Trumps actions were far from perfect. A woman was killed by a white suprematists after a band of Nazis walked with torches down the streets chanting blood and soil. So when the president speaks speaks about that event he should stay on message and not conflate it with a statue protest to pick a fight with ANTIFA. Some people truly do see the fact that he deflected blame at that moment from the Nazis to change the subject and praise the statue protestors and blame ANTIFA as a racist act. they see it as a cover for the Nazis by minimizing their message. I don’t go that far but I understand the sentiment and Trump doubled down on it by how he then responded.I hold trump to a higher standard than I do the media. The media has always been hyperbolic garbage, that’s baked in. Our elected officials and especially our president don’t get free passes because the media spins. But as I said, once that narrative came out Trump could have easily clarified, or better yet shouldn’t have been trying to detract focus from the horrific killing of a young lady by White suprematists scum. The more I watch how he responded to that situation the more I saw him escalating instead of deescalating. It’s his ego. That’s how he is.
THe media is not spin. THey flat out lied, and it was a horrifically divisive lie.
Trump's behavior in that issue, was nearly perfect. Saying that Trump should have "clarified" to fix the media's lie, is not holding Trump to a higher standard, it is just choosing to side with your side, even when it is clearly in the wrong.
The division in our society, that you are supporting by being a part of, is tearing this country apart.
And is part of the same process that is killing people in the streets right now.
I've seen this coming for quite some time. When you call people "nazis" you are not trying to find a way to work together, but laying the moral justification for the use of violence.
Consider this. It will get worse. Much worse. How many people are you willing to see die, to advance your partisan agenda?
And I did then and do now correct people who say that he was calling the Nazis very fine people. That has become a dishonest propaganda slogan from the Left and there is no excuse for it
Why is it important to ignore the fact that Antifa was also violent or that some people who were there were there because of a less radical reason?
^^^ fake news ^^^
FBI 'has no intelligence' indicating antifa was linked to weekend violence in the George Floyd protests, despite Trump and Republicans' claims
FBI 'has no intelligence' indicating antifa was linked to weekend violence in the George Floyd protests, despite Trump and Republicans' claims
No Sign Of Antifa So Far In Justice Department Cases Brought Over Unrest
June 9, 20203:57 PM ET
No Sign Of Antifa So Far In Justice Department Cases Brought Over Unrest
FBI finds no evidence of Antifa’s involvement in national unrest
FBI finds no evidence of Antifa’s involvement in national unrest
1. We are talking about the riot in Charlottsville, you fucking race baiting moron.
2. I've never heard that the FBI has targeted Antifa for infiltration. So, is their lack of information an indicator that Antifa is not operating, or an indication that Democratic partisan operators have sabotaged the FBI from doing it's job in watching Antifa?
it was this thread that i gave you the links. yer chosen one is insisting antifa is part of these protests turned violent. you mean you don't believe him?
I mean that I was talking to someone else about something else, you crazy bitch.
What part of that, is too complex for you to understand?
it doesn't matter since you claimed i was part of antifa & let's just say i like proving you wrong whenever it seems a good time to do so.
point blank question:
do you think antifa was part of these protests?
1. It does matter. The topics being discussed, matter to the conversation you jumped into. D'uh,
2. YOu are not proving me wrong, when you are so confused that you are not even talking about the same thing other people are talking about, you crazy bitch.
3. Yes, I do. (think that antifa is part of thes protests)
but of course you do. you automatically ASSume antifa was part of it 'cause yer chosen one said so, despite the evidence showing otherwise.
donny is pushing sick CONspiratorial pablum vomited up by a sputnik owned rooooskie reporter on a extremist rw propaganda network & you swallowed that too.
here's yer antifa poster boy.
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Trump's words on this issue, have had no impact on my assumptions on Antifa. Indeed, I have not been listening to him on the issue.
You assumption that I am basing me opinions on what he is saying is you projecting.
I assume that Anfia is involved, because they have been violent rioters for YEARS, and pushing for more and more political violence.
This is a perfect chance for them to encourage more violence and to outreach into minority communities for either new recruits or new allies.
