPPOSED ROMAN RULE

 

[irosie91]

what is WHY the death penalty was taken from the Sanhedrin in 30 AD---
to protect adulterers?

 

[zaangalewa]

Execution List 2018 | Death Penalty Information Center

 

[rightwinger]

the bible says "FISH ONLY ON FRIDAY"?? I missed that line

No, but it does clearly say the Jews killed Jesus.

Not even in dispute.

Italians killed Jesus

 

[Penelope]

the bible says "FISH ONLY ON FRIDAY"?? I missed that line

No, but it does clearly say the Jews killed Jesus.

Not even in dispute.

Italians killed Jesus

At insistence of the jews.

 

[irosie91]

the bible says "FISH ONLY ON FRIDAY"?? I missed that line

No, but it does clearly say the Jews killed Jesus.

Not even in dispute.

Italians killed Jesus

At insistence of the jews.

The Romans were well known to do whatevah DA
JOOOOOS wanted----like crucify something like 20,000
Pharisee jews. Ask the easter bunny

 

[irosie91]

Catholicism is a cult, not a religion. It's paganism mixed with some biblical references for affect. The Reformation of Martin Luther was an attempt to free the people of papal authority and rule. People came to America to flee the persecution of the jesuits, the military arm of the catholic "church".Protestants, to break that word down, is PROTEST against the pope. The inquisition in Europe killed and tortured to death over 60 million people from 1550 to 1930. The vatican is the whore of Babylon and now for the first time in history, there is a jesuit pope. Here is the jesuit 4th vow or is known as the extreme oath.

I_______________ , now in the presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy Apostles, St. Peter and St. Paul, and all the saints, sacred host of Heaven, and to you, my Ghostly Father, the superior general of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola, in the pontification of Paul the Third, and continued to the present, do by the womb of the Virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear that His Holiness, the Pope, is Christ's Vice-Regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by the virtue of the keys of binding and loosing given to His Holiness by my Saviour, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical Kings, Princes, States, Commonwealths, and Governments, and they may be safely destroyed. Therefore to the utmost of my power I will defend this doctrine and His Holiness's right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran Church of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway, and the now pretended authority and Churches of England and Scotland, and the branches of same now established in Ireland and on the continent of America and elsewhere and all adherents in regard that they may be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now denounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or State, named Protestant or Liberal, or obedience to any of their laws, magistrates or officers. I do further declare the doctrine of the Churches of England and Scotland of the Calvinists, Huguenots, and others of the name of Protestants or Masons to be damnable, and they themselves to be damned who will not forsake the same. I do further declare that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of His Holiness's agents, in any place where I should be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Ireland or America, or in any other kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise. I do further promise and declare that, notwithstanding, I am dispensed with to assume any religion heretical for the propagation of the Mother Church's interest; to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they entrust me, and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstances whatever; but to execute all that should be proposed, given in charge, or discovered unto me by you, my Ghostly Father, or any of this sacred order. I do further promise and declare that I will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ. That I will go to any part of the world whithersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions north, jungles of India, to the centers of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things, whatsoever is communicated to me. I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex nor condition, and that will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants' heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honour, rank, dignity or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus. In confirmation of which I hereby dedicate my life, soul, and all corporal powers, and with the dagger which I now receive I will subscribe my name written in my blood in testimony thereof; and should I prove false, or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the militia of the Pope cut off my hands and feet and my throat from ear to ear, my belly be opened and sulphur burned therein with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth, and my soul shall be tortured by demons in eternal hell forever. That I will in voting always vote for a Knight of Columbus in preference to a Protestant, especially a Mason, and that I will leave my party so to do; that if two Catholics are on the ticket I will satisfy myself which is the better supporter of Mother Church and vote accordingly. That I will not deal with or employ a Protestant if in my power to deal with or employ a Catholic. That I will place Catholic girls in Protestant families that a weekly report may be made of the inner movements of the heretics. That I will provide myself with arms and ammunition that I may be in readiness when the word is passed, or I am commanded to defend the Church either as an individual or with the militia of the Pope. All of which I,_______________, do swear by the blessed Trinity and blessed sacrament which I am now to receive to perform and on part to keep this my oath. In testimony hereof, I take this most holy and blessed sacrament of the Eucharist and witness the same further with my name written with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and seal in the face of this holy sacrament.

If not for Rome there would be no Christianity that the protestants protested about and fought wars against. No bible, not nothing for the Protestants to quote at whim, to make it say whatever they want, they even read false things into it.

The 2nd whore of Babylon (the first was Babylon) is Rome, why because Rome was the second empire to totally destroy the Herods Temple in Jerusalem.

there would be no Inquisition either-----millions dead------in fact there would
be no ADOLF HITLER -------always remember "HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE"--------is REICH-------all three first, second, and THIRD

 

[irosie91]

Penny ----so glad you are back------now tell us again WHY the romans
disallowed the SANHEDRIN to inflict a death penalty-------I am really
curious as to your UNDERSTANDING of that issue