From their perspective, it would incredible incompetence on their part to NOT jump at the opportunities presented to them.
That the FBI has found no "evidence" of this, imo, is likely because the partisan hacks in the FBI, have been careful to NOT infiltrate the Antifa, because as Dem political operatives, they are on the same side.
pure bullshit on yer part.
I've been against Antifa since they've been shutting down conservative speakers on college campuses, years before Trump announced.
Your need to assume that my position on Antifa has anything to do with Trump is... very strange.
Trump crafted his political persona to FOLLOW people like me. I (we) were here first.
When you talk to TRUMP, you can accuse him of following ME, if you want. That would have more basis in reality.
Until then, either address what I actually say. Or don't. Go play in traffic for all I care.
But, your claims that I am a blind follower, is just you libs projecting.
This !
Trump crafted his political persona to FOLLOW people like me. I (we) were here first.
THIS!
' trump CRAFTED HIS POLITICAL PERSONA. '
PERSONA
the particular type of character that a person seems to have and that is often different from their real or private character: ~ cambridge english dictionary
“The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.” ~ donald trump
in other words - he is a snake oil salesman & y'all are his dupes.
Incorrect. ON so many levels.
100% factual.
from the definition of persona to donny's exact quote from his ghost written book to the fact that he has been shown to defraud people with his fake university & foundation - to his tv PERSONA.
The fact that he crafted a political persona, is not evidence of anything, you raving lunatic.
FOr starters.
You raving lunatic.
it's evidence that he is duping you.
no, it is not.
YOu are so blinded by your hate, you can't even see that the words you are saying, don't say the shit you claim that are saying.
Stating "craft a persona" does not equal "duping". YOu are literally insane.
Can you even make a sentence explaining why you thin what you seem to think? Or are you just going to rave some more?
crafting a persona is acting in a way that is not true to one's actual character.
therefore it is a lie. what you see & hear from is a lie. he doesn't feel that way about you, he is only self serving himself & his swamp critters. look at the people he has put in charge. they are all the antithesis of the depts they serve.
OR, he was a political unformed person, without a deep political or ideological set of principles, and when he decided to get into politics he had to create a whole new sub identity.
The feedback between truth belief and self serving side taking, might have been complex and interesting,
but there is no reason to believe that he is not mostly sincere in the political platform and belief system he put together and there is especially no reason to believe that he might not be sincere in his offer of representing the interest so us, the American working man (class).
Also, your claim that he "fooled us" or that we "swallowed his load" is based on your self serving and asshole assumption that we could not see his actions nor understood them.
If I had a choice between a man with a life long commitment to my political ideology and interests, and someone who came to it recently as part of a self serving desire to be President, I would of course, go with life long believer.
BUT, the choice was between Trump and Hillary.
And in that, it was clear that we would do better to vote for Trump.
Your assumption that we did so, because we were "Fooled" or "Swallowing Trump's load",
is just you being a fucking asshole.
FUCK YOU.
I get that people voted for Trump because the alternative was Hillary.
What I don't get is people thinking that means they have to defend him no matter what.
Things tend to repeat themselves. People refusing to condemn Obama for his lies helped bring about Trump.
The same thing is happening now with Trump.
It wasn't long ago that I posted I didn't think Biden stood a chance (I'm still not voting for him) but now I think he has a real good chance of winning because no one will tell Trump that when you've dug yourself into a hole, stop digging.
I'm sure you believe yourself to be some magnanimous genius -
How did Candidate Trump defeat 16 other Republican candidates, most actual experienced politicians if his only quality is that he wasn't Hillary.
Hint - it was his policies - it still is.
Did you read what I replied to? I replied to someone noting they voted for Trump because the alternative was Hillary.
He had no policies then and he has none now.
That is simple delusion.
Ask any Leftist - they can give you a long list of policies that they hate.
He has headline grabbing statements that come and go. No real policies. He follows up nothing.
His policies were clear. His brave positions drove the debate, of both parties. That is why he won.
Your denial of recent history, is not credible.
